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2012-02-19 09:07:38 AM
Back in the 90s when Rush Limbaugh was in his heyday, back when he was actually entertaining and insightful, he predicted this attack on personal liberties was bound to happen. The authoritarian policies of the environmental and health movements stem from the same single source: modern liberalism. While the goal isn't particularly to run someone's life, the inherent motivator behind these movements is the premise that the liberal knows better than you what is good for you and you should be prevented from hurting yourself, taking away your freedom to do so in the process.

The concept is couched in terms of protecting the public and providing for the health and wellbeing of future generations, but the truly insidious policies are those in which the actions of a few somehow have an exaggerated effect on others. Most clearly this is seen in universal healthcare, which the Republicans bravely sabotaged (both when Clinton tried it and when Obama tried it). By making the cost of healthcare everyone's responsibility, the Democrats want to demonize anyone who tries to live free lives.

This latest attack on wheat and "gluten" is just another one of these attacks on personal freedom. First they came for the gas guzzlers and I didn't speak up because I liked clean air. Then they came for the drug users, and I didn't speak up because I liked safe neighborhoods. Then they came for the fatty foods, and I didn't speak up because I liked Garden Burgers. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak out for me.
 
2012-02-19 09:10:49 AM
Heh, his name's Hyman. Heh.
 
2012-02-19 09:22:45 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Back in the 90s when Rush Limbaugh was in his heyday, back when he was actually entertaining and insightful, he predicted this attack on personal liberties was bound to happen. The authoritarian policies of the environmental and health movements stem from the same single source: modern liberalism. While the goal isn't particularly to run someone's life, the inherent motivator behind these movements is the premise that the liberal knows better than you what is good for you and you should be prevented from hurting yourself, taking away your freedom to do so in the process.

The concept is couched in terms of protecting the public and providing for the health and wellbeing of future generations, but the truly insidious policies are those in which the actions of a few somehow have an exaggerated effect on others. Most clearly this is seen in universal healthcare, which the Republicans bravely sabotaged (both when Clinton tried it and when Obama tried it). By making the cost of healthcare everyone's responsibility, the Democrats want to demonize anyone who tries to live free lives.

This latest attack on wheat and "gluten" is just another one of these attacks on personal freedom. First they came for the gas guzzlers and I didn't speak up because I liked clean air. Then they came for the drug users, and I didn't speak up because I liked safe neighborhoods. Then they came for the fatty foods, and I didn't speak up because I liked Garden Burgers. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak out for me.


Is this the new Mike Lowell? No way you can be for real in any of this shiat.
 
2012-02-19 09:30:36 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Back in the 90s when Rush Limbaugh was in his heyday, back when he was actually entertaining and insightful, he predicted this attack on personal liberties was bound to happen. The authoritarian policies of the environmental and health movements stem from the same single source: modern liberalism. While the goal isn't particularly to run someone's life, the inherent motivator behind these movements is the premise that the liberal knows better than you what is good for you and you should be prevented from hurting yourself, taking away your freedom to do so in the process.

The concept is couched in terms of protecting the public and providing for the health and wellbeing of future generations, but the truly insidious policies are those in which the actions of a few somehow have an exaggerated effect on others. Most clearly this is seen in universal healthcare, which the Republicans bravely sabotaged (both when Clinton tried it and when Obama tried it). By making the cost of healthcare everyone's responsibility, the Democrats want to demonize anyone who tries to live free lives.

This latest attack on wheat and "gluten" is just another one of these attacks on personal freedom. First they came for the gas guzzlers and I didn't speak up because I liked clean air. Then they came for the drug users, and I didn't speak up because I liked safe neighborhoods. Then they came for the fatty foods, and I didn't speak up because I liked Garden Burgers. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak out for me.


kevinfamous.com
 
2012-02-19 09:57:48 AM
Sadly, this tsunami of chronic illness is increasingly caused by eating our beloved diet staple, bread, the staff of life, and all the wheat products hidden in everything from soups to vodka to lipstick to envelope adhesive.

Yeah, that's what is destroying our health, lipstick and envelopes. Not the fact that people are eating 10,000 calories a day.
 
2012-02-19 10:01:45 AM

jayhawk88: Sadly, this tsunami of chronic illness is increasingly caused by eating our beloved diet staple, bread, the staff of life, and all the wheat products hidden in everything from soups to vodka to lipstick to envelope adhesive.

Yeah, that's what is destroying our health, lipstick and envelopes. Not the fact that people are eating 10,000 calories a day.


That bacon and gravy sandwitch is much healthier without all those carbs.
 
2012-02-19 10:02:35 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Back in the 90s when Rush Limbaugh was in his heyday, back when he was actually entertaining and insightful, he predicted this attack on personal liberties was bound to happen. The authoritarian policies of the environmental and health movements stem from the same single source: modern liberalism. While the goal isn't particularly to run someone's life, the inherent motivator behind these movements is the premise that the liberal knows better than you what is good for you and you should be prevented from hurting yourself, taking away your freedom to do so in the process.

The concept is couched in terms of protecting the public and providing for the health and wellbeing of future generations, but the truly insidious policies are those in which the actions of a few somehow have an exaggerated effect on others. Most clearly this is seen in universal healthcare, which the Republicans bravely sabotaged (both when Clinton tried it and when Obama tried it). By making the cost of healthcare everyone's responsibility, the Democrats want to demonize anyone who tries to live free lives.

This latest attack on wheat and "gluten" is just another one of these attacks on personal freedom. First they came for the gas guzzlers and I didn't speak up because I liked clean air. Then they came for the drug users, and I didn't speak up because I liked safe neighborhoods. Then they came for the fatty foods, and I didn't speak up because I liked Garden Burgers. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak out for me.



Yes, because the news article...is a direct order to come and pick you up and force you to live a very specific lifestyle.

Have you ever considered for a second that perhaps you're wound a tad too tight Francis?
 
2012-02-19 10:04:24 AM
Having a freshly made sugar cookie or two as part of a healthy breakfast (Sunday is Junk Food Day, in case you didn't know), so getting a kick - a sugar kick, that is. (:
 
2012-02-19 10:05:12 AM
If gluten was so bad, then human kind would have died off long ago.

But, yes, people are eating too many carbohydrates. Replace your pasta with veggies. Replace your rice with veggies. Replace your potatoes with real veggies.


Celiac disease is serious. IF you have it. Big if.



Very few people have it. My brother it law has it, and it makes life difficult, and reactions hit him hard. He once ate something that he didn't realize had seitan in it, which is more or less pure gluten. He had a couple of drinks, and was sleeping hard on his back when he started projectile vomiting like a geyser.

Another time his farts were so bad his wife started dry heaving.
 
2012-02-19 10:06:09 AM
I'm gonna grow my very own wheat when I get the hobby farm running. A 40' X 40' patch of wheat will produce enough for one person for a year. Gonna make a lot of pasta (for religious purposes, thank FSM)
 
2012-02-19 10:06:21 AM
I especially like wheat when it's turned into bread and protecting my fingers from bacon grease while I eat.
 
2012-02-19 10:08:07 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Back in the 90s when Rush Limbaugh was in his heyday, back when he was actually entertaining and insightful,


Really, does anyone need to read more?

/Ameritards
 
2012-02-19 10:08:12 AM
I swear all of this anti-gluten bs is paid for by the corn industry.
 
2012-02-19 10:10:32 AM
Yes, the obesity epidemic is caused by eating wheat. Because of course no one ate wheat until the 80's.

HuffPo's alternative health stuff is really the worst.
 
2012-02-19 10:12:05 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Back in the 90s when Rush Limbaugh was in his heyday, back when he was actually entertaining and insightful

all hopped up on hillbilly heroin
 
2012-02-19 10:12:33 AM
Exercise more and eat less and those evil carbs wont be so evil, people!

/loves all those elite runners lugging around "wheat bellies"
//went to the doctor to discuss my food intolerances and out of nowhere he told me to avoid gluten
//society is so awesome
 
2012-02-19 10:15:45 AM
My church makes a big deal out of announcing they have gluten free communion wafers available, for the 1 person in our congregation that needs them. I think I'll tell them I require grape juice with no artificial food coloring, just to see them freak out.
 
2012-02-19 10:16:04 AM
This article really helped me watch my weight, because it made me puke up breakfast.


/which was vodak, envelopes, and lipstick
 
2012-02-19 10:16:14 AM
dietchoices.com
 
2012-02-19 10:16:16 AM
Aren't we supposed to be hating corn? Or are we supposed to hate wheat as well, now? Is rice still okay? What about red meats? Do they still cause cancer, or was that soy? I need a chart or something to tell me what foods to fear and which ones to be outraged about.
 
2012-02-19 10:17:24 AM

WorkingInParadise: I require grape juice


they serve grape juice? Oh come on.


/eucharistic cup bearer in high school.
//went to 3rd period tipsy after "consuming all the specie"
 
2012-02-19 10:17:46 AM
Yes, gluten is a real problem.

Ways to tell that an article giving medical advice is complete bullshiat, entry #1.

//Unless this is a column directed specifically at people with Chron's disease, I guess, for everyone else it's a normal metabolic trigger and any weight gain associated with it can be eliminated by eating less in general without ill effect.
 
2012-02-19 10:18:11 AM

xpennyroyaltyx: What about red meats?


you can hate all the CAFO crap they serve in restaurants and grocery stores. The local, free foraging stuff is goodness.
 
2012-02-19 10:18:53 AM
Behold the amazing migrating H, I am the spelling master!

//Crohn's
 
2012-02-19 10:22:20 AM

Teknowaffle: If gluten was so bad, then human kind would have died off long ago.


If salt was so bad, then human kind would have died off long ago; If alcohol was so bad, then human kind would have died off long ago; If tobacco was so bad, then human kind would have died off long ago; If cocaine was so bad, then human kind would have died off long ago.

"A major study in the Journal of the American Medical Association reported that hidden gluten sensitivity (elevated antibodies without full-blown celiac disease) was shown to increase risk of death by 35 to 75 percent, mostly by causing heart disease and cancer."

This is from the article, which derives from the research presented in the JAMA - This is a peer reviewed journal for doctors. I guarantee you that it's read and tested by people that knows their shiat.

I'm more inclined to believe a peer reviewed journal than a random farker that believes gluten is bad only if you have a full blown Celiac disease. 'Big if'.
 
2012-02-19 10:23:06 AM
odinsposse

Your SAT scores must have been a running joke at your school. Reading comprehension much? OR is it your position that the food you eat now is the same as it was 60 years ago? It's not. That's a fact, not a proposition. If you actually took the time to read the article...ahhh, never mind. And however awful Huff Po's "alternative" health articles might be, they're nothing compared to the willful parade of idiocy that is the Fark comments section.
 
2012-02-19 10:23:32 AM

mekkab:
you can hate all the CAFO crap they serve in restaurants and grocery stores. The local, free foraging stuff is goodness.


I agree with you, but there are no local, free foraging domesticated animals where I live. I'd have to go out and shoot the wild ones myself. And they all sort of taste like spruce trees.
 
2012-02-19 10:23:42 AM

Jim_Callahan: Behold the amazing migrating H, I am the spelling master!

//Crohn's


Also the wrong disease, but the spelling error bothers me more. I'm just full of success this morning.

//Need more coffee.
 
2012-02-19 10:25:37 AM

mekkab: This article really helped me watch my weight, because it made me puke up breakfast.


/which was vodak, envelopes, and lipstick


It was Teknowaffle's post that did it for me.

Hey, and Rush Limbaugh was funny. You have to be funny as shiat to make Republican talking points amusing.
 
2012-02-19 10:29:08 AM

xpennyroyaltyx: Aren't we supposed to be hating corn? Or are we supposed to hate wheat as well, now? Is rice still okay? What about red meats? Do they still cause cancer, or was that soy? I need a chart or something to tell me what foods to fear and which ones to be outraged about.


Soy and corn have a lot of GMO's unless you source them and some people think soy causes breast cancer. I read that rice absorbs and carries elevated levels of arsenic (at least the brown rice). I think red meat is okay though. The link between heart disease and red meat in the scientific literature is still indefinite.

I don't don't have the patience to read anti-carb literature or this wheat stuff. Maybe someday.
 
2012-02-19 10:36:38 AM

xpennyroyaltyx: Aren't we supposed to be hating corn? Or are we supposed to hate wheat as well, now? Is rice still okay? What about red meats? Do they still cause cancer, or was that soy? I need a chart or something to tell me what foods to fear and which ones to be outraged about.


We're supposed to be eating nothing but arugula and dijon mustard. Orders from The Mooch and her Iron Fist O' Dictatorialness.
 
2012-02-19 10:40:20 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Back in the 90s when Rush Limbaugh was in his heyday, back when he was actually entertaining and insightful, he predicted this attack on personal liberties was bound to happen. The authoritarian policies of the environmental and health movements stem from the same single source: modern liberalism. While the goal isn't particularly to run someone's life, the inherent motivator behind these movements is the premise that the liberal knows better than you what is good for you and you should be prevented from hurting yourself, taking away your freedom to do so in the process.

The concept is couched in terms of protecting the public and providing for the health and wellbeing of future generations, but the truly insidious policies are those in which the actions of a few somehow have an exaggerated effect on others. Most clearly this is seen in universal healthcare, which the Republicans bravely sabotaged (both when Clinton tried it and when Obama tried it). By making the cost of healthcare everyone's responsibility, the Democrats want to demonize anyone who tries to live free lives.

This latest attack on wheat and "gluten" is just another one of these attacks on personal freedom. First they came for the gas guzzlers and I didn't speak up because I liked clean air. Then they came for the drug users, and I didn't speak up because I liked safe neighborhoods. Then they came for the fatty foods, and I didn't speak up because I liked Garden Burgers. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak out for me.


Someone sounds fat.
 
2012-02-19 10:41:44 AM
As someone with celiac disease -- Farking wonderful: Here comes the newest army of idiots training my waiter that "Gluten Free" is a weight loss fad and not really something important.
 
2012-02-19 10:42:16 AM
Doctors won't be happy unless every last human in the world is eating the human equivalent of Hill's Science Diet, those tasteless dry little nuggets your vet tells you to feed your pet (or else your pet will die an early death), taking every last joy out of his eating, turning it into a chore.

Sure, we'll all live to 150, but we'll all be miserable.

While the doctors themselves probably gorge on steak and lobster.
 
2012-02-19 10:47:24 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Back in the 90s when Rush Limbaugh was in his heyday, back when he was actually entertaining and insightful, he predicted this attack on personal liberties was bound to happen. The authoritarian policies of the environmental and health movements stem from the same single source: modern liberalism. While the goal isn't particularly to run someone's life, the inherent motivator behind these movements is the premise that the liberal knows better than you what is good for you and you should be prevented from hurting yourself, taking away your freedom to do so in the process.

The concept is couched in terms of protecting the public and providing for the health and wellbeing of future generations, but the truly insidious policies are those in which the actions of a few somehow have an exaggerated effect on others. Most clearly this is seen in universal healthcare, which the Republicans bravely sabotaged (both when Clinton tried it and when Obama tried it). By making the cost of healthcare everyone's responsibility, the Democrats want to demonize anyone who tries to live free lives.

This latest attack on wheat and "gluten" is just another one of these attacks on personal freedom. First they came for the gas guzzlers and I didn't speak up because I liked clean air. Then they came for the drug users, and I didn't speak up because I liked safe neighborhoods. Then they came for the fatty foods, and I didn't speak up because I liked Garden Burgers. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak out for me.


I have a chiropractor cousin who would love the shiat out of this article, in addition to his vaccine hating. He's always posting shiat like this on Facebook. And he's the most Republicany Republican that ever Republican'd.
 
2012-02-19 10:49:54 AM

elysive: Soy and corn have a lot of GMO's . . .


Is it bad that the idea of genetically modified grains doesn't freak me out? Especially if we can, you know, genetically modify them to feed more people who don't have enough to eat as it is? Patenting and profiting are a whole other kettle of fishtm, however.
 
2012-02-19 10:50:09 AM
FTFA: "The best way to avoid foods that are bad for you is to stay away from foods with health claims on the labels. They are usually hiding something bad."

Heh.
 
2012-02-19 10:51:36 AM
AverageAmericanGuy:...the inherent motivator behind these movements is the premise that the liberal knows better than you what is good for you...

Yes, because no dittohead or Beck-head has ever gotten in someone's face screaming about how much smarter they are and how much more well-informed.
 
2012-02-19 10:53:33 AM

xpennyroyaltyx: elysive: Soy and corn have a lot of GMO's . . .

Is it bad that the idea of genetically modified grains doesn't freak me out? Especially if we can, you know, genetically modify them to feed more people who don't have enough to eat as it is? Patenting and profiting are a whole other kettle of fishtm, however.


Yes, it should freak you out. The terminator genes in GMO organisms make it so there will be no fertile seeds in the next generation of crops. There is no way to prevent at least some mix with surrounding fields, thereby removing fertility from farmland. It creates a basic food dependency on genetic companies like Monsanto. Again, yes, it should freak you out.
 
2012-02-19 10:53:39 AM
Oh it contains a "super drug"? Right, sure. I guess if you use scary enough language, people will just listen to you :P.

Any time you need to try and use bullshiat, made up, scare terms to try and sell your point, that you are full of shiat is beyond question.
 
2012-02-19 10:54:00 AM

R.A.Danny: Hyman


I haven't seen that guy in years.
 
2012-02-19 10:54:15 AM

INeedAName: AverageAmericanGuy: Back in the 90s when Rush Limbaugh was in his heyday, back when he was actually entertaining and insightful, he predicted this attack on personal liberties was bound to happen. The authoritarian policies of the environmental and health movements stem from the same single source: modern liberalism. While the goal isn't particularly to run someone's life, the inherent motivator behind these movements is the premise that the liberal knows better than you what is good for you and you should be prevented from hurting yourself, taking away your freedom to do so in the process.

The concept is couched in terms of protecting the public and providing for the health and wellbeing of future generations, but the truly insidious policies are those in which the actions of a few somehow have an exaggerated effect on others. Most clearly this is seen in universal healthcare, which the Republicans bravely sabotaged (both when Clinton tried it and when Obama tried it). By making the cost of healthcare everyone's responsibility, the Democrats want to demonize anyone who tries to live free lives.

This latest attack on wheat and "gluten" is just another one of these attacks on personal freedom. First they came for the gas guzzlers and I didn't speak up because I liked clean air. Then they came for the drug users, and I didn't speak up because I liked safe neighborhoods. Then they came for the fatty foods, and I didn't speak up because I liked Garden Burgers. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Someone sounds fat.


And crazy. If he's the "average" American guy, God help you all.
 
2012-02-19 10:56:01 AM

pirrip: As someone with celiac disease -- Farking wonderful: Here comes the newest army of idiots training my waiter that "Gluten Free" is a weight loss fad and not really something important.


I totally understand where you're coming from. A close friend of mine has struggled with Celiac disease for years. On the bright side, it seems that all the attention being paid to gluten recently has resulted in more and more gluten-free products hitting the market at a (relatively) lower cost. At least your waiter (and the restaurant he works at) will be aware of what gluten actually is now!
 
2012-02-19 10:57:02 AM

BlippityBleep: xpennyroyaltyx: elysive: Soy and corn have a lot of GMO's . . .

Is it bad that the idea of genetically modified grains doesn't freak me out? Especially if we can, you know, genetically modify them to feed more people who don't have enough to eat as it is? Patenting and profiting are a whole other kettle of fishtm, however.

Yes, it should freak you out. The terminator genes in GMO organisms make it so there will be no fertile seeds in the next generation of crops. There is no way to prevent at least some mix with surrounding fields, thereby removing fertility from farmland. It creates a basic food dependency on genetic companies like Monsanto. Again, yes, it should freak you out.


Yes! Do your research into what Monsanto is doing in their business model and then be worried.

Even though most of the research is done on google, try watching "The World According To Monsanto" and see if that doesn't scare the hell out of you.
 
2012-02-19 11:01:56 AM
I don't think wheat is the issue for the majority of obese people.
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-02-19 11:03:53 AM
So basically the gist of the article is "if you have celiac disease DON'T EAT GLUTEN. Oh and if you're a fatass don't eat 8 rolls at dinnertime. No matter how tasty their gluten is."

Also i find that homemade bread tastes better and is more cost effective. Granted, it does take time.

/been a home baker for about a year now.
//1 loaf = $1.50 worth of ingredients, 30 minutes of hands on time, 2 hours of rise time, 30-40 minutes baking time
///Nothing smells better than baking bread, except maybe baked beans cooking all day.
////slashies!
 
2012-02-19 11:04:05 AM

xpennyroyaltyx: elysive: Soy and corn have a lot of GMO's . . .

Is it bad that the idea of genetically modified grains doesn't freak me out? Especially if we can, you know, genetically modify them to feed more people who don't have enough to eat as it is? Patenting and profiting are a whole other kettle of fishtm, however.


No. It's just really ignorant. Try google
 
2012-02-19 11:05:11 AM

BlippityBleep: It creates a basic food dependency on genetic companies like Monsanto. Again, yes, it should freak you out.


I'll admit, I know very little about Monsanto and their practices. A quick google shows me that there's lots of reading up to do. I guess my idea of genetically modifying food is "let's use science to make wheat that will grow in arid areas so really really poor people won't continue starving to death when they shouldn't have to!" and not "let's patent plants so that only we can dictate who gets to use them, when, and for how much!".

colour me naive :/
 
2012-02-19 11:07:14 AM
encrypted-tbn2.google.com

Everybody comes for the Wheat
 
2012-02-19 11:08:47 AM

stirfrybry: xpennyroyaltyx: elysive: Soy and corn have a lot of GMO's . . .

Is it bad that the idea of genetically modified grains doesn't freak me out? Especially if we can, you know, genetically modify them to feed more people who don't have enough to eat as it is? Patenting and profiting are a whole other kettle of fishtm, however.

No. It's just really ignorant. Try google


Google brings up the standard poorly made "ooga booga monsanto" sites.
 
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