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2012-02-18 11:44:26 PM
Doctors at the hospital said humans would normally be able to survive for about four weeks without food. Besides eating snow, the man probably survived by going into a dormant-like state, physician Stefan Branth told Vasterbottens-Kuriren.
"A bit like a bear that hibernates. Humans can do that," he said. "He probably had a body temperature of around 31 degrees (Celsius) which the body adjusted to. Due to the low temperature, not much energy was used up."


A whole extra MONTH without food? How the fark was he awake when they found him?
 
2012-02-18 11:53:31 PM
bullshiat. You cant possibly go two months without food, come on.
 
2012-02-19 12:02:50 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-02-19 12:03:20 AM

DamnYankees: bullshiat. You cant possibly go two months without food, come on.


That's what I would have thought, too.
 
2012-02-19 12:20:22 AM

DamnYankees: bullshiat. You cant possibly go two months without food, come on.


Fashion model.
 
2012-02-19 12:32:38 AM
Depends how much he COULD move. if he could melt snow to drink he might survive that long.

/don't EAT snow however
 
2012-02-19 12:49:59 AM

RobertBruce: /don't EAT snow however


don't EAT yellow snow however
 
2012-02-19 01:08:24 AM
i3.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-02-19 01:28:58 AM

DamnYankees: bullshiat. You cant possibly go two months without food, come on.


Sure you can... People on hunger strikes and people who were POW's have done it before.

As long as you have water you can survive a pretty long time.

Can you imagine what the inside of that car smelled like though? ...

I don't even wanna try.
 
2012-02-19 01:42:08 AM
Clearly, his faith in God is what got his though this ordeel.
 
2012-02-19 01:44:22 AM
... I'm so trying hibernation next year. Think of all the money you'd save on heating, food.... my god, it's brilliant, why have we not tried this sooner? Yogi, I should never have doubted your wisdom.

/Off to find a pic-a-nic basket
//And maul a camper

pbfcomics.com
 
2012-02-19 01:47:11 AM

Guidette Frankentits: Clearly, his faith in God is what got his though this ordeel.


www.demotivation.us
"Fark that, don't look at me. It's my day off." **sips celestial pina colada**
 
2012-02-19 01:49:57 AM
Meh. I just spend 6 months in a leaky boat.
 
2012-02-19 01:50:01 AM
Why the man ended up under the snow in the forest remains unknown, police said.
 
2012-02-19 01:50:53 AM
Obviously he was in this car and ate the upholstery.

joelnicholsblog.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-02-19 01:51:46 AM
I'm sorry but this story but this story smacks of bullshiate to me. there is this thing that anyone who has had even basic survival training knows about called the "rule of threes." It is a rudimentary timeline of how long one can survive without the basic necessities. Three minutes without air, three days without water, three weeks without food. Granted there are some extreme outliers that exceed these standards, but by-and-large they apply to the average person. This guy is making crap up to sound impressive,

/Grylls is a dilletante and so full of shiate that he should be a fertilizer salesman
 
2012-02-19 01:52:27 AM

Shadow Blasko: DamnYankees: bullshiat. You cant possibly go two months without food, come on.

Sure you can... People on hunger strikes and people who were POW's have done it before.

As long as you have water you can survive a pretty long time.

Can you imagine what the inside of that car smelled like though? ...

I don't even wanna try.


Bobby Sands - 66 days
Francis Hughes - 59 days
Raymond McCreesh - 61 days
Patsy O'Hara - 61 days
Joe McDonnell - 61 days
Martin Hurson - 46 days
Kevin Lynch - 71 days
Kieran Doherty - 73 days
Thomas McElwee - 62 days
Michael Devine - 60 days

Laurence McKeown lasted 70 days before his family took him off the strike. He's still alive.
 
2012-02-19 01:57:23 AM

steerforth: Shadow Blasko: DamnYankees: bullshiat. You cant possibly go two months without food, come on.

Sure you can... People on hunger strikes and people who were POW's have done it before.

As long as you have water you can survive a pretty long time.

Can you imagine what the inside of that car smelled like though? ...

I don't even wanna try.

Bobby Sands - 66 days
Francis Hughes - 59 days
Raymond McCreesh - 61 days
Patsy O'Hara - 61 days
Joe McDonnell - 61 days
Martin Hurson - 46 days
Kevin Lynch - 71 days
Kieran Doherty - 73 days
Thomas McElwee - 62 days
Michael Devine - 60 days

Laurence McKeown lasted 70 days before his family took him off the strike. He's still alive.


The record, I believe, is 116 days (and surviving) by some of the lesser known members of the Indian peaceful resistance movement (Ghandi himself only lasted 21 days before the British force-fed him).
 
2012-02-19 01:57:55 AM
fta "He probably had a body temperature of around 31 degrees (Celsius) which the body adjusted to. Due to the low temperature, not much energy was used up."

img.photobucket.com
 
2012-02-19 01:59:20 AM
Bear Grylls? Wouldn't that poseur douchebag have checked into a 5-star hotel the minute the cameras turned off?
 
2012-02-19 01:59:27 AM
Could the cold have slowed down his metabolism enough to allow him to survive that long?
 
2012-02-19 02:00:00 AM
Many mammals do this all the time, so I don't see why people are freaking out about how this must be fake. The man's body temperature was lowered for an extended period of time, so it seems natural that his metabolism would slow down enough to survive for long period without food, and it's not like he was moving all that much if he was trapped in a car. He also had an ample supply of water(snow melt).
 
2012-02-19 02:00:38 AM
I spent all day yesterday watching a Survivorman marathon. Les Stroud is the man, Bear is a farking phony.
 
2012-02-19 02:00:47 AM

DamnYankees: bullshiat. You cant possibly go two months without food, come on.


There's no indication in the article, but it's not unreasonable to think he may have had some small snacks or something of the sort. Rationed carefully, even a tiny amount of food can make a huge difference.
 
2012-02-19 02:02:12 AM

DamnYankees: bullshiat. You cant possibly go two months without food, come on.


THIS.

I call TOTAL BS. If he was that weak and disoriented, and couldn't answer WHY he was there in the first place, then why would they take at face value any date that he gave? Maybe he was there 3 weeks and at that point was so dazed he was just spitting out dates. And humans can go into a dormant state "like bears"? "Humans can do that too." ORLY? This whole article is BULLLLSHHIIAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTT
 
2012-02-19 02:05:36 AM

batcookie: steerforth: Shadow Blasko: DamnYankees: bullshiat. You cant possibly go two months without food, come on.

Sure you can... People on hunger strikes and people who were POW's have done it before.

As long as you have water you can survive a pretty long time.

Can you imagine what the inside of that car smelled like though? ...

I don't even wanna try.

Bobby Sands - 66 days
Francis Hughes - 59 days
Raymond McCreesh - 61 days
Patsy O'Hara - 61 days
Joe McDonnell - 61 days
Martin Hurson - 46 days
Kevin Lynch - 71 days
Kieran Doherty - 73 days
Thomas McElwee - 62 days
Michael Devine - 60 days

Laurence McKeown lasted 70 days before his family took him off the strike. He's still alive.

The record, I believe, is 116 days (and surviving) by some of the lesser known members of the Indian peaceful resistance movement (Ghandi himself only lasted 21 days before the British force-fed him).


And neither the Indian protesters nor the Irish strikers were particularly well-nourished to begin with.
 
2012-02-19 02:08:18 AM

egg_mcmuffin: DamnYankees: bullshiat. You cant possibly go two months without food, come on.

THIS.

I call TOTAL BS. If he was that weak and disoriented, and couldn't answer WHY he was there in the first place, then why would they take at face value any date that he gave? Maybe he was there 3 weeks and at that point was so dazed he was just spitting out dates. And humans can go into a dormant state "like bears"? "Humans can do that too." ORLY? This whole article is BULLLLSHHIIAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTT


In remote areas as this obviously was you could get a rough date merely based on when the last time was that the road was passable or from the depth of snow on the vehicle. Use your head muscle, it aint exactly CSI.
 
2012-02-19 02:09:33 AM

egg_mcmuffin: DamnYankees: bullshiat. You cant possibly go two months without food, come on.

THIS.

I call TOTAL BS. If he was that weak and disoriented, and couldn't answer WHY he was there in the first place, then why would they take at face value any date that he gave? Maybe he was there 3 weeks and at that point was so dazed he was just spitting out dates. And humans can go into a dormant state "like bears"? "Humans can do that too." ORLY? This whole article is BULLLLSHHIIAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTT


I want to believe....
 
2012-02-19 02:10:10 AM
fark me, dnrtfa.
 
2012-02-19 02:11:49 AM
Man survives for two months in snowbound car, eat that, Bear Grylls

alright, subby. diagram that sentence.
 
2012-02-19 02:13:26 AM

lisarenee3505:
FAAAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!


Did you miss the part where they said he was found emaciated (new window)?

How do you know that he didn't weigh 300lbs before?

This is entirely possible, just not very probable.
 
2012-02-19 02:13:55 AM

egg_mcmuffin: DamnYankees: bullshiat. You cant possibly go two months without food, come on.

THIS.

I call TOTAL BS. If he was that weak and disoriented, and couldn't answer WHY he was there in the first place, then why would they take at face value any date that he gave? Maybe he was there 3 weeks and at that point was so dazed he was just spitting out dates. And humans can go into a dormant state "like bears"? "Humans can do that too." ORLY? This whole article is BULLLLSHHIIAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTT


A lot of you don't seem to know anything at all about human thermoregulation. When in dire circumstances such as these, the metabolism DOES slow to almost a grinding halt, and we ARE in fact capable of non-shivering thermogenesis, meaning, like a hibernating bear, we convert stored brown fat directly into heat.
 
2012-02-19 02:13:58 AM

steerforth: Shadow Blasko: DamnYankees: bullshiat. You cant possibly go two months without food, come on.

Sure you can... People on hunger strikes and people who were POW's have done it before.

As long as you have water you can survive a pretty long time.

Can you imagine what the inside of that car smelled like though? ...

I don't even wanna try.

Bobby Sands - 66 days
Francis Hughes - 59 days
Raymond McCreesh - 61 days
Patsy O'Hara - 61 days
Joe McDonnell - 61 days
Martin Hurson - 46 days
Kevin Lynch - 71 days
Kieran Doherty - 73 days
Thomas McElwee - 62 days
Michael Devine - 60 days

Laurence McKeown lasted 70 days before his family took him off the strike. He's still alive.


Is your point that you can go this long without food, and the reason you used these people as an example? You do realize that they all DIED as a result of their lack of food, right? Besides McKeown? And they were all right at the 2 month mark, in a warm prison with a toilet and fresh air, etc. I don't see your point, if anything it shows that this story is BULLSHIAT.
 
2012-02-19 02:17:12 AM

egg_mcmuffin: steerforth: Shadow Blasko: DamnYankees: bullshiat. You cant possibly go two months without food, come on.

Sure you can... People on hunger strikes and people who were POW's have done it before.

As long as you have water you can survive a pretty long time.

Can you imagine what the inside of that car smelled like though? ...

I don't even wanna try.

Bobby Sands - 66 days
Francis Hughes - 59 days
Raymond McCreesh - 61 days
Patsy O'Hara - 61 days
Joe McDonnell - 61 days
Martin Hurson - 46 days
Kevin Lynch - 71 days
Kieran Doherty - 73 days
Thomas McElwee - 62 days
Michael Devine - 60 days

Laurence McKeown lasted 70 days before his family took him off the strike. He's still alive.

Is your point that you can go this long without food, and the reason you used these people as an example? You do realize that they all DIED as a result of their lack of food, right? Besides McKeown? And they were all right at the 2 month mark, in a warm prison with a toilet and fresh air, etc. I don't see your point, if anything it shows that this story is BULLSHIAT.


See my point about the ones that lasted 116 days and survived. It depends on the person, there are many factors involved, but it is possible. You're going to have to live with that, even though you seem to have a vested interest in not learning your human biology for some reason...
 
2012-02-19 02:20:08 AM

egg_mcmuffin: steerforth: Shadow Blasko: DamnYankees: bullshiat. You cant possibly go two months without food, come on.

Sure you can... People on hunger strikes and people who were POW's have done it before.

As long as you have water you can survive a pretty long time.

Can you imagine what the inside of that car smelled like though? ...

I don't even wanna try.

Bobby Sands - 66 days
Francis Hughes - 59 days
Raymond McCreesh - 61 days
Patsy O'Hara - 61 days
Joe McDonnell - 61 days
Martin Hurson - 46 days
Kevin Lynch - 71 days
Kieran Doherty - 73 days
Thomas McElwee - 62 days
Michael Devine - 60 days

Laurence McKeown lasted 70 days before his family took him off the strike. He's still alive.

Is your point that you can go this long without food, and the reason you used these people as an example? You do realize that they all DIED as a result of their lack of food, right? Besides McKeown? And they were all right at the 2 month mark, in a warm prison with a toilet and fresh air, etc. I don't see your point, if anything it shows that this story is BULLSHIAT.


Key word is "warm". This guy was in a situation where his body temperature was lowered for an extended period of time, so it's to be expected that metabolism was much much lower than normal.
 
2012-02-19 02:20:31 AM
i47.photobucket.com
 
2012-02-19 02:22:01 AM
No one is asking it so I will...

Seems the guy wasn't that far out of the way, is it really that impossible to dig your way out?
 
2012-02-19 02:22:04 AM

lisarenee3505: I'm sorry but this story but this story smacks of bullshiate to me. there is this thing that anyone who has had even basic survival training knows about called the "rule of threes." It is a rudimentary timeline of how long one can survive without the basic necessities. Three minutes without air, three days without water, three weeks without food. Granted there are some extreme outliers that exceed these standards, but by-and-large they apply to the average person. This guy is making crap up to sound impressive,


You're basing all this, despite what the doctors and professionals say, on a basic survival training maxim?

His body adapted to the low temperature, so he essentially entered a hibernation stage where all he probably did was slept (or at least very sedentary, as much movement as you can have in a car) during that entire time.
 
2012-02-19 02:23:47 AM

egg_mcmuffin: steerforth: Shadow Blasko: DamnYankees: bullshiat. You cant possibly go two months without food, come on.

Sure you can... People on hunger strikes and people who were POW's have done it before.

As long as you have water you can survive a pretty long time.

Can you imagine what the inside of that car smelled like though? ...

I don't even wanna try.

Bobby Sands - 66 days
Francis Hughes - 59 days
Raymond McCreesh - 61 days
Patsy O'Hara - 61 days
Joe McDonnell - 61 days
Martin Hurson - 46 days
Kevin Lynch - 71 days
Kieran Doherty - 73 days
Thomas McElwee - 62 days
Michael Devine - 60 days

Laurence McKeown lasted 70 days before his family took him off the strike. He's still alive.

Is your point that you can go this long without food, and the reason you used these people as an example? You do realize that they all DIED as a result of their lack of food, right? Besides McKeown? And they were all right at the 2 month mark, in a warm prison with a toilet and fresh air, etc. I don't see your point, if anything it shows that this story is BULLSHIAT.


The story may very well be bullshiat, and I expect it is, but while it is improbable that a person can last two months without food, it is not impossible.
 
2012-02-19 02:24:57 AM
Did he drink the blinker fluid?
 
2012-02-19 02:30:40 AM
Submitted this with a cooler headline.
 
2012-02-19 02:37:21 AM
Lady fingers... They taste just like lady fingers
 
2012-02-19 02:37:31 AM

lousyskater: Many mammals do this all the time, so I don't see why people are freaking out about how this must be fake. The man's body temperature was lowered for an extended period of time, so it seems natural that his metabolism would slow down enough to survive for long period without food, and it's not like he was moving all that much if he was trapped in a car. He also had an ample supply of water(snow melt).


Did the sun melt the snow?

Because this comes down to a basic thermal energy problem. Presuming the car was out of gas and the temps stayed freezing, every single joule of heat comes from body fat or protein burning up. The car itself is a poor insulator, the sleeping bag relatively quite good, of course. These are hard to calculate.

But NOT water, that's easy to calculate!
1L of water= 1kg

Heat of fusion (energy needed to melt):
334 kJ/kg

Body temp=31C
4.186 kj/(kg-°C) *31C=134 kJ/kg

Thermal energy used to bring 1L of 0C ice to 31C reduced body temp=468 kJ

1 gram of fat=37.8 kJ

468kJ/(37.8kJ/g of fat)
=12.4grams of fat needed to melt and heat 1L of water

Hmm, if he's doing nothing but sleeping, maybe he COULD survive on 1L of water per day, which would be an additional 1.64 lbs of fat burned over 60 days to melt and warm 1L per day. Actually, looks fairly inconsequential then, I'm surprised.
 
2012-02-19 02:38:06 AM

erik-k: No one is asking it so I will...

Seems the guy wasn't that far out of the way, is it really that impossible to dig your way out?


Yeah. my thought too. One article said he was more than a kilometer off the main road which technically could mean 800 miles, but usually it means a little over a kilometer.

Kind of sad nobody reported him missing. Or maybe he was an asshole.
 
2012-02-19 02:41:14 AM
I think I'll go on a hunger strike. I could stand to lose 200lbs or so. Wonder how fast I could drop that & just stay in my bed, reading Fark all day....
 
2012-02-19 02:48:28 AM
He ate the leather seats.
 
2012-02-19 02:50:48 AM
He was waiting for Saab replacement parts.
 
2012-02-19 02:51:40 AM
1 pound of fat= 3500 calories. Probably not burning more than 1500-2000 calories a day if your just sitting. 120,000 calories for 60 days= 34 pounds of fat. Most farkers could live for years!
 
2012-02-19 02:54:49 AM

batcookie: egg_mcmuffin: DamnYankees: bullshiat. You cant possibly go two months without food, come on.

THIS.

I call TOTAL BS. If he was that weak and disoriented, and couldn't answer WHY he was there in the first place, then why would they take at face value any date that he gave? Maybe he was there 3 weeks and at that point was so dazed he was just spitting out dates. And humans can go into a dormant state "like bears"? "Humans can do that too." ORLY? This whole article is BULLLLSHHIIAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTT

A lot of you don't seem to know anything at all about human thermoregulation. When in dire circumstances such as these, the metabolism DOES slow to almost a grinding halt, and we ARE in fact capable of non-shivering thermogenesis, meaning, like a hibernating bear, we convert stored brown fat directly into heat.


Also perhaps related to the mammalian dive reflex we share with marine mammals, in which the body shunts blood to the body core when exposed to low temperatures, and slows metabolism drastically, which is what can allow cold-water drowning victims to be revived sometimes hours after they technically drowned.
 
2012-02-19 02:55:36 AM

PsychoLaurie: I think I'll go on a hunger strike. I could stand to lose 200lbs or so. Wonder how fast I could drop that & just stay in my bed, reading Fark all day....


Oh come on, you'd get to the first bacon thread and cave...

/as would we all
 
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