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2012-02-19 08:28:11 PM

sammyk: Why do these asshats do this crap in SC. It will never end well.

I was at a fishing tournement off the piers in SC one year. They thought it would be a good idea to to scuba under the pier with scissors and cut lines. We all stopped fishing for mackerel and changed gear for "large" fish.

As a matter of fact law enforcement did show up and told the asshats they were being stupid and endangering themselves. Told them if they got back in the water they would be arrested.


In some states, interfering with the lawful taking of game IS an arrestable offense.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-02-19 08:28:41 PM
SN1987a goes boom: Shooting in the direction of a highway is pretty serious crime in pretty much any country.

It's a minor misdemeanor in the states where I've seen a punishment listed.
 
2012-02-19 08:29:18 PM
Site is farked.
 
2012-02-19 08:30:24 PM
Link Farkied? That was quick.
 
2012-02-19 08:30:51 PM
The site gets farked, that's what's gonna happen.
 
2012-02-19 08:31:41 PM
I thought the link was going to work. Nope. Anyone got the story?
 
2012-02-19 08:32:07 PM
i'm sorry there are people so broke-ass they have to hunt and eat pigeons

/i like my pheasant under glass, biotch
 
2012-02-19 08:32:17 PM
Yeah, we broke DreaminDemon. Oops.

Here: this is the source article (new window) they used.
 
2012-02-19 08:32:33 PM

Thrakkorzog: Site is farked.


I shot it down. It was a trespassin'.
 
2012-02-19 08:33:08 PM

cman: Bunnyhat: cman: namegoeshere: Riche: Do many animal rights groups go too far? OF COURSE!!! Now that we've killed off most of the predators, hunting is necessary to prevent an overpopulation disaster among many animals.

That said, the hunter firing on the drone was being MASSIVELY irresponsible. If the act wasn't illegal than it SHOULD be.

Did the hunter even know what he was shooting at, or who was operating the drone, or where it would crash land?

For all the hunter knew, the drone could have been operated by local or federal agents. When it crashed it might have landed on somebody's head or truck or possibly started a wildfire.

The NRA should loudly denounce the actions of this unknown idiot hunter if they want to protect their legitimacy, especially if it comes out the hunter knew who was operating the drone. "If you don't agree with a POV then shoot their stuff" is hardly the mark of responsible gun ownership.

Here is anotherLink (new window) on the story. They knew exactly what it was. The drone was not just to film the hunt - it was to stop it entirely (bird hunt - noisy drone. Birdies no fly there.). The hunters tried to stop it legally, and when that failed, they shot it. Point goes to them, I'd say.

Trespassing is still a crime in the United States.


You don't own the air above your land. So sorry.
The shooters knew what it was, they also knew that legally that drone had every right to be in the airspace. They knowingly and willingly destroyed private property by firing weapons into the air in the direction of a busy highway and group of people.

If someone flew a small helicopter over your fence to watch what you were doing in your own back yard, you wouldnt call that trespassing?


The drone flew in front of the pigeon just as the hunter fired. It was clearly an accident.
 
2012-02-19 08:33:26 PM
Phase II: arming the drone with Hellfire missiles.
 
2012-02-19 08:34:36 PM

cman: Bunnyhat: cman: Link posted above said that the owners of the land asked them not to fly the heli before they flew it. I think that indicates an intent to trespass.

Link also says the drone was flying over hwy 601 when it was shot down.


If a plane was flying over my house, I don't have the right to shoot it down regardless of how much I might ask them not too. Airspace is not private property.

Let me set up another scenario

Lets say your neighbor owns a tree on his property, but a big branch hangs on your side not touching the ground. If you cut that branch down to build an addition in its place (you are still on your property), should your neighbor be able to take you to court?


Another farker already said this example was not comparable, but if you live in a state that abides by the "Massachusetts rule" governing trees near property lines, your scenario goes like this: your neighbor has no cause to take you to court, as long as cutting that branch does not kill the tree. You own that branch from your property line. Now if that tree falls on your newly built addition, can you sue your neighbor? No. The tree becomes yours when it falls across the property line, call your insurer and have a nice day. (unless you notified your neighbor that the tree was dangerous, etc etc - exception to every rule...)

/csb
 
2012-02-19 08:34:37 PM

jjorsett: Phase II: arming the drone with Hellfire missiles.


Response: Arming the pigeons with lasers.
 
2012-02-19 08:34:38 PM

adeist69:
Aircraft are FAA licensed (and therefore protected) vehicles. Drones are not. A privately owned drone flying over private property without the owners' permission is fair game.


So, what you are saying is, it would be foolish to use one to bother people who shoot airborne moving targets for fun?

DRTFA, but I gleaned enough from the comments.

"Hey, quit shootin' at birds!"
"Okay, we'll switch to shootin' drones." *KWHAM*
 
2012-02-19 08:35:28 PM
Yep. Everyone in this video is a laughable douche.

/Now on to the car vs. bicycle thread!
 
2012-02-19 08:37:23 PM

marius2: I think hunters are absolutely silly (unless of course it's your only means of acquiring foods. I'm speaking more about the people who hunt as a hobby.) That being said, I still think this is hilarious!


Hunting is still a hell of a lot more humane than how most farm animals are slaughtered.
 
2012-02-19 08:38:52 PM
I really cannot have sympathy for people who set out to be pricks knowing the law supports it. Patent trolls, WBC, animal rights activists... whatever they are, I hope all their plans fail miserably.
 
2012-02-19 08:39:27 PM

Riche: Do many animal rights groups go too far? OF COURSE!!! Now that we've killed off most of the predators, hunting is necessary to prevent an overpopulation disaster among many animals.

That said, the hunter firing on the drone was being MASSIVELY irresponsible. If the act wasn't illegal than it SHOULD be.

Did the hunter even know what he was shooting at, or who was operating the drone, or where it would crash land?

For all the hunter knew, the drone could have been operated by local or federal agents. When it crashed it might have landed on somebody's head or truck or possibly started a wildfire.

The NRA should loudly denounce the actions of this unknown idiot hunter if they want to protect their legitimacy, especially if it comes out the hunter knew who was operating the drone. "If you don't agree with a POV then shoot their stuff" is hardly the mark of responsible gun ownership.


0/10. Plonk.
 
2012-02-19 08:39:58 PM
images.sodahead.com
 
2012-02-19 08:40:03 PM

Bunnyhat:
You don't own the air above your land. So sorry.


Hope you're not actually laying any money on that, because, um, you DO own the space above you land, up to the minimum threshold where the FAA takes over, so several thousand feet.

So... if it was a lease and the people flying the drone weren't welcome, sorry, you lose, good day, sir. If it was flying at 20k feet, yeah, sure, that's not cool, but if you can peg anything at 20000 feet with bird shot I think we should be worrying more about the fact that you appear to be magneto than that you messed up some douche's illegally-operated equipment.
 
2012-02-19 08:40:10 PM
interfering with a legal hunt is illegal, they were lucky just to have their toy shot out of the air.
back when hot air ballooning was popular, they thought it was funny to sink down over hunters and hit the gas to lift off, till one of the hunters took a shot at them. they didn't bother hunters after that...
i respect your right to believe as you want, till you try to interfere with my rights.
 
2012-02-19 08:41:08 PM

Valarius: Awesome. So now any further drones will be armed. Yeah. This'll end real good.


And thus a new sport was born.
 
2012-02-19 08:44:46 PM

FloydA: It's a pigeon hunt. Pigeons are goddamn winged rats. No matter how much you love animals, let people kill pigeons. They are disgusting.


Gray squirrels too. Go ahead and kill all the gray squirrels. Then when you're done, feel free to desecrate their corpses. I hate those little farks.


It's not ME raping a raccoon, it's me, as a panda, raping a raccoon.

/don't know why that made me think of that.
 
2012-02-19 08:52:50 PM

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: FloydA: It's a pigeon hunt. Pigeons are goddamn winged rats. No matter how much you love animals, let people kill pigeons. They are disgusting.


Gray squirrels too. Go ahead and kill all the gray squirrels. Then when you're done, feel free to desecrate their corpses. I hate those little farks.

It's not ME raping a raccoon, it's me, as a panda, raping a raccoon.

/don't know why that made me think of that.


You are a twisted individual.
I like that.
 
2012-02-19 08:55:44 PM

Lionel Mandrake: I just love a story in which everyone looks like an idiot.


Yep. Fail on both sides.
 
2012-02-19 08:56:03 PM
Link back up. Yeay.
 
2012-02-19 08:56:15 PM
SHARK may be on to something... saving pigeons by offering more enticing targets to hunters.
 
2012-02-19 08:56:29 PM
Interesting which laws will apply. Would like to see the follow-up if anything actually happens.
 
2012-02-19 08:58:39 PM
"Hindi said he will seek charges against those who shot down the drone."

Lemme know how that works out for you. The deputy who was present at the time of the shooting didn't seem to be very interested in any charges. HE knows which side HIS bread is buttered on. I'm gonna guess animal rights activists are about as popular as Obama near Ehrhardt, S.C
 
2012-02-19 08:59:02 PM
I just looked that thing up - about $1k for the kit. The amusing thing is that they use the standard 2.4Ghz band for control. I would bet that a few Linksys wireless access points with directional antennas could screw the control channel up badly. Not to mention what a modified microwave oven could do to it.

If the signal isn't encrypted you could take control and run it into the sheriff's car. That would be good for some laughs. If you own a plantation that covers nearly three square miles then you could surely afford to buy one of these things to tinker with. Maybe have a dog fight over the highway next year.
 
2012-02-19 08:59:10 PM
www.metalgearsolid.cz

I hate those things. They always see me.
 
2012-02-19 08:59:52 PM

2wolves: Interesting which laws will apply. Would like to see the follow-up if anything actually happens.


Well, the police "took a report." Which I'm sure they filed correctly. In the filing cabinet. You know, the circular one. In the mens room.

It's South Carolina. I'm pretty sure the police are not going to get all CSI trying to match the bullets with the correct hunters' guns.
 
2012-02-19 09:01:05 PM
Who knew Bryant Gumbel was a member of SHARK?
 
2012-02-19 09:04:39 PM

Bunnyhat: If a plane was flying over my house, I don't have the right to shoot it down regardless of how much I might ask them not too. Airspace is not private property.


It's probably a bit grayer than that.

If there's a plane over your house being operated in accordance with the Federal Aviation Regulations, which among other things, includes a minimum altitude when not in the process of taking off or landing, then yeah, you can't do anything about it.

Buzzing your private property below 500' in an unmanned drone against the stated intentions of the property owner for the express purpose of disrupting lawful activities on the property? That's not remotely the same thing. You don't own the airspace above your house, but that doesn't mean anyone can do anything they want as long as as they're one inch off the ground over it.
 
2012-02-19 09:05:53 PM

jehovahs witness protection: You are a twisted individual.


Its not ME being a twisted individual. It's me, as Ricky Gervais, being a twisted individual.
 
2012-02-19 09:06:31 PM
If anyone has a chance to eat dove, go for it. It's amazing.
/wrapped in bacon and grilled
 
2012-02-19 09:06:59 PM
These guys are nuts. Take a look at Ehrhardt, SC on Google maps. Just south of the town you'll find this plantation. And their private airport. And private campgrounds. No deputy sheriff in their right mind would mess with a huge taxpayer like that.
 
2012-02-19 09:07:01 PM

Jim_Callahan: Bunnyhat:
You don't own the air above your land. So sorry.

Hope you're not actually laying any money on that, because, um, you DO own the space above you land, up to the minimum threshold where the FAA takes over, so several thousand feet.

So... if it was a lease and the people flying the drone weren't welcome, sorry, you lose, good day, sir. If it was flying at 20k feet, yeah, sure, that's not cool, but if you can peg anything at 20000 feet with bird shot I think we should be worrying more about the fact that you appear to be magneto than that you messed up some douche's illegally-operated equipment.


It's 500 feet, not twenty thousand feet. RC Drones can fly way past 500 feet. All of which ignores the fact that THE DRONE WAS OVER A HIGHWAY WHEN SHOT DOWN. NOT PRIVATE PROPERTY.
 
2012-02-19 09:07:55 PM
www.mamapop.com

The hunter sounded like a real Dick.
 
2012-02-19 09:10:41 PM
Expect drones over your house at some point soon...

Link (new window)
 
2012-02-19 09:12:21 PM
Anybody remember "Buckaroo Banzai: Across the 8th Dimension" ??
 
2012-02-19 09:12:38 PM
You own as much airspace over your land as you are using. Aircraft have to maintain at least 500 feet distance from people and structures except for takeoff and landing. In the case of property used for shooting birds, you're using the airspace up to an altitude that doesn't interfere with birds. Aircraft may be trespassing if their presence is so bad that some of your property value has been "taken" and you're not getting compensated for the right of way.
 
2012-02-19 09:15:32 PM

basemetal: I think what they (the animal rights group) were doing would be considered illegal with the FAA. Wasn't it out in LA that they shut down the realtors from using drones like that over people's property? Link (new window)


I think you can't sell, video or images, without special "permission." License or permit, something like that.

Maybe that is what you remember?
 
2012-02-19 09:16:26 PM
Look, I don't know or care if you're a tree-hugger or granola-eater or seal-clubber or whale-raper or what... I think we can all put aside our differences and agree that that was pretty damned funny.
 
2012-02-19 09:17:53 PM
*snert* That's farking funny.
 
2012-02-19 09:20:33 PM

Bunnyhat: It's 500 feet, not twenty thousand feet. RC Drones can fly way past 500 feet. All of which ignores the fact that THE DRONE WAS OVER A HIGHWAY WHEN SHOT DOWN. NOT PRIVATE PROPERTY.


Was it actually shot down though? All I heard were shots after it took off. That's not a great big deal when there's already a pigeon shoot going on. Could be cooincidence. As for the broken propellor, I heard the drone tip over when it landed and the sound of one of the propellors hitting the ground. Was the damage caused by the device tipping over when it landed? It seemed to be fully under control the whole time it was in the air. What other than the sound of the shots and the broken propellor is the evidence that it was actually "shot down"? Did they video someone with a gun pointed at it?
 
2012-02-19 09:21:12 PM
Holy crap. What the hell did I just get linked to? I didn't even read the article. I just closed the page as fast as possible. There used to be a time when I could hover over a link on Fark and see the domain. Now it's "fark.gotoblahblahblah" and the domain is cut off in my browser. Not cool man... not cool.
 
2012-02-19 09:22:12 PM
i have no quarrel over hunters shooting up random flying things . . . .

But, the microkopter is SOOO fricking cool, you just press in a GPS coordinate and it zooms there, you take your video of whatever, hit the return button and it comes right back to you.

Microkopter flies like some sort of future robot, costs about $3,000, so yeah.

Is this the future? Spy drones flying around 24/7? could be.
 
2012-02-19 09:25:12 PM
Looking at the video, I'd be hard pressed based on that video to conclude there is no reasonable doubt it was not hit while over the highway, or that it was hit without shots being fired over the highway.

Anyone here ever seen 12 Angry Men?

Maybe with a map and some ballistics tesitmony.

Seems like a court case would come to they said/they said

I'm also not sure the airspace 10 - 50 feet above my trees is yours to fly your rc vehicles in.
 
2012-02-19 09:25:25 PM

namegoeshere: Riche: Do many animal rights groups go too far? OF COURSE!!! Now that we've killed off most of the predators, hunting is necessary to prevent an overpopulation disaster among many animals.

That said, the hunter firing on the drone was being MASSIVELY irresponsible. If the act wasn't illegal than it SHOULD be.

Did the hunter even know what he was shooting at, or who was operating the drone, or where it would crash land?

For all the hunter knew, the drone could have been operated by local or federal agents. When it crashed it might have landed on somebody's head or truck or possibly started a wildfire.

The NRA should loudly denounce the actions of this unknown idiot hunter if they want to protect their legitimacy, especially if it comes out the hunter knew who was operating the drone. "If you don't agree with a POV then shoot their stuff" is hardly the mark of responsible gun ownership.

Here is anotherLink (new window) on the story. They knew exactly what it was. The drone was not just to film the hunt - it was to stop it entirely (bird hunt - noisy drone. Birdies no fly there.). The hunters tried to stop it legally, and when that failed, they shot it. Point goes to them, I'd say.



Here in Ohio, deliberately causing any kind of disturbance to scare off animals during a legal hunt is illegal. Asshat animal rights nuts banging pots and pans and shiat like that to scare off deer some years ago got legally biatch-slapped but YMMV
 
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