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2012-02-20 09:31:10 AM
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2012-02-20 09:32:19 AM
TEAM RANCH DRESSING
 
2012-02-20 09:33:54 AM
There are only so many chickens in the universe, and they only have two wings apiece.

Peak wing was expected sooner or later. I just wish it hadn't happened in my lifetime.
 
2012-02-20 09:36:11 AM

sn82: TEAM RANCH DRESSING


You go to hell. You go to hell and you die.

/Not a dip unless it has lumps in it.
 
2012-02-20 09:37:47 AM

sn82: TEAM RANCH DRESSING


APOSTATE.

FuLinHyu: You go to hell. You go to hell and you die.


No. We do not want their kind in New Jersey.
 
2012-02-20 09:42:21 AM
And people were laughing at me for moving out of gold and into chicken wings. Who is laughing now?
 
2012-02-20 09:50:30 AM
As NRN points out, some wing-specialty chains, such as East Coast Wings and Quaker Steak & Lube, locked in purchase prices for wings last year, when they were low, to hedge against the likelihood of soaring prices. That strategy should help them keep menu prices down, at least for the near future.

I know it's a business strategy, but the image of that occurring is just funny. "Bill, look, I've GOT to lock in these prices so I can keep my patrons sucking on these poultry wings and slamming down Bud Light, but I don't want to chance losing $1 per customer on absorbed food costs or higher prices. I need to buy 475 metric tons of wings at the Sept. contract prices! You've got to help me out here! i know you're married, Bill. Bill, do you ever play the field? I've got this awesome escort that does some amazing things. I'll throw in a weekend in Vegas if you let me lock in at this rate."
 
2012-02-20 09:51:40 AM

Saiga410: And people were laughing at me for moving out of gold and into chicken wings. Who is laughing now?


The conservative, wings-heavy portfolio pays off for the hungry investor!

/I'll take eight!
 
2012-02-20 09:54:57 AM

Saiga410: And people were laughing at me for moving out of gold and into chicken wings. Who is laughing now?


Damn, and I went with waffles, lots of waffles with tasty maple syrup.
 
2012-02-20 09:56:57 AM
Are you kidding, subby? Do you know how much a side of celery and blue cheese costs? That's panic-inducing all on its own.
 
2012-02-20 10:08:20 AM
Time to stop eating them, then. It's not like there isn't other food, as well as the rest of the chicken.
What's the next fad chicken food, beaks and feet?
 
2012-02-20 10:30:40 AM
when tomatoes are the freshest, the most delicious and also the cheapest (especially if you grow them in your backyard).


My total cost including materials, plants, water, and fertilizer is higher per tomato than what I would pay in the store. I'm not even including the labor and opportunity costs.
 
2012-02-20 10:32:06 AM
This is why I've hedged with dummies and thighs.
 
2012-02-20 10:32:42 AM

Kurmudgeon: Time to stop eating them, then. It's not like there isn't other food, as well as the rest of the chicken.
What's the next fad chicken food, beaks and feet?


It's going to be the "oyster"... chicken butt.
 
2012-02-20 11:06:44 AM
Chicken feet? The Asians beat you to it. They are good actually.
 
2012-02-20 11:06:49 AM
I know this is going to make me sound like I've got an onion in my belt but..... chicken wing prices have NOT been "mild" - hell, there's a couple of places around here that tout 30-40 cent wings like is some kind of insane giveaway. No my friends, the glory days were 10-15 years ago when a place like BW3 had 20 cent wings pretty much all the time and would have 10 cent wings on Tuesdays. If you got really lucky the local would have 5 cent wings as long as you were drinking.

/now about these damn clouds....
 
2012-02-20 11:46:56 AM

Fizpez: I know this is going to make me sound like I've got an onion in my belt but..... chicken wing prices have NOT been "mild" - hell, there's a couple of places around here that tout 30-40 cent wings like is some kind of insane giveaway. No my friends, the glory days were 10-15 years ago when a place like BW3 had 20 cent wings pretty much all the time and would have 10 cent wings on Tuesdays. If you got really lucky the local would have 5 cent wings as long as you were drinking.

/now about these damn clouds....


You are right. I remember 15-20 years ago you could go to certain grocery stores and buy 40 lbs boxes of whole uncooked chicken wings for $20. Now a 40 lbs box cost you $80-$90. That is over $2 a pound, whole chickens don't cost that much. I've personally moved on to eating chicken legs because you can still get them for about 35-50 cents a pound depending on the time of year.
 
2012-02-20 11:48:42 AM
Conversely, dark meat chicken is getting cheaper. Maybe we'll have 10 cent drumsticks at bars in the near future.
 
2012-02-20 11:50:02 AM

sn82: TEAM RANCH DRESSING


You don't deserve to live.
 
2012-02-20 11:51:46 AM
Where in hell is beaks?!
 
2012-02-20 12:35:54 PM
This is just so odd to me. I'm not too old (40s), and I remember when the wings were the pieces in the bucket or box that nobody wanted. There was no meat on them.

People: you just want the sauce. Get a bottle, heat it up a little, gulp.
 
2012-02-20 12:41:34 PM
Bleu cheese is a fart in creamy liquid form.

TEAM RANCH!
 
2012-02-20 12:59:56 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: Bleu cheese is a fart in creamy liquid form.


You know, that is actually a pretty apt description. But the problem isn't so much how it tastes on its own, but rather the hot sauce and bleu cheese tast together.

TEAM BLEU CHEESE.

/celery's only good to eat after the wings are gone and your next round hasn't arrived yet.
 
2012-02-20 01:01:14 PM

Rapmaster2000: My total cost including materials, plants, water, and fertilizer is higher per tomato than what I would pay in the store. I'm not even including the labor and opportunity costs.


You're doing it wrong. Maybe you got bad plants? Maybe you put them in a bad spot? Maybe you underwatered? Maybe your soil sucks? Find a gardening forum to help you figure it out.

My first year was a train-wreck of bad decisions and lack of information. ("Let's throw these Home Depot plants in the ground, over there out of the way! That'll work!") Got a couple tomatoes, cursed the idea. The second year found a better spot to plant, but no other prep. Got a few tomatoes, still non-plussed. Decided, "fark it, let's do it right and see what happens. If this doesn't work, to hell with it."

Started heirlooms from seeds, moved them into built-for-the-purpose boxes in the right location. Even with drip irrigation (parts are 1/10th the price on line vs. your hardware store... absolutely no reason *not* to set up an automatic system), fancy fertilizer, composted fill soil, new planter box lumber, etc etc etc, I came out cost-ahead. I wound up with giant piles of tomatoes from plants up over my head (and that's saying *a*lot*). Way, way, way, *way* cheaper than even a crap grocery store, in much better quality... and, as an added bonus, had varieties otherwise unavailable.

I filled a freezer with sauce (savings there paid for the food mill attachment many times over, and homemade kicks the crap out of a jar), from almost-weekly harvesting of 10-20+ pounds of the things. Still eating it. I cringed every time I had to buy a meely, flavorless, $1-2+ tomato in the store this winter, and am eagerly looking forward to spring.

Just sayin'. Tomatoes aren't hard, and certainly seem to be the most cost-rewarding plants to grow. Many claim peppers are good that way, too, but I don't eat enough to make it worth the effort. Herbs are dead-easy, however... tough call which is a bigger win, but I digress.

/ Wish I could grow wings as easily... delicious, delicious wings...
// bleu cheese or go join Al Qaeda
 
2012-02-20 01:19:02 PM

odinsposse: Conversely, dark meat chicken is getting cheaper. Maybe we'll have 10 cent drumsticks at bars in the near future.


fry em up and put some sauce on em, it's like a Renaissance chicken wing
 
2012-02-20 01:27:14 PM
It's the hedge fund guys buying up all the chicken wing futures.
MARKET MANIPULATION.

/Whar is the outrage. Whar.
//Seriously? Wings are the waste pieces.
 
2012-02-20 01:34:38 PM

greatgodyoshi: Are you kidding, subby? Do you know how much a side of celery and blue cheese costs? That's panic-inducing all on its own.


How about if we skip on the celery?
 
2012-02-20 01:43:51 PM
I know it is sacrilegious to say, but the solution is boneless buffalo wings. I know that they aren't as good as regular wings and their quality can vary wildly, but they can be made from the rest of the chicken and are lower in price for the meat used.
 
2012-02-20 01:46:24 PM

lasercannon: I know it is sacrilegious to say, but the solution is boneless buffalo wings. I know that they aren't as good as regular wings and their quality can vary wildly, but they can be made from the rest of the chicken and are lower in price for the meat used.


Boneless wings are made from breast meat, which is just as costly, if not more, than chicken wings. If you make them from other parts of the chicken then they aren't boneless wings anymore, they are chicken nuggets.
 
2012-02-20 01:55:51 PM
www.tinynewyorkkitchen.com
 
2012-02-20 02:05:34 PM

Saiga410: And people were laughing at me for moving out of gold and into chicken wings. Who is laughing now?


It's you damned speculators who are responsible for this.
 
2012-02-20 02:23:28 PM

SFSailor: Rapmaster2000: My total cost including materials, plants, water, and fertilizer is higher per tomato than what I would pay in the store. I'm not even including the labor and opportunity costs.

You're doing it wrong. Maybe you got bad plants? Maybe you put them in a bad spot? Maybe you underwatered? Maybe your soil sucks? Find a gardening forum to help you figure it out.

My first year was a train-wreck of bad decisions and lack of information. ("Let's throw these Home Depot plants in the ground, over there out of the way! That'll work!") Got a couple tomatoes, cursed the idea. The second year found a better spot to plant, but no other prep. Got a few tomatoes, still non-plussed. Decided, "fark it, let's do it right and see what happens. If this doesn't work, to hell with it."

Started heirlooms from seeds, moved them into built-for-the-purpose boxes in the right location. Even with drip irrigation (parts are 1/10th the price on line vs. your hardware store... absolutely no reason *not* to set up an automatic system), fancy fertilizer, composted fill soil, new planter box lumber, etc etc etc, I came out cost-ahead. I wound up with giant piles of tomatoes from plants up over my head (and that's saying *a*lot*). Way, way, way, *way* cheaper than even a crap grocery store, in much better quality... and, as an added bonus, had varieties otherwise unavailable.

I filled a freezer with sauce (savings there paid for the food mill attachment many times over, and homemade kicks the crap out of a jar), from almost-weekly harvesting of 10-20+ pounds of the things. Still eating it. I cringed every time I had to buy a meely, flavorless, $1-2+ tomato in the store this winter, and am eagerly looking forward to spring.

Just sayin'. Tomatoes aren't hard, and certainly seem to be the most cost-rewarding plants to grow. Many claim peppers are good that way, too, but I don't eat enough to make it worth the effort. Herbs are dead-easy, however... tough call which is a ...


I can grow peppers like crazy. I'll have too many poblanos, banana, jalepeno, bell, and cayenne by mid-May. I have peppers from late April to Thanksgiving.

It's tomatoes that are the problem. I fertilize with compost in the best spot available (my front yard) and I use miracle grow and a soaker hose (double soaker for the tomatoes). This year I'm no longer planting heirlooms. Their production sucks.

I suspect it's the summers here that just roast the fark out of the poor things. I started watering with a sprinkler late summer and that seemed to help. The soaker hose just cannot keep up.
 
2012-02-20 02:24:23 PM

SFSailor: Just sayin'. Tomatoes aren't hard, and certainly seem to be the most cost-rewarding plants to grow. Many claim peppers are good that way, too, but I don't eat enough to make it worth the effort. Herbs are dead-easy, however... tough call which is a bigger win, but I digress.


For my garden, herbs. The nice part is that you can plant the hardier herbs, like oregano and rosemary, in spots that don't require much in the way of maintenance, and given the rapidly climbing cost of herbs, I get to enjoy quite a bit of luxury for free.

Hopefully, I'll switch over to square foot gardening this season, once I finish my boxes, and then I'll be one happy bastard.
 
2012-02-20 02:25:13 PM
Just think of the impact on the market if someone breeds a chicken with 4 wings. Prices will drop overnight. Hunger will be abolished in all sports bars and pubs. It would be the best of times..........
 
2012-02-20 02:26:58 PM

Rapmaster2000: SFSailor: Rapmaster2000: My total cost including materials, plants, water, and fertilizer is higher per tomato than what I would pay in the store. I'm not even including the labor and opportunity costs.

You're doing it wrong. Maybe you got bad plants? Maybe you put them in a bad spot? Maybe you underwatered? Maybe your soil sucks? Find a gardening forum to help you figure it out.

My first year was a train-wreck of bad decisions and lack of information. ("Let's throw these Home Depot plants in the ground, over there out of the way! That'll work!") Got a couple tomatoes, cursed the idea. The second year found a better spot to plant, but no other prep. Got a few tomatoes, still non-plussed. Decided, "fark it, let's do it right and see what happens. If this doesn't work, to hell with it."

Started heirlooms from seeds, moved them into built-for-the-purpose boxes in the right location. Even with drip irrigation (parts are 1/10th the price on line vs. your hardware store... absolutely no reason *not* to set up an automatic system), fancy fertilizer, composted fill soil, new planter box lumber, etc etc etc, I came out cost-ahead. I wound up with giant piles of tomatoes from plants up over my head (and that's saying *a*lot*). Way, way, way, *way* cheaper than even a crap grocery store, in much better quality... and, as an added bonus, had varieties otherwise unavailable.

I filled a freezer with sauce (savings there paid for the food mill attachment many times over, and homemade kicks the crap out of a jar), from almost-weekly harvesting of 10-20+ pounds of the things. Still eating it. I cringed every time I had to buy a meely, flavorless, $1-2+ tomato in the store this winter, and am eagerly looking forward to spring.

Just sayin'. Tomatoes aren't hard, and certainly seem to be the most cost-rewarding plants to grow. Many claim peppers are good that way, too, but I don't eat enough to make it worth the effort. Herbs are dead-easy, however... tough call ...


Also, this year I had the problem of consecutive days over 90 which prevents flowers from forming so there were zero flowers form mid-July through August. I really didn't get any tomatoes until October.
 
2012-02-20 02:54:09 PM

Rapmaster2000: Also, this year I had the problem of consecutive days over 90 which prevents flowers from forming so there were zero flowers form mid-July through August. I really didn't get any tomatoes until October.


Im gonna try for a good crop of tomaters... but i have to worry about frost in may... and a growing season of 100 days or less. Im starting seeds soon in my snow covered window sills. I'm more exited about my corn. Growing corn in a latitude similar to that of Denmark is a challenge.

I love chicken wings but the best part of the chicken is a popes nose from a really well roasted bird.

Pygostyles are the perfect ratio of meat and fat and skin.
 
2012-02-20 03:07:36 PM

Rapmaster2000: when tomatoes are the freshest, the most delicious and also the cheapest (especially if you grow them in your backyard).

My total cost including materials, plants, water, and fertilizer is higher per tomato than what I would pay in the store. I'm not even including the labor and opportunity costs.


Yeah, I figure my wife spent about $15/lb for her heritage tomatoes last year. And none of them were better than a vine-ripened Early Girl.
 
2012-02-20 03:28:07 PM

Rapmaster2000: It's tomatoes that are the problem. I fertilize with compost in the best spot available (my front yard) and I use miracle grow and a soaker hose (double soaker for the tomatoes). This year I'm no longer planting heirlooms. Their production sucks.

I suspect it's the summers here that just roast the fark out of the poor things. I started watering with a sprinkler late summer and that seemed to help. The soaker hose just cannot keep up.


Rapmaster2000: Also, this year I had the problem of consecutive days over 90 which prevents flowers from forming so there were zero flowers form mid-July through August. I really didn't get any tomatoes until October.


Huh.

Really interesting to hear the difficulties, given that you're clearly a more talented gardener than I am! I figure, if *I* can grow "far more tomatoes than any mortal needs" with my level of moran-ity and laziness, they really have to be dead-easy. But maybe I just got really, really lucky.

I'd still wonder about a different spot / shading / water / something given the heat-related troubles you seem to have had.

And, yeah, there's certainly a range of productivity among the variety... but even my "meh, don't bother with that one next year" heirloom variety still netted a surprising reasonable volume.

Interesting. Maybe I just have some Magic Tomato Growin' Spot or something. Really seemed like, to me, no-brainers and something I've been telling everyone who'll listen to do, but apparently I got lucky. We'll see this year. Certainly too many variables to track down the reason for our vastly-different experiences, but it's certainly curious.

FormlessOne: For my garden, herbs.


While some could argue the freshness / flavor differences, to me, the nicest thing about herbs is that you don't have to buy a $3-5 pack to get a couple tablespoons for a recipe. And they really seem to take no effort (or, errr, here again, I've gotten lucky).

The biggest success in my backyard (shy of the wild mountains of tomatoes) was basil. A couple small, $2 pots from HD / the grocery store turned into huge bushes of never-ending basil. I cut them down at the end of the season and, well... the freezer volume that's not packed full of tomato sauce was filled with pesto. Gallons of pesto.

Between the basil and the tomatoes, I just wish there was some way to plant and grow mozzarella.

On that note: Anyone know where to get pine nuts cheap? I needed -pounds- of the little bastards. Still cheaper (and better!) than commercial tubs of pesto, but wouldn't mind finding a bulk supplier....
 
2012-02-20 03:38:57 PM
Ain't no thing...
 
2012-02-20 03:45:30 PM

El Dudereno: This is why I've hedged with dummies and thighs.


fark yeah. Filled my freezer with chicken breasts and thighs at $.39/lb
 
2012-02-20 03:46:03 PM
I predict the "wing craze" as of late will fizzle out just like the cupcake shop craze. It may take a few years, but unless your local wing and beer restaurant does something that differentiates it from the thousands of other wing places around...I doubt it will be around for long.

We have a restaurant that does all you can eat wings for like $16 per person and they have close to 30 different types of sauces. That is a rockin' place...their beer selection goes far beyond your Bud Lite and Miller Lite selections which is very nice too.
 
2012-02-20 03:55:16 PM
hostedmedia.reimanpub.com

Boneless chicken bites are the alternative we've been looking for.

/extra blue cheese, please.
 
2012-02-20 03:57:54 PM

SFSailor: The biggest success in my backyard (shy of the wild mountains of tomatoes) was basil.


Basil will thrive, THRIVE, in a flower pot on a window sill. Only a cactus requires less care.
 
2012-02-20 04:02:47 PM

lysdexic: El Dudereno: This is why I've hedged with dummies and thighs.

fark yeah. Filled my freezer with chicken breasts and thighs at $.39/lb


Me too. Even the free-range organic thighs are cheap as fark. They take better to most forms of cooking too and stay juicy. Season them under the skin, salt the outsides and bake, roast, broil, or grill them. Hell, coat them in buffalo sauce and dip them into blue cheese dressing if you want.
 
2012-02-20 04:04:37 PM

SFSailor: Rapmaster2000: It's tomatoes that are the problem. I fertilize with compost in the best spot available (my front yard) and I use miracle grow and a soaker hose (double soaker for the tomatoes). This year I'm no longer planting heirlooms. Their production sucks.

I suspect it's the summers here that just roast the fark out of the poor things. I started watering with a sprinkler late summer and that seemed to help. The soaker hose just cannot keep up.

Rapmaster2000: Also, this year I had the problem of consecutive days over 90 which prevents flowers from forming so there were zero flowers form mid-July through August. I really didn't get any tomatoes until October.

Huh.

Really interesting to hear the difficulties, given that you're clearly a more talented gardener than I am! I figure, if *I* can grow "far more tomatoes than any mortal needs" with my level of moran-ity and laziness, they really have to be dead-easy. But maybe I just got really, really lucky.

I'd still wonder about a different spot / shading / water / something given the heat-related troubles you seem to have had.

And, yeah, there's certainly a range of productivity among the variety... but even my "meh, don't bother with that one next year" heirloom variety still netted a surprising reasonable volume.

Interesting. Maybe I just have some Magic Tomato Growin' Spot or something. Really seemed like, to me, no-brainers and something I've been telling everyone who'll listen to do, but apparently I got lucky. We'll see this year. Certainly too many variables to track down the reason for our vastly-different experiences, but it's certainly curious...


I'm open to the idea that I'm a moran. Really, I am. It's probably just heat related.
 
2012-02-20 04:07:40 PM
Don't worry. There's plenty of wyngz^ to go around.
 
2012-02-20 04:10:03 PM

Jackpot777: SFSailor: The biggest success in my backyard (shy of the wild mountains of tomatoes) was basil.

Basil will thrive, THRIVE, in a flower pot on a window sill. Only a cactus requires less care.


Oh yeah. That stuff is bulletproof. If you forget to water a basil plant, it wrinkles up to remind you with days to spare before it dies.
 
2012-02-20 04:11:54 PM

Endive Wombat: I predict the "wing craze" as of late will fizzle out just like the cupcake shop craze. It may take a few years, but unless your local wing and beer restaurant does something that differentiates it from the thousands of other wing places around...I doubt it will be around for long.

We have a restaurant that does all you can eat wings for like $16 per person and they have close to 30 different types of sauces. That is a rockin' place...their beer selection goes far beyond your Bud Lite and Miller Lite selections which is very nice too.


My favorite place around here does an all-you-can-eat-and-drink buffet every saturday for ~$20 - pizza, fried chicken (including wings and wing sauces) and all the beer you can drink to go with it.

/I really like that place
 
2012-02-20 04:19:34 PM

Endive Wombat: I predict the "wing craze" as of late will fizzle out just like the cupcake shop craze. It may take a few years, but unless your local wing and beer restaurant does something that differentiates it from the thousands of other wing places around...I doubt it will be around for long.

We have a restaurant that does all you can eat wings for like $16 per person and they have close to 30 different types of sauces. That is a rockin' place...their beer selection goes far beyond your Bud Lite and Miller Lite selections which is very nice too.


Well, I think the wing only places will suffer(like Wingstop) outside of a foodcourt type setting, but most of the ones around here that are named as wing places(SoCal.. OBW, WingNuts, etc) offer a full menu(either a sportsbar menu or just a standard burger/sandwich/etc type menu). And pizza and wings will never go away.
 
2012-02-20 04:26:05 PM

Jackpot777: SFSailor: The biggest success in my backyard (shy of the wild mountains of tomatoes) was basil.

Basil will thrive, THRIVE, in a flower pot on a window sill. Only a cactus requires less care.


Tell that to my wife. Each morning I look at her sad basil plant sitting on the box window behind our sink and I think to myself, "I really should water it but dangit I want to prove my point (in that she should stay away from plants)." I give it one more week.
 
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