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2012-02-19 12:22:27 PM  

BurnShrike: OBBN: Not trying to be a jerk, but since when do you have to be an IT professional to know what printer ink cost? Do you have a printer connected to your home computer? Have you ever had to purchase a refill cartridge? If so, you would have to be short a few fries in your Happy Meal to not notice that printer ink is unbelievably expensive. So much so that at times it is less expensive to just purchase a new printer instead of refill cartridges.

[Facepalm.jpg]

Look, I'm fully aware of how expensive printer ink is. My previous post was so dripping in sarcasm that I figured even Farkers could figure it out. I'll try not to make the mistake again.

Subby took a good jab at the ink manufacturers but the headline really isn't HOTY-worthy.


Also, thanks to the anonymous Farker who gifted me a month of TF.


TIL: Thread-shiatting gets you a month of total Fark.
 
2012-02-19 12:25:18 PM  

xxwilkywayxx: foo monkey: BurnShrike: MoronLessOff: BurnShrike: star_topology: Well done. Headline of the year candidate, I say!

You have very low standards.

Either that, or you don't have a sense of humor....or you don't buy your own printer ink.

+1 subs.

Yeah, I don't have a sense of humour at all. I've never been known to make any jokes.
I also don't work in IT so I have no idea how expensive printer ink is.

The headline was amusing, but far far from HOTY material.

Agreed. Nobody was raped, molested, or mauled by a bear. The best headlines turn tragedy into an awful joke and we hate ourselves for laughing at it.

I'm not sure if we hate ourselves. I mean, laughing at others misfortune is a prerequisite of fark...


Past winnars for comparison:

2011: Baby Jesus stolen from church nativity. Maybe they should try nailing him down (submitter: Sybarite )

2010: Coup succeeds in detaining Niger president, exciting teabaggers who misread the headline
(submitter: crimsin23 )

2009: Gas blowing out exit brings 69 to a complete halt

2008: Five killed and dozens injured in perfume factory fire. EAU DE HUMANITY

2007: Bear attack victim had 'tender heart,' according to friends, family, bear

2006: Floodwaters send sharks inland. So beware of... hang on a sec, there's someone at the door

2005: Pope denounces materialism from balcony of marble, gold-domed building in midst of jewel-encrusted religious icons while wearing giant gold cross
(submitter: awkward saw)
 
2012-02-19 12:31:17 PM  

BurnShrike: OBBN: Not trying to be a jerk, but since when do you have to be an IT professional to know what printer ink cost? Do you have a printer connected to your home computer? Have you ever had to purchase a refill cartridge? If so, you would have to be short a few fries in your Happy Meal to not notice that printer ink is unbelievably expensive. So much so that at times it is less expensive to just purchase a new printer instead of refill cartridges.

[Facepalm.jpg]

Look, I'm fully aware of how expensive printer ink is. My previous post was so dripping in sarcasm that I figured even Farkers could figure it out. I'll try not to make the mistake again.

Subby took a good jab at the ink manufacturers but the headline really isn't HOTY-worthy.


Also, thanks to the anonymous Farker who gifted me a month of TF.


They did that to help you save up for a new ink cartridge.
 
2012-02-19 12:32:11 PM  

caramba421: LoneVVolf: Has it been mentioned yet that the ink is only a small portion of the cost of replacement cartridges? When you buy a replacement cartridge you are buying a device capable of precisely placing tens of thousands of microscopic drops of volatile ink onto a piece of paper. Per second. To within 1/1000th of an inch accuracy. The interface and jets for that are on the cartridge, not the printer.

Sounds like a pretty poor design decision. Is almost as if the manufacturers have some vested interest in causing you to continually replace the electronics when all you need is ink.


At this point a low-end ink printer's body is really just to hold the motors that push the actual printer around and feed it your paper, almost everything is right there on the cartridge. These for home use printers' biggest job is to 'not break' so that your opinion of the products is optimal. They're ads to help sell you the real money makers, the 300$/pop toner cartridges that are essentially tiny chunks of shredded plastic in the laser printer you use at work. Oh and those toner cartridges also have more then just the toner itself on board as well, same goal to ensure that parts known to wear down fast are swapped out automatically whenever you change the cartridge.
 
2012-02-19 12:33:13 PM  

LoneVVolf: Has it been mentioned yet that the ink is only a small portion of the cost of replacement cartridges? When you buy a replacement cartridge you are buying a device capable of precisely placing tens of thousands of microscopic drops of volatile ink onto a piece of paper. Per second. To within 1/1000th of an inch accuracy. The interface and jets for that are on the cartridge, not the printer.


that is only partially true. in many new consumer printers the print head is built into the printer and the cartridges are "dumb" cartridges. still the ink can be $16 per color. I do engineering support for a print company, work closely with the HP Indigo line (multi-million dollar printers). I was speaking to one the HP engineers and he told me that the reason ink was so costly was because of the development and quality control that went into processing it. trying to get ink that 1. flows without clogging, 2. dries quickly and 3 is a consistent color is much harder than you would think. That being said, it is still horribly overpriced because they loose so much money on the cost of the printers. Same HP engineer told me that the ink division was the only part of HP that actually made a profit.
 
2012-02-19 12:33:24 PM  

Glendale: I use a laser printer at home, so I probably buy a new toner cartridge once every 4 years at the rate I print things. It seems like laser printers are a hidden secret or something with all the money people like to pour into feeding inkjets.


Agreed. Everyone loves to think they need a colour printer though. Even when you remind them that in the past year they've only used it once. They still insist on it and buy an ink jet rather than a reliable laser.
 
2012-02-19 12:35:54 PM  

This Face Left Blank: TIL: Thread-shiatting gets you a month of total Fark.


For Fark's sake, I'm not thread-shiatting. I'm not attacking the headline or Subby in any way. The headline is decent. All I'm saying is that it's definitely not HOTY material.


vrax: They did that to help you save up for a new ink cartridge.


Well that's awfully nice of them. Only 8 more years of TF and I'll have saved enough to actually buy one!
 
2012-02-19 12:41:43 PM  

BurnShrike: This Face Left Blank: TIL: Thread-shiatting gets you a month of total Fark.

For Fark's sake, I'm not thread-shiatting. I'm not attacking the headline or Subby in any way. The headline is decent. All I'm saying is that it's definitely not HOTY material.


vrax: They did that to help you save up for a new ink cartridge.

Well that's awfully nice of them. Only 8 more years of TF and I'll have saved enough to actually buy one!


Man, you lucky duck! Me, I'm back to pen and paper until I can get a home equity loan. ;(
 
2012-02-19 12:47:33 PM  

BumpInTheNight: Oh and who here doesn't have a monochrome laser printer for their day to day text jobs? You don't? You're doing it wrong.


This. The $80 Brother laser printer I have was a much better investment than any previous ink jet I have owned. I've only replaced the cartridge once so far and that's only because I do a lot of printing for ebay shipping.
 
2012-02-19 01:00:02 PM  

Mister Peejay: cbackous: non toxic and water based.. yet hazmat situation?

You'd be surprised what is hazmat in large enough quantities.

Non toxic doesn't mean it's good to water your lawn with it. And speaking of... "water based" just means that it's harder to keep out of the environment.


There was a hazmat team out for a overturned milk tanker a few weeks back in COS. Fire department was explaining on the news that they had to keep the milk out of Fountain Creek since it was considered a hazardous material.

/milk
 
2012-02-19 01:03:46 PM  

Dinodork: Mister Peejay: cbackous: non toxic and water based.. yet hazmat situation?

You'd be surprised what is hazmat in large enough quantities.

Non toxic doesn't mean it's good to water your lawn with it. And speaking of... "water based" just means that it's harder to keep out of the environment.

There was a hazmat team out for a overturned milk tanker a few weeks back in COS. Fire department was explaining on the news that they had to keep the milk out of Fountain Creek since it was considered a hazardous material.

/milk


i39.tinypic.com
 
2012-02-19 01:08:23 PM  

inflatedKarma: LoneVVolf: Has it been mentioned yet that the ink is only a small portion of the cost of replacement cartridges? When you buy a replacement cartridge you are buying a device capable of precisely placing tens of thousands of microscopic drops of volatile ink onto a piece of paper. Per second. To within 1/1000th of an inch accuracy. The interface and jets for that are on the cartridge, not the printer.

that is only partially true. in many new consumer printers the print head is built into the printer and the cartridges are "dumb" cartridges. still the ink can be $16 per color. I do engineering support for a print company, work closely with the HP Indigo line (multi-million dollar printers). I was speaking to one the HP engineers and he told me that the reason ink was so costly was because of the development and quality control that went into processing it. trying to get ink that 1. flows without clogging, 2. dries quickly and 3 is a consistent color is much harder than you would think. That being said, it is still horribly overpriced because they loose so much money on the cost of the printers. Same HP engineer told me that the ink division was the only part of HP that actually made a profit.


Many people have used aftermarket ink "refills" that you inject into an empty cartridge. Cost of the raw INK in a bulk container is as low as $0.07/ml.

However, I've heard that if the ink ever runs out, the cartridge will be ruined and will not be fixed by refilling. The head overheats without the ink flowing through it, and is often left blindly printing automatically for some time after it goes dry. That least that's what I've heard, it may be untrue for modern models, or could be a rumor started by printer companies and may never have been true.

New Hotness:
lamicci.com

Continuous ink supply system (CISS). The head is fed ink from external tanks and will not need a messy refilling step in the middle of use. Can be aftermarket modded into a printer cartridge never designed for it. Most of these kits cost $25-$35 on eBay, and may come with hundreds of ml of ink.

For example:

$35 WITH 100ml*6= 600ml of ink. At $0.07/ml, the ink alone would cost $42 to buy in bulk, and a $2.3 billion if bought from HP or Canon in cartridges, so the kit's a no-brainer costwise.
 
2012-02-19 01:08:42 PM  
Wait, wait... let's leave this figure, claim it on insurance, take the taxes from the award... and boom, national deficit is (almost) completely erased. We just saved the economy!

If only it were that easy... Guarantee someone in DC will still find a way to squander that much and leave us even worse off.
 
2012-02-19 01:16:37 PM  

BumpInTheNight: Pfff just do what I do and buy a new tanker truck, way cheaper even if it comes half-empty.


Comment of the Week, even though it's Sunday!

/Not getting a kick, as stupid shiat Canon printer has started to make extraneous marks on copies.
 
2012-02-19 01:37:19 PM  

Mister Peejay: cbackous: non toxic and water based.. yet hazmat situation?

You'd be surprised what is hazmat in large enough quantities.

Non toxic doesn't mean it's good to water your lawn with it. And speaking of... "water based" just means that it's harder to keep out of the environment.


t0.gstatic.com
//the guys in the Graphic-art department all decked out for printing
 
2012-02-19 01:37:51 PM  
As someone who works with 55Gal drums of inkjet ink, I am not getting a kick... That's a metric Shiatstorm level of revenue that just disappeared... I hope it wasn't for Kodak printers somewhere, company is in enough trouble!

What a printer that takes 55 Gal drum refills might look like:

Big Printer
 
2012-02-19 01:41:22 PM  

BurnShrike: This Face Left Blank: TIL: Thread-shiatting gets you a month of total Fark.

For Fark's sake, I'm not thread-shiatting. I'm not attacking the headline or Subby in any way. The headline is decent. All I'm saying is that it's definitely not HOTY material.



Agreed. Submitter's cartridges have very sharp knees
 
2012-02-19 01:42:40 PM  
I am in the printing business. Ink isn't transported in 55 gallon barrels. It is stored in 2000 lb. totes or 10, 5 or 1lb. cans. Just sayin.
 
2012-02-19 01:42:45 PM  

Oznog:
New Hotness:
[lamicci.com image 500x500]

Continuous ink supply system (CISS). The head is fed ink from external tanks and will not need a messy refilling step in the middle of use. Can be aftermarket modded ...


yep, a mate's father uses an 8 (I think) colour CISS for his semi-professional (home, not for money) photo printing. Other than the pfaff it was to set up, he's been extremely happy with it, and the cost.

I buy 3rd party ink personally, £10 for a full set vs £40. For my purposes it works nicely.
 
2012-02-19 02:07:27 PM  

LoneVVolf: he interface and jets for that are on the cartridge, not the printer.


Not always. I own an HP office jet 7000 wide format printer, and the cartridges that hold the ink are "dumb", meaning the brains are in the separate printhead, installed in the printer. Yet the ink for said printer is more expensive than gold or platinum of the same weight.

What manufacturers should do is offer discounts to people who return cartridges for refill with their ink. The cost to reprogram and fill the old cartridge (which should take but a few seconds with automation) should be much less than manufacturing a new one from scratch, and even cutting the price by half should still give them a substantial profit.
 
2012-02-19 02:14:06 PM  

LoneVVolf: Has it been mentioned yet that the ink is only a small portion of the cost of replacement cartridges? When you buy a replacement cartridge you are buying a device capable of precisely placing tens of thousands of microscopic drops of volatile ink onto a piece of paper. Per second. To within 1/1000th of an inch accuracy. The interface and jets for that are on the cartridge, not the printer.


Depends on the model printer and manufacturer. On Canon printers, for instance, the ink tanks are just that - tanks. The print heads are a separate unit. The only electronic component in the tank is a little chip that exists solely to try and prevent you from refilling it. Fortunately, it's easy to reset them.

There is no valid engineering reason to integrate the print heads into the ink tank - it's done solely to drive up the cost of consumables. The profit margin on printer consumables is obscene.

You can get commercial inkjet printers that use bottled ink (around $10-$20 per liter), but they generally start around $10,000 and go up from there. You can get 3rd party continuous flow ink systems for some high-end photo printers, but even that will more than double the cost of the printer.
 
2012-02-19 02:14:53 PM  
Not having been around Fark every single second of every single minute of every single day, I enjoyed this headline, subby.

+1
 
2012-02-19 02:16:22 PM  
HP ink retails for upwards of $8000 per gallon. Given the insanely large number of cartridges (4 mL per cartridge), packaging, etc., the cost of the ink probably comes out to around $6000 per gallon for the actual ink. Tankers hold between 5,000 and 9,000 gallons, so the ink was "worth" $30 million to $54 million. Actual cost of the ink was probably no more than $40-50 thousand dollars.

But downloading songs is stealing!
 
2012-02-19 02:17:49 PM  

foo monkey: The best headlines turn tragedy into an awful joke and we hate ourselves for laughing at it.


I don't hate myself for laughing at anything.
 
2012-02-19 02:17:56 PM  
I have a laser printer, so I am getting a real kick out of these replies.

No, seriously. I'm an asshole. Schadenfreude is my favorite emotion.

/Ink is actually pretty cheap. Cartridges are expensive though. Continuous Feed Ink systems are the bomb.
 
2012-02-19 02:19:11 PM  

BurnShrike:
Ever refill your own ink? Get a bit on your hands? It'll be there for a week.



Or you could wash them more than 4 times a month, Mr. Poop Hands.
 
2012-02-19 02:19:53 PM  

foo monkey: Agreed. Nobody was raped, molested, or mauled by a bear. The best headlines turn tragedy into an awful joke and we hate ourselves for laughing at it.


Isn't being raped or molested by a bear enough for a HotY to feel bad about? At that point, isn't the mauling the least of it?
 
2012-02-19 02:22:00 PM  

Diogenes Teufelsdrockh: foo monkey: Agreed. Nobody was raped, molested, or mauled by a bear. The best headlines turn tragedy into an awful joke and we hate ourselves for laughing at it.

Isn't being raped or molested by a bear enough for a HotY to feel bad about? At that point, isn't the mauling the least of it?


Oblig Kids in the Hall: Surviving a bear attack (new window)
 
2012-02-19 02:56:36 PM  
CIS are junk. I've ruined three nice printers trying to cheap out on that Chinese Lead Garbage you can get on Ebay.

These days I just use Amazon.com and match my printer. Spend $12 instead of $50 on OEM. Carts are still throwaway, but it's $2 instead of $14.

I won't get involved with that junk CIS stuff again. Been there, done that. Ink in the printer, on the heads, on the paper, on my fingers. This was doing it right, with gloves.

You just can't account for all the gravity and vacuum variables with a poor product.

Do all the knockoffs you want, but make sure they are self contained chipped carts.
 
2012-02-19 02:59:11 PM  
Full disclosure: employee of Very Large Manufacturer of printing devices; I work with Commercial-market Large Format devices, which means the printers take up a small room and print between 54" wide and 126" wide. But the basic technologies in your letter-size desktop are the same.

There are two basic inkjet technologies: thermal, which uses an electrical resistor to vaporize a tiny bit of ink, the volume displacement of which ejects a drop out onto the paper; and piezo, which uses an electrical charge applied to a crystal that moves in such a way to eject the drop.

Thermal is pretty cheap but wears out eventually. Most consumer inkjets from HP, Canon, and Lexmark used this for a long time. In these cases the ink tank and the jetting parts are in a single piece. Piezo is more expensive, maybe more delicate, but more reliable too. Epson and some newer HP consumer models use this. In this case the printing part is separated from the ink reservoir. It's not impossible to have on off-board ink reservoir and a thermal printhead, too.

As someone already said, in the consumer market laser is cheaper per-page, but it has a higher initial cost for the hardware. Inkjet is much more expensive per-page, but the hardware is cheap to buy. If you print a lot, spend the money and get a laser. I myself have a workgroup-sized B&W laser to print 90% of my work, and a consumer-sized 6-color (CMYKcm) for the occasional color print.

Commercial inkjet also has economies of scale on the ink. If you buy 3 liters at a time, it's about $99/L.
 
2012-02-19 03:20:39 PM  

D_Evans45: So printer ink is roughly the street value of pot cocaine then.


/FTFY
 
2012-02-19 03:29:28 PM  

BumpInTheNight: Pfff just do what I do and buy a new tanker truck, way cheaper even if it comes half-empty.


It's sad, but actually true in some cases...
 
2012-02-19 03:34:23 PM  
What's a printer?
 
2012-02-19 03:38:41 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: What's a printer?


ak.buy.com

What's this "ink cartridge" thing people keep talking about?
 
2012-02-19 03:40:58 PM  

BurnShrike: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: What's a printer?

[ak.buy.com image 500x500]

What's this "ink cartridge" thing people keep talking about?


Okay, I see a plastic box. What's that thing coming out of it? Is that like, its display or something?
 
2012-02-19 04:02:11 PM  

xxwilkywayxx: OBBN: BurnShrike: MoronLessOff: BurnShrike: star_topology: Well done. Headline of the year candidate, I say!

You have very low standards.

Either that, or you don't have a sense of humor....or you don't buy your own printer ink.

+1 subs.

Yeah, I don't have a sense of humour at all. I've never been known to make any jokes.
I also don't work in IT so I have no idea how expensive printer ink is.

The headline was amusing, but far far from HOTY material.

Not trying to be a jerk, but since when do you have to be an IT professional to know what printer ink cost? Do you have a printer connected to your home computer? Have you ever had to purchase a refill cartridge? If so, you would have to be short a few fries in your Happy Meal to not notice that printer ink is unbelievably expensive. So much so that at times it is less expensive to just purchase a new printer instead of refill cartridges.

I'm not sure what kind of printer you have, but it is still cheaper to replace the ink cartridges in my printer than buy a new one... Not even close actually...



I have an older model HP 660c printer. Ink for it is 36.95 and 41.95 for b/w and color cartridges respectively. More than $70 dollars for ink? Yeah, I can get a new printer (which comes with ink) for less than I can refill that one. Thanks HP!
 
2012-02-19 04:15:59 PM  

dwlf: BurnShrike: This Face Left Blank: TIL: Thread-shiatting gets you a month of total Fark.

For Fark's sake, I'm not thread-shiatting. I'm not attacking the headline or Subby in any way. The headline is decent. All I'm saying is that it's definitely not HOTY material.


Agreed. Submitter's cartridges have very sharp knees


WIN!
 
2012-02-19 04:29:01 PM  

kompressor: I am in the printing business. Ink isn't transported in 55 gallon barrels. It is stored in 2000 lb. totes or 10, 5 or 1lb. cans. Just sayin.


For offset ink maybe... High speed inkjet ink is shipped in 55Gal Barrels

Examples off the top of my head: Kodak VX,VT,VL and Prosper lines, HP/PB Jetstream 300s
 
2012-02-19 04:37:35 PM  
Just bought a printer today, so really getting a kick...

Wasn't planning buying a printer. In Target, last year's desktop MFD was on clearance for $19.99. This MFR (not HP) sells the printer with full cartridges. The cost of the printer with the cartridges was half of what Target was selling the cartridges for, by themselves, on sale.
 
2012-02-19 04:43:40 PM  
Smitty found something we all agree on. Kudos, Sir/Maam!
 
2012-02-19 05:45:52 PM  
If you really use an inkjet printer often (but not enough to justify a laser), seriously go with BROTHER. Their printers actually still have some weight to them and don't feel like a plastic McDonald's toy. Aftermarket ink can be found for maybe $2 a cartridge (even cheaper if you buy a refill or continuous refill system), and they don't seem to highly discourage using them (no chips in the cartridges, etc.) Now the printers are a little more than the $15 HP special, but they are definitely a higher quality.

\Been using a Brother AIO one for over three years...printer (refurb) was only \Not real great for photos, but who still prints pictures? It works out cheaper to have Walgreens do them.

static.trustedreviews.com
 
2012-02-19 05:51:31 PM  
A good monochrome laser printer is much cheaper in the long run. Few people really need to print in color.
 
2012-02-19 06:00:43 PM  
Wouldn't "losses" be a better word than "damages"?

/just sayin'
 
2012-02-19 06:55:55 PM  
LOAD LEGAL
 
2012-02-19 07:25:04 PM  
PC Load Letter?

I work odd job IT stuff and the number of people that have AIO HP inkjets with trouble is astounding. I know someone that's on their 4th officejet. I tell them to quit buying slickly-sold HP monstrosities and either get a cheap BW laser or if they really care a color laser MF that's worth a darn. Printers represent at least half of what I do, usually HP's with their awful software.

Bought a Brother HL2040 (should have got the 2070N, grr) and it's not the best laser in the world but such an unsung hero at $120 or so.
 
2012-02-19 08:17:27 PM  
HOTY.

(We can vote on comments, BUT NOT ON THE HEADLINES??? That's just unfreakable!!!)
 
2012-02-19 08:44:17 PM  

Jodeo: HOTY.

(We can vote on comments, BUT NOT ON THE HEADLINES??? That's just unfreakable!!!)


Actually, TFers can vote for headlines. It's one of the perks of Totalfark. This one has 20 votes
 
2012-02-19 08:51:12 PM  

Jodeo: HOTY.

(We can vote on comments, BUT NOT ON THE HEADLINES??? That's just unfreakable!!!)


Totalfarkers can vote on headlines.
 
2012-02-19 10:02:56 PM  
Inkjet cartridges fail because the liquid solvent evaporates out through breather or "labyrinth" tubes to balance air pressure.

On Epson Stylus cartridges around 1999, you have to peel off the yellow seal over the breather tubes before installing in the printer. If you don't peel this off, a vacuum builds up inside the cartridge and ink won't come out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Labyrinth_Air_Channels_on_Epson_In k_ Tank.JPG

The capping station also contains breather tubes. Meaning, the capping station is not a perfect seal, and is specifically designed to let air in. (I tore apart an HP Business Inkjet and plan to upload pics of those capping station breather tubes to wikipedia sometime soon.)

Back with HP's old mid-1990's blue-top cartridges they put the cartridge in a plastic bag... perforated with holes. I still haven't any idea what the point of that was except so that the solvent would evaporate out even sitting in the original packaging on the shelf.

As far as sedimentation goes, that seems plausible.. The ink is almost never shaken so the solids settle out of the liquid solvent over time. But you'd think the back-forth movement on a printhead carriage would count as "shaking". Also, I have NEVER seen an ink tank or cartridge with the words "shake well before installation", so it sounds like this is just a bunch of deceptive bullshiat.
 
2012-02-20 05:56:23 AM  

Frederf: PC Load Letter?

I work odd job IT stuff and the number of people that have AIO HP inkjets with trouble is astounding. I know someone that's on their 4th officejet. I tell them to quit buying slickly-sold HP monstrosities and either get a cheap BW laser or if they really care a color laser MF that's worth a darn. Printers represent at least half of what I do, usually HP's with their awful software.

Bought a Brother HL2040 (should have got the 2070N, grr) and it's not the best laser in the world but such an unsung hero at $120 or so.


The Brother HL-5340D costs about $200. For that you get nice monochrome prints, duplexing, postscript 3 emulation, and networking. $50 more gets you wireless networking (which I've found to be a pain in the arse with printers). It takes standard 144-pin SODIMM memory. I love mine.
 
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