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(KCTV5 Kansas City)   Boy with a funny name misbehaves and loses school bus privileges and obviously mother should be imprisoned for a year   (kctv5.com) divider line 53
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2012-02-18 10:26:05 AM  
16 votes:
"Ask yourself a question - is that safe for the child? If you wouldn't want your child doing it, we probably don't need somebody else's child doing it," said Sergeant Lyle Waterworth.

Ok, Sergeant McDouchenozzle. You want to argue that it's not safe for a 10 year old kid to walk 5 miles in broad daylight your town? Perhaps you should get off your ass and fix that. Protect and serve, you son of a biatch.
2012-02-18 10:57:57 AM  
4 votes:
Parenting while black is against the law.
2012-02-18 10:24:17 AM  
4 votes:

cryinoutloud: "Ask yourself a question - is that safe for the child? If you wouldn't want your child doing it, we probably don't need somebody else's child doing it," said Sergeant Lyle Waterworth.


No. Just no. That's not the question of law at hand.

You're just making up personal inquiries. I can do that too.

Ask yourself a question - Would you want police raising your child? No? 10 years in jail for Sergeant Lyle Waterworth!
2012-02-18 10:18:55 AM  
3 votes:
On Monday, his mother ordered him to walk to school, almost five miles from their home. During his walk he crossed a bank parking lot, catching the eye of a security guard surprised to see a child alone in the area.
"Ask yourself a question - is that safe for the child? If you wouldn't want your child doing it, we probably don't need somebody else's child doing it," said Sergeant Lyle Waterworth.


Listen up, parents--your kids are not allowed to be out running the streets and walking across bank parking lots. Why, there might be a car around there somewhere.

/f*cking loony tunes
//surprised any modern kid could even walk five miles
2012-02-18 08:33:08 AM  
3 votes:
Making your child walk to school is now endangering the welfare of a child?

What world do I live in again?
2012-02-18 02:15:44 PM  
2 votes:
I think she should have walked with him. They clearly both need punishment if he got suspended FIVE TIMES.
2012-02-18 11:49:25 AM  
2 votes:

deanayer: Thats ten miles a day. Thats too damn far for a kid that age or any really. Its not the distance as much as the time. Its about two hours a day of just walking and thats about an hour and a half less time to do homework for this kid. I would have made him walk it the first day to make a point but after that I would have driven him. If he had a bike to ride it might be a different story and I would factor in the temperature as well. The really issue is where the dark is Daddy? All these problems always go back to where the fark is Daddy.


I mean this in the least offensive manner possible, but: You sound like a sopping wet pussy. I don't even want to fathom what you were like as a wee 10 year old. So yeah, maybe for you a 10 mile round-trip walk might have murdered your delicate constitution, this kid sounds like he was doing just fine with it. Also, why are you pretending that all kids are like office drones? An hour and a half less time for homework? Really? Did your parents make you use a punch card when you were 10? It's elementary homework, not his senior farking thesis. You honestly think he comes home from school and works deligently on his school homework until light's out? Gimme a break. Probably more like 30 minutes of "What's 5 times 7?" followed by 3 hours of Call of Duty.

/I'm not being a dick to you because I think you're a wuss
//I'm being a dick because I hate your stupid ideas
2012-02-18 11:44:03 AM  
2 votes:
I used to walk that far to school when I was a kid, and it wasn't as punishment, I just hated taking the bus. It's not that bad a walk.
2012-02-18 11:27:33 AM  
2 votes:

BretMavrik: The five miles is irrelevant here. The guard called the cops, the kid was picked up and the mother was cited because of where he was, not how far he was walking. It doesn't matter whether he was in the middle of a five mile walk or a half-mile walk, the same thing would have happened.


It's illegal to be in a bank parking lot? I think you're grasping at straws here. The kid was picked up because the guard called the cops. The cops have seriously overreacted. No laws were broken here, except the ones the cops made up in their heads. They have decided on their own to make walking 5 miles = child endangerment. I hope the idiot loses his job over this. I'm sure the judge that will hear this case has seen lots of evidence of bad parenting, and this isn't one of them. Hopefully the judge will applaud the mother, ask the kid if he's learned his lesson, and toss the whole thing out. If he's really on his game, he'll tell the cops not to be such mamma's boys.
2012-02-18 11:21:25 AM  
2 votes:

deanayer: Its about two hours a day of just walking and thats about an hour and a half less time to do homework for this kid.


Are you kidding? As much time as kids spend nowadays indoors sitting on their ass, not even counting how long you spend sitting at school, a few hours a day walking isn't a bad idea. I used to spend a few hours a day outside walking around and playing with my friends, and I still got my homework done. And it took me 2 hrs to get TO school and then another 2 to get back on the bus anyway. I had to catch the bus at 5:15-5:20 and we'd get to school at 7:25, 5 minutes before the day started. School ended at 2:30pm and I'd get home at 4:15-4:30 pm.
A bus route for many kids takes a couple of hours anyway, if you're one of the first on, just because they have to stop and pick up all the kids. So how is some kid walking 2 hours to school going to cause a huge problem as opposed to a kid that has to spend the time on the bus instead?
2012-02-18 11:12:27 AM  
2 votes:

cryinoutloud: On Monday, his mother ordered him to walk to school, almost five miles from their home. During his walk he crossed a bank parking lot, catching the eye of a security guard surprised to see a child alone in the area.
"Ask yourself a question - is that safe for the child? If you wouldn't want your child doing it, we probably don't need somebody else's child doing it," said Sergeant Lyle Waterworth.

Listen up, parents--your kids are not allowed to be out running the streets and walking across bank parking lots. Why, there might be a car around there somewhere.

/f*cking loony tunes
//surprised any modern kid could even walk five miles


and there was this stupidity from the popo too.
"If we see a child and see the child out in a location where they shouldn't be, feel free to call the police. That's what we're here for, and we want to keep the kids safe," said Waterworth.

a bank parking lot is "a location where they shouldn't be"? man i'm old and all but damn this is messed up.
2012-02-18 10:52:54 AM  
2 votes:
OK, it's good to see so many people saying WTF over this, but it's actually worse than you think. Consider:

During his walk he crossed a bank parking lot, catching the eye of a security guard surprised to see a child alone in the area.

"Ask yourself a question - is that safe for the child? If you wouldn't want your child doing it, we probably don't need somebody else's child doing it," said Sergeant Lyle Waterworth.

The guard called Jonesboro police, who took the boy to school, then contacted his mother.

Nequavion's mother was cited for endangering the welfare of a minor in the second degree.

"If we see a child and see the child out in a location where they shouldn't be, feel free to call the police. That's what we're here for, and we want to keep the kids safe," said Waterworth.


The five miles is irrelevant here. The guard called the cops, the kid was picked up and the mother was cited because of where he was, not how far he was walking. It doesn't matter whether he was in the middle of a five mile walk or a half-mile walk, the same thing would have happened.
2012-02-18 10:47:42 AM  
2 votes:
I'm going to give FriarReb98 the benefit of the doubt here - I read his post to mean, "We no longer live in a world that is generally perceived as 'safe'." Even though kids are safer today than they were a generation ago.

The problem today is that we have so sheltered our children, they are unprepared to face any sort of threat at all, natural or predatory. They have no survival skills, because where we used to teach basic safety, we now smother them with vigilant overprotection instead.

Walking home from school at age 9, I survived an attempted snatching. I credit this to having good survival instincts, and listening to them. I worry today that when today's sheltered snowflakes get their first taste of freedom, they will not be nearly as prepared.
2012-02-18 10:46:00 AM  
2 votes:
blacktown.net
2012-02-18 10:34:08 AM  
2 votes:
Punishing your kid with excercise = Jail time

Punishing your kid by filling their laptop with bullets = Fame

Let that be a lesson. Next time, bust a cap in his shoes and put it on youtube.
2012-02-18 10:24:04 AM  
2 votes:
Pray for Nequavion!
2012-02-18 10:23:28 AM  
2 votes:
The world is such a dangerous place these days. Except it's statistically far less dangerous than it was 20 years ago when I almost always walked (well rode my bike) six miles to elementary school. A few years later, my parents, through their blatant negligence, really endangered my welfare when I routinely ran 10 miles each way to high school. I can't believe my parents were never arrested.
2012-02-18 10:21:13 AM  
2 votes:
Really? I walked 12 miles to and from school a few times because I loss my bus pass. The school didn't have school buses so you had to take public transportation and the MTA didn't believe in giving people free rides even if they were school children. My mom would be up shiat's creek if these people found out about that.
2012-02-18 10:19:59 AM  
2 votes:
I know a kid who was forced to do this in high school. Kid was a punk, though, and his mother was fed up. Dick shouldn't have got himself kicked off the bus.
2012-02-18 09:46:01 AM  
2 votes:
Well, 9 or 10 is a little young to walk alone to school, but if she had followed him, it sounds like the punishment was actually making the kid learn something. God forbid.

Next time, walk with him.
2012-02-19 09:17:09 AM  
1 votes:

kisseswookies: The My Little Pony Killer: kisseswookies: My group of friends started procreating and some of the names make me face palm.

Country Creek
Axl Action
Niga (pronounced Nye-jah)
Xiola

I love my friends but C'MON!

Please oh please let those two be siblings.

Sigh, no. But Country was named after that awful Walmart baby movie, and Axl was named after that awful 80/90s band.

/again, love my friends but CMON!


I really, really feel bad for Niga. There is no way anyone will ever correctly pronounce that name on the first try. Or everyone will because they will feel forced to ask how to pronounce it before attempting to say it. Seriously, no one felt obliged to pull these parents aside and say "you know... this is not a good idea and here's why..."
2012-02-18 08:46:59 PM  
1 votes:
I tried to find a study how many kids are actually kidnapped every year in United States. According to this about ninetyLink (new window)

Compare that to number of kids killed in car accidents. About four children under 14 are killed in USA every day in car accidents. Link

So making your kids walk to school arguably safer than driving them.
2012-02-18 04:13:57 PM  
1 votes:

bunner: "If we see a child and see the child out in a location where they shouldn't be, feel free to call the police."

"Borders will appear in court later this month, and if found guilty, she could face up to a year in jail and a $1,000 fine. "

That's a wrap. Burn everything down and pack the ashes in styrofoam.

/took two public transit buses, each way and then walked to school in 4th grade. That's age 9.


The real issue here is somebody else making a judgment call on what is appropriate for a child they don't know.
It does sound like a lowly security guard jumped on an opportunity to interact with the real police.
If your 10 old isn't savvy enough to make his way to school on foot you have failed as a parent. Walking alone gives him time to think, exercise and acquaints him with his surroundings.
2012-02-18 03:11:37 PM  
1 votes:

PsiChick: I'm an avid hiker, so I'm getting a kick out of this. I'd also like to invite these posters to actually walk five miles. No, not five blocks...five miles.

Can a ten-year-old do it? Yes--but is it safe? No, because if the ten-year-old gets too cold, too hot, dehydrated, or sprains an ankle, they may not be able to get to help. This is a very basic safety issue. Could a ten-year-old walk a mile alone? Yes. But five? No, and making them walk it puts you quite rightly at risk of endangerment charges.

/Is it completely impossible for parents to take away computer privileges anymore?


Yeah, at my maximum, my daily walking route, just to keep in shape, was four miles.

If this kid is walking to and from school, we're talking ten miles a day. And that's "cold", without any training to work up to walking regularly.

Also, what's the kid's pace per mile? Does his mother know? So how does she know how much time to allow for him to get to school? Over five miles, any deviation in his pace is going to make a lot of difference. Does he have a watch?

And yeah, I would like to see which people in this thread can raise their hands and say they walked five miles in one go any time within the past year.

I actually can't raise my own hand to that---four is the most I did. (Bad me.)

Okay---money where your mouth is, people. Which of you walked (or ran) five miles at one time at least once within the past year?
2012-02-18 02:15:31 PM  
1 votes:
I'm an avid hiker, so I'm getting a kick out of this. I'd also like to invite these posters to actually walk five miles. No, not five blocks...five miles.

Can a ten-year-old do it? Yes--but is it safe? No, because if the ten-year-old gets too cold, too hot, dehydrated, or sprains an ankle, they may not be able to get to help. This is a very basic safety issue. Could a ten-year-old walk a mile alone? Yes. But five? No, and making them walk it puts you quite rightly at risk of endangerment charges.

/Is it completely impossible for parents to take away computer privileges anymore?
2012-02-18 01:37:16 PM  
1 votes:
Yeah, yeah, we all walked to school, so let's stop yammering on about it. What I get from this is that Mom is raising a pretty recent kid, unlike the spoiled brats I usually see/hear about/read about on Fark.

The child's defense of his mom in court tells me that is is accustomed to being disciplined. She's doing her job. Yay, mom and yay, kid! He was yelling on the bus, not taking a switchblade to the upholstery. They seem like a nice family.

And I like his name. It's not "ghetto." Pry open your minds a little bit. I'll take a hundred Nequavions over one Brayden Jayden Cayden Haylee MacKenZie, you racist f*cktards.
2012-02-18 01:35:36 PM  
1 votes:
Democrats don't approve of this, so it should be banned.
If Democrats approved of it, it would be manadtory.
2012-02-18 12:35:25 PM  
1 votes:
I do not see the problem with this as it gives the prevention of this individual becoming the fat person. Give the woman the medal of the freedoms of not being the obese Fark.com poster.
2012-02-18 12:33:46 PM  
1 votes:

Coyote Doyenne: Ask your doctor if Nequavion® is right for you.


I was voting for it being an Eevee evolution.
2012-02-18 12:28:26 PM  
1 votes:

Coyote Doyenne: Ask your doctor if Nequavion® is right for you.


May cause bloating, difficulty in breathing, painful swelling, anal leakage, sudden and painful death, poor eyesight, hernias, strokes, week long boners, high blood pressure, low blood pressure, painful urination, crippling paralysis, flaky skin, pulmonary collapse, painful searing migraines, heart murmurs or the shaky Jakes. Your sinuses, however, will thank you.™
2012-02-18 12:22:01 PM  
1 votes:
Ask your doctor if Nequavion® is right for you.
2012-02-18 12:21:18 PM  
1 votes:
Wow, a mother showing a kid the consequences of his actions?
What kind of mother can she be? She should have notified the television station to do an investigative report on the peril that the school system put her child in. She didn't even claim racism or file a lawsuit against the system.
This child could be scarred for life, as a mother she is FAIL
.
/ actually she did the right thing, but should have followed him
2012-02-18 12:13:40 PM  
1 votes:
I had no choice but to walk 4+miles to school everyday from age 8 b/c they changed the rules and I fell just inside the boundary so I wasn't eligible to take the school bus. No one ever bothered me and I had no problem with the walk.

//SO sick of this helicopter society
2012-02-18 11:38:21 AM  
1 votes:

cman: Making your child walk to school is now endangering the welfare of a child?

What world do I live in again?


This story is complete bullshiat. I'm no "uphill both ways in the snow" octogenarian. I'm 26. When I was in elementary and middle school, we lived 8 miles away from the school. If my brother and/or I missed the bus or got kicked off it, we WALKED HOME. Nobody had to tell us to do it. We knew that we'd farked up and walking home or to school was the consequence. No one ever got fined, or arrested, certainly never imprisoned. Personally, the only part of that story that makes me feel like atleast SOMEONE has a brain in their head is the kid. He comes right out and says "Look, I know that this was my fault, why are you trying to punish my mom?". If his mom can weather this particular shiatstorm (which no one has the right to put on her because stranger danger is bullshiat) I'd say she's halfway to raising a pretty decent adult. Good on her.
2012-02-18 11:25:44 AM  
1 votes:

Javacrucian: sendtodave: Actually, I kinda like it. Sounds almost Shakespearean.

If he were a turn of the 16th century European I'd agree.


That's racist.
2012-02-18 11:11:14 AM  
1 votes:

deanayer: Thats ten miles a day. Thats too damn far for a kid that age or any really. Its not the distance as much as the time. Its about two hours a day of just walking and thats about an hour and a half less time to do homework for this kid.


Or an hour and a half less time in front of the TV.
2012-02-18 11:05:09 AM  
1 votes:
Kids are weak because society forces them to be weak. 10 miles a day is a bit long, but it's not like a death march. The schools would be better off if all of the little heathens got a bit more exercise.
2012-02-18 11:02:50 AM  
1 votes:
"Ask yourself a question - is that safe for the child? If you wouldn't want your child doing it, we probably don't need somebody else's child doing it," said Sergeant Lyle Waterworth.

Well, you know, I don't want MY kids making iPads and iPhone or my Reebocks. But SOMEONE's kids have to do it.
2012-02-18 10:58:36 AM  
1 votes:

PsiChi:
/I'm all for proper discipline, but that's too far to have a 10 year old walk by himself.


Oh, for crissake ! No. It just isn't.
2012-02-18 10:57:12 AM  
1 votes:

huskerdu: Just wait until his father hears about this!


Couldn't let this gem go unnoticed. Bravo to you, sir.
2012-02-18 10:56:05 AM  
1 votes:

Javacrucian: Nequavion

Ugh.

I'll just say what most of us are thinking. Give a kid a ghetto name like that, you may as well assign him a parole number too, because almost nobody is going to take him seriously his entire life.


Actually, I kinda like it. Sounds almost Shakespearean.
2012-02-18 10:56:01 AM  
1 votes:
upload.wikimedia.org

Main street of Jonesboro, AR. Population 67,263. Looks like a very dangerous place to let a kid walk to school. String her up!
2012-02-18 10:53:45 AM  
1 votes:
Nequavion

Ugh.

I'll just say what most of us are thinking. Give a kid a ghetto name like that, you may as well assign him a parole number too, because almost nobody is going to take him seriously his entire life.
2012-02-18 10:53:45 AM  
1 votes:

LoneWolf343: Hasn't violent crime been going down?


Sure, but not enough to counteract the fact that snowflakes have become even more precious, weak.
2012-02-18 10:34:06 AM  
1 votes:

Bacon Bits: "Ask yourself a question - is that safe for the child? If you wouldn't want your child doing it, we probably don't need somebody else's child doing it," said Sergeant Lyle Waterworth.

Ok, Sergeant McDouchenozzle. You want to argue that it's not safe for a 10 year old kid to walk 5 miles in broad daylight your town? Perhaps you should get off your ass and fix that. Protect and serve, you son of a biatch.


Bravo.
2012-02-18 10:33:34 AM  
1 votes:
FTA: "Ask yourself a question - is that safe for the child? If you wouldn't want your child doing it, we probably don't need somebody else's child doing it," said Sergeant Lyle Waterworth.

The problem with this reasoning is that there's always somebody with a lower bar for "unsafe." Using Waterworth's logic, we'd be transporting our children in meteor and microbe-proof bubbles. Somebody, somewhere, will always think you're endangering your kids.

Kids are tougher than today's parents seem to think, and overprotecting them is harming them far more than the occasional fall from a tree is likely to do.

/walked, cycled, or went skiing the 2 miles to my school
//not abusive
///unlike school itself
2012-02-18 10:28:36 AM  
1 votes:

FriarReb98: I understand that we no longer live in a "safe" world.


WUT?

No, we live in a media- and politically-fueled world of manufactured irrational fear.

Kids are not allowed to go outside and play and ride bikes because some helicopter parent can't let their snowflake breathe outside air.

By age 9, I had a bus pass for trips over 2 miles as my mom was not my personal taxi service.
2012-02-18 10:27:41 AM  
1 votes:
Good on Mom. Even the boy understands. (That actually speaks well for him)

An hour in jail and a dollar fine.
2012-02-18 10:25:46 AM  
1 votes:
Good on her.
She did the right thing in my opinion.
I have walked at least that going to school before.
Heck I was a latch key kid starting at 6.

//Up hill both ways.
2012-02-18 10:20:50 AM  
1 votes:

Lsherm: Well, 9 or 10 is a little young to walk alone to school, but if she had followed him, it sounds like the punishment was actually making the kid learn something. God forbid.

Next time, walk with him.


Since when? I walked to school alone from the age of 8.

/In my day...!
//I sound old...
2012-02-18 10:20:08 AM  
1 votes:
I guess Nequavion means "he who walks far". Or, mom threw up the scrabble tiles and named the kid.
2012-02-18 08:58:18 AM  
1 votes:
I understand that we no longer live in a "safe" world. I understand that it's not like my mom's upbringing, where if she had gone to public school instead of parochial my grandmother could have watched her walk the 250 yards to school by looking out the front window of the house. (My dad had to walk twice as far, though I'm not sure if he cut through the yards to save the difference.) But let's be honest here: Most of us think the mom did the right thing. Most of us think this is probably the first time the mom did anything to discipline the kid. And most of us probably want to think everyone can and should be able to do things like this.

\lived just over 5 miles to where I went for 4th grade, with just under half of that along US-6
\\would've sucked, too many hills :P
2012-02-18 08:45:41 AM  
1 votes:
The boy is 10 for crissakes. He is learning consequences to bad behavior.

/nequavion, please.
 
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