Parents trying to introduce their kids to a popular concept. Stop the farking presses, these douchebags are trying to connect with their children and I am incredibly dissatisfied with their methods!

Yeah screw hipsters I get my pop culture top-down, from a huge media conglomerate like an adult. People shouldn't spontaneously start enjoying things I don't know about, because makes me feel insecure and old. It's way easier for me poke fun than to take extra time discovering what I like on my own.

Besides, it seems like they are having too good a time and may even be making fun of me somehow. I'll just wait until their style is watered down enough for me to feel comfortable co-opting it. In the meantime: SCREW YOU HIPSTERS

I don't want to deal with kids in my coffeehouses. They don't belong there. I'm trying to read.

herrDrFarkenstein: I may be an athiest, but I thank the monks for their coffee and their beer.

Indeed. And their initial forays into genetic theory. Well, at least that one monk...

Ah, it makes me long for the day when candy cigarettes, wax beer bottles filled with syrup, and other items designed to inure children to the pleasures of legal intoxicants were commonplace.

People have been carrying children to church for ages - and that's several orders of magnitude worse for the kid than a decaf drink.

Wayne 985: wyltoknow: Parents trying to introduce their kids to a popular concept. Stop the farking presses, these douchebags are trying to connect with their children and I am incredibly dissatisfied with their methods!

They're douchebags for giving coffee to infants.

Shmeh, the ones I've seen have been nothing but milk foam with chocolate topping - no different than a hot chocolate without chocolate in the milk. It's basically so the kid stops trying to drink mom's coffee, because kids love copying their parents, and they only cost 50c, so cheaper than getting a hot chocolate. Explain how that's a bad idea?

Well, it would give them an early education in quantum physics, specifically Heisenberg's principle. Because after a few of those babyccinos you wouldn't be able to determine both their position and momentum at the same time.

....the story says that a shot of decaf espresso contains less....

Why the HELL would anyone want to drink decaf espresso.

what is the news here? Parents with no concept on how to actually raise another functional human being to self sufficiency or blighted trends? Maybe it's just about people living their lives and including their children.

Really? Cappuccinos make you a douchebag?

Takitron: Her mom got her hooked on the Chai Lattes they have there.

Masala chai is just chai. It's not "chai latte" any more than café au lait is "café au lait latte," nor is it "chai tea" any more than café au lait is "café au lait coffee." It's just chai, full stop.

If, for some reason, you want to use extra syllables, then call it "masala chai."

Sorry, pet peeve.

The only thing I find wrong is that stupid parents are spending 7 bucks on a kids drink too shut them up. They seriously lack such parental control that instead of teaching thier kids how to behave in a public place they bribe them with foam.

How about this? "Mommy is gonna sit here and have a drink for 15 minutes. Here's some milk. You need to stay quite and behave.....Or I'll take you home and paint your backside red!!!"

It's sad seeing parents that have already let their toddlers know they are in control. They seriously already lost a battle of will with a 3 year-old.

buckler: maddermaxx: Wayne 985: wyltoknow: Parents trying to introduce their kids to a popular concept. Stop the farking presses, these douchebags are trying to connect with their children and I am incredibly dissatisfied with their methods!

They're douchebags for giving coffee to infants.

Shmeh, the ones I've seen have been nothing but milk foam with chocolate topping - no different than a hot chocolate without chocolate in the milk. It's basically so the kid stops trying to drink mom's coffee, because kids love copying their parents, and they only cost 50c, so cheaper than getting a hot chocolate. Explain how that's a bad idea?

FTA:

The concept first started in Australia, where the term babyccino denotes macchiato-like drinks with a shot of decaf espresso topped with steamed milk and froth, or an entirely hot milk-based drink topped with cinnamon or chocolate powder that's kid-friendly.

"decaf" espresso still contains caffeine.

To be fair, I have NEVER seen a babychino (which is a silly name for it) with actual coffee in it, decaf or otherwise, anywhere I've been here in Australia. I'll admit I've only bothered to check when I was out with my cousins, and they had their young kids with them. Perhaps some people in America heard of the idea, and because it had the "chino" suffix, thought it had to contain coffee, which is pretty stupid. Young children, in my experience, tend to hate the bitter taste of coffee anyway. That might not true for all young kids, of course, but I'm sure most would far prefer just foamed milk with chocolate to actual coffee.

Johnny Bananapeel: Started drinking coffee at about 6 or 7, but back then it was Maxwell House or Folgers and not very strong. Smoking Marlboros at 12. Being a kid was not as big a deal as it is now.

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You know, I never really got the habit of smoking, even when I was surrounded by smokers (most of my friends smoke, my parents smoke) I never quite liked it.

Started drinking coffee at about 6 or 7, but back then it was Maxwell House or Folgers and not very strong. Smoking Marlboros at 12. Being a kid was not as big a deal as it is now.

The last thing a kid needs is caffeine, but then again, that's what I think.

/Coffe should be black as night, hot as hell, and sweet as love
//But I'm a whiny biatch when it comes to coffee, so I add milk

I thought a babycino was just foamed milk, maybe with chocolate powder? Seems fine to me..

itazurakko: FormlessOne: candy cigarettes

Also this, speaking of the Shirley Temple.

Can you even get candy cigarettes now? I suppose maybe there's no market as the image of smoking has changed. The old ones with that nice first puff of powdered sugar were great.

What about bubble gum cigars, or bubble gum cut up like chewing tobacco?

I found some last summer at variuous 7-11s. Just like I remembered, red-dyed "burning" end and all. They were in a display of "nolstagia" candy. I felt old but bought my candy cigarettes and Zots anyway.

/CSS

whatshisname: This trend should spread to bars as well.

Sadly around here it has. At least when the bar is attached to some form of kitchen. It's especially fun when you start using adult language at the TV 'cause your team did something, or you have an adult conversation with another adult and the parent gets all atomic explody on you for using such language near their snowflake. I'm sure the bartenders also love the idea that bar seats are taken by a kid. Probably does wonders for their tips. I also love the idea that little baby diaperass may have left something behind after the wonderful parent left it on the bar.

/wishes the laws would go back to no kids seated at a bar. Period.

TheShavingofOccam123: buckler: Imaginary Cheese Jedi: itazurakko: Bedstead Polisher: What next for kids? Mocktini bars?

You never had a Shirley Temple?

Behold a site that sells non alcoholic (new window) whiskey, rum, cognac, tequila and vodka, the site mainly caters to British Muslims

Alcohol-free vodka? I'm pretty sure that runs out of my kitchen tap.

There used to be gin-flavored syrup for Italian ices. No alcohol but it tasted a lot like gin from what I hear. I think the Germans loved it. But it is out of production.

I stopped at a neighborhood Italian bar in Queens a few times, and noticed a bottle of artichoke liqueur on the shelf. Never had the balls to try it, but I kind of wish I had now. I was only reminded because I find the taste of gin repellent.

/apropos of nothing.

itazurakko: FormlessOne: candy cigarettes

Also this, speaking of the Shirley Temple.

Can you even get candy cigarettes now? I suppose maybe there's no market as the image of smoking has changed. The old ones with that nice first puff of powdered sugar were great.

What about bubble gum cigars, or bubble gum cut up like chewing tobacco?

They're still made. Check out Old Time Candy.

itazurakko: Bedstead Polisher: coffee culture

But what's so terrible about it? It's renting a table to study or read somewhere that's not at home (so you're not distracted with your computer/videogames/whatever) but you can run into friends, you don't have to keep utterly silent, and you can eat/drink while you read.


Can you see 4-8 year olds doing this? There's nothing wrong with coffee culture for adults. It just seems silly for kids. If kids want a quiet place to read, they'll do so at home. I don't see children being anything but hyper little spazzes in a coffeeshop for kids.

Bedstead Polisher: coffee culture

But what's so terrible about it? It's renting a table to study or read somewhere that's not at home (so you're not distracted with your computer/videogames/whatever) but you can run into friends, you don't have to keep utterly silent, and you can eat/drink while you read.

I agree with you on mocktails though (unless it's just the pure virgin stuff that is just some mix of juice or pop). Fake beer I have NEVER understood the attraction of it. I like beer well enough but absolutely the buzz is part of the attraction.

/otherwise I'll stick to coffee
//or maybe wheat tea if it's late

itazurakko: Bedstead Polisher: What next for kids? Mocktini bars?

You never had a Shirley Temple?

I used to love Shirley Temples as a kid. Was I told it was a "non-alcoholic drink"? Not at all. It was a drink we had a restaurants while the grown-ups had water or pop.

I think my objection to this is introducing kids to a coffee culture. It's silly.

And I've actually been to a Muslim wedding that had an abundance of mocktails. I had some out of curiosity, but to be honest, most alcohol tastes terrible, especially when mixed into a cocktail. Unless it's going to give me a buzz, I wouldn't willingly drink anything that tasted that bad.

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: discount sushi: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I'm confused about what makes this a "hipster" trend? Cappuccinos, coffee shops, and doing things with your kids all seem like generic norms of western society.

It also involves Brooklyn. That in and of it self makes it a hipster thing.

I thought they called it "Wiliamsburg" now?

If they are bringing kids into coffee shops it is probably Park Slope.

Imaginary Cheese Jedi: itazurakko: Bedstead Polisher: What next for kids? Mocktini bars?

You never had a Shirley Temple?

Behold a site that sells non alcoholic (new window) whiskey, rum, cognac, tequila and vodka, the site mainly caters to British Muslims

Alcohol-free vodka? I'm pretty sure that runs out of my kitchen tap.

solitary: buckler: The concept first started in Australia, where the term babyccino denotes macchiato-like drinks with a shot of decaf espresso topped with steamed milk and froth, or an entirely hot milk-based drink topped with cinnamon or chocolate powder that's kid-friendly.


They're wrong. In Australia it's a little cup with milk froth. They've probably done it in Italy forever.

Oh, I'm completely fine with that. Tasty, slightly sweet frothy milk with a bit of cocoa or a shot of syrup; it's the coffee I'd object to.

don't feed your children decaf if your going to feed them coffee give them REAL coffee
/hope your walls are made of rubber
//farking hipsters
/// if you want to be called hipsters get a new hip
// R4ND0MN3ss
/ troll'n with slashies

itazurakko: FormlessOne: candy cigarettes

Also this, speaking of the Shirley Temple.

Can you even get candy cigarettes now? I suppose maybe there's no market as the image of smoking has changed. The old ones with that nice first puff of powdered sugar were great.

What about bubble gum cigars, or bubble gum cut up like chewing tobacco?

They're called candy sticks now.

I haven't seen Big League Chew in a while tho.

FormlessOne: candy cigarettes

Also this, speaking of the Shirley Temple.

Can you even get candy cigarettes now? I suppose maybe there's no market as the image of smoking has changed. The old ones with that nice first puff of powdered sugar were great.

What about bubble gum cigars, or bubble gum cut up like chewing tobacco?

buckler: The concept first started in Australia, where the term babyccino denotes macchiato-like drinks with a shot of decaf espresso topped with steamed milk and froth, or an entirely hot milk-based drink topped with cinnamon or chocolate powder that's kid-friendly.


They're wrong. In Australia it's a little cup with milk froth. They've probably done it in Italy forever.

maddermaxx: Wayne 985: wyltoknow: Parents trying to introduce their kids to a popular concept. Stop the farking presses, these douchebags are trying to connect with their children and I am incredibly dissatisfied with their methods!

They're douchebags for giving coffee to infants.

Shmeh, the ones I've seen have been nothing but milk foam with chocolate topping - no different than a hot chocolate without chocolate in the milk. It's basically so the kid stops trying to drink mom's coffee, because kids love copying their parents, and they only cost 50c, so cheaper than getting a hot chocolate. Explain how that's a bad idea?

FTA:

The concept first started in Australia, where the term babyccino denotes macchiato-like drinks with a shot of decaf espresso topped with steamed milk and froth, or an entirely hot milk-based drink topped with cinnamon or chocolate powder that's kid-friendly.

"decaf" espresso still contains caffeine.

Just briefly, for everyone hyperventilating about giving caffeine to toddlers, there is no coffee in a babycino. It's just milk froth with a little chocolate sprinkled on top.

Unless the barista is a complete idiot.

Or some kind of evil genius.

Shaggy_C: Hipsters don't have children; they have abortions.

Bedstead Polisher: What next for kids? Mocktini bars?

You never had a Shirley Temple?

whatshisname: This trend should spread to bars as well.

"Babytini" was the first thing I thought of. Surely there must be some way of letting kids pretend to drink absinthe or kava-kava that's not illegal. Hey, kava-kava IS legal for babies, and we recently had a Kava bar open here, plus it contains actual psychoactive compounds to keep the baby numb and quiet! Now we just need to teach the baby about ancient South Pacific cultures so they can pontificate about it as they drink!

Here ya go! (new window)

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I'm confused about what makes this a "hipster" trend? Cappuccinos, coffee shops, and doing things with your kids all seem like generic norms of western society.

It also involves Brooklyn. That in and of it self makes it a hipster thing.

I had babcinos as a girl and my son has them now, it's froathy milk and hot chocolate powder on the top. No decaf that's just wrong. There doing it wrong, I tell you.

Hipsters don't have children; they have abortions.

And I don't see what's wrong with this. Most urban storefronts have doggy versions of their foodstuffs; why not have something similar for the messier yet more interesting pet upgrade?

austerity101: Seems more like yuppies to me.

hipsters = yuppies - motivation.+ entitlement issues

LovingTeacher: My favorite coffee house has a sign that says "Unattended children will be given an espresso and a free kitten"

The coffee house near my mother's place had that sign when I was growing up. It backfired as I was desperate to try an espresso and really wanted a kitten, so I tried to escape my mother at every opportunity. I think they regretted that sign.

/mom always got us hot chocolate
//I don't think caffeine would have made things worse in any form
/still think coffee tastes icky and prefer hot cocoa

Mija: Water, juice and milk made my children happy. Decaf is not "fake coffee". Children do not need to be rnning things like coffee and soda through their kidneys.

I'll leave it as an exercise for future clinical trials to reveal whether ingesting significant volumes of a concentrated fructose solution on a several-times-daily basis is healthier than ingesting miniscule volumes of a concentrated caffeine solution on a once-daily to several-times-daily basis. My money is on "No".

mccallcl: Yeah screw hipsters I get my pop culture top-down, from a huge media conglomerate like an adult. People shouldn't spontaneously start enjoying things I don't know about, because makes me feel insecure and old. It's way easier for me poke fun than to take extra time discovering what I like on my own.

Besides, it seems like they are having too good a time and may even be making fun of me somehow. I'll just wait until their style is watered down enough for me to feel comfortable co-opting it. In the meantime: SCREW YOU HIPSTERS

how to be a hipster douchebag 101:

1.create a false dichotomy claiming all other tastes are corporate whores
2. claim that only hipsters have spontaneous fun
3. accuse others of poking fun at you while at the same time thumbing your nose at those same people in step 1 and 2.
4. claim hipsters are the only group of people who have a good time, even though most of the time their conversations makes drying paint cry with boredom
5. try to take credit for hipster style, even though hipster style is really just taken from others and used 'ironically' (5 is really Karl Rove grade shiat here)

Yup, you passed! good jorb!

The important question is, how do they take it?

I was overusing "hipster" long before it was "cool."

Ed Willy: Eh, I've seen parents take their kids to coffee shops for years and usually give them a hot chocolate. Plus, no one would complain about giving children tea, so why should coffee be different?

Seriously, this is new?

Most coffeehouses have plenty of MILK on the premises already, kids can drink it plain or get it frothed up with a bit of vanilla in it (cool, because most people can't do that at home, so it's a novelty!) or whatever, plus most places also sell juice of various kinds. That's all in addition to the hot chocolate and chocolate milk.

The coffeehouse I go most often has tons of people studying in it, sometimes there's kids with parents too, also reading or coloring or whatever, as long as they're being decent quietish patrons who fit in, doesn't bother me.

9beers: wyltoknow: Parents trying to introduce their kids to a popular concept.

Sitting around with hipsters drinking overpriced coffee is popular?

You know, going out for coffee and cigarettes used to be really fun, but then hipster douchebaggery ruined it all. :-(

LordOfThePings: Won't somebody please think of Ralph Macchiato?!

RIP Scott Baio!!

will you farking old people stop calling people doing new things "hipsters"

it only makes you look like a cranky yells at cloud old man

Better fake coffee like concoctions than soda.

Cappuccinos after breakfast is a total douche move. Babyccinos anytime is simply lame.

It's either this or go-go juice.