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2012-02-18 04:08:29 PM

Ishkur: FloydA: Rincewind53: Somacandra:
Its awesome to be able to head out for a midnight snack at a convenience store without arousing suspicion based on my perceived race.

It's awesome to be able to walk past a group of cops without every head turning in my direction.

It's awesome to walk past a middle aged couple and have the woman not clutch her purse tightly to her side.

It's awesome to walk into a shop and have the small asian woman behind the counter smile and greet me instead of stare at me cautiously and slowly move her hand beneath the counter.


It's awesome to be able to walk up to a complete stranger and talk to them without them freaking out or looking terrified.
 
2012-02-18 04:08:44 PM

MithrandirBooga: mediaho: Of course if a white candidate did this, it would be racist

Of course it would be. Do you need this explained to you again?

If you are having difficulty being a middle-class, white, American male born in the late 20th century, you are an absolute disgrace, a failure as a human being, and you would have starved to death long ago in any other era or country.

Oh look, another thread with both Tatsuma and MeinRS6. What are the chances?

Half the thread is him talking to himself. It's really unbelievable to try to comprehend what kind of sick mental disorder one has to have to try to pretend to be two separate people, and then spend an inordinate amount of time conversing between your alternate personalities on an internet message board. Un-farking-believable.

/Guess that explains some of his political positions though.
//The result of some mental disorder.


Gives me an idea. Make a new fark handle. Share it among a group of politcally and economically disparate group of people. Watch the fun unfold as everyone is confused by rapid changes in tone, style, and opinion of the handle in question.

3) Profit
 
2012-02-18 04:09:05 PM

quoinguy: Hypocrisy knows no bounds. Wasn't the goal to be that no-one should care about skin color or minor differences? Let's address that by encouraging little groups full people who highlight differences.

"We must be EQUAL--unless it serves our purposes."

And a politician-sponsored group that would be called something like "European-Americans for Clinton" or "Whiteys for ousting Obama" would be frowned upon.

Poop on all groups who try to separate themselves from society at large.

/Voting for Obama because he's half-black is just as racist as voting against him because he's "only" half-white.



Does the existence of women's restrooms bother you this much too?
If not, can you explain why?
 
2012-02-18 04:10:42 PM

Ishkur: FloydA: Rincewind53: Somacandra:
Its awesome to be able to head out for a midnight snack at a convenience store without arousing suspicion based on my perceived race.

It's awesome to be able to walk past a group of cops without every head turning in my direction.

It's awesome to walk past a middle aged couple and have the woman not clutch her purse tightly to her side.

It's awesome to walk into a shop and have the small asian woman behind the counter smile and greet me instead of stare at me cautiously and slowly move her hand beneath the counter.


It's awesome to travel all over the world and find that everyone wants to be me.
 
2012-02-18 04:12:07 PM
There are African- Americans for.... groups for every single GOP candidate. (I have no idea why.) There must be something different about Obama from the GOP candidates. I can't quite put my finger on what makes hime different.
 
2012-02-18 04:16:30 PM
Link (new window)

Aziz Ansari about slumdog millionaire. Relevant.
 
2012-02-18 04:17:46 PM
Offended White People, get back to me after blacks have used you as farm equipment and kept you from education for five hundred years or so.
 
2012-02-18 04:18:59 PM

Mistymtnhop: Yes, I know. I feel so terrible for how the White folks have been treated all these years.


It's been a burden.
 
2012-02-18 04:24:46 PM

sendtodave: Ishkur: FloydA: Rincewind53: Somacandra:
Its awesome to be able to head out for a midnight snack at a convenience store without arousing suspicion based on my perceived race.

It's awesome to be able to walk past a group of cops without every head turning in my direction.

It's awesome to walk past a middle aged couple and have the woman not clutch her purse tightly to her side.

It's awesome to walk into a shop and have the small asian woman behind the counter smile and greet me instead of stare at me cautiously and slowly move her hand beneath the counter.

It's awesome to travel all over the world and find that everyone wants to be me.


It's awesome that when I drive slowly through nice neighborhoods, people assume I'm real estate shopping, not casing the neighborhood.

It's awesome that for every dumb mistake I've made, the criticism has always been leveled at the way I acted without the addition of "...like so many of them do"
 
2012-02-18 04:26:50 PM

Commander Lysdexic: Ishkur: FloydA: Rincewind53: Somacandra:
Its awesome to be able to head out for a midnight snack at a convenience store without arousing suspicion based on my perceived race.

It's awesome to be able to walk past a group of cops without every head turning in my direction.

It's awesome to walk past a middle aged couple and have the woman not clutch her purse tightly to her side.

It's awesome to walk into a shop and have the small asian woman behind the counter smile and greet me instead of stare at me cautiously and slowly move her hand beneath the counter.

It's awesome to be able to walk up to a complete stranger and talk to them without them freaking out or looking terrified.


Ah, but you have to be the right kind of whitey!

Add a couple tattoos, some long hair, and a beard, and you're automatically the kind of whitey that will be greeted with terrified looks, suspicion, and clutched purses!
 
2012-02-18 04:27:20 PM

sendtodave: Ishkur: FloydA: Rincewind53: Somacandra:
Its awesome to be able to head out for a midnight snack at a convenience store without arousing suspicion based on my perceived race.

It's awesome to be able to walk past a group of cops without every head turning in my direction.

It's awesome to walk past a middle aged couple and have the woman not clutch her purse tightly to her side.

It's awesome to walk into a shop and have the small asian woman behind the counter smile and greet me instead of stare at me cautiously and slowly move her hand beneath the counter.

It's awesome to travel all over the world and find that everyone wants to be me.


It's awesome to never have to wonder why I didn't get that apartment, best car deal, or verdict from the jury.
 
2012-02-18 04:27:54 PM
www.liquideggproduct.com

Take that blah people
 
2012-02-18 04:28:21 PM
The difference between "black people for x" and "white people for x" is that black people did not invent the institution of "being black".

"Blackness" was invented by white people to distinguish who could be enslaved and who couldn't.

White people are not entitled to invent "the black community", use it to their own ends of slavery and Jim Crow, and then dissolve the community at will when it's no longer useful as a tool of oppression.
 
2012-02-18 04:28:21 PM
It would only be racist if you know haven't read a history textbook or anything.
 
2012-02-18 04:29:15 PM
images.nbra.info
Blacks for White Nationalism has a long standing.
 
2012-02-18 04:31:36 PM

cman: Ya know, Subby does have a point...


Right on top of his head.
 
2012-02-18 04:32:27 PM

MeinRS6: It's a long standing double standard. There is no "White Americans for candidate Y" ever.


It's for same reason people no longer sport Charlie Chaplin mustaches or are named Hitler. 'White Americans for candidate Y' causes everyone to raise their eyebrow and wonder whether you are connected to a white supremist group. Blaming liberals for that is stupid, blame racist groups for successfully branding themselves with the white label.

Besides, you can just substitute whatever ethnic group you actually mean and get the same result you were after. There is nothing wrong for example with "Irish for candidate x" or "Italian for Candidate x" or "protestant/catholic for candidate x".
 
2012-02-18 04:33:37 PM

missiv: [images.nbra.info image 500x159]
Blacks for White Nationalism has a long standing.


Hey, now. The Republican Party is not racist at all. Why, some of their best friends are Herman Cain.
 
2012-02-18 04:34:41 PM

stoli n coke: missiv: [images.nbra.info image 500x159]
Blacks for White Nationalism has a long standing.

Hey, now. The Republican Party is not racist at all. Why, some of their best friends are Herman Cain.


and alan keyes!
 
2012-02-18 04:34:45 PM
Has anyone felt the need to point out that the whole "being black" thing is the only way for many people to group themselves in some sort of ethnic group?

For some reason, I am not really sure, large percentages of African Americans in America can only trace their heritage back 150 years or so. It must be some big coincidence.

I would assume that they would love to elevate their nationalit or ethnicity, but they've got jack else to go on besides skin color.
 
2012-02-18 04:36:07 PM
Whoa...the iPhone correct attacked me. iPhone is black, I'm white.

Coincidence or continuing black on white violence?
 
2012-02-18 04:37:30 PM

Tatsuma: Cry away, crackers, cry away from your privileged position in society. The woes of the better-off breaks my heart.

PS you already have a white supremacist candidate, his name his Ron Paul.


cdn.bikyamasr.com

What a "white" supremacist candidate might look like.


/BTW, glad to see that you aren't claiming to be an "American" anymore
 
2012-02-18 04:37:54 PM

FloydA: quoinguy: Hypocrisy knows no bounds. Wasn't the goal to be that no-one should care about skin color or minor differences? Let's address that by encouraging little groups full people who highlight differences.

"We must be EQUAL--unless it serves our purposes."

And a politician-sponsored group that would be called something like "European-Americans for Clinton" or "Whiteys for ousting Obama" would be frowned upon.

Poop on all groups who try to separate themselves from society at large.

/Voting for Obama because he's half-black is just as racist as voting against him because he's "only" half-white.


Does the existence of women's restrooms bother you this much too?
If not, can you explain why?




Women's bathrooms? That's the beginning of what you thought was a cogent point?

I'll answer it anyway. No, they don't bother me because I accept the fact that most men, including myself, would love to peek at chicks in various states of undress. They should have separate places to drop their underthings around their ankles for relieving themselves.

/I have no idea why you would compare females pooping with black people voting.
 
2012-02-18 04:38:48 PM

stoli n coke: missiv: [images.nbra.info image 500x159]
Blacks for White Nationalism has a long standing.

Hey, now. The Republican Party is not racist at all. Why, some of their best friends are Herman Cain.


I loved the interview with Herman, when asked what he thought of the civil rights marches. He fondly remembered listening to his father's words, telling him to stay away from those troublemakers. I haven't heard him deny one extra right gained. Chasing white women, in the South, without the fear of a lynching is pretty high on his perk's list. I'm just saying.
 
2012-02-18 04:40:08 PM
Of course if a white candidate did this, it would be racist

How so? African Americans for Scott Brown sounds kinda cool.

/And implausible
 
2012-02-18 04:40:11 PM
It's sad that Obama actually has to go to such lengths to get African Americans to actually vote for him. If he had done more for the African American community since taking office they would already be coming out to support him in droves.

Somacandra: Its awesome to be able to head out for a midnight snack at a convenience store without arousing suspicion based on my perceived race.


Ever been a white teenager wearing a hoodie? It isn't a race thing. If you're part of a group that is a statistically higher risk, you are treated as such.
 
2012-02-18 04:42:08 PM
Obama 2012: He's not bugfark insane.
 
2012-02-18 04:48:54 PM

Shaggy_C:
Ever been a white teenager wearing a hoodie?


Yes.

It isn't a race thing. If you're part of a group that is a statistically higher risk, you are treated as such.

You could not be more wrong.
 
2012-02-18 04:49:02 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-02-18 04:49:12 PM

Shaggy_C: It's sad that Obama actually has to go to such lengths to get African Americans to actually vote for him. If he had done more for the African American community since taking office they would already be coming out to support him in droves.


Why are you assuming that African American's aren't supporting Obama? Just because Obama has asked for their support just doesn't mean he wasn't going to get it anyway, it could be he's just not taking anything for granted. If putting up a video like that can increase voter turnout regardless of high initial support it is worth doing.

Democrats, and Obama in particular have all gotten an amazing amount of African-American support in the past, and as long as Republican continue to cater to racists they will in the future.

What exactly did you expect Obama to have done for the African-American community anyway that would have mattered in terms of support?
 
2012-02-18 04:52:09 PM

CapnBlues: stoli n coke: missiv: [images.nbra.info image 500x159]
Blacks for White Nationalism has a long standing.

Hey, now. The Republican Party is not racist at all. Why, some of their best friends are Herman Cain.

and alan keyes!


And formerly Michael Steele. They don't like to talk about that, though.
 
2012-02-18 04:55:02 PM

quoinguy:
quoinguy:

Poop on all groups who try to separate themselves from society at large.


Does the existence of women's restrooms bother you this much too?
If not, can you explain why?


Women's bathrooms? That's the beginning of what you thought was a cogent point?

I'll answer it anyway. No, they don't bother me because I accept the fact that most men, including myself, would love to peek at chicks in various states of undress. They should have separate places to drop their underthings around their ankles for relieving themselves.



So, you recognize that some Americans have a legitimate reason to want to separate themselves from society at large for some purposes. That's a good first step. I notice that you phrase their right to have women only restrooms entirely in terms of what you want, not in terms of what they want, but that's still a good first step.

Now can you try to imagine, for a moment, why black Americans might want to have some places that are set aside for themselves, where they are not surrounded by whites?

Obviously, they'd all love to have you around to bathe in the joy of being in your presence, so don't take this personally, but try to imagine that maybe, just possibly, blacks don't want to be surrounded by white people 24/7. Sometimes, it's nice to be the majority, even if it is only a geographically localized majority. Sometimes they just don't want you around.

Hard to believe, I know. It requires you to stretch your mind, almost to the breaking point, to imagine a scenario in which you, personally, are not the center of everyone else's world. But just pretend that other people's lives don't revolve around you, personally, just for a minute. Imagine if they had their own feelings, wants and desires. Just try.
 
2012-02-18 04:55:34 PM

Gwyrddu: Shaggy_C: It's sad that Obama actually has to go to such lengths to get African Americans to actually vote for him. If he had done more for the African American community since taking office they would already be coming out to support him in droves.

Why are you assuming that African American's aren't supporting Obama? Just because Obama has asked for their support just doesn't mean he wasn't going to get it anyway, it could be he's just not taking anything for granted. If putting up a video like that can increase voter turnout regardless of high initial support it is worth doing.

Democrats, and Obama in particular have all gotten an amazing amount of African-American support in the past, and as long as Republican continue to cater to racists they will in the future.

What exactly did you expect Obama to have done for the African-American community anyway that would have mattered in terms of support?


Exactly. The Democratic Party could put up virtually anyone and be reasonably assured of getting 90% of the African-American vote. Of course, Obama is more concerned with increasing the percentage of that particular population that actually casts votes. It was at a record high in 2008 and I imagine the president would like to beat that number.

You'd have to be an idiot troll to opine that any of this means that Obama fears losing that bloc in November.
 
2012-02-18 04:57:15 PM
Here subby,, feel free to join "Honkies for Herman" and ease your massive butthurt.

Link (new window)
 
2012-02-18 04:58:03 PM

bulldg4life: Whoa...the iPhone correct attacked me. iPhone is black, I'm white.

Coincidence or continuing black on white violence?


Upitty iPhone doesn't know its place.
 
2012-02-18 05:04:58 PM

FloydA: Subby doesn't know what the word "racist" means, I see.


Yup.
 
2012-02-18 05:10:24 PM

Edsel: Wasn't there an explanation at one point of how their posts were a minute apart, and he couldn't possibly have logged out and typed the whole second post within a minute?

/time-traveling speed-typing alt-trolls will be the death of us all


You will notice, if you read the post that he so carefully screencapped, that if you take the first letter of every sentence, and separate them by paragraphs, it reads out as

I AM
NOT
MEIN
YOU
IDIOTS

But yes that was just a stroke of luck, rather than me posting to make fun of retards who think that I am Mein, even though we literally posted full posts in conversations with other peoples literally seconds after each others

I am Mein, and definitely not making fun of retards who think I'm Mein. I am the fastest troll in the land!

Ps:

here is the thread that started it all

You will notice that, in that thread, me and mein are posting full conversations literally seconds one after the other with different people, like:

me 07:52:39
him 07:53:29
me 07:53:31
him 07:54:10
me 07:55:08
him 07:55:18
me 07:56:45


so yeah either we are truly two different people living in two different countries OR I have two computers set up next to each others, where I am logged onto Fark, I am the faster poster of all time, can multitask the shiat out of stupid conversations AND I sometimes forget which computer I'm typing on

It's a retarded derail that is really just boring at this point.
 
2012-02-18 05:12:05 PM
i28.photobucket.com
 
2012-02-18 05:17:26 PM

Gwyrddu: Why are you assuming that African American's aren't supporting Obama? Just because Obama has asked for their support just doesn't mean he wasn't going to get it anyway, it could be he's just not taking anything for granted. If putting up a video like that can increase voter turnout regardless of high initial support it is worth doing.


Exactly my point; there's little to no risk that black people are going to storm to the polls to vote for the Republicans, that's a given. It's more about the turnout being depressed - the fear being that people will just stay home. Here's the last poll I could find on the subject from last September, so I can expect that his support has bounced back a bit but there's still good reason that he's out trying to drum up votes in the African American community.

African Americans continue to view the president favorably in overwhelming numbers, but the proportion expressing strongly positive views has dropped 25 points since mid-April. Five months ago, 83 percent of African Americans held strongly favorable impressions of Obama. In the new poll, the number doing so is 58 percent.

Support is good for confidence, strongly support is good for votes.

BSABSVR: You could not be more wrong.


I think you need to read up on the concept of 'disparate impact' in employment law and then see how the same idea applies to society at large. This goes to the point I am making to Gwyrddu; Obama's policies have largely focused on middle class whites. Whether it's unemployment benefits or handouts to massive green energy corporations or "cash for clunkers" or tax cuts, there's little out there that helps people who were already poor when he came into office. They didn't have unemployment checks to draw from, don't have advanced degrees that can get them 'green' jobs, don't have old cars they can sell, and tax cuts don't do a lot of good when you already are a net recipient come tax time. It's a sad fact in this country but the black community is greatly overrepresented in the lowest income bracket and that's the exact group that has seen the least "change" thanks to the current administration.
 
2012-02-18 05:18:51 PM

FloydA: Subby doesn't know what the word "racist" means, I see.


Actually it would have been more accurate to say that Obama's message was a plea for in-group altruism: A call for America's blacks to support him BECAUSE he is "black".

Can you imagine a scenario where such behavior might be frowned on in today's America?
 
2012-02-18 05:28:16 PM
As a white person, I enjoy the privilege of sniveling idiots repeating sociology 101 bunk about how my life was preordained by skin color.
 
2012-02-18 05:30:31 PM

BloodySaxon: As a white person, I enjoy the privilege of sniveling idiots repeating sociology 101 bunk about how my life was preordained by skin color.


You're the real victim here.
 
2012-02-18 05:32:18 PM

culebra: BloodySaxon: As a white person, I enjoy the privilege of sniveling idiots repeating sociology 101 bunk about how my life was preordained by skin color.

You're the real victim here.


Yes, that's definitely what I just said.


/wow
 
2012-02-18 05:35:13 PM

Kazan: "ethnic group X for candidate Y" is not racist no matter the values of X and Y. it is no different than "Veterans for Y" or "steel workers for Y".. it is a group.


i'm sorry that you seem to be unable to differentiate between when liberals actually criticize someone for sounding racist and when you imagine liberals making that criticism, perhaps you should get some therapy for your inability to separate fantasy from reality.


But when that group is based on...you know, race wouldnt that make it racist? It might not be offensively racist, but...yeah I'm pretty sure its racist.
 
2012-02-18 05:40:11 PM

BloodySaxon: culebra: BloodySaxon: As a white person, I enjoy the privilege of sniveling idiots repeating sociology 101 bunk about how my life was preordained by skin color.

You're the real victim here.

Yes, that's definitely what I just said.


/wow


You seem quite easily offended.
 
2012-02-18 05:40:59 PM

BloodySaxon: culebra: BloodySaxon: As a white person, I enjoy the privilege of sniveling idiots repeating sociology 101 bunk about how my life was preordained by skin color.

You're the real victim here.

Yes, that's definitely what I just said.


/wow


It kinda sounded that way.

there will never be perfect equality, but I'd say that if one group's woes are so small that very few of them complain and those who do take no significant actions to change things then that group is doing just fine.

I think that applies to the complaints of white males well enough.
 
2012-02-18 05:42:03 PM
www.thisshirtrocks.com

Wouldn't it be cool if he could just run on the merits of what has done for ALL Americans?

t1.gstatic.com

Race card is race card no matter who plays it.

Show a little class, Obama.
 
2012-02-18 05:43:58 PM

Amos Quito: [www.thisshirtrocks.com image 200x200]

Wouldn't it be cool if he could just run on the merits of what has done for ALL Americans?

[t1.gstatic.com image 197x256]

Race card is race card no matter who plays it.

Show a little class, Obama.


I think a dead Bin Laden was a gift for all of us, does that count?
 
2012-02-18 05:45:26 PM

Tatsuma: MeinRS6: That doesn't make sense to me. The context of the thread is about the names of the groups. Names that contain current numerical minorities(in the national sense, in some places blacks are not in the minority at all) are considered acceptable, where one containing anything about whites would not be acceptable. Like I said, it's a long standing double standard. And a poor one at that.

I would agree that it is, in fact, a double standard. The thing is, double standards are not inherently wrong.

When you have a group that is clearly in a position of power (and there is no denying that, as a whole, caucasians are in a position of power versus African-Americans), just because African-Americans can organize to try and advance their position in society doesn't mean that the group in power gets to get advocacy group to keep those advantages.


Obama 2012:

The politics of race and class division, fiscal erosion and despair, and nationalized industries marching as one.


Well libs, you got you what wanted, you elected the Great Divider.
 
2012-02-18 05:45:50 PM

stoli n coke: Amos Quito: [www.thisshirtrocks.com image 200x200]

Wouldn't it be cool if he could just run on the merits of what has done for ALL Americans?

[t1.gstatic.com image 197x256]

Race card is race card no matter who plays it.

Show a little class, Obama.

I think a dead Bin Laden was a gift for all of us, does that count?


Navy SEALs did that.
 
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