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2012-02-19 09:46:33 PM  

Weaver95: Law enforcement and elected officials have argued for years that better-armed, high-powered police departments are needed to fight the war on drugs

yeah...because pot smoking hippies are really SOOOOO VIOLENT than you need a frickin tank to take 'em down...

The only thing all that mil-spec gear gets used for is to pump up the egos of small town hicks and encourage second tier cities to kick the snot out of OWS protesters. you give some idiot a tank and suddenly every problem in town can ONLY be solved by an artillery barrage.


Yep, when all you have is a hammer, suddenly every problem looks like a nail.

Just like using a SWAT team to serve a notice. "We wanted you to appear in court. Sorry we shot your dog and gave your children PTSD. Or was that the other way around? Our bad."
 
2012-02-19 09:49:20 PM  
"When you see some Palestinian terrorist causing problems in Jerusalem, what do you usually see next? You see a tank with a cannon show up outside the guy's house, and the tank blows the house to smithereens. When a Lenco Bearcat shows up at a crime scene where a suicidal killer is holding hostages, it doesn't show up with a cannon. It shows up with a negotiator. Our trucks save lives. They save police lives. And I can't help but think that the people who are trying to stop this just don't think police officers' lives are worth saving."

What an insufferable dicknose.
 
2012-02-19 09:51:18 PM  

pedrop357: Mock26: Not your money, Mastrogiovanni. The money for the purchase is coming from a federal grant.

I wonder where the federal government got the money...


Right wingnuts are ALL ABOUT fiscal responsibility unless that fiscal responsibility means the police force really doesn't need an armored vehicle in a town of 24,000. For some perspective, I live in a high-crime city of 50,000 and such a vehicle would be a complete waste of money here.
 
2012-02-19 09:52:44 PM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: GGracie: I have always wondered what happens to people after these news stories air. Will the douchey mayor who wanted this bullsh*t be embarrassed at all? Will he be ashamed when he makes eye contact at the local market with the citizens he planned to terrorize with this piece of mechanized martial law madness?

No and no. Sociopaths, especially ones drunk on power, don't feel remorse or shame for what they have done to others.


I have come in contact with this, unfortunately
 
2012-02-19 09:55:58 PM  

JohnCarter: What bearcats may look like

[oldcarandtruckpictures.com image 600x380]

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 400x286]


i291.photobucket.com
 
2012-02-19 09:57:28 PM  

CruiserTwelve: UsikFark: This is not helping the image of cops as big violent kids.

Actually that's exactly what it's doing.


This is the kind of thing the IT department would "need." They're often kids with toys, themselves. The IT department doesn't have a need or propensity for violent force. Police *can* be calm, mature professionals, but Little Kids with guns and armored toys are no good.
 
2012-02-19 09:59:14 PM  
So why can't negotiators ride in regular cars?
 
2012-02-19 10:01:30 PM  

pedrop357: Mock26: Not your money, Mastrogiovanni. The money for the purchase is coming from a federal grant.

I wonder where the federal government got the money...


Irrelevant. The money is not coming out of the coffers of Keene, so the city does not have to cut $290,000 from some other part of their budget.
 
2012-02-19 10:01:37 PM  
And there's a new Twisted Metal game out.

/Coincidence?
//I think not.
 
2012-02-19 10:02:00 PM  
Even with hyperlinked sources, I'm not positive this isn't satire.
 
2012-02-19 10:02:31 PM  

DrBenway: Follow the money:

Jim Massery, the government sales manager for Pittsfield, Mass.-based Lenco, dismissed critics who wonder why a town with almost no crime would need a $300,000 armored truck. "I don't think there's any place in the country where you can say, 'That isn't a likely terrorist target,'" Massery said. "How would you know? We don' t know what the terrorists are thinking. No one predicted that terrorists would take over airplanes on Sept. 11. If a group of terrorists decide to shoot up a shopping mall in a town like Keene, wouldn't you rather be prepared?" (FTA)

This concludes our presentation of Assery with Massery. I hope you enjoyed our program.


blogs.riverfronttimes.com

That's a GOOD question, little lady! I COULD tell you why, but only TWO people in this room would understand it... and that includes the teacher!

... next question!!
 
2012-02-19 10:03:05 PM  
This country is farked. As soon as I finish my masters I'm out. At least in Latin America the dictators don't lie to your face about having a "so-called democracy."
 
2012-02-19 10:05:35 PM  

Bawdy George: FTFA: "When you see some Palestinian terrorist causing problems in Jerusalem, what do you usually see next? You see a tank with a cannon show up outside the guy's house, and the tank blows the house to smithereens. When a Lenco Bearcat shows up at a crime scene where a suicidal killer is holding hostages, it doesn't show up with a cannon. It shows up with a negotiator."

That's some Palin-level reasoning right there.


img1.priceline.com

Shatner is far cheaper, and more effective.
 
2012-02-19 10:06:23 PM  

Mock26: "It promotes violence," Mastrogiovanni said. "We should promote more human interaction rather than militarize. I refuse to use money for something this unnecessary when so many people in our community are in need."

Not your money, Mastrogiovanni. The money for the purchase is coming from a federal grant.


Because Federal Grants come from magical places! What are these taxes you speak of? Federal debt? Whaaaaaaaaaaat? We dont have any debt as a country.

/Ounces make pounds kiddo
 
2012-02-19 10:08:51 PM  
timstvshowcase.com

Why not go for a bulletproof, missile-firing machine-gunning supersonic supercopter?

/bonus- "There is a helicopter on my head. Your argument is invalid."
 
2012-02-19 10:10:27 PM  

namegoeshere: "We have Bearcats in 90 percent of the 100 or so largest cities in America," Massery said.


...and Keene is not one of the 100 largest cities, so...
 
2012-02-19 10:15:21 PM  
Too many idiots.
Just too many.
 
2012-02-19 10:16:37 PM  

Oznog: [timstvshowcase.com image 406x306]

Why not go for a bulletproof, missile-firing machine-gunning supersonic supercopter?

/bonus- "There is a helicopter on my head. Your argument is invalid."


The helo is giving old one-eye a haircut with the tail rotor.
 
2012-02-19 10:18:04 PM  

DrBenway: Follow the money:

Jim Massery, the government sales manager for Pittsfield, Mass.-based Lenco, dismissed critics who wonder why a town with almost no crime would need a $300,000 armored truck. "I don't think there's any place in the country where you can say, 'That isn't a likely terrorist target,'" Massery said. "How would you know? We don' t know what the terrorists are thinking. No one predicted that terrorists would take over airplanes on Sept. 11. If a group of terrorists decide to shoot up a shopping mall in a town like Keene, wouldn't you rather be prepared?" (FTA)

This concludes our presentation of Assery with Massery. I hope you enjoyed our program.


I'm just wondering what use this is going to be if terrorists WERE shooting up a mall. Do you really think you're going to be waiting for the Bearcat while they shoot the place up? And what, drive it through the mall shooting where they'll still be standing out in the open and fire on the vehicle but you'll "win" because it's armored against light weapons?

I realized Knight Rider was damn funny once I got past my teens, realizing that there's so very few problems in the real world which COULD be solved by owning a super-car, which could bust through a wall into an unresolvable hostage situation and resolve it. Too bad these guys never grew up and realized that.
 
2012-02-19 10:18:27 PM  

LavenderWolf: "When you see some Palestinian terrorist causing problems in Jerusalem, what do you usually see next? You see a tank with a cannon show up outside the guy's house, and the tank blows the house to smithereens. When a Lenco Bearcat shows up at a crime scene where a suicidal killer is holding hostages, it doesn't show up with a cannon. It shows up with a negotiator. Our trucks save lives. They save police lives. And I can't help but think that the people who are trying to stop this just don't think police officers' lives are worth saving."

What an insufferable dicknose.


i1086.photobucket.com
 
2012-02-19 10:18:43 PM  
$286,000 penis extension
 
2012-02-19 10:19:35 PM  
Keene is one of those shiatholes where cops try to rack up bogus charges on people not from the area. Boss Hogg without the southern charm. So fark'em.

The rest of the stupidity should be obvious to anyone. There's only one reason a town like Keene would need a vehicle like this: zombies. Obviously, Keene is ground zero for a zombie infestation. Nuke it from orbit and all that.
 
2012-02-19 10:31:19 PM  
I lived in Keene for three years so I'm getting a kick out of these replies. In any case, the general consensus of my friends from the area is that this is completely ridiculous and idiotic.
 
2012-02-19 10:32:30 PM  
<i> "I don't think there's any place in the country where you can say, 'That isn't a likely terrorist target,'" Massery said. </i>

So I guess that makes my house a terrorist target. So maybe I can get the government to buy one of these for me. If not, I'll just settle for a new car. The idea that the Federal government is providing the money so let's buy something totally unnecessary is the kind of thinking that helped create some of this current budget mess. The war on terrorism is just another excuse to maintain the military-industrial complex.
 
2012-02-19 10:32:36 PM  

Oznog: DrBenway: Follow the money:

Jim Massery, the government sales manager for Pittsfield, Mass.-based Lenco, dismissed critics who wonder why a town with almost no crime would need a $300,000 armored truck. "I don't think there's any place in the country where you can say, 'That isn't a likely terrorist target,'" Massery said. "How would you know? We don' t know what the terrorists are thinking. No one predicted that terrorists would take over airplanes on Sept. 11. If a group of terrorists decide to shoot up a shopping mall in a town like Keene, wouldn't you rather be prepared?" (FTA)

This concludes our presentation of Assery with Massery. I hope you enjoyed our program.

I'm just wondering what use this is going to be if terrorists WERE shooting up a mall. Do you really think you're going to be waiting for the Bearcat while they shoot the place up? And what, drive it through the mall shooting where they'll still be standing out in the open and fire on the vehicle but you'll "win" because it's armored against light weapons?

I realized Knight Rider was damn funny once I got past my teens, realizing that there's so very few problems in the real world which COULD be solved by owning a super-car, which could bust through a wall into an unresolvable hostage situation and resolve it. Too bad these guys never grew up and realized that.


Likewise, I'm pretty sure it would have been worthless at both Columbine and Virginia Tech, two examples that were cited.
 
2012-02-19 10:33:05 PM  

germ78: eggrolls: Keene, NH.

[www.visitingnewengland.com image 320x240][www.visitingnewengland.com image 320x240]

You will never find a more wretch hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.

Are you sure? That's one angry looking gazebo.


I love that word.
Gazebo.
GazeeebO
Gaaazebo!
GaaaaaZeeeeBO!
 
2012-02-19 10:33:05 PM  

Ed Finnerty: They're really going to freak out about the battleship.


In a town without access to an ocean? Nah.
 
2012-02-19 10:37:18 PM  

Mock26: "It promotes violence," Mastrogiovanni said. "We should promote more human interaction rather than militarize. I refuse to use money for something this unnecessary when so many people in our community are in need."

Not your money, Mastrogiovanni. The money for the purchase is coming from a federal grant.


Hey, asshole, that's MY money, and I live in Oregon!
 
2012-02-19 10:42:08 PM  

runwiz: <i> "I don't think there's any place in the country where you can say, 'That isn't a likely terrorist target,'" Massery said. </i>

So I guess that makes my house a terrorist target. So maybe I can get the government to buy one of these for me. If not, I'll just settle for a new car. The idea that the Federal government is providing the money so let's buy something totally unnecessary is the kind of thinking that helped create some of this current budget mess. The war on terrorism is just another excuse to maintain the military-industrial complex.


If we're being honest here, yes, we can point at the entire country on a map, wave our hand around a little and say "this, here, this general area is not a likely terrorist target".

9/11 was shocking because it was bloody unlikely, and it's even less likely now.
 
2012-02-19 10:42:19 PM  

DrBenway: Oznog: DrBenway: Follow the money:

Jim Massery, the government sales manager for Pittsfield, Mass.-based Lenco, dismissed critics who wonder why a town with almost no crime would need a $300,000 armored truck. "I don't think there's any place in the country where you can say, 'That isn't a likely terrorist target,'" Massery said. "How would you know? We don' t know what the terrorists are thinking. No one predicted that terrorists would take over airplanes on Sept. 11. If a group of terrorists decide to shoot up a shopping mall in a town like Keene, wouldn't you rather be prepared?" (FTA)

This concludes our presentation of Assery with Massery. I hope you enjoyed our program.

I'm just wondering what use this is going to be if terrorists WERE shooting up a mall. Do you really think you're going to be waiting for the Bearcat while they shoot the place up? And what, drive it through the mall shooting where they'll still be standing out in the open and fire on the vehicle but you'll "win" because it's armored against light weapons?

I realized Knight Rider was damn funny once I got past my teens, realizing that there's so very few problems in the real world which COULD be solved by owning a super-car, which could bust through a wall into an unresolvable hostage situation and resolve it. Too bad these guys never grew up and realized that.

Likewise, I'm pretty sure it would have been worthless at both Columbine and Virginia Tech, two examples that were cited.


They cited examples where the perpetrators were inside buildings and killed themselves before any police even showed up? Jesus titty-farking Christ.
 
2012-02-19 10:42:46 PM  
FTFA: "That video is totally irrelevant," Massery said. "We used some Hollywood effects and slick marketing to promote our product. So what?"

At that moment, you lost whatever support you might have had there. "Sure, the sales pitch involved a flashy video, produced at our expense with our marketing funds, in which the vehicle in question is used to smash down a door and inject tear gas into a house - what relevance would that have when selling it to a town with just 22,000 people, 45 cops, and absolutely no reason to militarize themselves? It's ludicrous to even consider that the cop-porn video set to AC/DC might have influenced the decision to buy the vehicle in any way!"

You're a disingenuous dick, irritated that you're likely going to lose a sale because somebody actually paid attention to what you were doing.
 
2012-02-19 10:45:14 PM  

crabsno termites: Mock26: "It promotes violence," Mastrogiovanni said. "We should promote more human interaction rather than militarize. I refuse to use money for something this unnecessary when so many people in our community are in need."

Not your money, Mastrogiovanni. The money for the purchase is coming from a federal grant.

Hey, asshole, that's MY money, and I live in Oregon!


Hey dipshiatt, it is NOT your money. It belongs to the federal government!
 
2012-02-19 10:46:29 PM  

Mock26: pedrop357: Mock26: Not your money, Mastrogiovanni. The money for the purchase is coming from a federal grant.

I wonder where the federal government got the money...

Irrelevant. The money is not coming out of the coffers of Keene, so the city does not have to cut $290,000 from some other part of their budget.


In the quote you provided he never said it was a bad use of Town dollars, he said it was a bad use of dollars. And even if there is no direct cost to the town to purchase the APC, there will be ongoing costs to equip and maintain it.
 
2012-02-19 10:51:07 PM  

Mock26: crabsno termites: Mock26: "It promotes violence," Mastrogiovanni said. "We should promote more human interaction rather than militarize. I refuse to use money for something this unnecessary when so many people in our community are in need."

Not your money, Mastrogiovanni. The money for the purchase is coming from a federal grant.

Hey, asshole, that's MY money, and I live in Oregon!

Hey dipshiatt, it is NOT your money. It belongs to the federal government!


/(/Looks at ground) "Sorry sir, moving along like a good sheeple" (pauses to lick boot)
 
2012-02-19 10:55:29 PM  

Mock26: pedrop357: Mock26: Not your money, Mastrogiovanni. The money for the purchase is coming from a federal grant.

I wonder where the federal government got the money...

Irrelevant. The money is not coming out of the coffers of Keene, so the city does not have to cut $290,000 from some other part of their budget.


They don't need a goddamned military vehicle in the first place. How about using that money to help the sick, fix some roads, aid their local economy? The police don't need a farking tank, all it's for is dick-swinging and cowing the masses.
 
2012-02-19 11:00:56 PM  
My God, look at the quivering, spineless chickenshiats we've become: terrorists going after Keene, New Hampshire? I mean really, the latest attempted terror attacks have done nothing but make Wile E Coyote look like Werner Von Braun. And what the fark aren't we afraid of? Black people, Mexicans, drugs, young people, different ideas, all things people fear. I weep for this nation, once proud and courageous, now willing to piss on their rights to fight another phantom fear.
 
2012-02-19 11:02:38 PM  

ansius: Weaver95: Law enforcement and elected officials have argued for years that better-armed, high-powered police departments are needed to fight the war on drugs

yeah...because pot smoking hippies are really SOOOOO VIOLENT than you need a frickin tank to take 'em down...

The only thing all that mil-spec gear gets used for is to pump up the egos of small town hicks and encourage second tier cities to kick the snot out of OWS protesters. you give some idiot a tank and suddenly every problem in town can ONLY be solved by an artillery barrage.

Yep, when all you have is a hammer, suddenly every problem looks like a nail.

Just like using a SWAT team to serve a notice. "We wanted you to appear in court. Sorry we shot your dog and gave your children PTSD. Or was that the other way around? Our bad."


I wouldn't be surprised to hear that these things had been used to bust in on an empty grow house at some point, like a friggen tank in a war, after which the SWAT jumps out and stars firing on anything in sight, leaving the landlord on the hook for the now missing wall.

Cops just want to be Kool-Aid man!
 
2012-02-19 11:13:27 PM  
Also, I guarantee there are infrastructure projects backlogged in Keene that would be a better use of $290K, whether highway projects, flood prevention, utilities upgrades, whatever. Dumping money on cop toys and throwing non-violent offenders in prison is one reason why our infrastructure is crumbling.

Keizer_Ghidorah: Mock26: pedrop357: Mock26: Not your money, Mastrogiovanni. The money for the purchase is coming from a federal grant.

I wonder where the federal government got the money...

Irrelevant. The money is not coming out of the coffers of Keene, so the city does not have to cut $290,000 from some other part of their budget.

They don't need a goddamned military vehicle in the first place. How about using that money to help the sick, fix some roads, aid their local economy? The police don't need a farking tank, all it's for is dick-swinging and cowing the masses.


Mock26 is just trollin' everyone, assuming he's not Massage or on the police force in question.
 
2012-02-19 11:15:36 PM  

jayhawk88: 23,409 people in Keene according to the 2010 census. Lol. This is less than the population of Emporia, Kansas, for reference.


Great, so once this town gets one, every other town in the land with 20,000 people or more will say they need one.

/We're farked
 
2012-02-19 11:17:45 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: DrBenway: Oznog: DrBenway: Follow the money:

Jim Massery, the government sales manager for Pittsfield, Mass.-based Lenco, dismissed critics who wonder why a town with almost no crime would need a $300,000 armored truck. "I don't think there's any place in the country where you can say, 'That isn't a likely terrorist target,'" Massery said. "How would you know? We don' t know what the terrorists are thinking. No one predicted that terrorists would take over airplanes on Sept. 11. If a group of terrorists decide to shoot up a shopping mall in a town like Keene, wouldn't you rather be prepared?" (FTA)

This concludes our presentation of Assery with Massery. I hope you enjoyed our program.

I'm just wondering what use this is going to be if terrorists WERE shooting up a mall. Do you really think you're going to be waiting for the Bearcat while they shoot the place up? And what, drive it through the mall shooting where they'll still be standing out in the open and fire on the vehicle but you'll "win" because it's armored against light weapons?

I realized Knight Rider was damn funny once I got past my teens, realizing that there's so very few problems in the real world which COULD be solved by owning a super-car, which could bust through a wall into an unresolvable hostage situation and resolve it. Too bad these guys never grew up and realized that.

Likewise, I'm pretty sure it would have been worthless at both Columbine and Virginia Tech, two examples that were cited.

They cited examples where the perpetrators were inside buildings and killed themselves before any police even showed up? Jesus titty-farking Christ.


Believe it or don't:

Many towns have purchased vehicles like the Bearcat, or obtained tanks or armored vehicles from the Pentagon, saying they need to be prepared for terror attacks or school shootings. When the University of North Carolina-Charlotte recently formed a SWAT team, for example, a police spokesman told the campus newspaper that the paramilitary gear and tactics were necessary to prevent another Columbine or Virginia Tech.

If I facepalm any harder, I'll give myself a concussion.
 
2012-02-19 11:18:03 PM  

foxyshadis: Also, I guarantee there are infrastructure projects backlogged in Keene that would be a better use of $290K, whether highway projects, flood prevention, utilities upgrades, whatever. Dumping money on cop toys and throwing non-violent offenders in prison is one reason why our infrastructure is crumbling.

Keizer_Ghidorah: Mock26: pedrop357: Mock26: Not your money, Mastrogiovanni. The money for the purchase is coming from a federal grant.

I wonder where the federal government got the money...

Irrelevant. The money is not coming out of the coffers of Keene, so the city does not have to cut $290,000 from some other part of their budget.

They don't need a goddamned military vehicle in the first place. How about using that money to help the sick, fix some roads, aid their local economy? The police don't need a farking tank, all it's for is dick-swinging and cowing the masses.

Mock26 is just trollin' everyone, assuming he's not Massage or on the police force in question.


This.
 
2012-02-19 11:21:36 PM  

ZAZ: "And I can't help but think that the people who are trying to stop this just don't think police officers' lives are worth saving."

Ooh, look, a false dichotomy. Fine, I'll bite. Better every Keene police officer die in a shootout than they turn into a military force.

If you need help, call the state police, a regional SWAT team, or the National Guard.


RIP, ZAZ... and good riddance, you asshole.

bristle.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-02-19 11:30:26 PM  

Pfft that's nothing....

BEHOLD - THE PEACEMAKER
Link (new window)
 
2012-02-19 11:30:46 PM  

cmb53208: My God, look at the quivering, spineless chickenshiats we've become: terrorists going after Keene, New Hampshire? I mean really, the latest attempted terror attacks have done nothing but make Wile E Coyote look like Werner Von Braun. And what the fark aren't we afraid of? Black people, Mexicans, drugs, young people, different ideas, all things people fear. I weep for this nation, once proud and courageous, now willing to piss on their rights to fight another phantom fear.


This. A hundred times this.
 
2012-02-19 11:33:10 PM  

DrBenway: Keizer_Ghidorah: DrBenway: Oznog: DrBenway: Follow the money:

Jim Massery, the government sales manager for Pittsfield, Mass.-based Lenco, dismissed critics who wonder why a town with almost no crime would need a $300,000 armored truck. "I don't think there's any place in the country where you can say, 'That isn't a likely terrorist target,'" Massery said. "How would you know? We don' t know what the terrorists are thinking. No one predicted that terrorists would take over airplanes on Sept. 11. If a group of terrorists decide to shoot up a shopping mall in a town like Keene, wouldn't you rather be prepared?" (FTA)

This concludes our presentation of Assery with Massery. I hope you enjoyed our program.

I'm just wondering what use this is going to be if terrorists WERE shooting up a mall. Do you really think you're going to be waiting for the Bearcat while they shoot the place up? And what, drive it through the mall shooting where they'll still be standing out in the open and fire on the vehicle but you'll "win" because it's armored against light weapons?

I realized Knight Rider was damn funny once I got past my teens, realizing that there's so very few problems in the real world which COULD be solved by owning a super-car, which could bust through a wall into an unresolvable hostage situation and resolve it. Too bad these guys never grew up and realized that.

Likewise, I'm pretty sure it would have been worthless at both Columbine and Virginia Tech, two examples that were cited.

They cited examples where the perpetrators were inside buildings and killed themselves before any police even showed up? Jesus titty-farking Christ.

Believe it or don't:

Many towns have purchased vehicles like the Bearcat, or obtained tanks or armored vehicles from the Pentagon, saying they need to be prepared for terror attacks or school shootings. When the University of North Carolina-Charlotte recently formed a SWAT team, for example, a police spokesman told the campus newspaper ...


Not just that the shooting occurred before police showed up, but that there's little conceivable purpose FOR an armored vehicle limited to roads and flat areas. I mean, it's not like you're gonna go to Columbine and drive it THROUGH the school. At VT, the guy was outside, but it's just unlikely you're gonna do much driving around him that you couldn't do on foot.

I suppose, if he stood there with his gun making it obvious he was the shooter, and you can the second guy in the popup turret, you could try to run him down WHILE shooting him, but it's wholly unnecessary. He was walking around on foot. Just shoot him with a handgun.
 
2012-02-19 11:35:52 PM  
Watching that ridiculous promo video for the vehicle, I could easily see it being manned by the police from Idiocracy, complete with heavy-metal themed uniforms and Nazi helmets.

THUNDAHH!!
 
2012-02-19 11:39:57 PM  
Should have asked for a Herkimer battle jitney.
 
2012-02-19 11:40:03 PM  
Noticed one thing about this APC - it's vulnerable in a way that I don't think LENCO considered, a way that turns their mobile cover into an armored Alamo for whoever is suddenly trapped out in the open unable to leave the thing.

It can be flipped it on it's side with an earth-mover or heavy duty forklift. Or put another way:

KILLDOZER> Bearcat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24n77GgRtrw
 
2012-02-19 11:42:13 PM  

Thanks for the Meme-ries: JohnCarter: What bearcats may look like

[oldcarandtruckpictures.com image 600x380]

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 400x286]

[i291.photobucket.com image 500x330]


When I saw the car, I thought the same exact thing (I thought the model I had when eight was cool). But I doubt that many here would be interested in the plane's contribution in WWII though... Although I would say this is a close to the first instance where I thought that engineers had a direct impact in winning that war.

Have you noticed an Engineer is always the tip of the spear for results? I may only be a history buff, but somethings if you see multiple inputs about the value of something, often it will tend to make you consider their actual value.
 
2012-02-19 11:44:45 PM  

Oznog: I suppose, if he stood there with his gun making it obvious he was the shooter, and you can the second guy in the popup turret, you could try to run him down WHILE shooting him, but it's wholly unnecessary. He was walking around on foot. Just shoot him with a handgun.


I can tell you don't have any real-life experience in law enforcement. This vehicle isn't meant to be used that way. The way it works is that the SWAT commander, standing in the turret, will be driven closer so that he can hit the suspect with his sword.
 
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