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(Daily Kos)   Rick Santorum wants a federal commissar to ensure enough conservative professors are hired by universities. That seems pretty reasonable   (dailykos.com) divider line 411
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2012-02-19 05:10:24 PM
As a point of reference...

What a conservative professor might look like:

www.movieactors.com


What a liberal professor might look like:

www.thefilmdb.co.uk
 
2012-02-19 05:11:35 PM

CougarJeff: IronTom: they are not directly influencing the children of America, controlling what they say, write, learn, and do. That argument is totally off-base.

You mean like parents do? We should have an ideological purity test before people can become parents.


No, we just need to make sure children are taught to inform on their parents' questionable views, so the nonconformist parents can be rounded up and the children moved to appropriate foster homes.
 
2012-02-19 05:12:41 PM

Nem Wan: CougarJeff: IronTom: they are not directly influencing the children of America, controlling what they say, write, learn, and do. That argument is totally off-base.

You mean like parents do? We should have an ideological purity test before people can become parents.

No, we just need to make sure children are taught to inform on their parents' questionable views, so the nonconformist parents can be rounded up and the children moved to appropriate foster freedom homes.


FTFY
 
2012-02-19 05:19:32 PM

Doc Lee: Why would you want college professors to teach the failed ideology known as conservatism?


It's because Santorum, and other Republicans, see their party dying a painful death in the next few decades. The only way to stave that off is to stop abortions and contraception, and then start stacking the schools with conservative teachers and professors. The only goddamn way they'll be relevent in the future is to start breeding and teaching conservatives NOW. Otherwise they'll wind up irrevelent, or dead from the aftermath of what they push on the populace. They know it, and we do too.
 
2012-02-19 05:23:43 PM

culebra: ultraholland: culebra: Thank Ahura Mazda he isn't even going to win his party's nomination.

I really wish he would. Many lulz would be had.

True enough it would be a slaughter. These religious types tend to get all martyr-y
in those situations, however, so it might be better if he just gets quietly smothered by Romney's millions.

But no-you're right. That shiat would be hilarious and completely worth it.


Part of me wants him to get the nomination just so the far right can watch as their crazy ideas are squashed.
But, I remember 2004 and GWB was re-elected.
All it would take is a slight dip in the econmy and/or another terrorists attack and I'm afraid there would be just enough idiots out there to vote for him and make him our next president.

I doubt that would happen, but I do not think the punchline would be worth the joke
 
2012-02-19 05:24:41 PM
small government
 
2012-02-19 05:25:54 PM

Weaver95: bobbette: I find myself concerned that someone espousing far-right religious totalitarianism is actually the frontrunner for the Republican nomination at present. I'm not even exaggerating, Rick Santorum is literally running on that now. This is bad.

allow me to nit pick - I have no problem with a dominioninst theocrat openly running for office. that's the sort of thing that can and should happen in a democracy.

what's scary is that people are VOTING FOR HIM and giving him money. that's the sort of pants on head stupidity that I cannot fathom. Santorum has a right to run on a platform of bed wetting fear mongering vile spewing hatred. But in a society of sane and rational people he'd fail to get elected to dog catcher, let alone get a shot at the GOP nomination for President. that's the bit I don't understand...how someone could look at Santorum's views, hear his words, read what he's written...and somehow think that it's a great idea to put this man in office.


What I have been saying all along about $arah Palin. Problem is not that she is a complete and utter moron not qualified to even be a secretary at a real estate office. Problem that this magnificently illustrates is that too large of a percentage of the voting population just do not have the intelligence that they should be allowed anywhere near a voting booth.

Stupid people vote for stupid people who have stupid ideas. Who'd thunk that? So when can we end this atrocious idea of letting every moron vote? You have to pass an exam to drive, why not one to vote? We are getting the government we deserve by allowing the low IQ retards a voice when they really should have none.
 
2012-02-19 05:28:42 PM

Marcus Aurelius: So, he wants to shut down the public education system and destroy higher education as well.


No, he doesn't. He just wants to make a separate but equal "conservative public education system" and "conservative higher education" as well.

/But as such, Politifact just awarded you the Lie of the Year for 2012.
 
2012-02-19 05:29:17 PM

IronTom: LectertheChef: IronTom: There should be a certain large percentage of teachers at each school that actually loves America.

10/10, That's some spiffy trolling you did there.

more like dipping your hand in the water and having piranhas bite it.


If you knew that there were piranha in the water, you'd only dip your hand in expecting to get bites.

Therefore, troll.
Therefore, plonk.

I don't mind having discussions with rightwingers, in fact I sometimes enjoy it. But you just outed yourself as a troll, so you get no attention from me. I'd encourage others to follow suit. The guy just admitted to trolling.
 
2012-02-19 05:29:23 PM

ssa5: So when can we end this atrocious idea of letting every moron vote?


When we end the democracy.

You know how free speech means allowing speech you don't like? Democracy means allowing votes you don't like.

Deal with it.
 
2012-02-19 05:30:00 PM

NFA: Good lord, he actually says that in the video below. He's going to create a group that certifies college professors as conservative...

He starts this madness at the 26:30

Link (craziness)


Then he goes on about giving government control of the federal reserve.


You watched 26:30 of that video to FIND that? God bless you, man.
 
2012-02-19 05:32:02 PM

theorellior: Keep saying things like this, Rick. Keep putting the unvarnished truth out there. Keep taking-no-prisoners when it comes to conservative ideological purity. Let the people of the United States you won't stand for any of this namby-pamby RINO crap. Show 'em what a Real Conservative believes.


..and see Obama get re-elected in a landslide.
 
2012-02-19 05:33:13 PM
'Commissar'... sure sounds alot like those 'czars' that he keeps harping against.
 
2012-02-19 05:34:11 PM
i678.photobucket.com

Soviet Comedy Robot Says: "In Santorum America, the ass farks you."
 
2012-02-19 05:35:18 PM

IronTom: I'm sure most teachers do love America, conservative or not. The ultra-leftist ones sort of seem to like other things more. Have no citations.


Conservatives hate America and hate Americans. Not a day goes by that the conservatives don't wish and pray for an American city to be nuked. It's a major part of their policy platform. Not a day goes by where conservatives don't wish that all centrists (or what you call "ultra-leftists" in your infinite ignorance) in the US were rounded up and executed. Not a day goes by where conservatives don't wish that centrists were stripped of their voting rights.

Conservatives are vile, disgusting, anti-Americans.
 
2012-02-19 05:37:26 PM

the opposite of charity is justice: 'Commissar'... sure sounds alot like those 'czars' that he keeps harping against.


I love that they rail against Obama's "czars" which dominated the feudalist times the Republicans are so eager to bring back but they have no problem with the "Commisar" of the communist uprising.
Granted, Republicans (and most neoliberals) are practically Stalinists, they just want a private parasite class instead of a public one, but they want it just as centralized and in just as few hands.
 
2012-02-19 05:37:37 PM

Farkin'round: ..and see Obama get re-elected in a landslide.


*ssshhhh* there's trolls in them thar hills!

the opposite of charity is justice: 'Commissar'... sure sounds alot like those 'czars' that he keeps harping against.


And if you break it down, it sounds an awful lot like commie-czar. Why does Santorum want the communists to take over? What party membership, WHAR?
 
2012-02-19 05:37:57 PM

Mad_Radhu: [i678.photobucket.com image 308x448]

Soviet Comedy Robot Says: "In Santorum America, the ass farks you."


Actually, it's more like Soviet for "Mission Accomplished."

/Really.
 
2012-02-19 05:39:57 PM

ssa5:
Stupid people vote for stupid people who have stupid ideas. Who'd thunk that? So when can we end this atrocious idea of letting every moron vote? You have to pass an exam to drive, why not one to vote? We are getting the government we deserve by allowing the low IQ retards a voice when they really should have none.


Because those who can vote would probably only vote for their own interest (and oppress those who didn't or couldn't vote). Sure, democracy for all can lead to problems, but there is an election every 4 years.

And as stupid as people are, do you see Sarah Palin becoming president? Or any of these other idiots? And even if they do, like i said, there is an election in 4 years, and they would probably be voted out.

Jeffersonian democracy may not be perfect, but it is the best we have.
 
2012-02-19 05:40:13 PM
The ones who claim to love this country loudly daily and wrap themselves in the flag usually end up hating the country the most.
 
2012-02-19 05:43:13 PM
So Rick Santorum want to appoint a...shall we say... "Czar" to make sure we have enough conservative professors. That might just work!

/How far has the party of Lincoln fallen? Seriously, this numbnut has a chance to win the GOP primary.
 
2012-02-19 05:45:58 PM
He Rick, if you weren't a Poli Sci major in college you might have seen some not-so tree hugging hippy profs. They were in places like the School of Business.
 
2012-02-19 05:46:37 PM

ib_thinkin: rynthetyn: ...is convinced it's really hard to be a conservative Christian on campus because sometimes people disagree with him.

It's not that it's harder for them to be openly Christian or Conservative. It's just that the nature of their views make it harder to defend themselves in kind of environment they're in. My guess is that it stems more from the Christian angle than anything else, but I could be wrong. In law school, as a general matter, the argument "Because I/some book/some guy said so" doesn't get you very far (unless it's a class about the Federal Rules of Evidence... then it's the only argument you need to know). As a general matter, that's the only kind of argument that would ever be employed in the context of an argument between a Christian and a non-Christian.

It's not so much that it's hard to be a Christian at a law school, it's just that it's hard to find a justification for injecting your law school with your Christianity.


It's not even that, this guy thinks that it's an environment where it's difficult to simply be open about the fact that you're a Christian, even aside from getting into arguments with people about faith issues. If I'm remembering correctly, he's even used the language of the closet to express how he thinks it's so hard for people to open about their faith in such a liberal secular environment. Thing is, I'm a Christian, I've expressed that fact (and that I went to a Christian college is kind of a giveaway), I've mentioned in passing that my faith informs my beliefs on certain social justice issues, etc, because I'm not one to compartmentalize my life, and I've had none of the persecution that this guy seems to think happens to Christians on campus. Of course, I also don't think that just because someone disagrees with me on something that it means I'm being persecuted.

I'm involved in both OUTLaw and the Christian Legal Society, I've never had anybody in OUTLaw attack my Christian faith, but I did have the chaplain for Intervarsity Christian Fellowship talk to me after a Christian Legal Society meeting about how he'd like to sit down with me and discuss what he thinks the Bible says about being gay.
 
2012-02-19 05:47:32 PM

steverockson: So Rick Santorum want to appoint a...shall we say... "Czar" to make sure we have enough conservative professors. That might just work!

/How far has the party of Lincoln fallen? Seriously, this numbnut has a chance to win the GOP primary.


I might just vote for the guy in the primary. Just for the lulz. You know....a chaotic vote. That's OK, I hear.
 
2012-02-19 05:50:22 PM

GranoblasticMan: Hey, if you're looking for conservative professors in universities, just visit the College of Business (or however they brand it) at your local university and ask them about taxes and banking regulation.


seriously. but not all, I had some great finance professors that came from regulatory agencies, so i had some balance.

at my MBA, one of the finance professors tried feeding us the "community lending standards caused the mortgage meltdown" derp. i challenged him with federal reserve studies on default rates, and his response was "I don't feel like talking about this anymore"

he got fired last semester for all around suckitude. thank farking god.
 
2012-02-19 05:50:22 PM
Approves.

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2012-02-19 05:50:50 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: ...followed by his campaign promise to change the $10 bill to a photo of Reagan and Jesus double-teaming a crying Janeane Garofalo.


I have the strangest boner right now...
 
2012-02-19 05:51:06 PM
Dear Rick Santorum:

No. Fark off. Life is polarized enough without you trying to polarize it even further with your extremist bullshiat.

Sincerely,
The American Public
 
2012-02-19 05:51:22 PM
Santorum: the frothy mix of McCarthyism and Little House on The Prairie that is sometimes the by-product of...

I can't decide how best to finish the sentence. The Republican Party embracing the "Moral Majority"? Fear and stupidity?
 
2012-02-19 05:53:04 PM

what_now: I had a professor in my east coast liberal elitist university who was a hard core conservative. Named as an Ambassador under Ronald Reagan, a big wig in the GOP's intellectual elite (this was in the 90s, when such a thing existed*).

He used to sharpen his teeth on teenage liberals. You want to defend Clinton's* policies to him, you needed to come with a good argument. I watched this guy tear into people who couldn't defend his argument.

One of my friends wrote his final paper praising Jimmy Carter and the Camp David Accords. He did some meticulous research, backed up every single one of his arguments with citations and facts- and this was long before Wikipedia*.

He got an A+ on that paper. The professor read part of it out loud to the class, praising his research and his arguments, and then said it was one of the most infuriating things he had ever written.

You want that guy to teach college courses? Great. Give me a dozen of them. But I have a feeling that's not what Santorum means.


*adjusts onion


Nope, and neither do the people who would vote for him. Are there bad professors who lean to the left? Sure, there are bad teachers just like there are bad engineers and bad doctors who still wish they could vote for Ross Perot. Twits like Santorum just don't seem to understand that post-secondary education is(in part) about expanding your horizons and exploring new lines of thinking and research, something your old prof obviously understood. Of Rick is probably the sort of idiot who would propose standardized testing for universities to make sure students learned the "right" version of how the world works.
 
2012-02-19 05:53:32 PM

Craptastic: steverockson: So Rick Santorum want to appoint a...shall we say... "Czar" to make sure we have enough conservative professors. That might just work!

/How far has the party of Lincoln fallen? Seriously, this numbnut has a chance to win the GOP primary.

I might just vote for the guy in the primary. Just for the lulz. You know....a chaotic vote. That's OK, I hear.


You can if you want, but don't think for a second that the sonofabiatch can't win in November. He absolutely can; With Fox news and the super-PACs it's entirely possible, All it takes is a double dip recession, or some kind of foreign policy event and its not just possible, but likely
 
2012-02-19 05:54:07 PM

IronTom: I'm sure most teachers do love America, conservative or not. The ultra-leftist ones sort of seem to like other things more. Have no citations.


I confess, I was taught that loving your country right or wrong was nationalism and that nationalism and that is a bad thing. Of course, I was taught that in a private religious school but also in the boy scouts. Meanwhile, there are things I really do love about my country, others, not so much.
 
2012-02-19 05:54:48 PM
No one expects the Santorum Inquisition!
 
2012-02-19 05:56:56 PM
fark you, you jingoistic S.O.B.

I had more "Conservative" professors than I care to remember. They were all assholes, bent on taking over the campus College Republicans for their own gain. They were assholes in the classroom and assholes in their personal lives. The so-called "liberals" never did such a thing, they, ya know, TAUGHT shiat, as well as being cool people.


Go fark yourself you farking crusading fark.
 
2012-02-19 05:57:58 PM
That makes sense. Next up: a federal commissar to ensure enough of the generals in the Army are pacifists, and another one to ensure enough of the CEOs hired by corporations are socialists.
 
2012-02-19 06:01:16 PM
heh keep farking that chicken Rick. I thought you messed up real good last week when you said "no one but Catholics are real Christians" but the media let it slide with little coverage.
maybe they'll pay more attention to this derp.
 
2012-02-19 06:01:24 PM
You know, the more these threads pop up, the more I think there needs to be a third "Sad, but True" button that we can click...
 
2012-02-19 06:01:41 PM
Maybe college professors tend to be liberals because liberals are just more dedicated to seeking knowledge.

Same goes for journalists. I hear Republicans biatch about the way journalists vote all the time. What's the solution? An affirmative action program to give a specified number of these jobs to right wingers who are potentially less qualified to do the work?

Venture capitalists and hedge fund managers tend to be conservative. Maybe we need an affirmative action program to get more liberals into the jobs, huh Rick?
 
2012-02-19 06:07:20 PM
When you think about it some, the conservative fear is that damned liberals have taken over universities and are indoctrinating the young. While your first reaction is likely that any liberal bias is actually the result of open thinking, and the exploration of of new ideas, which are themselves liberal qualities, consider the young conservative. They very often are victims of some brand of hero worship and indoctrination.

Further, if you look at liberals that likewise fall in for hero worship or zealously follow fads, these are the same type of folks the conservatives could be getting if they had stronger representation on campuses. In essence, the conservatives are right that they would benefit from having more access to people with that sort of character defect that bends them to authority-following behavior.

The thing you really want in a university is to get people to think for themselves, or at lest the ones smart enough to deserve to be in a university. What could be more effective at getting students to reject the polemics of their professors than to have a segment of professors required to have certain political opinions?
 
2012-02-19 06:08:54 PM

dforkus: Craptastic: steverockson: So Rick Santorum want to appoint a...shall we say... "Czar" to make sure we have enough conservative professors. That might just work!

/How far has the party of Lincoln fallen? Seriously, this numbnut has a chance to win the GOP primary.

I might just vote for the guy in the primary. Just for the lulz. You know....a chaotic vote. That's OK, I hear.

You can if you want, but don't think for a second that the sonofabiatch can't win in November. He absolutely can; With Fox news and the super-PACs it's entirely possible, All it takes is a double dip recession, or some kind of foreign policy event and its not just possible, but likely


No. No he can't.
 
2012-02-19 06:09:39 PM

Hobodeluxe: heh keep farking that chicken Rick. I thought you messed up real good last week when you said "no one but Catholics are real Christians" but the media let it slide with little coverage.
maybe they'll pay more attention to this derp.


Oh boy, that one will really rile his base up.
 
2012-02-19 06:16:49 PM
(1) *looks at Israeli Apartheid Week in a depressing number of Canadian Universities*

(2) *looks at the idea of having conservative professors in Canadian Universities*

*Looks at 1. Looks at 2. Looks at 1. Looks at 2. Looks at 1. Looks at 2. Looks at 1. Looks at 2. Looks at 1. Looks at 2...*

*goes off to look at German pron; at least then when I'm looking at 1 and 2, they're totally honest about what it is they're spewing*

/I hope that there are some professors in American universities who are still trying to teach people to think for themselves, instead of teaching them to spew absolutely idiotic crap as if it's the gospel truth
//Seems to be slowly disappearing from Canadian universities.
 
2012-02-19 06:17:48 PM

WorldCitizen: Wow. Wow. Political tests for fields of knowledge. That's something right out of the Soviet play book. So, he's now like combining an Iranian Mullah and a Soviet commissar. Both of those things are so American, you know?


Or it it could be from the the USA in the 1950s, which suggests his policies are very American, and opposing them is Unamerican...
 
2012-02-19 06:18:10 PM

AmorousRedDragon: Hobodeluxe: heh keep farking that chicken Rick. I thought you messed up real good last week when you said "no one but Catholics are real Christians" but the media let it slide with little coverage.
maybe they'll pay more attention to this derp.

Oh boy, that one will really rile his base up.


Okay I was off on that a bit. It was from a 2008 speech. And the way he said it would pass right over the heads of most of the base. And Romney can't really do anything with it because he's a Mormon.

the actual quote was

"We all know that this country was founded on a Judeo-Christian ethic but the Judeo-Christian ethic was a Protestant Judeo-Christian ethic, sure the Catholics had some influence, but this was a Protestant country and the Protestant ethic, mainstream, mainline Protestantism, and of course we look at the shape of mainline Protestantism in this country and it is in shambles, it is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it."


of course some of the Protestants think Catholics aren't real Christians either. But you won't see them say it on the campaign trail.
 
2012-02-19 06:18:57 PM

Virtual Pariah: The man's a damn idiot.

Can't we get back the intelligent conservatives who understood what their beliefs were and had the ability to have rational discourse to support their points?


Can you actually remember a time when this was? I mean they had to "go hunting where the ducks were" for the racist vote in the 60s because their economics were idiocy and in doing so kicked out the last remenant of pro-civil rights northern republicans, which were the only thing the party had going for it at the time.
 
2012-02-19 06:19:43 PM

Weaver95:
incidentally, i've noticed that a LOT of GOP shills and True Believers get very upset when someone dares to discuss what it is Santorum wants to do to this country. they get REALLY upset when you use actual quotes from his speeches too. its like...secret knowledge or something.


Every few years, there are polls that come out that show that roughly 40-45% of people think the 1st amendment goes too far. As mentioned above, a similar percentage of people believe Genesis is the literal as dictated word of God. A quarter of the population thinks that the earth is 6,000 years old.

Seven mountains dominionism is promoted throughout megachurches across this country and GOP pols reference and endorse David Barton all the time. There is a large theocratic movement in this country that knows that they are not popular enough to win, but believes that they NEED to take over. Knowing that their ideas are not popular enough means that they know to dismiss or handwave any mention of their ideas. This is why the GOP is doubling down on the "it's not about birth control or slut shaming" when it's clearly about birth control and slut shaming.

If you want to spot the theocrat in the room, look for the person screaming loudest about sharia. That person is mostly just worried that he may be beaten to the punch. And then....well, beaten.

And Santorum in fact has a section of his stump speech where he talks about how the theocrats in Iran (and he mentions that word specifically without a hint of irony) will get us through Mexico with the help of Venezuela and Cuba. If he's still in the race by April, he'll weave Best Korea in there somehow too, I'm sure.
 
2012-02-19 06:20:14 PM

Techhell: /I hope that there are some professors in American universities who are still trying to teach people to think for themselves, instead of teaching them to spew absolutely idiotic crap as if it's the gospel truth
//Seems to be slowly disappearing from Canadian universities.


Socratic method.
 
2012-02-19 06:20:29 PM
There's an easy way to get him to back away from the statement. Just use the words 'Affirmative Action'.
 
2012-02-19 06:22:18 PM

Craptastic: IronTom: LectertheChef: IronTom: There should be a certain large percentage of teachers at each school that actually loves America.

10/10, That's some spiffy trolling you did there.

more like dipping your hand in the water and having piranhas bite it.

If you knew that there were piranha in the water, you'd only dip your hand in expecting to get bites.

Therefore, troll.
Therefore, plonk.

I don't mind having discussions with rightwingers, in fact I sometimes enjoy it. But you just outed yourself as a troll, so you get no attention from me. I'd encourage others to follow suit. The guy just admitted to trolling.


Yeah, whatever, you are calling me names. I'm just talking. You go right ahead. Putting a hand in the water is contributing to the discussion, not looking for bites at all.
 
2012-02-19 06:22:55 PM

Hobodeluxe: "no one but Catholics are real Christians"


You don't happen to have a link to an article about that do you?
 
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