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2012-02-20 07:45:43 AM  
Oh get real. You'd need to have marijuana to do this. I mean, do you know how many contractors were working on that thing?
 
2012-02-20 07:49:26 AM  
And what would it cost to launch all that steel into space?
 
2012-02-20 07:56:34 AM  

simplicimus: And what would it cost to launch all that steel into space?


I think it would make more sense to just mine the iron from asteroids.
 
2012-02-20 08:18:56 AM  

miss diminutive: simplicimus: And what would it cost to launch all that steel into space?

I think it would make more sense to just mine the iron from asteroids.


Yeah, but then there's mining, smelting, casting and shipping.
 
2012-02-20 09:00:52 AM  
This has got to be the 19th time this, or something just like this, has been green lit.
 
2012-02-20 09:02:01 AM  
lighted?
 
2012-02-20 09:02:49 AM  
I was just trying to calculate how many Big Gulps, Half-smokes and Porta Potties they'd need.....I'm gonna need a bigger calculator.
 
2012-02-20 09:03:13 AM  
why did they need the help of marijuana to build the death star? I had no idea the empire had access to weed. Oh wait...
 
2012-02-20 09:03:22 AM  
uhmmm yea.. the death star was made at a time where nothing on earth was relevant for comparison. Not only is the technology of the deathstar different (and not steel), but was made differently, by droids. Lots of droids.
 
2012-02-20 09:04:33 AM  

thelordofcheese: Oh get real. You'd need to have marijuana to do this. I mean, do you know how many contractors were working on that thing?


This. Headline is obvious faek.
 
2012-02-20 09:04:43 AM  
death star doesn't cost, it pays. the monthly income from starbucks alone is staggering.
 
2012-02-20 09:04:43 AM  
I'd like to see the construction yard.

It probably has 3D printers the size of Manhattan.
 
2012-02-20 09:04:45 AM  
that is no moon, It's my bong
 
2012-02-20 09:06:40 AM  
i seriously doubt you would use steel in that structure. too massive. would require too much fuel to move. I would hope that if you were advanced enough to build that thing, you would be advanced enough to think of a better construction material.
 
2012-02-20 09:09:40 AM  

McPoonDanlcrat: i seriously doubt you would use steel in that structure. too massive. would require too much fuel to move. I would hope that if you were advanced enough to build that thing, you would be advanced enough to think of a better construction material.


Mahogany?
 
2012-02-20 09:13:52 AM  

scarmig: McPoonDanlcrat: i seriously doubt you would use steel in that structure. too massive. would require too much fuel to move. I would hope that if you were advanced enough to build that thing, you would be advanced enough to think of a better construction material.

Mahogany?


Considering what happened, I'd guess Styrofoam.
 
2012-02-20 09:16:19 AM  
danno_to_infinity: that is no moon, It's my bong

If I was to calculate the cost of the death star it would require a bong that could be mistaken for a moon.
 
2012-02-20 09:17:44 AM  

tophergartman: This has got to be the 19th time this, or something just like this, has been green lit.


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2012-02-20 09:18:48 AM  
The Pak looks on with vague amusement at such a piffling project.
 
2012-02-20 09:24:38 AM  

JeffMD: uhmmm yea.. the death star was made at a time where nothing on earth was relevant for comparison. Not only is the technology of the deathstar different (and not steel), but was made differently, by droids. Lots of droids.


And considering a former friend (who was a big time Warsie) said they had to use an entire star system to build one Super Star Destroyer, you know like the one that crashed into the second death star, I think it would take quite a bit more than we have on earth to build one.
 
2012-02-20 09:26:33 AM  
Right.. the deathstar is a hollow steel shell comparable to modern warships. The reactors that power it couldnt have cost anything. And Darth Vader payed for it out of pocket because hes rich, certainly not the emperor who he serves under... Do people even think about how stupid theyre going to sound before they do shiat like this?
 
2012-02-20 09:26:44 AM  
Steel? They used Lucasium: an element only found in galaxies far, far away. And there was only enough to build two Death Stars which is why the war ended when the second one was destroyed.

Here, a miner mines Lucasium. But he's about to run afoul of Sinestar, the Guardian of Lucasium.

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2012-02-20 09:27:13 AM  

theorellior: The Pak looks on with vague amusement at such a piffling project.


I really wish they'd make the movie(s). The SFX exists.
 
2012-02-20 09:34:15 AM  

inglixthemad: And considering a former friend (who was a big time Warsie) said they had to use an entire star system to build one Super Star Destroyer, you know like the one that crashed into the second death star, I think it would take quite a bit more than we have on earth to build one.


Okay, I know it's all science fantasy space opera stuff, but a Super Star Destroyer isn't anywhere near as big as the Moon, and the mass of all the material in the solar system outweighs the Moon by at least 20 orders of magnitude. C'mon, people, THINK.

That's the problem with people trying to retcon actual science into a fictional universe. It just doesn't work, especially because nobody who tries to do it KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT SCIENCE, ENGINEERING OR MECHANICS.
 
2012-02-20 09:36:07 AM  

simplicimus: I really wish they'd make the movie(s). The SFX exists.


I dunno, there's probably a 90% chance it would suck, unless they got the right scriptwriter to properly modify things for cinema and not literature. And even then you'd have forty years of Niven fanboys frothing about another "nuke the fridge" moment.
 
2012-02-20 09:40:07 AM  

theorellior: simplicimus: I really wish they'd make the movie(s). The SFX exists.

I dunno, there's probably a 90% chance it would suck, unless they got the right scriptwriter to properly modify things for cinema and not literature. And even then you'd have forty years of Niven fanboys frothing about another "nuke the fridge" moment.


I see your point. There's a lot of back story about the Puppeteer's and the Kzin, plus the whole wirehead thing. Maybe a mini-series or a TV show.
 
2012-02-20 09:44:27 AM  

theorellior: inglixthemad: And considering a former friend (who was a big time Warsie) said they had to use an entire star system to build one Super Star Destroyer, you know like the one that crashed into the second death star, I think it would take quite a bit more than we have on earth to build one.

Okay, I know it's all science fantasy space opera stuff, but a Super Star Destroyer isn't anywhere near as big as the Moon, and the mass of all the material in the solar system outweighs the Moon by at least 20 orders of magnitude. C'mon, people, THINK.

That's the problem with people trying to retcon actual science into a fictional universe. It just doesn't work, especially because nobody who tries to do it KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT SCIENCE, ENGINEERING OR MECHANICS.


The real problem is that it is fiction period. What are the elements? What is their density? Is most of it (the density) used for the armored hull plating? What is needed to build the thing is irrelevant in the sense we CAN'T know.

The closest (in pure fiction) is probably Scrith. It has defined, although only in a limited way, properties of the material. Now some of that definition wasn't even done (or most of it if you think about it) by the author, but by people that figured out that stuff in their spare time.

I like hard sci-fi better than the goofy crap myself. Just like I think Lucas screwed up by having space fighters work like airplanes rather than spaceships like Stracynzski did in Babylon 5. Heck, I say that Lucas should be ashamed that a campy show like that had better space flight physics than his movies.
 
2012-02-20 09:44:32 AM  

scarmig: McPoonDanlcrat: i seriously doubt you would use steel in that structure. too massive. would require too much fuel to move. I would hope that if you were advanced enough to build that thing, you would be advanced enough to think of a better construction material.

Mahogany?


Rich Corinthian Leather.
 
2012-02-20 09:45:15 AM  

Coelacanth: I'd like to see the construction yard.

It probably has 3D printers the size of Manhattan.


3D printer technology used to make massive things gets mentioned at least twice in the canon of the Extended Universe. In "Heir to the Empire," there is mention of giant construction machines that were used on Coruscant to remodel buildings by crawling over the buildings and recarving things. Then, there was the Star Forge, which was basically a gigantic printer parked over a star that could spit out battleships and all other manner of large objects.
 
2012-02-20 09:45:36 AM  

JeffMD: ...Not only is the technology of the deathstar different (and not steel), but was made differently, by droids. Lots of droids.


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The Empire did not have Home Depots around?
 
2012-02-20 09:50:13 AM  
Emperor: Build me a ship capable of destroying planets. Make it big and round like the very future time AT&T logo.

Emperor's Government Contractors: Here are the plans. the fit neatly in to the R2 unit. Projected cost 2 billion Galactic Credits, Sir.

Emperor: Excellent. Build it at once.

Emperor's Government Contractors: Well, we don't know how to build stuff. We'll hire some contractors.

Contractors: Mini moon? 2 Billions space credits? No problem. Jobs for all the contractor's idiot friends.

Contractors: Here's a 2 billion dollar powerpoint with an embedded flash video showing the DeathingMiniMoon, as we call it, in Target Acquisition Mode. The DMM then goes to Target Destruction Mode. Boom. See? Now, mission complete, the DMM goes to Standby mode. Now to build it, we'll need 10 billion more. And six years.

Emperor: 10 billion is still a great deal. Proceed.

Contractors: By build, we mean, develop certain technologies. But when these technologies are finalized, actually building the DMM will be done faster and cheaper.

Emperor: Just do my bidding.

Contractors: Blank check? No problem. The DMM will be built in relatively no time with zero cost overruns thanks to that aforementioned blank check offer.

Twenty years later

Contractors: Here you go, Emperor. A 1/10000000th scale model of the DMM. See the LED lights? They flash randomly not alternately. It took us three years to develop the technology to do that. Then we patented it and sold it back to space ship builders.

Emperor: Where is my Death Star?

Contractors: Death Mini Moon, sir. Couldn't really build a star sized space ship. It would affect the gravity of planets you might not want destroyed. Don't you read the weekly updates and meeting notes? We made it smaller, not too small and it still blows up planets.

Emperor: Excellent. Where is my supreme weapon?

Contractors: Well, we haven't located the place to build it yet. Everyone wants the jobs but no one wants the be known as "the place that built the Death Mini Moon". We're still hoping to get a place in the Outer Rim. Of course, the costs...

Emperor: You're doing that thing with your fingers. What does it mean.

Contractors: More money, sir. We need more money. Why Bothan Defense Funds are 200% of current budget. But we're this close to starting construction.

Emperor: Just build my ship.

Twenty years later

Contractor: You'll be happy to know, sir, that the Death Mini Moon is a go! Hey! You're not the Emperor. Who are you.

New Guy: I'm an elected leader of the New Republic. The rebel alliance crushed the empire and deposed the Emperor years ago. We live in harmony. We have no need for a Death Mini Moon.

Contractor: Oh, then you'll need to finance the decommissioning and disposal of the Death Mini Moon. It's not going to be cheap, I warn you....
 
2012-02-20 09:51:05 AM  

inglixthemad: theorellior: inglixthemad:

I like hard sci-fi better than the goofy crap myself. Just like I think Lucas screwed up by having space fighters work like airplanes rather than spaceships like Stracynzski did in Babylon 5. Heck, I say that Lucas should be ashamed that a campy show like that had better space flight physics than his movies.


As much as I like B5, spaceships don't make sounds. But the physics were pretty good, except for the 180 turns the Starfuries would take. Momentum like that is hard to shed.
 
2012-02-20 09:51:35 AM  
Really? I'm the first?

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2012-02-20 09:54:36 AM  

Rude Turnip: Coelacanth: I'd like to see the construction yard.

It probably has 3D printers the size of Manhattan.

3D printer technology used to make massive things gets mentioned at least twice in the canon of the Extended Universe. In "Heir to the Empire," there is mention of giant construction machines that were used on Coruscant to remodel buildings by crawling over the buildings and recarving things. Then, there was the Star Forge, which was basically a gigantic printer parked over a star that could spit out battleships and all other manner of large objects.


i127.photobucket.com

Dude..you never go full starwars geek
 
2012-02-20 09:54:42 AM  
Isn't $8.1Q just under the figure Obama is throwing around for his next budget?
 
2012-02-20 09:55:45 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: Steel? They used Lucasium: an element only found in galaxies far, far away. And there was only enough to build two Death Stars which is why the war ended when the second one was destroyed.

Here, a miner mines Lucasium. But he's about to run afoul of Sinestar, the Guardian of Lucasium.

[www.arcade-museum.com image 240x292]


Run Coward! I Hunger!
 
2012-02-20 09:56:00 AM  
My plan for the Death Star would be a lot cheaper.
Step one involves hiring a wizard.
 
2012-02-20 09:59:10 AM  

tophergartman: This has got to be the 19th time this, or something just like this, has been green lit.


tophergartman: lighted?


Bogart!
 
2012-02-20 09:59:29 AM  

John Buck 41: Really? I'm the first?

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To be fair, I mentioned contractors.
 
2012-02-20 10:00:46 AM  

genner: My plan for the Death Star would be a lot cheaper.
Step one involves hiring a wizard.


How about a Jedi or a Sith? Pretty close to wizards.
 
2012-02-20 10:03:04 AM  
According to the article, that's just the outer hull and main infrastructure. They didn't even calculate the cost of the technology that you have to slap into the death star. I'm sure the main reactor isn't cheap, nor are the engines, tractor beams, shield generators, turbo laser turrets, and of course, the main death beam itself. Plus you have to supply the whole base with O2, H2O, food, waste disposal system, climate control systems, etc. to maintain the atmosphere for the crew. So those students get a D- on their calculations.
 
2012-02-20 10:04:03 AM  
Did they include a rail in their costs? Just for safety not for leaning on, of course.
 
2012-02-20 10:09:01 AM  
Oh those poor, bright-eyed, naive college students. They probably assumed the Empire legitimately paid for the construction costs and materials. I bet they even factored in some kind of minimum wage for the workers.
 
2012-02-20 10:13:08 AM  
PLASTEEL?

Doesn't anyone here use Wookieepedia?

Link (new window)
 
2012-02-20 10:17:36 AM  

inglixthemad: I like hard sci-fi better than the goofy crap myself.


Both can work, it's just you can't mix one with the other. Star Trek was better when it just relied on handwaving and didn't try to make the technobabble sound plausible. Star Was was fine when The Force was just magic and not magical mitochondria.

If you're gonna do a fantasy space opera, the only thing you need to do is keep the magic consistent, with its own internal rules, or else you'll destroy the suspension of disbelief.
 
2012-02-20 10:19:36 AM  

JeffMD: uhmmm yea.. the death star was made at a time where nothing on earth was relevant for comparison. Not only is the technology of the deathstar different (and not steel), but was made differently, by droids. Lots of droids.


But are the droids made of steel?
 
2012-02-20 10:21:15 AM  
Wait a second. one sentence in there doesn't make much sense to me (i know, just one)

"They calculated that from the iron in the earth, you could make just over 2 billion Death Stars."

at 87 miles in diameter (140 km) that would mean the volume is approximately 344,791 mi^3

the earth with a diameter of 7913 miles has a volume of 2.598 x 10^11 mi^3 (259,800,000,000 mi^3)

344,791 * 2,000,000,000 = 689,582,000,000,000

even if the earth was nothing but a ball of iron i find it hard to believe you could build 2 billion death stars with the iron (depending on the density of the deathstar)
 
2012-02-20 10:22:26 AM  

auralpleasure: even if the earth was nothing but a ball of iron i find it hard to believe you could build 2 billion death stars with the iron (depending on the density of the deathstar)


It sounds like you're assuming a solid iron Death Star.
 
2012-02-20 10:26:21 AM  

LowbrowDeluxe: scarmig: McPoonDanlcrat: i seriously doubt you would use steel in that structure. too massive. would require too much fuel to move. I would hope that if you were advanced enough to build that thing, you would be advanced enough to think of a better construction material.

Mahogany?

Rich CorinthianCorellian Leather.


FTFY.
 
2012-02-20 10:53:32 AM  
THE COST OF THE DEATH STAR
Darth is the richest man in the galaxy


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would like a word with you
 
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