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(LA Times)   The Simpson's 500th episode ends with the line: All we ask is that you go out and get some fresh air before logging on the internet and saying how much this sucked"   (latimes.com) divider line 252
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2012-02-20 02:00:47 PM

Tourney3p0: Why complain when you could simply not watch it? If it were no longer on the air, the only difference would be some other shiatty show would be on in that time slot. Like it or not, they're not bringing Titus back.


Because then this thread would be empty.
 
2012-02-20 02:02:10 PM

braedan: My grandpa is past his prime, but I wouldn't cancel him.


Does he have an onion on his belt?
 
2012-02-20 02:03:01 PM

mudesi: Seinfeld SUCKED after 4 or 5 seasons.


Seinfeld was the most consistently funny show I've ever watched.
 
2012-02-20 02:11:05 PM
Let me preface this by saying I love the simpsons, but didn't get a chance to watch the episode. I just wanted to drop this before anyone else did...

i44.tinypic.com
 
2012-02-20 02:16:02 PM

TheGhostofFarkPast: nameofperson: TheGhostofFarkPast: Prank Call of Cthulhu: Crewmannumber6: Can we talk about something a little more significant? Like the fact that Raylan didn't wear his Stetson ONCE in last weeks episode of Justified!

Or the fact that "The Walking Dead" has now become so lethally boring that a character in the show just spontaneously fell into a catatonic state in an effort to leave the narrative.

I know WTF. They have some pretty big things happen with the killing of everyone in the barn and Rick killing those guys in the bar but the rest of the time I just want to seriously hurt the rest of the cast because they do nothing but wine and listen have to put up with that redneck thug Shane.

I seriously want to quit The Walking Dead, but I fear I'd lose being part of the zeitgest if the show turns the corner. Still, it's the first time I see and continue with a show where I absolutely despise all of the leads and all the people involved.

The scene with Laurie in the car I desperately wanted the zombie to NOM on her face, then maybe go after Andrea.

/Even Hillbilly and Short Round have gotten on my nerves
//I'd totally disappoint his girl for him, though
///It's like Louis C.K said, I need my whole body to hate this show

I agree with all of this completely. I hate everyone in the cast at this point, I actually want the zombies to win right now. The only one who is worth watching is the guy from Boondock Saints. He's good at what he does and doesn't require to be a dick about it like Shane does.


But even now they've nerfed him with the whole "imma live alone in the woods, so screw these idiots" (which is the correct call) and the "i'm angry, this is my angry face" scene with the little girl's mom.
Not to mention that the thing with the guy and his leg was some of the most inconsistent and retarded things done on the show since the zombie in the well moment.Having Shane and Andrea lampshade it only infuriates me further.

/oh yeah, Simpsons suck
//can't wait for new Futurama
 
2012-02-20 02:16:57 PM
I said that all the new episodes suck back in 1996. You kids are way late to the hipster party.
 
2012-02-20 02:18:36 PM

forstmeister: Most people who hate The Simpsons probably loved it as a child/teenager/young adult. Now they are in their 30's or 40's complaining about a television show that still, amazingly enough panders to children/teenagers/young adults.

I loved the show as a kid. Now that I have kids, I have found that they love it while I merely like it. Imagine that-a show that found its niche and ran with for an unprecedented amount of time and continues to make tons of money while doing it.

Get over it-The Simpsons as you knew it is gone. But it's not for the reason you think. It's because, despite how you act on the internet, you did grow up a bit and your tastes changed.


I think I like you.
 
2012-02-20 02:25:18 PM

Wasilla Hillbilly: I don't really watch the show anymore, but I'm still glad it's out there.


???

Why?
 
2012-02-20 02:27:47 PM
I want a full episode of Grandpa rambling.
 
2012-02-20 02:37:30 PM

Edymnion: At this point, Simpsons is the third longest running scripted television show in history, behind only Lassie (588 episodes) and Gunsmoke (635 episodes).

Personally, I'd like to see Simpsons stay on the air to become the longest running scripted television show in history by a fair margin, so lets say hang it up at 700 episodes?


Wouldn't stuff like 'General Hospital' or 'Young and Restless' be longer?
 
2012-02-20 02:38:31 PM
Off topic: I used to watch the Simpsons right before Xena.

i876.photobucket.com

God, teenage me loved that show.
 
2012-02-20 02:40:37 PM
The Simpsons:

still making money
still entertaining lots of people


If you can't live with that, then go DIAF
 
2012-02-20 02:44:18 PM

Blushing Wall Flower: forstmeister: Most people who hate The Simpsons probably loved it as a child/teenager/young adult. Now they are in their 30's or 40's complaining about a television show that still, amazingly enough panders to children/teenagers/young adults.

I loved the show as a kid. Now that I have kids, I have found that they love it while I merely like it. Imagine that-a show that found its niche and ran with for an unprecedented amount of time and continues to make tons of money while doing it.

Get over it-The Simpsons as you knew it is gone. But it's not for the reason you think. It's because, despite how you act on the internet, you did grow up a bit and your tastes changed.

I think I like you.


Why, thank you.

It has always bothered when people piss and moan about The Simpsons getting stale.
 
2012-02-20 02:47:12 PM

myinternetname: The Simpsons:

still making money
still entertaining lots of people


If you can't live with that, then go DIAF



I'll give you the latter, but the former is why they're under contract renegotiations and may result in the cast taking a rather huge paycut.

four95: Wasilla Hillbilly: I don't really watch the show anymore, but I'm still glad it's out there.

???

Why?


"because it's better than 90% of other shows" is the common answer, though it ignores that other not-great shows are better than Simpsons in their current form. Granted, I'm sure the show will be replaced with something much worse, but TV Wallpaper (thanks Guntram Shatterhand) is a much worse fate and just gets in the way of another potentially great show airing.
 
2012-02-20 02:48:51 PM

Submitted First With a Better Headline: Off topic: I used to watch the Simpsons right before Xena.

[i876.photobucket.com image 640x591]

God, teenage me loved that show.


30-something me agrees.
 
2012-02-20 02:49:15 PM

DecemberNitro: Aquadyne: Archer
Futurama
American Dad
South Park

are all significantly better

Fail.


I agree completely. I hate the 'Roger' character with the passion of a thousand suns. If he is a central character I can't watch more than 85 seconds before my bloodpressure spikes. I now just completely avoid the show in order to never hear that terrible screechy, allcaps sort of voice. "AUUHAAAAHH.. STEVE, WHY DO YOU NEVER ____ WITH ME AUHAAAAH?!?!?"
Ugh.
It is actually very similar to King of the Hill and Peggy. Hey look, a Peggy-centric episode, no thanks, changing the channel.

How come no-one has talked about King of the Hill, another great animated show. It got out when the getting out was good though,
 
2012-02-20 02:57:49 PM

SharkaPult: It is actually very similar to King of the Hill and Peggy. Hey look, a Peggy-centric episode, no thanks, changing the channel.


I've always liked this episode.


my only problem with KOTH is that I never liked its episode where it was commenting on specific topics/subjects. (see also: South Park)
 
2012-02-20 03:01:07 PM
This thread in general

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-02-20 03:01:18 PM

TheGhostofFarkPast: Prank Call of Cthulhu: Crewmannumber6: Can we talk about something a little more significant? Like the fact that Raylan didn't wear his Stetson ONCE in last weeks episode of Justified!

Or the fact that "The Walking Dead" has now become so lethally boring that a character in the show just spontaneously fell into a catatonic state in an effort to leave the narrative.

I know WTF. They have some pretty big things happen with the killing of everyone in the barn and Rick killing those guys in the bar but the rest of the time I just want to seriously hurt the rest of the cast because they do nothing but wine and listen have to put up with that redneck thug Shane.


Blame the producers. They biatch constantly about how expensive the show is to produce. First episode they complained about how many different locations were used (hospitals, city streets, sewers, department stores, houses, neighborhoods, parks, where will it end?), and how expensive all that zombie makeup is. They, I kid you not, actually asked "Can we have an episode where we hear the zombies, but don't actually see them?"

Its why we get long stretches of the cast sitting in the same place just talking to each other, so they can save up enough of the budget to show the cool scenes.
 
2012-02-20 03:01:56 PM
i.imgur.com

Just sayin'.
 
2012-02-20 03:03:02 PM

Sybarite: J. Frank Parnell: I'm not big on TV, but the Simpsons is still one of the few shows i'll watch if it's on.

Even the bad episodes are better than pretty much anything else.


Yeah, except you know Community, Parks and Rec, Louie, The Walking Dead, Homeland, Portlandia, Always Sunny, Archer, Bored to Death, Boardwalk Empire, Friday Night Lights, Up All Night, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Breaking Bad, Justified, The Killing, Raising Hope, Eastbound and Down, Sons of Anarchy, Enlightened, Fringe, Game of Thrones...


Up All Night, really? Your list just fell apart with that one. Portlandia too, who can watch that show? Its retarded. But the Simpsons is bad? GTFOOH
 
2012-02-20 03:04:48 PM

forstmeister: Blushing Wall Flower: forstmeister: Most people who hate The Simpsons probably loved it as a child/teenager/young adult. Now they are in their 30's or 40's complaining about a television show that still, amazingly enough panders to children/teenagers/young adults.

I loved the show as a kid. Now that I have kids, I have found that they love it while I merely like it. Imagine that-a show that found its niche and ran with for an unprecedented amount of time and continues to make tons of money while doing it.

Get over it-The Simpsons as you knew it is gone. But it's not for the reason you think. It's because, despite how you act on the internet, you did grow up a bit and your tastes changed.

I think I like you.

Why, thank you.

It has always bothered when people piss and moan about The Simpsons getting stale.


To be fair, after 20 years, the creativity pool does have to be drying up. There's only so many situations you can put the exact same group of characters into before it becomes mundane. So maybe it's a little of both, coupled with individual perception and this "Nobody likes it, therefore I don't like it" mentality in this country. It is what it is though, not going to condemn someone for a well thought opinion either for or against.
 
2012-02-20 03:05:54 PM
Well, when it airs, I'll still watch it.

I may not be a fan of new seasons, but I watch out of habit and nostalgia.
 
2012-02-20 03:09:56 PM

RedPhoenix122: forstmeister: Blushing Wall Flower: forstmeister: Most people who hate The Simpsons probably loved it as a child/teenager/young adult. Now they are in their 30's or 40's complaining about a television show that still, amazingly enough panders to children/teenagers/young adults.

I loved the show as a kid. Now that I have kids, I have found that they love it while I merely like it. Imagine that-a show that found its niche and ran with for an unprecedented amount of time and continues to make tons of money while doing it.

Get over it-The Simpsons as you knew it is gone. But it's not for the reason you think. It's because, despite how you act on the internet, you did grow up a bit and your tastes changed.

I think I like you.

Why, thank you.

It has always bothered when people piss and moan about The Simpsons getting stale.

To be fair, after 20 years, the creativity pool does have to be drying up. There's only so many situations you can put the exact same group of characters into before it becomes mundane. So maybe it's a little of both, coupled with individual perception and this "Nobody likes it, therefore I don't like it" mentality in this country. It is what it is though, not going to condemn someone for a well thought opinion either for or against.


I think it's more of a "I don't like it, so nobody should like it" perception, but yeah, agreed.
 
2012-02-20 03:12:59 PM

Blushing Wall Flower: I think it's more of a "I don't like it, so nobody should like it" perception, but yeah, agreed.




Though I admit I'm guilty of this, I also like arguing over things I otherwise like and it's annoying when the counterargument about the lack of quality in newer episodes the Simpsons generally is just "yeah, but it's still better than other shows". Hell, I enjoy Bob's Burgers over newer Simpsons episodes... and Bob's Burgers isn't really that great of a show.
 
2012-02-20 03:13:46 PM

Blushing Wall Flower: I think it's more of a "I don't like it, so nobody should like it" perception, but yeah, agreed.


Some are leaders, some are followers, works both ways in this case, I think.
 
2012-02-20 03:19:27 PM

punistation: [i.imgur.com image 357x640]

Just sayin'.


Whoever made that seems a little gay. Just sayin'.
 
2012-02-20 03:21:05 PM

pedrop357: he Simpsons does the same crap that Family Guy does


Hardly.

Family Guy and American dad are stealth homosexual comedies. All those little homophobic kids who watch it don't really notice they mention homosexuality at last once per minute, and the theme as well as any other songs in them are all showtunes. They'll later find themselves in their twenties, singing showtunes and joking like a bitter drag queen, then the cold realization will set in: someone slipped them the gay. "How could this have happened? I'm not gay, that's what's so crazy about this!" they'll insist, to no avail.

NTTAWWT. But the fixation on gay stuff is the main thing that sets Family Guy and American Dad apart from the Simpsons for me. And kudos to them for sneaking all that gay stuff to people who are normally hostile towards anything remotely homosexual, but it's still not a show i really enjoy.
 
2012-02-20 03:23:44 PM

J. Frank Parnell: I'm not big on TV, but the Simpsons is still one of the few shows i'll watch if it's on.

Even the bad episodes are better than pretty much anything else.


You clearly aren't big on TV then. There are a whole lot of comedies that are much, much better than "The Simpsons" (and there are some great dramas, too).

Give Archer a shot if you are into what I'm sure Netflix would call Irreverent Animated Shows.
 
2012-02-20 03:26:12 PM

Nick Spiceyweiner: Sybarite: J. Frank Parnell: I'm not big on TV, but the Simpsons is still one of the few shows i'll watch if it's on.

Even the bad episodes are better than pretty much anything else.


Yeah, except you know Community, Parks and Rec, Louie, The Walking Dead, Homeland, Portlandia, Always Sunny, Archer, Bored to Death, Boardwalk Empire, Friday Night Lights, Up All Night, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Breaking Bad, Justified, The Killing, Raising Hope, Eastbound and Down, Sons of Anarchy, Enlightened, Fringe, Game of Thrones...

Up All Night, really? Your list just fell apart with that one. Portlandia too, who can watch that show? Its retarded. But the Simpsons is bad? GTFOOH


People who like funny things? So, not people who watch The Simpsons.

/Up All Night DOES suck, though.
 
2012-02-20 03:34:19 PM

punistation: [i.imgur.com image 357x640]

Just sayin'.


OH MY GOD THIS
 
2012-02-20 03:39:53 PM

Smelly McUgly: You clearly aren't big on TV then. There are a whole lot of comedies that are much, much better than "The Simpsons" (and there are some great dramas, too).


Wasn't really impressed with Archer. I like Jon Benjamin, but it's not the right vehicle for his voice. I liked Frisky Dingo more, and it think it was made by the same folks, but never really caught many episodes of it.

And i have even less time for dramas than i do comedies. Especially all that CSI and Law and Order stuff. I find it all insufferable.
 
2012-02-20 03:43:26 PM

RedPhoenix122: Blushing Wall Flower: I think it's more of a "I don't like it, so nobody should like it" perception, but yeah, agreed.

Some are leaders, some are followers, works both ways in this case, I think.


There must be something about Fark...it attracts leaders.

:)
 
2012-02-20 03:44:25 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com
Let's not forget, the Simpsons showed that prime time cartooning can be both good as well as profitable. This led the way to some other pretty good stuff, I tell ya h'what.
 
2012-02-20 03:45:31 PM

Smelly McUgly: Give Archer a shot if you are into what I'm sure Netflix would call Irreverent Animated Shows.


YUUUUP!
 
2012-02-20 03:59:08 PM

9beers: How do people know the Simpsons suck if they stopped watching years ago because it sucked?


This.
I haven't watched The Simpsons in years. I did catch most of the episode last night (I was busy and trying to do more than one thing at a time) and I didn't think it sucked at all.
 
2012-02-20 04:14:24 PM

punistation: [i.imgur.com image 357x640]

Just sayin'.


The comparison loses a lot of its credibility when, right after dismissing Homer as "borderline retarded," it refers to Bart as a "looser sidekick."
 
2012-02-20 04:15:07 PM
I liked Sunday's episode and I've enjoyed this season. Quite frankly, the switch to HD was good for the show, because they seemed to have upped their game since they went all widescreen. I've enjoyed many of the new episodes and I'll keep watching whenever I remember they're on. (Because sometimes I have things to do.)
 
2012-02-20 04:22:25 PM

SharkaPult: DecemberNitro: Aquadyne: Archer
Futurama
American Dad
South Park

are all significantly better

Fail.

I agree completely. I hate the 'Roger' character with the passion of a thousand suns. If he is a central character I can't watch more than 85 seconds before my bloodpressure spikes. I now just completely avoid the show in order to never hear that terrible screechy, allcaps sort of voice. "AUUHAAAAHH.. STEVE, WHY DO YOU NEVER ____ WITH ME AUHAAAAH?!?!?"
Ugh.
It is actually very similar to King of the Hill and Peggy. Hey look, a Peggy-centric episode, no thanks, changing the channel.

How come no-one has talked about King of the Hill, another great animated show. It got out when the getting out was good though,


I never really appreciated KOTH until it ended, but it was a really great counterbalance to the Simpsons back when they shared a night. I remember listening to a Simpsons commentary where Greg Daniels talked about how they set out to make something that was almost the complete opposite of the Simpsons: slow paced, with more subtle, character-driven humor. It also tended to have some amazingly funny sub-plots, especially the ones involving Dale.

I think the two shows that carry the legacy of classic Simpsons the best are 30 Rock and Archer. The former with the lightning-fast pacing and jokes, and the latter with its remarkable consistent quality and amazing voice acting.
 
2012-02-20 04:46:57 PM

Egoy3k: I wasn't aware that the Simpsons needed to be relatable. One of the best episodes of all time features Homer working for a Bond style supervillian and another great one features him working for NASA.


The "working for the super rich madman" episode was hilarious, since nobody ever really tried to tell the story of what it was like to work for a person / organization like that. The mixture of a hip and edgy boss combined with plans for global terrorism was beautiful.

The "Homer goes into outer space" thing was pretty dumb.

Haoie: Well, when it airs, I'll still watch it.

I may not be a fan of new seasons, but I watch out of habit and nostalgia.


This is the only reason why SNL is still on the air.

Archer gets my vote for best animated comedy on TV.
 
2012-02-20 04:47:41 PM

Fear the Clam: punistation: [i.imgur.com image 357x640]

Just sayin'.

The comparison loses a lot of its credibility when, right after dismissing Homer as "borderline retarded," it refers to Bart as a "looser sidekick."


AMEN
 
2012-02-20 04:48:46 PM

nameofperson: TheGhostofFarkPast: Prank Call of Cthulhu: Crewmannumber6: Can we talk about something a little more significant? Like the fact that Raylan didn't wear his Stetson ONCE in last weeks episode of Justified!

Or the fact that "The Walking Dead" has now become so lethally boring that a character in the show just spontaneously fell into a catatonic state in an effort to leave the narrative.

I know WTF. They have some pretty big things happen with the killing of everyone in the barn and Rick killing those guys in the bar but the rest of the time I just want to seriously hurt the rest of the cast because they do nothing but wine and listen have to put up with that redneck thug Shane.

I seriously want to quit The Walking Dead, but I fear I'd lose being part of the zeitgest if the show turns the corner. Still, it's the first time I see and continue with a show where I absolutely despise all of the leads and all the people involved.

The scene with Laurie in the car I desperately wanted the zombie to NOM on her face, then maybe go after Andrea.

/Even Hillbilly and Short Round have gotten on my nerves
//I'd totally disappoint his girl for him, though
///It's like Louis C.K said, I need my whole body to hate this show


I stopped on the Walking Dead earlier this season. I'm just not interested anymore while they walk around meeting other rednecks. I kinda was hoping for something more when they met the scientist in the Hatch - I mean CDC.
 
2012-02-20 04:55:33 PM
I have been one of the biggest Simpsons fans ever and still watch it. But I must admit its getting taxing to see about 30 diff. What the kids grown up will be like episodes.
 
2012-02-20 04:56:20 PM

AngryPanda:
I stopped on the Walking Dead earlier this season. I'm just not interested anymore while they walk around meeting other rednecks. I kinda was hoping for something more when they met the scientist in the Hatch - I mean CDC.


I still have to watch the two latest episodes. It's simply not a priority to watch for me after the first half of this season. I was really hoping the farm would take up only a few episodes. Then they could move onto the prison or whatever they're planning for the tv series. At this rate, the Governor won't show up for a few more years (if they even keep that plot).
 
2012-02-20 04:56:59 PM

fireclown: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 310x432]
Let's not forget, the Simpsons showed that prime time cartooning can be both good as well as profitable. This led the way to some other pretty good stuff, I tell ya h'what.


Mission Hill > King of the Hill

/and I love King of the Hill
 
2012-02-20 04:59:06 PM
brantgoose: 9beers: How do people know the Simpsons suck if they stopped watching years ago because it sucked?

The same way that people who stopped eating some dish or other when they were ten because they had one bad experience know that they don't like (insert name of food or dish here). Once you have formed a negative opinion there is no reason to ever examine it or change it.

I hate milk. I have hated milk since childhood. Yes, I can drink a glass of milk. I can even enjoy a glass of milk, particularly if it is flavoured. But I would never intentionally order a glass of milk and I don't have any in the house. I cook without milk, and use powdered milk when I absolutely need it. Milk will always taste the same, give or take a little, so I don't need to revise my opinions every decade. Milk still sucks and will suck forever, until, of course, I lose my taste altogether.

Most anti-Simpsons trolls never got it in the first place, or else think it is clever to knock something that is popular, old, or whatever. They will be just as dedicated to hating, say, reading or whatever. Illiterates hate books. Novelty trolls hate anything no longer novel. Latest thing hate anything that has ceased to be the latest thing. Black is, however, the new black, and always will be. It has never ceased to be the new thing, since the first little old Italian lady made a dress from black wool and decided that black is not just the best color, it is the only color.



Yeah, but how do you feel about malk?
 
2012-02-20 05:00:31 PM

Mr. Chainsaw: I think the two shows that carry the legacy of classic Simpsons the best are 30 Rock and Archer.


I would add Community as well. Oddly enough, the shows that are the most Simpsons-esque are all live action shows.
 
2012-02-20 05:00:38 PM
Yes, "The Simpsons" sucks. (Episode 500 especially) But I also watched last week's episode (first time watching a new episode in years) and there was one simple joke that put the entire episodes of "Bob's Burgers" and "Napoleon Dynamite" to shame. "Now that's a-spicey meet-cute!"
 
2012-02-20 05:07:59 PM

Sybarite: J. Frank Parnell: I'm not big on TV, but the Simpsons is still one of the few shows i'll watch if it's on.

Even the bad episodes are better than pretty much anything else.


Yeah, except you know Community, Parks and Rec, Louie, The Walking Dead, Homeland, Portlandia, Always Sunny, Archer, Bored to Death, Boardwalk Empire, Friday Night Lights, Up All Night, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Breaking Bad, Justified, The Killing, Raising Hope, Eastbound and Down, Sons of Anarchy, Enlightened, Fringe, Game of Thrones...


And how many other shows are there on TV? You've probably listed less than 1% of TV Programming in your post.

You listed 22 shows. There's several HUNDRED TV channels.
 
2012-02-20 05:10:51 PM

Maynotlast: Yes, "The Simpsons" sucks. (Episode 500 especially) But I also watched last week's episode (first time watching a new episode in years) and there was one simple joke that put the entire episodes of "Bob's Burgers" and "Napoleon Dynamite" to shame. "Now that's a-spicey meet-cute!"


Again, relying on a years old joke. It's a mutation of "That's a spicy meatball!" which is itself a Simpsons quote.
 
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