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2012-02-18 01:49:57 PM
4 votes:
"ethnic group X for candidate Y" is not racist no matter the values of X and Y. it is no different than "Veterans for Y" or "steel workers for Y".. it is a group.


i'm sorry that you seem to be unable to differentiate between when liberals actually criticize someone for sounding racist and when you imagine liberals making that criticism, perhaps you should get some therapy for your inability to separate fantasy from reality.
2012-02-18 07:36:56 PM
2 votes:
Privileged is invisible to those who possess it. That's why White Conservatives are always so up in arms over the idea that minorities might band together to support each other. They've lived their entire lives benefiting from the privilege of being White in a country where Whites don't even have to give a name to their universal support of each other, and so the moment blacks or women or gays attempt to back each other up, the doughy white guys of the nation start screaming bloody murder.

Funny how Republicans see nothing at all wrong with the fact that every single President prior to Obama has been a white male. Because in their minds, that's just how life should be.
2012-02-18 07:28:43 PM
2 votes:

bulldg4life: Shaggy_C: "African American" is a euphemism for skin tone. "Irish American" is not. No one ever talks about the "African American community" and includes in that statement white South African immigrants or North African Arabs. You can't be this obtuse

The African American community or black community is connected to the black american that can trace their heritage back to slavery and that's it.



Obama's daddy came from Africa, and returned. Obama can claim no "heritage" of his ancestors being enslaved - at least not in America. So according to the above, he cannot identify as an "African American" even though he truly IS 1/2 African and 1/2 American.

Aren't politically correct semantics silly?


/Can't we just call a spade a spade?
2012-02-18 06:13:35 PM
2 votes:
This thread is a train wreck.
2012-02-18 05:52:27 PM
2 votes:

Tatsuma: MeinRS6: That doesn't make sense to me. The context of the thread is about the names of the groups. Names that contain current numerical minorities(in the national sense, in some places blacks are not in the minority at all) are considered acceptable, where one containing anything about whites would not be acceptable. Like I said, it's a long standing double standard. And a poor one at that.

I would agree that it is, in fact, a double standard. The thing is, double standards are not inherently wrong.

When you have a group that is clearly in a position of power (and there is no denying that, as a whole, caucasians Jews in Israel are in a position of power versus African-Americans non-Jews), just because African-Americans non-Jews can organize to try and advance their position in society doesn't mean that the group in power gets to get advocacy group to keep those advantages.



I rearranged those word just a bit for you, brah.

How do you thing that argument would float in Israel?


/Hypocrisy FTW
2012-02-18 04:37:30 PM
2 votes:

Tatsuma: Cry away, crackers, cry away from your privileged position in society. The woes of the better-off breaks my heart.

PS you already have a white supremacist candidate, his name his Ron Paul.


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What a "white" supremacist candidate might look like.


/BTW, glad to see that you aren't claiming to be an "American" anymore
2012-02-18 04:28:21 PM
2 votes:
The difference between "black people for x" and "white people for x" is that black people did not invent the institution of "being black".

"Blackness" was invented by white people to distinguish who could be enslaved and who couldn't.

White people are not entitled to invent "the black community", use it to their own ends of slavery and Jim Crow, and then dissolve the community at will when it's no longer useful as a tool of oppression.
2012-02-18 04:26:50 PM
2 votes:

Commander Lysdexic: Ishkur: FloydA: Rincewind53: Somacandra:
Its awesome to be able to head out for a midnight snack at a convenience store without arousing suspicion based on my perceived race.

It's awesome to be able to walk past a group of cops without every head turning in my direction.

It's awesome to walk past a middle aged couple and have the woman not clutch her purse tightly to her side.

It's awesome to walk into a shop and have the small asian woman behind the counter smile and greet me instead of stare at me cautiously and slowly move her hand beneath the counter.

It's awesome to be able to walk up to a complete stranger and talk to them without them freaking out or looking terrified.


Ah, but you have to be the right kind of whitey!

Add a couple tattoos, some long hair, and a beard, and you're automatically the kind of whitey that will be greeted with terrified looks, suspicion, and clutched purses!
2012-02-18 02:43:01 PM
2 votes:

Dusk-You-n-Me: "Why don't they have a WHITE history month?? Why don't they have NON-handicapped parking spaces? Why's there no cemetery for ALIVE people??" -@woodmuffin


My mom told me as a kid, when I'd ask "They have Mother's Day, Father's Day, Grandparent's Day, why don't they have Kid's Day?" She'd answer "Because every day is kid's day."
2012-02-18 02:29:30 PM
2 votes:
"Vote for me, if for no other reason than that we share the same skin color."
2012-02-18 02:26:13 PM
2 votes:
Ya know, Subby does have a point...
2012-02-19 06:15:01 PM
1 votes:

quoinguy:

Flip the races around. Let's have white-only clubs because sometimes whites don't want to be surrounded by blacks all day. Awww HELL no--that's racist!.


The population of the united states is 72 percent white (223.6 million), 13 percent black (38.9 million), 5 percent Asian (14.7 million), and 16 percent Hispanic (50.5 million). Link

72 percent white. Think about that. That's more than 7 in 10 people. Hawaii, New Mexico, and Oregon are only 3 percent black. Utah, New Hampshire, Maine, South Dakota and North Dakota are only 2 percent black, Wyoming, Vermont and Montana are less than 1 percent. There are still whole towns without a single black person, whole states where the entire black population could fit on a high school football field (Vermont's population is 626,431, and Wyoming's is 568,158. That's 3,572 black people for Vermont, and 3,373 black people for Wyoming)

Yet because of these numbers it is nearly impossible for a black person, if they chose to, to not be around any white people - unless they stayed at home, didn't go to work or school, didn't shop or party or eat, and lived the life of a recluse.

Is it really that difficult to not see a black person here if you really didn't want to? Seriously?
2012-02-19 04:24:46 PM
1 votes:

quoinguy:
Poop on all groups who try to separate themselves from society at large.


This is where you fail.

The people who choose to form these groups are ALREADY separate from "society at large", because that society has been white, male, straight, "christian", and upper middle class as the default. They group because not only is there strength in numbers, but there is the cultural stability the default group is constantly trying to either water down, denigrate or eliminate and replace with their own.

Once those who are separate are treated like they are not separate, then they won't be separate.
2012-02-19 12:13:55 AM
1 votes:

Amos Quito: FloydA: Subby doesn't know what the word "racist" means, I see.

Actually it would have been more accurate to say that Obama's message was a plea for in-group altruism: A call for America's blacks to support him BECAUSE he is "black".

Can you imagine a scenario where such behavior might be frowned on in today's America?


Sure - in today's America, there's a pretty large contingent of crybaby white boys who look for excuses to imagine that they are they victims, rather than the benificiaries, of racism; It's called "convenient self-delusion".
When one was born on third base, it is pleasant to imagine that one has, in fact, hit a triple.
2012-02-18 11:55:10 PM
1 votes:
Frankly, as a Native American, I could not give a crap who gets elected.

I just thought it would be cheap race-baiting, and interesting to see the responses to the thread, if, indeed it did get a green light.

I'm not a psychologist, but I do play one on TV.
Which I don't own.

/.Subby.
//we still have concentration camps reservations.
/// Elect a human with a human agenda, please, this time?

Or keep on farkin' that chicken.
2012-02-18 10:37:12 PM
1 votes:

FloydA: quoinguy:
quoinguy:

Poop on all groups who try to separate themselves from society at large.


Does the existence of women's restrooms bother you this much too?
If not, can you explain why?


Women's bathrooms? That's the beginning of what you thought was a cogent point?

I'll answer it anyway. No, they don't bother me because I accept the fact that most men, including myself, would love to peek at chicks in various states of undress. They should have separate places to drop their underthings around their ankles for relieving themselves.



So, you recognize that some Americans have a legitimate reason to want to separate themselves from society at large for some purposes. That's a good first step. I notice that you phrase their right to have women only restrooms entirely in terms of what you want, not in terms of what they want, but that's still a good first step.

Now can you try to imagine, for a moment, why black Americans might want to have some places that are set aside for themselves, where they are not surrounded by whites?

Obviously, they'd all love to have you around to bathe in the joy of being in your presence, so don't take this personally, but try to imagine that maybe, just possibly, blacks don't want to be surrounded by white people 24/7. Sometimes, it's nice to be the majority, even if it is only a geographically localized majority. Sometimes they just don't want you around.

Hard to believe, I know. It requires you to stretch your mind, almost to the breaking point, to imagine a scenario in which you, personally, are not the center of everyone else's world. But just pretend that other people's lives don't revolve around you, personally, just for a minute. Imagine if they had their own feelings, wants and desires. Just try.



Flip the races around. Let's have white-only clubs because sometimes whites don't want to be surrounded by blacks all day. Awww HELL no--that's racist!

Niche marketing, separatist clubs, and illogical liberal thinking keeps the issues alive that have been dead since I have been on this earth.

Your logic breaking down my point is mind-alteringly poor. If I had it my way we'd have clothing optional for every female rating a 6 or above, but I seriously doubt they would like that. Using your lame example about women's bathrooms, they really are for their benefit, not mine.

The current era of highlighting people's differences is worse for integration and judging people for their actions, rather than appearances, than anything I remember in my lifetime. Sure, my kids have expansions in their history books including the contributions of women and minorities, and that's as it should be. Historical issues of importance and scientific discoveries are valid no matter what the ethnic heritage of the person happens to be. A dedicated Black History month, Black advocacy groups, minority set asides, and everything else punctuating differences is a load of faux-guilty crap.

MLK would probably be crying about the lack of serious headway liberalism has made about judging by character rather than skin color.
2012-02-18 10:09:44 PM
1 votes:

Amos Quito: So Obama is NOT "African-American" then.

Got it.

Now go watch the video "President Obama Announces the 2012 Launch of African Americans for Obama" again.


Just did. Never once did he self-identify as African-American. In the past, I have heard him refer to himself as black though. And though those two things are not exactly the same, the treatment they receive oftentimes is. Thus the appropriate use of the word "we."
2012-02-18 08:56:48 PM
1 votes:

Amos Quito: Corvus: And whats really sad is so many people think it's ok for other some people to be proud of their culture and history like Irish-American, German-American, etc... But when people from African-American or even American Hispanics do it, they are attacked for it.


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Really Irish Americans are attacked for Irish parades, cultural celebrations like st patricks day or supporting candidates? Can you link me to some article about this?
2012-02-18 08:10:13 PM
1 votes:
Wow, some people are crazy dense.

Most immigrant populations change to America on purpose. They brought their culture, traditions, language, etc. They settled with others from their homeland, where they maintained a national identity while forging a new American identity. It's why we have Irish in Boston, Italians in New York, Chinese in San Francisco, Germans in Milwaukee, etc. etc. Their descendents today still sometimes identify with these heritages, and describe themselves as Irish-American or whatever.

Blacks in America do not a similar experience at all. Slaves did not immigrate willingly, they were not allowed to bring property, they were intentionally mixed with others from all over Africa with the express intent of destroying any idea of identity or culture. They were forced to change names, religions, languages. Their culture was purposely ripped from them to make easier to manage as slaves. No records were kept.

For black Americans, it's impossible to have a national identity like the Irish or Germans. That's not an accident. It was on purpose. It's impossible by design.

What they do have is a concept of shared experience with other American descendents of slaves. An American identity based not on country of origin (which again, is intentionally impossible to identify) but on historical experience.

THAT's why, in America, African-American is EXACTLY the same as Irish-American or Chinese-American. To claim any different is to be incredibly ignorant or willfully obtuse.
2012-02-18 07:37:22 PM
1 votes:

Corvus: You never said:

Shaggy_C: "African American" is a euphemism for skin tone.

Then someone must be hacking your account?


Sigh. You're being purposefully obtuse again, Corvus. Obviously in the context of this thread we are talking about black people in the United States. Can you ever argue honestly?
2012-02-18 07:17:04 PM
1 votes:

Corvus: Irish-American just as much as "African-american" is. Don't force me to walk through your stupidity once more.


"African American" is a euphemism for skin tone. "Irish American" is not. No one ever talks about the "African American community" and includes in that statement white South African immigrants or North African Arabs. You can't be this obtuse.
2012-02-18 07:17:00 PM
1 votes:

Tatsuma:
so yeah either we are truly two different people living in two different countries OR I have two computers set up next to each others, where I am logged onto Fark, I am the faster poster of all time, can multitask the shiat out of stupid conversations AND I sometimes forget which computer I'm typing on

It's a retarded derail that is really just boring at this point.


Or, just two different browsers open on the same computer.

/Sessions, how do they farking work?
2012-02-18 07:10:40 PM
1 votes:

Corvus: So is this according to subtardmitter are these also deemed "racist" by your fantasy of the liberal world?


Irish is a "race" now?
2012-02-18 06:39:20 PM
1 votes:

culebra: BloodySaxon: culebra: BloodySaxon: culebra: BloodySaxon: As a white person, I enjoy the privilege of sniveling idiots repeating sociology 101 bunk about how my life was preordained by skin color.

You're the real victim here.

Yes, that's definitely what I just said.


/wow

You seem quite easily offended.

I may have misread your intent, but the invoking "____ privilege" is the lazy way of silencing people. "Male privilege" is what is used to charge a male in New York State with rape based only on the fact that the female was drunk during sex, regardless of whether the male initiated contact or was also inebriated. Did you see the idiotic Dawkins fiasco last year? The idea of a man inviting a woman back to his place for coffee on an elevator is a disgusting intimidation factor because men are stronger than women, or hold a higher place in society than women, or because there are a lot of horrible males out there, so we're all guilty.. Propositioning someone (innocently or not) is actually abuse of male privilege.

White privilege is used as a hammer to justify racist government policies under the guise of leveling the playing field. We can discuss empathy and life experience all we like, but once "white privilege" is invoked, it means that no white man has ever suffered greater indignities than other ethnic groups. It means some idiot up-thread can say if you're not a playboy and you're white, you failed hard at life.

And it almost seems like I have to qualify it now, even though I shouldn't. Europeans were absolute MONSTERS to American Indians, Africans, Chinese, and whatever group of people they could dehumanize and harness for profit and power. America has a very troubled past with race relations (and our diversity puts greater challenges on us than almost any other nation today). At the end of the day, what does pointing out so called "white privilege" lead to? Is it just for ignorant mouthbreathers to check themselves and their stations before they assume to ...


I think to pretend there aren't often serious detriments associated with ethnicity, and bad actors in all walks of life is serious naive, borderline idiotic (which places many of us at odds with family, of course), and it IS nice to have a little dosage of self awareness in life. My beef is not with that. It's with this linguistics shell game that justifies segregating and grouping and classifying ethnicity instead of individualism. This just opens the door for the next elected clown, unelected bureaucrat, or influential donor to abuse yet another dangerous legislative tool.

Impressionable college kids ate that crap up a few years ago. i can't imagine it's any different now.
2012-02-18 05:43:58 PM
1 votes:

Amos Quito: [www.thisshirtrocks.com image 200x200]

Wouldn't it be cool if he could just run on the merits of what has done for ALL Americans?

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Race card is race card no matter who plays it.

Show a little class, Obama.


I think a dead Bin Laden was a gift for all of us, does that count?
2012-02-18 05:28:16 PM
1 votes:
As a white person, I enjoy the privilege of sniveling idiots repeating sociology 101 bunk about how my life was preordained by skin color.
2012-02-18 04:55:34 PM
1 votes:

Gwyrddu: Shaggy_C: It's sad that Obama actually has to go to such lengths to get African Americans to actually vote for him. If he had done more for the African American community since taking office they would already be coming out to support him in droves.

Why are you assuming that African American's aren't supporting Obama? Just because Obama has asked for their support just doesn't mean he wasn't going to get it anyway, it could be he's just not taking anything for granted. If putting up a video like that can increase voter turnout regardless of high initial support it is worth doing.

Democrats, and Obama in particular have all gotten an amazing amount of African-American support in the past, and as long as Republican continue to cater to racists they will in the future.

What exactly did you expect Obama to have done for the African-American community anyway that would have mattered in terms of support?


Exactly. The Democratic Party could put up virtually anyone and be reasonably assured of getting 90% of the African-American vote. Of course, Obama is more concerned with increasing the percentage of that particular population that actually casts votes. It was at a record high in 2008 and I imagine the president would like to beat that number.

You'd have to be an idiot troll to opine that any of this means that Obama fears losing that bloc in November.
2012-02-18 04:40:11 PM
1 votes:
It's sad that Obama actually has to go to such lengths to get African Americans to actually vote for him. If he had done more for the African American community since taking office they would already be coming out to support him in droves.

Somacandra: Its awesome to be able to head out for a midnight snack at a convenience store without arousing suspicion based on my perceived race.


Ever been a white teenager wearing a hoodie? It isn't a race thing. If you're part of a group that is a statistically higher risk, you are treated as such.
2012-02-18 04:38:48 PM
1 votes:

stoli n coke: missiv: [images.nbra.info image 500x159]
Blacks for White Nationalism has a long standing.

Hey, now. The Republican Party is not racist at all. Why, some of their best friends are Herman Cain.


I loved the interview with Herman, when asked what he thought of the civil rights marches. He fondly remembered listening to his father's words, telling him to stay away from those troublemakers. I haven't heard him deny one extra right gained. Chasing white women, in the South, without the fear of a lynching is pretty high on his perk's list. I'm just saying.
2012-02-18 04:37:54 PM
1 votes:

FloydA: quoinguy: Hypocrisy knows no bounds. Wasn't the goal to be that no-one should care about skin color or minor differences? Let's address that by encouraging little groups full people who highlight differences.

"We must be EQUAL--unless it serves our purposes."

And a politician-sponsored group that would be called something like "European-Americans for Clinton" or "Whiteys for ousting Obama" would be frowned upon.

Poop on all groups who try to separate themselves from society at large.

/Voting for Obama because he's half-black is just as racist as voting against him because he's "only" half-white.


Does the existence of women's restrooms bother you this much too?
If not, can you explain why?




Women's bathrooms? That's the beginning of what you thought was a cogent point?

I'll answer it anyway. No, they don't bother me because I accept the fact that most men, including myself, would love to peek at chicks in various states of undress. They should have separate places to drop their underthings around their ankles for relieving themselves.

/I have no idea why you would compare females pooping with black people voting.
2012-02-18 04:34:45 PM
1 votes:
Has anyone felt the need to point out that the whole "being black" thing is the only way for many people to group themselves in some sort of ethnic group?

For some reason, I am not really sure, large percentages of African Americans in America can only trace their heritage back 150 years or so. It must be some big coincidence.

I would assume that they would love to elevate their nationalit or ethnicity, but they've got jack else to go on besides skin color.
2012-02-18 04:32:27 PM
1 votes:

MeinRS6: It's a long standing double standard. There is no "White Americans for candidate Y" ever.


It's for same reason people no longer sport Charlie Chaplin mustaches or are named Hitler. 'White Americans for candidate Y' causes everyone to raise their eyebrow and wonder whether you are connected to a white supremist group. Blaming liberals for that is stupid, blame racist groups for successfully branding themselves with the white label.

Besides, you can just substitute whatever ethnic group you actually mean and get the same result you were after. There is nothing wrong for example with "Irish for candidate x" or "Italian for Candidate x" or "protestant/catholic for candidate x".
2012-02-18 04:31:36 PM
1 votes:

cman: Ya know, Subby does have a point...


Right on top of his head.
2012-02-18 04:27:20 PM
1 votes:

sendtodave: Ishkur: FloydA: Rincewind53: Somacandra:
Its awesome to be able to head out for a midnight snack at a convenience store without arousing suspicion based on my perceived race.

It's awesome to be able to walk past a group of cops without every head turning in my direction.

It's awesome to walk past a middle aged couple and have the woman not clutch her purse tightly to her side.

It's awesome to walk into a shop and have the small asian woman behind the counter smile and greet me instead of stare at me cautiously and slowly move her hand beneath the counter.

It's awesome to travel all over the world and find that everyone wants to be me.


It's awesome to never have to wonder why I didn't get that apartment, best car deal, or verdict from the jury.
2012-02-18 04:17:46 PM
1 votes:
Offended White People, get back to me after blacks have used you as farm equipment and kept you from education for five hundred years or so.
2012-02-18 04:04:32 PM
1 votes:

mediaho: Of course if a white candidate did this, it would be racist

Of course it would be. Do you need this explained to you again?

If you are having difficulty being a middle-class, white, American male born in the late 20th century, you are an absolute disgrace, a failure as a human being, and you would have starved to death long ago in any other era or country.

Oh look, another thread with both Tatsuma and MeinRS6. What are the chances?


Half the thread is him talking to himself. It's really unbelievable to try to comprehend what kind of sick mental disorder one has to have to try to pretend to be two separate people, and then spend an inordinate amount of time conversing between your alternate personalities on an internet message board. Un-farking-believable.

/Guess that explains some of his political positions though.
//The result of some mental disorder.
2012-02-18 04:04:05 PM
1 votes:

MeinRS6: Tatsuma: MeinRS6: Wait, what?

No, I mean 95% of people who call for advocacy groups for caucasians are in fact racists.

I don't know about that stat, but I would say that it also applies to people that set up black only groups. It is about division, regardless of the skin color of the person setting up the group. That's why it is a double standard that should be done away with.


See, that's how you switch logins effectively.
2012-02-18 03:59:34 PM
1 votes:

FloydA: Rincewind53: Somacandra:
Its awesome to be able to head out for a midnight snack at a convenience store without arousing suspicion based on my perceived race.

It's awesome to be able to walk past a group of cops without every head turning in my direction.

It's awesome to walk past a middle aged couple and have the woman not clutch her purse tightly to her side.


It's awesome to walk into a shop and have the small asian woman behind the counter smile and greet me instead of stare at me cautiously and slowly move her hand beneath the counter.
2012-02-18 03:58:50 PM
1 votes:
Hypocrisy knows no bounds. Wasn't the goal to be that no-one should care about skin color or minor differences? Let's address that by encouraging little groups full people who highlight differences.

"We must be EQUAL--unless it serves our purposes."

And a politician-sponsored group that would be called something like "European-Americans for Clinton" or "Whiteys for ousting Obama" would be frowned upon.

Poop on all groups who try to separate themselves from society at large.

/Voting for Obama because he's half-black is just as racist as voting against him because he's "only" half-white.
2012-02-18 02:49:51 PM
1 votes:

Tatsuma: MeinRS6: Wait, what?

No, I mean 95% of people who call for advocacy groups for caucasians are in fact racists.


I don't know about that stat, but I would say that it also applies to people that set up black only groups. It is about division, regardless of the skin color of the person setting up the group. That's why it is a double standard that should be done away with.
2012-02-18 02:27:16 PM
1 votes:
Also the thing is that 95% of people who call for those groups are, in fact, white supremacists.
2012-02-18 02:24:04 PM
1 votes:

MeinRS6: That doesn't make sense to me. The context of the thread is about the names of the groups. Names that contain current numerical minorities(in the national sense, in some places blacks are not in the minority at all) are considered acceptable, where one containing anything about whites would not be acceptable. Like I said, it's a long standing double standard. And a poor one at that.


I would agree that it is, in fact, a double standard. The thing is, double standards are not inherently wrong.

When you have a group that is clearly in a position of power (and there is no denying that, as a whole, caucasians are in a position of power versus African-Americans), just because African-Americans can organize to try and advance their position in society doesn't mean that the group in power gets to get advocacy group to keep those advantages.
2012-02-18 02:19:27 PM
1 votes:

Tatsuma: MeinRS6: It's a long standing double standard. There is no "White Americans for candidate Y" ever.

You don't need a group that supports your candidate when you're in power.


That doesn't make sense to me. The context of the thread is about the names of the groups. Names that contain current numerical minorities(in the national sense, in some places blacks are not in the minority at all) are considered acceptable, where one containing anything about whites would not be acceptable. Like I said, it's a long standing double standard. And a poor one at that.
2012-02-18 02:02:32 PM
1 votes:

Kazan: "ethnic group X for candidate Y" is not racist no matter the values of X and Y. it is no different than "Veterans for Y" or "steel workers for Y".. it is a group.


i'm sorry that you seem to be unable to differentiate between when liberals actually criticize someone for sounding racist and when you imagine liberals making that criticism, perhaps you should get some therapy for your inability to separate fantasy from reality.


It's a long standing double standard. There is no "White Americans for candidate Y" ever.

One of liberals' favorite political tools is identity politics. Divide and conquer. We would all be much better off if citizens of this country just viewed themselves as Americans. If you disagree with that sentiment, then consider how you would react to a "White Americans for candidate Y" group.
2012-02-18 01:29:44 PM
1 votes:
Subby doesn't know what the word "racist" means, I see.
2012-02-18 01:15:45 PM
1 votes:
Blacks can't be racist. Please remember that and everything will be just fine.
 
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