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		Religious group accuses MSNBC of deliberately trying to make conservatives look bad by inviting them onto MSNBC programs and letting them speak in front of cameras (huffingtonpost.com)		114
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make me some tea		2012-02-19 08:02:30 PM

hahahah awesome

Reminds me of when Bob Schieffer said this on Face the Nation: Link (new window)

Love it.

hubiestubert		2012-02-19 08:28:07 PM

It is akin to Newt claiming how dare people quote him directly from his previous appearances and interviews...

fusillade762		2012-02-19 08:28:47 PM

Keep digging, fundies, keep digging.

Kumana Wanalaia		2012-02-19 08:31:07 PM

Liberals are truly devious.

L Buff		2012-02-19 08:32:08 PM

Uhhh ... did subby (or anyone) read the same article I did?

The religious group in question is NOT a conservative organization ... as least as to GLBT issues.

culebra		2012-02-19 08:32:52 PM

Curse you liberal puppet masters!

Flappyhead		2012-02-19 08:33:17 PM

They have a very valid point. The problem, however, isn't with MSNBC, it's with the asshat leaders within the GOP who align themselves with those raving maniacs.

Gergesa		2012-02-19 08:33:52 PM

words have a liberal bias?

dumbobruni		2012-02-19 08:34:11 PM

no subby, its moderate religious voices trying to stop the crazy train

obviously subby missed the Reverend at 2:00 calling for an end to gay bashing

Knight of the Woeful Countenance		2012-02-19 08:34:20 PM

L Buff: Uhhh ... did subby (or anyone) read the same article I did?

The religious group in question is NOT a conservative organization ... as least as to GLBT issues.

right.. The impression I got was a Christian group decided they didn't want farkwad representing the Christian faith on MSNBC because he spews all that hateful bile and hides behind the cross...

sounds to me they're doing what all Christians should be doing and telling people like this to STFU.

Lionel Mandrake		2012-02-19 08:35:22 PM

Tony Perkins is undeniably a jackass and the FRC are unchristian, sanctimonious, judgmental assholes, but rather than ask for MSNBC to keep him off the air, kindly ask to appear with him.

The best way to shut that puke down is to counter his hate with kindness. I want these people out in the clear light of day but I don't want to hear them give monologues. Make them explain their un-Christlike actions.

farkityfarker		2012-02-19 08:35:28 PM

terrorism is a strike against the general populous

I guess the transcriber of the comment and the person who proofread the article were both asleep.

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich		2012-02-19 08:36:56 PM

Knight of the Woeful Countenance: The impression I got was a Christian group decided they didn't want farkwad representing the Christian faith on MSNBC because he spews all that hateful bile and hides behind the cross...

Bishop Gene Robinson is the one that made headlines years ago for being the first openly gay male ordained as a bishop. He's definitely not the average conservative Christian, and Episcopalians as a whole tend to be damn liberal, though not all.

/grew up in the Episcopal Church.

Hobodeluxe		2012-02-19 08:38:34 PM

hey they just supply the rope. what he does with it is his own business.

turbidum		2012-02-19 08:41:06 PM

hubiestubert: It is akin to Newt claiming how dare people quote him directly from his previous appearances and interviews...

That is nothing like this.

fusillade762: Keep digging, fundies, keep digging.

All Christians are not fundies, which is the point of the group petitioning MSNBC.

L Buff: Uhhh ... did subby (or anyone) read the same article I did?

The religious group in question is NOT a conservative organization ... as least as to GLBT issues.

No, everyone else in the thread would rather fap while thinking about how retarded fundamentalist Christians can be.

/oh yeah, so retarded. tell me again how the earth is only 6,000 years old. mmm. . . oh yeah. now tell me again how much gays are ruining the world. ohhhh, fark yes. keep going, keep going, don't stop. POTATO!!!!
//potat-O face.

A Dark Evil Omen		2012-02-19 08:42:55 PM

I'm fine with Christians who do not ride the extremist right-wing crazy train demanding equal time.

I am also fine with MSNBC and anyone else letting the crazy train riders show their asses to the world and discredit themselves as much as possible.

Tough call.

Dafatone		2012-02-19 08:43:29 PM

The problem is that the media isn't there to sell any viewpoint. It's there to make you watch. By yelling that every issue is a tightly-contested debate.

So when you have an issue that's decent people versus assholes, both sides get to talk instead of calling the assholes assholes.

A Dark Evil Omen		2012-02-19 08:44:18 PM

turbidum: hubiestubert: It is akin to Newt claiming how dare people quote him directly from his previous appearances and interviews...

That is nothing like this.

fusillade762: Keep digging, fundies, keep digging.

All Christians are not fundies, which is the point of the group petitioning MSNBC.

L Buff: Uhhh ... did subby (or anyone) read the same article I did?

The religious group in question is NOT a conservative organization ... as least as to GLBT issues.

No, everyone else in the thread would rather fap while thinking about how retarded fundamentalist Christians can be.

/oh yeah, so retarded. tell me again how the earth is only 6,000 years old. mmm. . . oh yeah. now tell me again how much gays are ruining the world. ohhhh, fark yes. keep going, keep going, don't stop. POTATO!!!!
//potat-O face.

It's a tough call. You can't possibly claim that the FRC is not a politically powerful and dangerous group that should have a lot of light shone on their shenanigans.

insertsnarkyusername		2012-02-19 08:45:56 PM

That seemed reasonable.

Jim_Callahan		2012-02-19 08:46:26 PM

Um, I've gotta say that a group of non-crazy christians asking that MSNBC stop presenting the FRC as a legitimate and widely-accepted Christian institution seems pretty reasonable. Even the craziest right-wingers that I know think that those guys are irrational douchebags who should back off.

Curse of the Goth Kids		2012-02-19 08:46:31 PM

L Buff: Uhhh ... did subby (or anyone) read the same article I did?

The religious group in question is NOT a conservative organization ... as least as to GLBT issues.

I am shocked -- SHOCKED -- to discover that TFA was anything other than what was advertised!

turbidum		2012-02-19 08:49:45 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: It's a tough call. You can't possibly claim that the FRC is not a politically powerful and dangerous group that should have a lot of light shone on their shenanigans.

I agree. I'm glad that mainstream Christians are standing up to the fundies.

brainiac-dumdum		2012-02-19 08:50:26 PM

Yes, he hate monger. However, the man is hugely influential in the Republican party and is a valid guest.

A Dark Evil Omen		2012-02-19 08:51:39 PM

Jim_Callahan: Um, I've gotta say that a group of non-crazy christians asking that MSNBC stop presenting the FRC as a legitimate and widely-accepted Christian institution seems pretty reasonable. Even the craziest right-wingers that I know think that those guys are irrational douchebags who should back off.

They have half a million members and hold significant sway over the voting patterns of evangelical Christian voters. They're as mainstream a right-wing group as it gets.

fusillade762		2012-02-19 08:53:25 PM

turbidum: fusillade762: Keep digging, fundies, keep digging.

All Christians are not fundies, which is the point of the group petitioning MSNBC.

Maybe not. But the loudest and most irritating ones usually are. And they make ALL Christians look bad.

turbidum		2012-02-19 08:57:26 PM

fusillade762: turbidum: fusillade762: Keep digging, fundies, keep digging.

All Christians are not fundies, which is the point of the group petitioning MSNBC.

Maybe not. But the loudest and most irritating ones usually are. And they make ALL Christians look bad.

which is the point of the group petitioning MSNBC.

gaspode		2012-02-19 08:57:33 PM

See what they are saying SOUNDS fine, until you realise that his views are a better representative of conservative christian thought than theirs are. A hell of a lot of christians dont even think people like them ARE christians, let alone representative of mainstream US christianity.

RandomExcess		2012-02-19 08:59:41 PM

This smells like a false flag effort to silence a leading voice for traditional issues.

rynthetyn		2012-02-19 09:00:07 PM

Reading is hard, eh, subby?

And I really am sick of MSNBC giving airtime to Tony Perkins, it's about the same as giving airtime to David Duke in a misguided attempt to provide equal time opposite Al Sharpton.

Funbags		2012-02-19 09:06:37 PM

Jim_Callahan: Um, I've gotta say that a group of non-crazy christians asking that MSNBC stop presenting the FRC as a legitimate and widely-accepted Christian institution seems pretty reasonable.

This.

/Just like Muslims don't want the world to think Bin Laden spoke for them
/and atheists don't want Bill Maher

hubiestubert		2012-02-19 09:13:06 PM

turbidum: hubiestubert: It is akin to Newt claiming how dare people quote him directly from his previous appearances and interviews...

That is nothing like this.

You are correct in the case of the article. Mea culpa.

andrewagill		2012-02-19 09:14:02 PM

Subby, I think you need to read a little closer. All they want is to get this psycho off the air:

And frankly, I don't blame them.

PsiChick		2012-02-19 09:15:34 PM

MrEricSir		2012-02-19 09:16:13 PM

I'm surprised groups advocating for the mentally handicapped aren't fighting to get this guy off the air. Putting him in front of a camera and letting him speak is cruel and makes fun of his disability.

swaniefrmreddeer		2012-02-19 09:24:45 PM

Perkins is a "true Christian ", he's a bible lliterallist. Without Adam and Eve, there is no original sin, there for no need for god to farther himself, so he can be crucified.

sparkeyjames		2012-02-19 09:27:19 PM

A Dark Evil Omen:

I am also fine with MSNBC and anyone else letting the crazy train riders show their asses to the world and discredit themselves as much as possible.

There's only one small problem with this. There are a whole lot more crazy people out there that will board that train
when exposed to that type of stupid. It's when the train get fully booked that you gotta start worrying.

DMMidwest		2012-02-19 09:32:47 PM

I find his whole stick repulsive. The problem is reasonable Christian voices are rarely given the chance to speak on the public airwaves because it doesn't make for compelling TV. Watch Bill Moyers on PBS sometime. Most of the signers (like me) use complete sentences, nuance, irony and wit to support our points of view. Or at least we try. And we get sarcasm and hypocrisy, too.

Spong and Robinson speak for an awful lot of Christians, just not the kind that make for entertaining, 24-hour-news cycle clips.

You may not agree with my views on religion, and that's fine. We live in a free country where you're free to think I'm full of shiat, and I'm OK with that, too. I don't believe America should be a fundy-Christian theocracy, as Santorum seems to be proposing. You may think I'm nuts for the croutons-and-shot glasses in church, too. But, it works for me. And for a lot of folks. We all have our own schtick. Some is more intrusive and demanding than others.

I just wish they'd quit claiming that, because we both claim the name "Christian" that we're saying the same thing. Because we ain't.

wademh		2012-02-19 09:50:37 PM

Regards the dreaded Doug Piranha: He used... sarcasm. He knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor, bathos, puns, parody, litotes and... satire. He was vicious.

You think that's vicious? We let them talk in front of cameras.

Gyrfalcon		2012-02-19 09:52:49 PM

L Buff: Uhhh ... did subby (or anyone) read the same article I did?

The religious group in question is NOT a conservative organization ... as least as to GLBT issues.

In subby's defense, the article is extremely confusingly written as to who is complaining about what to whom.

To better summarize, Faithful America (a faith-based group) which is NOT very conservative as to GLBT issues, wants Tony Perkins and the Family Research Council (another faith-based group) which IS conservative and also a bunch of dickwads as to GLBT issues, not to be on MSNBC, because of their stance on said issues (probably wide).

Essentially, one religious group is condemning another religious group for being assholes.

fusillade762		2012-02-19 09:57:53 PM

turbidum: fusillade762: turbidum: fusillade762: Keep digging, fundies, keep digging.

All Christians are not fundies, which is the point of the group petitioning MSNBC.

Maybe not. But the loudest and most irritating ones usually are. And they make ALL Christians look bad.

which is the point of the group petitioning MSNBC.

Well then they should try getting Mr Perkins to shut his cock hole, not bug MSNBC for doing legitimate journalism.

And "Tony Perkins"? Guy sounds like a psycho.

L Buff		2012-02-19 10:00:55 PM

Gyrfalcon

In subby's defense, the article is extremely confusingly written as to who is complaining about what to whom.

No offense ... but it's not that confusing ... at least to those with a modicum of reading comprehension skills.

DeaH		2012-02-19 10:01:01 PM

I'm torn. I don't like the idea of people like Perkins being seen as representing the Mainstream. On the other hand, people like Perkins do have a lot of pull in the Republican Party - the party that held hearings on birth control just last week. We should hear what guys like Perkins have to say because we should be aware what these farkers are up to.

Thirty years ago, I told my friends that the people on the 700 Club were gunning for PBS and the NEA. My friends all laughed and said there was no reason to worry. And then it happened. We need to be aware of the crazies who have power.

turbidum		2012-02-19 10:06:24 PM

fusillade762: Well then they should try getting Mr Perkins to shut his cock hole

THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO. Jeebus.

fusillade762: not bug MSNBC for doing legitimate journalism.

Legitimate journalism? How can you defend this as legitimate journalism?

Somacandra		2012-02-19 10:09:00 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Tony Perkins is undeniably a jackass and the FRC are unchristian, sanctimonious, judgmental assholes, but rather than ask for MSNBC to keep him off the air, kindly ask to appear with him.

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HA HA!

A mass media outlet allowing for various perspectives within religious traditions? Thassa good one...

Somacandra		2012-02-19 10:15:37 PM

R.I.P. TONY BOBBINS

hubiestubert		2012-02-19 10:18:26 PM

Somacandra: Lionel Mandrake: Tony Perkins is undeniably a jackass and the FRC are unchristian, sanctimonious, judgmental assholes, but rather than ask for MSNBC to keep him off the air, kindly ask to appear with him.

HA HA!

A mass media outlet allowing for various perspectives within religious traditions? Thassa good one...

To be fair, there were a bunch of ministers and clergy who signed on to encourage Congresscritters about marriage equality.

Of course, you didn't exactly see those ministers, rabbis, priests or Imams interviewed...

Somacandra		2012-02-19 10:25:41 PM

hubiestubert: To be fair, there were a bunch of ministers and clergy who signed on to encourage Congresscritters about marriage equality. Of course, you didn't exactly see those ministers, rabbis, priests or Imams interviewed...

I completely agree. Like many others (new window), I have a huge problem with how American mass media treats religion.

God-is-a-Taco		2012-02-19 11:05:57 PM

It's always good to see people that manage to be good despite their religious nature.

Do they really think someone watching MSNBC is going to be converted into hating gays by some religious guy brought on the show to be laughed at?

DrBenway		2012-02-19 11:20:36 PM

Is it really necessary to resort to such gyrations for a greenlighted headline, subby? It's not as if they need your help to look any more ridiculous.