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(LA Times)   Obama can't land Olympics for Chicago, GOP opponents call him a failure. Romney saves Olympics for Salt Lake City, GOP opponents call him a failure. Talk about no-win situations   (latimes.com) divider line 31
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2012-02-20 09:22:38 AM
Mitt Rmoney personally saved the Olympics from the forces of doom. They must have saved a fortune by having no staff because he did it all by himself with no taxpayer money. What a cool dude.

That Obama guy was totally lame. Because, like, he went on that $40 billion european trip and junk. He asked those homos all nice and whatever... Dude totally got pwned! 0bama is a loser!
 
2012-02-20 09:51:18 AM
"We came together as a group people, not caring about who got credit but caring about putting on the best Games in the history"

But now he cares about taking credit
 
2012-02-20 09:58:06 AM
Wait. They're celebrating the 10th anniversary of the 2002 Olympic games...?

Why? Does anyone care? Do they actually do this every year? Does any other city hold anniversary ceremonies?

Not really sure I understand the point.
 
2012-02-20 10:09:20 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Not really sure I understand the point.


Tourism $$$$

they'll celebrate any goddamn thing to drum up sales. I know my town does crap like that.
 
2012-02-20 10:09:40 AM
Though Romney frequently cites his experience fixing the Salt Lake City Olympics

He may want to reword that
 
2012-02-20 10:18:08 AM
The only time that Americans care about the Olympics is when they're arguing with the Chinese about which is more important - overall medal count or number of gold medals.
 
2012-02-20 10:18:52 AM
In fairness, open racism and hatred of our black president is what motivated republicans against the Chicago Olympics.
 
2012-02-20 10:23:24 AM

ArkAngel: Though Romney frequently cites his experience fixing the Salt Lake City Olympics

He may want to reword that


But, see, he's trying to make up for that bland, Saltine image he's got going on.
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2012-02-20 10:25:03 AM
Don't Olympics usually have a profound negative impact on the host city/area? I think we ought to be thinking Obama for saving us from the games.
 
2012-02-20 10:25:03 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Wait. They're celebrating the 10th anniversary of the 2002 Olympic games...?

Why? Does anyone care? Do they actually do this every year? Does any other city hold anniversary ceremonies?

Not really sure I understand the point.


Because the dirty little secret of the Olympics is that the money never really comes in like hosting cities expect. Ask Greece how well their facilities they built are doing, China how much the Birdsnest brings in, and Montreal about what it's doing with the Montreal-Mirabel International Airport. Cities have to try and force the old Olympic games on people to to try and get some money out of it.
 
2012-02-20 10:25:13 AM
We don't need to host another Olympic Games for a long time. We just don't have the billions of dollars necessary to blow on hosting. Let some other nation pick up the tab.
 
2012-02-20 10:26:00 AM
Utah has been kicked out of Real America joining all the coastal states, Hawaii, and the Chicagoland area.
 
2012-02-20 10:27:55 AM

likes838: Because the dirty little secret of the Olympics is that the money never really comes in like hosting cities expect. Ask Greece how well their facilities they built are doing, China how much the Birdsnest brings in, and Montreal about what it's doing with the Montreal-Mirabel International Airport. Cities have to try and force the old Olympic games on people to to try and get some money out of it.


Oh, I KNOW that. But why hold an anniversary party celebrating that?

Do they actually do this every year?
 
2012-02-20 10:32:07 AM

ArkAngel: Though Romney frequently cites his experience fixing the Salt Lake City Olympics

He may want to reword that


Why? He's speaking directly to his base with that statement. The GOP loves them some fixed games.
 
2012-02-20 10:35:24 AM
So, there was a 10th anniversary celebration of the Olympics in Salt Lake City?

Is this something other host cities do is Salt Lake City like the former high school football star telling you about the big game while he unclogs your sink.
 
2012-02-20 10:38:05 AM

imontheinternet: The only time that Americans care about the Olympics is when they're arguing with the Chinese about which is more important - overall medal count or number of gold medals.


The Chinese weren't even in the running for either in 2002 and Norway got the most gold medals and Germany had the highest overall medal count (and more gold medals than the US too).
 
2012-02-20 10:47:59 AM

My Third Testicle: So, there was a 10th anniversary celebration of the Olympics in Salt Lake City?

Is this something other host cities do is Salt Lake City like the former high school football star telling you about the big game while he unclogs your sink.


I think it's something they count on when justifying spending billions of dollars on sporting venues that will only be used for a few weeks. It's not like Salt Lake has an active professional sports scene.

But your reason is funnier, so I'll give you that. I know the plumber of which you speak.
 
2012-02-20 10:49:59 AM
Obama once wiped a booger on me.
 
2012-02-20 10:55:31 AM

SN1987a goes boom: Don't Olympics usually have a profound negative impact on the host city/area? I think we ought to be thinking Obama for saving us from the games.


I grew sour on the idea of Chicago holding the 2016 Summer Olympics when Mayor Daley told the Olympic committee that Chicago would be financially responsible for any cost overruns. It would have been just like the cost overruns when Millennium Park was being built but ten times worse. A small number of people would have made a neat profit from the Olympics while Chicagoans would have gotten the privilege of picking up the tab.
 
2012-02-20 11:19:28 AM
As someone who lives in the Chicago area, I started following the whole Olympic bid process, and it's a fascinating web of worldwide politics (and, of course, money). Especially when it comes to the final voting process. And it's something of a puzzle to the U.S. delegates how to handle that political mess of game theory.

The U.S. comes in with a bucket of money, and a presentation that says, "we are awesome. We are the best."
Whether that's true or not is debatable, but that's usually the stance of the U.S. delegation.

Unfortunately, since it's not typically a single vote to win, but multiple votes to eliminate cities one-by-one, all of the voting delegates who have backed the lesser cities will join forces to eliminate the leading contender, to give the city that they are backing a better chance to win in the next vote with one less competitor. So you'll have a bunch of delegates voting for "Hungaristan" to elminate "Loopiston", and then some bloc of those "Hungaristan" voters will wind up voting for "Canakey" in the second round. And the U.S. Olympic committee has no idea of how to play these type of political games.

Rio was kind of pre-ordained to win this one anyway, given that the IOC really wanted a South America city REALLY BAD, and they let Rio continue with the process when they probably should've been eliminated early on due to a low technical score.

Anyway, as long as NBC continues to dole out baskets full of cash the Olympics without regard as to where it's played, the U.S. really has no chance of getting to host one for a long while.

Of course, the whole question of "are the Olympics are worth it to the host city" is another question altogether. Probably for the summer games, it's not, given the ridiculous amount of sports infrastructure you need to build, such as "the permanent stadium that will be a reminder of the awesomeness of the games that must hold a gazillion people for the opening and closing ceremonies."
 
2012-02-20 12:08:53 PM

ArkAngel: Though Romney frequently cites his experience fixing the Salt Lake City Olympics

He may want to reword that


Especially since there was a huge bribery scandal involving that bid.
 
2012-02-20 01:17:13 PM

ArkAngel: Though Romney frequently cites his experience fixing the Salt Lake City Olympics

He may want to reword that




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What people with experience fixing sporting events might look like.
 
2012-02-20 02:36:16 PM
The day Conservative pundits laughed and gloated that Chicago didn't get the Olympics was the day I promised myself I'd never vote for someone who associated themselves with the right-wing.

In a non-political sense however, the US has had 4 olympics since 1980 and if you include Montreal in 76 we've had 7 games that most Americans could cheaply go to. That's out of 18. In 32 years we've had almost half of the Olympic Games on this continent, not getting them in Chicago is not that surprising. Especially when the last Summer Olympics we hosted in Atlanta were seen as a gaudy over-commercialized mess by the rest of the world.
 
2012-02-20 02:50:37 PM

ArkAngel: Though Romney frequently cites his experience fixing the Salt Lake City Olympics

He may want to reword that


Or, remembering what happened at the last Olympics, not.
 
2012-02-20 03:41:59 PM

ArkAngel: Though Romney frequently cites his experience fixing the Salt Lake City Olympics

He may want to reword that


No, I think that's exactly right. The funny thing about Romney is that even when he's being disingenuous, his innate Boy Scout honesty forces the truth to the surface. It's not a positive trait for a politician, but I approve of it as it means you can always tell what he actually thinks.
 
2012-02-20 04:35:39 PM
The GOP directly COST Chicago the Olympics. They raised a huge stink about it, the IOC saw that, and the Olympics do not go where they are not wanted. They looked at the Republicans who descended on Chicago and screamed TAXES TAXES TAXES, concluded that Chicago doesn't want the Olympics, promptly dumped Chicago on its ass and concentrated on cities that actually looked like they wanted them.

In fact, the US Olympic committee decided against even bothering to bid for 2020 on the back of that fiasco.
 
2012-02-20 04:38:35 PM

likes838: Satanic_Hamster: Wait. They're celebrating the 10th anniversary of the 2002 Olympic games...?

Why? Does anyone care? Do they actually do this every year? Does any other city hold anniversary ceremonies?

Not really sure I understand the point.

Because the dirty little secret of the Olympics is that the money never really comes in like hosting cities expect. Ask Greece how well their facilities they built are doing, China how much the Birdsnest brings in, and Montreal about what it's doing with the Montreal-Mirabel International Airport. Cities have to try and force the old Olympic games on people to to try and get some money out of it.


Ask Los Angeles how to make money off of it. Ask Seoul how to convert the Olympics into South Korean democracy. You can get the Olympics to work out for you if you do things correctly. It's just that a lot of cities screw it up.
 
2012-02-20 06:55:41 PM
The Olympics are great for the economy -- just look at Greece!
 
2012-02-20 08:19:37 PM
Sometimes the Olympics are a boost, sometimes not. You've just got to know what it is that it actually brings and if that's worth the cost. I don't know why Vancouver had such a woody for getting the Olympics. It already has some of the most expensive real estate on earth and a high quality of life index. Letting everyone else know how awesome you are just leads to you being a magnet for every loser who wants out of their crappy life. It did get the funds loosened up for some needed transportation projects but in general, Vancouver would have been well off never spending the money they did.

Atlanta on the other hand got some good results out of the games. Sure they were way over commericalized but that's why the games actually turned a profit. Some of the facilities weren't used much after the games but quite a few were put to frequent use. Plus it gave the producers of RoboCop 3 an entire neighborhood to destroy on the site where Centennial Olympic Park was built. People all over the world now know the name Atlanta just because of the olympics. (Atlanta, more than a Delta hub!)

The biggest negative for Atlanta is that it lead to the metro for a period in the late 90s to be the fastest growing human settlement in history. No one planned for that and now you have people sitting in traffic for hours a day and no good way out of it (well, except to abandon much of the sprawland).
 
2012-02-20 08:21:16 PM

MrEricSir: The Olympics are great for the economy -- just look at Greece!


... and everybody they're dragging down with them. It's like buying a huge McMansion and not being able to afford to heat and cool it, much less furnish it.
 
2012-02-20 09:33:47 PM

Lunchlady: The day Conservative pundits laughed and gloated that Chicago didn't get the Olympics was the day I promised myself I'd never vote for someone who associated themselves with the right-wing.

In a non-political sense however, the US has had 4 olympics since 1980 and if you include Montreal in 76 we've had 7 games that most Americans could cheaply go to. That's out of 18. In 32 years we've had almost half of the Olympic Games on this continent, not getting them in Chicago is not that surprising. Especially when the last Summer Olympics we hosted in Atlanta were seen as a gaudy over-commercialized mess by the rest of the world.


RIP Richard Jewell.
 
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