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2012-02-18 05:06:49 PM  

Raharu: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sleeping Monkey: doyner: Tatsuma: Bring it on, brah.

Oh look! We have another cheerleader for war!

Yeah, with American money.

I thought Tats was an American.

From what I understand hes emigrated to Israel, and given up his American citizenship, and is now in training to become a rabbi.


Well then isn't today Shabbos? I thought he didn't roll on Shabbos.
 
2012-02-18 05:08:31 PM  

Mugato: Well then isn't today Shabbos? I thought he didn't roll on Shabbos.


Friday sunset to Saturday sunset. Depends on what timezone he's in.
 
2012-02-18 05:09:50 PM  

Mugato: Raharu: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sleeping Monkey: doyner: Tatsuma: Bring it on, brah.

Oh look! We have another cheerleader for war!

Yeah, with American money.

I thought Tats was an American.

From what I understand hes emigrated to Israel, and given up his American citizenship, and is now in training to become a rabbi.

Well then isn't today Shabbos? I thought he didn't Troll on Shabbos.



FTFY

/And the sun went down in the Promised Land hours ago
 
2012-02-18 05:10:02 PM  
And the USA has a lazy carrier fleet or two, who knows how many subs, etc etc, for fluffy good times and to help some sick sailors who need to take in the fresh air.
 
2012-02-18 05:10:11 PM  
Kibbler

Just like the message of peace and brotherhood we delivered in Iraq in 2003.

The world saw the US get sucker punched, then beat up the wrong guy.
 
2012-02-18 05:10:29 PM  

Miss Stein: i759.photobucket.com


Yep, first thing I thought of.
 
2012-02-18 05:11:44 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: I thought Tats was an American.


Tats has been revealed to be a collective.
 
2012-02-18 05:12:07 PM  
Didn't Iran learn from last time they messed with the US Navy (this is the same type of vessel they just sent though the Suez)?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-02-18 05:12:54 PM  

ronaprhys: Mugato: Well then isn't today Shabbos? I thought he didn't roll on Shabbos.

Friday sunset to Saturday sunset. Depends on what timezone he's in.


Ahhh.
 
2012-02-18 05:13:36 PM  
Meh. Iran's Navy sucks. The freaking Italians could crush them, and they couldn't even successfully invade Ethiopia.
 
2012-02-18 05:13:54 PM  

Jubeebee: Speedofdarkness: If they keep it up the US is going to respond with friendship torpedoes and peace missiles.

[img.photobucket.com image 320x240]

Not that I want the US and/or Israel to start shooting at Iran, but the Iranian navy is about as threatening as a wet cocker spaniel.


This, this, this. Leave it to the media to blow it out of proportion. And leave it to some misguided Farker to post it here to 1) get hits? 2) something else? 3) SCARY BROWN PEOPLE!!!
 
2012-02-18 05:16:36 PM  

BronyMedic: rev. dave: Iran's trademark brand of peace and friendship to those who cooperate submissively.

Really, your worried here?

A flight of F/A-18s could sink most, if not all, of Iran's surface navy from beyond visual range.

Their only threat is diesel electric submarines and using them against non-combattant shipping in the area.


I do not approve of War. I realize it is necessary to defend yourself, but this was old a very long time ago. I don't have the answers, but would prefer that world leaders would stop acting like teenage gang members and always wanting revenge for past injustice.
 
2012-02-18 05:16:58 PM  

smazzocity: Amos Quito: Speedofdarkness: doyner: Jubeebee: Speedofdarkness: If they keep it up the US is going to respond with friendship torpedoes and peace missiles.

[img.photobucket.com image 320x240]

Not that I want the US and/or Israel to start shooting at Iran, but the Iranian navy is about as threatening as a wet cocker spaniel.

That doesn't mean that they can't take some American sailors with them...

I don't think so. If it happens the US is going to show Iran how submarines work. It will be a one sided massacre.


[www.factfixx.com image 500x426]


/A jingo ate my baby

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i.telegraph.co.uk
 
2012-02-18 05:17:01 PM  
New war? Don't care. Get out there and die fur your amurika! Hell, bring back the draft just for shiatz and giggles.
 
2012-02-18 05:17:09 PM  
PsiChi: Jubeebee: Speedofdarkness: If they keep it up the US is going to respond with friendship torpedoes and peace missiles.

[img.photobucket.com image 320x240]

Not that I want the US and/or Israel to start shooting at Iran, but the Iranian navy is about as threatening as a wet cocker spaniel.

This, this, this. Leave it to the media to blow it out of proportion. And leave it to some misguided Farker to post it here to 1) get hits? 2) something else? 3) SCARY BROWN PEOPLE!!!


The only problem is how many commercial ships could Iran damage and/or sink before we sunk their fleet first.

Threatening to a carrier battle group does not mean the same thing as threatening to an LNG tanker.
 
2012-02-18 05:18:41 PM  
I'm pretty sure Israel can handle the might of Iran's navy.
 
2012-02-18 05:18:56 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com

/oblig?
 
2012-02-18 05:20:15 PM  
I don't know how one defends against 1000 suicide speedboats, but I bet it's not 1000, and I bet a few Phalanx CIWS augmented with C-130 and bunch of helicopters would go along way.

And after the Cole, my assumption is the Navy has trained and figured out defenses for this and no speedboat is getting closer than 1000 yards during a shooting war.
 
2012-02-18 05:20:38 PM  

DrippinBalls: New war? Don't care. Get out there and die fur your amurika! Hell, bring back the draft just for shiatz and giggles.


You forgot "More blood for oil!!".
 
2012-02-18 05:21:24 PM  
Basketball has no weapons, we're a peaceful planet!
 
2012-02-18 05:23:07 PM  
users.breathe.com

"Don't run! We are your friends!"
 
2012-02-18 05:24:39 PM  
I had a 1st sergeant once that would invariably make your life hell if you pissed him off. That guy was sooo easily manipulated.

/am i doin it right?
 
2012-02-18 05:25:31 PM  
Someone misses GW Bush.
 
2012-02-18 05:27:40 PM  

Rich Cream: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 525x421]

/oblig?


Those are not "Military Bases", they are "Democracy OutpostsTM". Why do you hate freedom?
 
2012-02-18 05:30:58 PM  
Maggi Thatcher is another great example, she was easy to manipulate that you could get her to sink your shiat as often as you wanted it sunk burnt or destroyed.
 
2012-02-18 05:31:56 PM  

Amos Quito: Tatsuma: Bring it on, brah.


LOL!

Israel is the aggressor in this show, brat, and your little game is already costing US consumers close to $100 million PER DAY in the form of higher fuel prices - a figure that is likely to escalate rapidly as Israel turns up the heat.

Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year (new window)


QUOTES

"At $3.53 a gallon, prices are already up 25 cents since Jan. 1. And experts say they could reach a record $4.25 a gallon by late April.

"You're going to see a lot more staycations this year," says Michael Lynch, president of Strategic Energy & Economic Research. "When the price gets anywhere near $4, you really see people react."

[...]

Oil around the world is priced differently. Brent crude from the North Sea is a proxy for the foreign oil that's imported by U.S. refineries and turned into gasoline and other fuels. Its price has risen 11% so far this year, to around $119 a barrel, because of tensions with Iran, a cold snap in Europe and rising demand from developing nations.

[...]

A 25-cent jump in gasoline prices, if sustained over a year, would cost the economy about $35 billion. That's only 0.2% of the total U.S. economy, but economists say it's a meaningful amount, especially at a time when growth is only so-so. The economy grew 2.8% in the fourth quarter, a rate considered modest following a recession.

[...]

In the short term, tensions with Iran are feeding fears that oil supplies could be blocked.

The U.S. and Europe are tightening economic sanctions against Iran over what the West believes is Iran's attempt to build a nuclear bomb. World leaders fear Israel may be planning a strike against Iran, the world's third largest oil exporter.

In response, Iran has threatened to withhold its own oil deliveries and to block the Strait of Hormuz, a waterway along its coastline through which one-fifth of the world's oil flows.

On Friday, an international banking clearinghouse crucial to Iran's oil sales said it is prepar ...


Iran would be a problem child even without Israel. It may be worse due to our meddling over the years, but it's neighbors are it's enemies and that has little to do with Israel, since they don't like Israel either.
 
2012-02-18 05:32:25 PM  

RoyBatty: I don't know how one defends against 1000 suicide speedboats, but I bet it's not 1000, and I bet a few Phalanx CIWS augmented with C-130 and bunch of helicopters would go along way.

And after the Cole, my assumption is the Navy has trained and figured out defenses for this and no speedboat is getting closer than 1000 yards during a shooting war.


You're basing that off the Millennium games... the reason that was so successful was because the Blue commander didn't see it coming. That's the whole idea of War games like that, so we can figure out strategies against things like that.
 
2012-02-18 05:36:46 PM  

Knight of the Woeful Countenance: You're basing that off the Millennium games... the reason that was so successful was because the Blue commander didn't see it coming. That's the whole idea of War games like that, so we can figure out strategies against things like that.


Well, yes, and I am totally ignorant of anything that occurs 15' off the beach.

But yes, I assume that that strategy, along with hijacking airplanes on suicide missions, is pretty much a one time shot strategy, and then no more.

I just don't see any speedboat getting with 10,000' of a Navy ship once the guns are going off.

I am curious if a Phalanx CIWS or whatever it's current equivalent is, has been programmed/reprogrammed for surface ships. (Because they certainly were in Snow Crash!)
 
2012-02-18 05:37:38 PM  
Rich Cream: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 525x421]

/oblig?


You know, I've always wanted to debate the accuracy of that picture.

Going Clockwise:

Ganci and Manas (Actually one base.) - Now Transit Center at Manas, Logistic Base for NATO/US Miliary Operations - leased from the Kyrgyzstani Government. Lease to expire and close in 2014. Does not house ground or combat air resources, used for logistical transit.

Chirchik - Not a US Military base, Uzbekistan military allows US Logistical Flights to utilize.

Khujand - No evidence that any US Forces are there - GlobalSecurity.org

Khanabad - No US Military results on search.

...You know what. I'm stopping there.
 
2012-02-18 05:39:38 PM  
I would take the Iranian Navy a little more seriously, if they werent sponsored by Target.
 
2012-02-18 05:39:41 PM  

RoyBatty: I just don't see any speedboat getting with 10,000' of a Navy ship once the guns are going off.


The Iranian boats that recently charged the carrier group got a series of warning flairs shot at them from a helicopter before they turned back. I have a feeling the next warning they would have gotten would have been in the form of a burst from those guns.
 
2012-02-18 05:41:01 PM  
RoyBatty: Knight of the Woeful Countenance: You're basing that off the Millennium games... the reason that was so successful was because the Blue commander didn't see it coming. That's the whole idea of War games like that, so we can figure out strategies against things like that.

Well, yes, and I am totally ignorant of anything that occurs 15' off the beach.

But yes, I assume that that strategy, along with hijacking airplanes on suicide missions, is pretty much a one time shot strategy, and then no more.

I just don't see any speedboat getting with 10,000' of a Navy ship once the guns are going off.

I am curious if a Phalanx CIWS or whatever it's current equivalent is, has been programmed/reprogrammed for surface ships. (Because they certainly were in Snow Crash!)


From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phalanx_CIWS

Due to the continuing evolution of both threats and computer technology, the Phalanx system has, like most military systems, been developed through a number of different configurations. The basic (original) style is the Block 0, equipped with first generation solid state electronics and with marginal capability against surface targets. The Block 1 (1988) upgrade offered various improvements in radar, ammunition, rate of fire, increasing engagement elevation to +70 degrees, and computing. These improvements were intended to increase the system's capability against emerging Russian supersonic anti-ship missiles. Block 1A introduced a new computer system to counter more maneuverable targets. The Block 1B PSuM (Phalanx Surface Mode, 1999) adds a forward looking infrared (FLIR) sensor to allow the weapon to be used against surface targets.[12] This addition was developed to provide ship defense against small vessel threats and other "floaters" in littoral waters and to improve the weapon's performance against slower low-flying aircraft. The FLIR's capability is also of use against low-observability missiles and can be linked with the RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missile (RAM) system to increase RAM engagement range and accuracy. The Block 1B also allows for an operator to visually identify and target threats.[12]

The U.S. is in the process of upgrading all their Phalanx systems to the Block 1B configuration. The Block 1B is also used by other navies such as Canada, Portugal, Japan, Egypt, Bahrain and the UK.[13]
 
2012-02-18 05:44:46 PM  

BronyMedic: From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phalanx_CIWSDue to the continuing evolution of both threats and computer technology, the Phalanx system has, like most military systems, been developed through a number of different configurations. The basic (original) style is the Block 0, equipped with first generation solid state electronics and with marginal capability against surface targets. The Block 1 (1988) upgrade offered various improvements in radar, ammunition, rate of fire, increasing engagement elevation to +70 degrees, and computing. These improvements were intended to increase the system's capability against emerging Russian supersonic anti-ship missiles. Block 1A introduced a new computer system to counter more maneuverable targets. The Block 1B PSuM (Phalanx Surface Mode, 1999) adds a forward looking infrared (FLIR) sensor to allow the weapon to be used against surface targets.[12] This addition was developed to provide ship defense against small vessel threats and other "floaters" in littoral waters and to improve the weapon's performance against slower low-flying aircraft. The FLIR's capability is also of use against low-observability missiles and can be linked with the RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missile (RAM) system to increase RAM engagement range and accuracy. The Block 1B also allows for an operator to visually identify and target threats.[12]The U.S. is in the process of upgrading all their Phalanx systems to the Block 1B configuration. The Block 1B is also used by other navies such as Canada, Portugal, Japan, Egypt, Bahrain and the UK.[13]


Thank you, and I apologize for not wikiing that myself.

Once more, I am glad to find that Snow Crash predicted it.
 
2012-02-18 06:15:29 PM  
Religion of Peace!
 
2012-02-18 06:16:50 PM  
This sounds like Saddam's strategy for preserving his air force during the first Gulf War... get the assets as far away as possible from the theater of operations.

Amos Quito:
Israel is the aggressor in this show, brat, and your little game is already costing US consumers close to $100 million PER DAY in the form of higher fuel prices - a figure that is likely to escalate rapidly as Israel turns up the heat.


I'm not fan of Israel and I think a war with Iran ranks among the dumbest things we could do, but think about all the players in this game and who benefits from the spikes in oil prices caused by bellicose rhetoric. I'll give you a hint... it begins with "I" and ends with "ran".
 
2012-02-18 06:25:29 PM  

Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: This sounds like Saddam's strategy for preserving his air force during the first Gulf War... get the assets as far away as possible from the theater of operations.

Amos Quito:
Israel is the aggressor in this show, brat, and your little game is already costing US consumers close to $100 million PER DAY in the form of higher fuel prices - a figure that is likely to escalate rapidly as Israel turns up the heat.

I'm not fan of Israel and I think a war with Iran ranks among the dumbest things we could do, but think about all the players in this game and who benefits from the spikes in oil prices caused by bellicose rhetoric. I'll give you a hint... it begins with "I" and ends with "ran".



I'd like to know how Iran is benefiting. Sanctions imposed by USrael are preventing any oil revenues from reaching the country, and "we" are working to prohibit their exporting oil entirely.

Or weren't you aware of that?

I'm not claiming that the Zionist State is benefiting substantially from the price hikes - I am showing that their aggressive assholishness is costing US consumers Billion$ - and the rest of the world as well.

If your spoiled brat vandalizes the neighbors car, he may not benefit from his actions, but his actions are going to cost you.

It's about time that Israel got off US welfare and found a farking job.
 
2012-02-18 06:27:45 PM  
Hang out with the JSTARS pukes, and you'll see why today is nothing like years past. Our improvements in the armed forces is that they are now a netcentric force.

Little boats, big boats, planes..... they get seen and targeted sooooo quickly.

F-18's are just the start of the A/C that will be raining munitions on moving targets. UAV's , F-16's , helos will start in on the Iranians.

Special forces added to the mix with helo's will make it a basic turkey shoot.

Gone are the days of A-6e's, A-7's looking for targets with the Mk1eyeball and some mk82's or Rockeyes.

Iranians are nuttin' but talk. They know what would happen.
 
2012-02-18 06:28:25 PM  
Raharu: I thought Tats was an American.

From what I understand hes emigrated to Israel, and given up his American citizenship, and is now in training to become a rabbi.


If memory serves he lived in Canada for a time as well, and never once stopped talking shiat about it. Such a charming way to say thank-you to a country that allowed him to live there.
 
2012-02-18 06:33:32 PM  
I guarantee Israel is already tracking them with subs on a hair trigger.
 
2012-02-18 06:33:44 PM  
Support our troops... by not letting the retards in the US gov't buy into the maximum trolling effort Iran is pulling.
 
2012-02-18 06:35:04 PM  

Amos Quito: Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: This sounds like Saddam's strategy for preserving his air force during the first Gulf War... get the assets as far away as possible from the theater of operations.

Amos Quito:
Israel is the aggressor in this show, brat, and your little game is already costing US consumers close to $100 million PER DAY in the form of higher fuel prices - a figure that is likely to escalate rapidly as Israel turns up the heat.

I'm not fan of Israel and I think a war with Iran ranks among the dumbest things we could do, but think about all the players in this game and who benefits from the spikes in oil prices caused by bellicose rhetoric. I'll give you a hint... it begins with "I" and ends with "ran".


I'd like to know how Iran is benefiting. Sanctions imposed by USrael are preventing any oil revenues from reaching the country, and "we" are working to prohibit their exporting oil entirely.

Or weren't you aware of that?

I'm not claiming that the Zionist State is benefiting substantially from the price hikes - I am showing that their aggressive assholishness is costing US consumers Billion$ - and the rest of the world as well.

If your spoiled brat vandalizes the neighbors car, he may not benefit from his actions, but his actions are going to cost you.

It's about time that Israel got off US welfare and found a farking job.


I agree with most of the things you're saying, I'm just saying that Iran (I should clarify... the cleric-run government of Iran) is not without culpability in this whole mess; they've been more than happy to fan the flames. And the sanctions are new; the rhetoric has been going on for a long time.
 
2012-02-18 06:35:43 PM  
Hey Iran, Desert Storm I. Your navy is saddams tanks.
 
2012-02-18 06:36:22 PM  
I think subby is a bit whelmed.

"That" is not a warship. It has more in common with a tub toy.
 
2012-02-18 06:36:44 PM  
Kill them all. Every last one. Everywhere.
 
2012-02-18 06:38:40 PM  
They better be careful You never know, a mysterious waterborne motorcycle may pull up alongside and attach a bomb to one of these warships.
 
2012-02-18 06:40:45 PM  

sharkbeagle: Kill them all. Every last one. Everywhere.


If the Jews had done this when God told them to, the Middle East would be a much quieter place.
 
2012-02-18 06:41:32 PM  
for starters, that picture looked like a damn toy model (hell it might have been for purposes of the article) and after reading up on the canal, why would they agree to a treaty that allows warships regardless of what flag is flown to sail through there?
 
2012-02-18 06:41:36 PM  

Sleeping Monkey: doyner: Tatsuma: Bring it on, brah.

Oh look! We have another cheerleader for war!

Yeah, with American money.


oh - there goes the rest of what I've got left of anything I've been able to put aside.
Just help yourself to either dollar.
 
2012-02-18 06:45:44 PM  

jimmyjackfunk: after reading up on the canal, why would they agree to a treaty that allows warships regardless of what flag is flown to sail through there?


??
 
2012-02-18 06:46:54 PM  
The dreaded Iranian Navy. Even the Canadian coastguard make fun of it.
 
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