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(Daily Kos)   Rick Santorum wants a federal commissar to ensure enough conservative professors are hired by universities. That seems pretty reasonable   (dailykos.com) divider line 411
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2012-02-19 04:24:18 PM
hubiestubert: Darth_Lukecash: The problem comes from my farking generation.

I'm 45. We were conditioned by Rambo. Raised by uncle Ronnie. When we our age of sexuality began, AIDS epidemic hit. Liberals and Carter were made into boogeyman.

The result? We got a Black Democratic president who is a right moderate and GOP who's fascist leaning is considered normal.

Pretty much.

Remember when George Bush blasted Reagan's Voodoo Economics? The one thing we can damn him for, is that he didn't drive that home enough. I hate to say this, but I really wonder what the 80s would have been like if Bush had taken the nomination and won in 1980. Bush was an Ambassador to the UN. Envoy to China. Director of the CIA, dammit. He was, perhaps one of the most qualified Presidents we've had in two generations.

And he played second banana to the guy who fed actors and directors to HUAC...

TANJ...


GHBush could have been considered a great president, except for the Republican economic timebomb that blew up in his face, and he was oblivious to it. Even my father, who was hard core conservative voted against him because of the S&L crisis.

He was great internationally, lousy domestically
 
2012-02-19 04:25:00 PM
Wrong tag, sir.

I believe we're looking for the SCARY tag since this guy is the current Anyone But Romney. Now he might be peaking a bit soon to lock things up, but seriously. SCARY tag please.
 
2012-02-19 04:27:01 PM
Enough for what? To keep the student union building tea-room scene lively?
 
2012-02-19 04:27:41 PM
farm6.staticflickr.com
 
2012-02-19 04:32:13 PM
Why would you want college professors to teach the failed ideology known as conservatism?
 
2012-02-19 04:34:08 PM
themindiswatching: So Rick Santorum is for affirmative action?

that's right. why shouldn't dumbasses be teachers? it's not fair to the dumbasses.
 
2012-02-19 04:35:25 PM
The fact that this farking douchebag Christianist authoritarian can even sniff the GOP nomination is everything you need to know about the current Republican party. Lincoln would weep.
 
2012-02-19 04:35:30 PM
Quotas are bad. Quotas are always bad. They're wrong. They bad and wrong. Quotas are always bad and wrong. And immoral. Quotas are bad, wrong and immoral. Always.

ALWAYS.

Unless they're Republican.
 
2012-02-19 04:37:34 PM
Kibbler: Unless they're Republican.

IOKIYAR


MrEricSir: That's what I don't get. Genesis contains two contradictory versions of a story interwoven into one document. To believe in it "literally" is an act of Doublethink.

See, your problem is that you're applying logic to this.
 
2012-02-19 04:37:45 PM
Kibbler: Quotas are bad. Quotas are always bad. They're wrong. They bad and wrong. Quotas are always bad and wrong. And immoral. Quotas are bad, wrong and immoral. Always.

ALWAYS.

Unless they're Republican.



Kinda like adultery, drug use and casual sex in public restrooms.
 
2012-02-19 04:38:44 PM
IronTom: There should be a certain large percentage of teachers at each school that actually loves America.

10/10, That's some spiffy trolling you did there.
 
2012-02-19 04:39:39 PM
Kibbler: Quotas are bad. Quotas are always bad. They're wrong. They bad and wrong. Quotas are always bad and wrong. And immoral. Quotas are bad, wrong and immoral. Always.

ALWAYS.

Unless they're Republican.


Just save this and use it as a template for every time the GOP spouts a "for me, but not for thee" statement.

Government legislating behavior is always bad. It's wrong. It's bad and wrong. Government legislating behavior is always bad and wrong. And immoral. Government legislating behavior is bad, wrong and immoral. Always.

Unless they're Republican.


See?
 
2012-02-19 04:39:42 PM
theorellior: Kibbler: Quotas are bad. Quotas are always bad. They're wrong. They bad and wrong. Quotas are always bad and wrong. And immoral. Quotas are bad, wrong and immoral. Always.

ALWAYS.

Unless they're Republican.


Kinda like adultery, drug use and casual sex in public restrooms.


Oh! And welfare. Don't forget about welfare. Or really, government spending of any kind.
 
2012-02-19 04:40:08 PM
Rick...you moron; you cater to the lowest fearful denominator among conservatives. Good job...but seriously none of the big issues that you talk about are actually big issues. Abortion? Only big if you haven't kept up with the lat 30-40 years of history. Conservative litmus tests for hiring professors? Oh come on now...have some trust in people to think for themselves. But wait...if you did that they they would probably not vote for you.

/can't believe the utter shiat pile of candidates that I have to choose from this time.
//ron paul
///we can do better people
////slashy abuse is a federal offense
// 10-20 in a federal prison for that one
/its the economy...derp
 
2012-02-19 04:41:44 PM
I go to a law school where the right-wing Federalist Society is the largest and most powerful student group on campus by orders of magnitude, where it's like pulling teeth to get anyone to show up at any meetings of more liberal student groups, where the Christian Legal Society has about twice as many active members as OUTLaw, etc, and yet the president of the Federalist Society is convinced it's really hard to be a conservative Christian on campus because sometimes people disagree with him.

If that's the kind of persecution complex that is governing this idea that universities need to be forced to hire more conservative professors, we're going to wind up with some kind of McCarthyesqe blacklist and professors getting dragged before congress to prove that they aren't too liberal.
 
2012-02-19 04:42:13 PM
IronTom: CougarJeff: IronTom: There should be a certain large percentage of teachers at each school that actually loves America.

We do. That's why I hate your guts.

I never cared for your odd method of teaching either, where you play TV shows for your students. It sure sounds like you are skipping out on your duties and abdicating that to TV shows.


So, you'd prefer that teachers don't use wonderful resources like Bill Nye? Bill's videos are educational, funny, and fifth graders love them. They're usually fairly short, so you can spend the rest of the period reinforcing the information presented, fielding questions, and expanding upon the information that interested the kids. Utilizing videos is not "abdicating" anything at all. Had I not watched Richard Burton & Liz Taylor during my literature class, I'd have never gotten interested in reading Shakespeare. Had I not watched Huckleberry Finn in middle school, I'd have never become the Twain aficionado that I am. (that, and Miss Lindsay loaning me her copy of Letters From The Earth - I still love her for that.)
 
2012-02-19 04:45:21 PM
Maybe we should let super PACs speak with their money to determine who should be a professor. Whoever gets the most super PAC dollar votes, gets the job.

Obviously, that's the fair way to do it.
 
2012-02-19 04:46:36 PM
indylaw: /The Republican Party - ethically and intellectually bankrupt since God knows when.

Since Nixon's Southern Strategy.
 
2012-02-19 04:48:42 PM
Franco went after the universities, too...
 
2012-02-19 04:49:04 PM
So really, what Santorum is talking about here are faculty in the humanities, social sciences, and history. He's going to need a lot of academic foot soldiers to rewrite history and the consensus on sociocultural theory to prove that religious conservatives were right all along, you see. It will also help to foster a new consensus that provides an academic foundation for his aggressively authoritarian and repressive regime.

What a stain in the bedsheets of humanity this man is. Thank Ahura Mazda he isn't even going to win his party's nomination. My hope is that by having Santorum come this close, the left actually gets somewhat energized.
 
2012-02-19 04:52:21 PM
I think we should let the market decide.
 
2012-02-19 04:52:51 PM
culebra: Thank Ahura Mazda he isn't even going to win his party's nomination.

I really wish he would. Many lulz would be had.
 
2012-02-19 04:54:26 PM
Silly Santorum, don't you know only liberals favorite protected classes get special preference?

Minority/Union owned business as a % of government work.
Affirmative Action.
Gender (female) specific scholarships.
Title IX
 
2012-02-19 04:56:11 PM
"And that his how Reagan karate-chopped Hitler and saved the world. Jimmy, I see your hand raised. What did I say about questions, Jimmy? What did I say? I said, don't question the teachings of Jesus. And yet, there you are, questioning the teachings of Jesus. Why do you hate Jesus, Jimmy? Why do you doubt that Jesus sent his only begotten son Reagan to karate-chop Hitler and save the world? Did you want Hitler to win, and carry on the old socialist American public school system that he and his sodomy husband Mussolini loved so much? Did you want to be confused with a lot of lies? Do you want to be forced to kiss boys and salute Hitler? Then why, Jimmy? Why, why, why must you raise your hand? Day after day, week after week, I come to work, I'm ready to teach the truth of Jesus and his only-begotten son Reagan, and there you are, your hand in the air. I try not to drink, Jimmy, I try not to think about bourbon, brownest of the brown liquors...what? Bourbon? You *want* me to drink you? You *command* me? Jesus told you to command me?"
 
2012-02-19 04:56:18 PM
So, let me get this straight?

Rick Santorum would like there to be something done to ensure at least a certain number of conservative teachers.

He believes that this is an 'action' that should be done, and that it should be affirmed.

It sounds sorta like some policy he disapporves of, but he wouldn't be a hypocritcal ass, would he?

(Spoiler:

Yes he would)
 
2012-02-19 04:56:20 PM
cameroncrazy1984: Weaver95: IronTom: Weaver95:
They should report to a Committee for State Security. But abbreviated somehow, possibly in Russian.


No, no, make it an Extraordinary Committee, one that would check Americanism. Call it Check Ah. And the guys who do the checking, call them check-ists.

/That's the ticket.
 
2012-02-19 04:56:22 PM
theorellior: Keep saying things like this, Rick. Keep putting the unvarnished truth out there. Keep taking-no-prisoners when it comes to conservative ideological purity. Let the people of the United States you won't stand for any of this namby-pamby RINO crap. Show 'em what a Real Conservative believes.

...so that intelligent, thinking people can avoid you.
 
2012-02-19 04:56:39 PM
culebra: My hope is that by having Santorum come this close, the left actually gets somewhat energized.

Not sure if giggity or ew.
 
2012-02-19 04:57:00 PM
The man's a damn idiot.

Can't we get back the intelligent conservatives who understood what their beliefs were and had the ability to have rational discourse to support their points?
 
2012-02-19 04:57:05 PM
ultraholland: culebra: Thank Ahura Mazda he isn't even going to win his party's nomination.

I really wish he would. Many lulz would be had.


True enough it would be a slaughter. These religious types tend to get all martyr-y
in those situations, however, so it might be better if he just gets quietly smothered by Romney's millions.

But no-you're right. That shiat would be hilarious and completely worth it.
 
2012-02-19 04:59:22 PM
If you are to be eligible for federal funds, you'll have to provide an equal number of conservative professors as liberal professors.

Sounds like someone forgot that we're supposed to have the federal department of education, along with the fairness doctrine.

/Conservative outrages would be so much more reasonable if they were internally consistent.
 
2012-02-19 05:00:07 PM
MyRandomName: Silly Santorum, don't you know only liberals favorite protected classes get special preference?

Minority/Union owned business as a % of government work.
Affirmative Action.
Gender (female) specific scholarships.
Title IX


Also veterans.
 
2012-02-19 05:00:07 PM
I'm sure most teachers do love America, conservative or not. The ultra-leftist ones sort of seem to like other things more. Have no citations.
 
2012-02-19 05:02:19 PM
Oh wow! I can' decide which loon I want to see lose against Obama.

They're all so deserving!
 
2012-02-19 05:03:02 PM
A politically diverse faculty? Sounds like a good thing.
 
2012-02-19 05:03:03 PM
It's all bunk about loving America. Neither side really does.

Liberals love an America that could be.
Conservatives love an America that never was.
 
2012-02-19 05:03:29 PM
I wish we had Carlin around for this election. His bits about Catholics were always my favorite.

On a similar note, someone should troll Santorum's campaign by switching the music at his next function to Zappa's Catholic Girls.

/all the way
 
2012-02-19 05:03:50 PM
MyRandomName: Silly Santorum, don't you know only liberals favorite protected classes get special preference?

Minority/Union owned business as a % of government work.
Affirmative Action.
Gender (female) specific scholarships.
Title IX


Why is it that every Farker with Random in their name is a total right-wing tool? Or is there really just one of you?
 
2012-02-19 05:04:39 PM
mark12A: A politically diverse faculty? Sounds like a good thing.

Sounds like virtually every university with which I've ever been involved too (and there are many). Santorum, as usual, is speaking from a place of ignorance on the matter.
 
2012-02-19 05:04:59 PM
I think that poultry farmers should use an equal number of foxes as hens for egg laying.
 
2012-02-19 05:05:09 PM
mark12A: A politically diverse faculty? Sounds like a good thing.

I suppose more qualified conservatives should go into teaching then. Non-problem solved.
 
2012-02-19 05:05:27 PM
LectertheChef: IronTom: There should be a certain large percentage of teachers at each school that actually loves America.

10/10, That's some spiffy trolling you did there.


more like dipping your hand in the water and having piranhas bite it.
 
2012-02-19 05:06:42 PM
rynthetyn: ...is convinced it's really hard to be a conservative Christian on campus because sometimes people disagree with him.

It's not that it's harder for them to be openly Christian or Conservative. It's just that the nature of their views make it harder to defend themselves in kind of environment they're in. My guess is that it stems more from the Christian angle than anything else, but I could be wrong. In law school, as a general matter, the argument "Because I/some book/some guy said so" doesn't get you very far (unless it's a class about the Federal Rules of Evidence... then it's the only argument you need to know). As a general matter, that's the only kind of argument that would ever be employed in the context of an argument between a Christian and a non-Christian.

It's not so much that it's hard to be a Christian at a law school, it's just that it's hard to find a justification for injecting your law school with your Christianity.
 
2012-02-19 05:06:52 PM
mark12A: A politically diverse faculty? Sounds like a good thing.

How about a faculty made up of the highest, most competent experts in their fields of study? I think I'll take that along with academic freedom rather than your political test.
 
2012-02-19 05:06:56 PM
Did it ever occur to Rick that there are so few professors who agree with him because smart, well-educated people know that his ideas are terrible?
 
2012-02-19 05:07:36 PM
Conservatives sure love their Fascism, don't they?
 
2012-02-19 05:08:55 PM
My big question: where is Mitt Romney in all of this? He could easily bash down Santorum and bring little civility back to the discussion by focusing on how we should be dealing with the politics at hand, not engaging in demonization that has been the bane of American politics so far.

Oh, wait: the one who did that today was one of Obama's staff, who are laughing at how the Republicans are squealing about saving 'their' party yet not countering any of this at all because...um...yeah.

The Republicans, by their silence, agree with this. Therefore, the Republicans are now a Christian fascist party who are just dishonest enough to screech about their past to trick people into voting for them. Yeah, that should end well.
 
2012-02-19 05:09:29 PM
WorldCitizen: mark12A: A politically diverse faculty? Sounds like a good thing.

How about a faculty made up of the highest, most competent experts in their fields of study? I think I'll take that along with academic freedom rather than your political test.


Clearly we cannot trust the free market in this case. IronTom: LectertheChef: IronTom: There should be a certain large percentage of teachers at each school that actually loves America.

10/10, That's some spiffy trolling you did there.

more like dipping your hand in the water and having piranhas bite it.


Kinky. I hope your "hand" heals quickly.
 
2012-02-19 05:09:41 PM
"I love America."

DRINK!
 
2012-02-19 05:09:41 PM
1) That sounds like affirmative action. I thought conservatives hated that?

2) There are conservative professors in universities. They're in the Business (and likely law and medicine) departments..
 
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