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2012-02-18 05:49:06 AM
I hate watching a book twice
 
2012-02-18 06:29:30 AM
Bad storytelling can make it an ordeal to keep track of characters and plot lines. The second time through, you can stop trying to figure out who the blond guy's brother is and enjoy the presentation.
 
2012-02-18 06:32:55 AM
Of course, the article takes a more sophisticated view. Well, it hadn't occurred to me to wonder how "the German philosopher Martin Heidegger" looks at this...
 
2012-02-18 08:47:17 AM
I see what you did there.
 
2012-02-18 09:27:13 AM
At least the second time around I knew what was in the farking box. Or knew that they wouldn't say what was inside the case.
 
2012-02-18 10:06:12 AM
this thread is so much better the second time around.
 
2012-02-18 10:09:17 AM
I still replay old video games for many of those same reasons. I mean, what was the underlying philosophical significance of Sub-Zero's friendship move that made it differ from Reptile's?
 
2012-02-18 10:10:53 AM
SHE'S A DUDE, MAN!
 
2012-02-18 10:23:41 AM
I can't stand to re-read a book or re-watch a movie unless at least 5 years have passed. Usually closer to 10 years before I'm interested in it again.
 
2012-02-18 10:27:11 AM
What isn't better the second time?
 
2012-02-18 10:28:23 AM
I'd say various reasons, to see things that might have been missed, to pay attention to other areas that you didn't realized were important to the story, because you simply enjoy the story, the boobies were worth seeing again.

I find with music, sometimes I get an album, don't really get much out of it the first time, then listen to it again, maybe even a few times in the background and then some songs hit me more than others. Many times, the "popular" song ends up the least attractive of the album.
 
2012-02-18 10:34:51 AM
LewDux: What isn't better the second time?

Yesterday's lunch.
 
2012-02-18 10:35:35 AM
LewDux: What isn't better the second time?

Cannibal! the Musical (new window)
 
2012-02-18 10:46:34 AM
Watching the movies being released more than once? Ah HELL NAW!

Most are barely worth one viewing.
 
2012-02-18 10:52:54 AM
There is little reason to read a movie a twice. The second time through you should remember what is being said and can ignore the subtitles, enabling you to focus more on the cinematography and facial expressions.
 
2012-02-18 10:54:15 AM
"Memento" is one movie that I can name that I think is best on the first viewing. "Psycho" would probably qualify too.
 
2012-02-18 11:00:43 AM
thatguyoverthere70: "Memento" is one movie that I can name that I think is best on the first viewing. "Psycho" would probably qualify too.

Whereas 6th Sense is, arguably, better the second time around.

/drtfa, why would i do something silly like that?
 
2012-02-18 11:07:14 AM
When I watch something for the second time, I very often pick up on little details or bits of dialogue that I missed the first time.
 
2012-02-18 11:12:52 AM
You get a lot of stuff on 2nd viewings of great movies. Watch something like Pulp Fiction and you're consuming the visuals and dialogue on 1st viewing, but 2nd viewing, you think more about the characters. Now, most people think Pulp Fiction is just some cool cultural reference shiat, but Tarantino is basically making a morality tale mixed up in all that shiat - all the people who do the right thing end up doing OK at the end.
 
2012-02-18 11:27:33 AM
Porktropolis: this thread is so much better the second time around.

Hell yeah it is. I got to report each thread as being a duplicate of an approved thread. Take that, banninators.

/yeah me
 
2012-02-18 11:40:46 AM
FTA: New research reveals why people like to reread books, re-watch movies and generally repeat the same experiences over and over again. It's not addictive or ritualistic behavior, but rather a conscious effort to probe deeper layers of significance in the revisited material, while also reflecting on one's own growth through the lens of the familiar book, movie or place.

Crsitel Russell is an ignorant pissant, if she thinks that restating the premise of all art is in some way new research. People like this should have their funding cut. However, now if anyone at my university considers hiring somebody from "American University" I can bring up this embarrassing story about them and turn the conversation into a "HhahahahaNO."
 
2012-02-18 11:42:56 AM
Admin today is funny :)
 
2012-02-18 12:00:28 PM
tl;dr
anyone have the short version?
 
2012-02-18 12:33:43 PM
namatad

tl;dr
anyone have the short version?


tl
 
2012-02-18 01:16:22 PM
Porktropolis: this thread is so much better the second time around.

Fark you, I was reading this thread before it was cool. Now it's too mainstream.
 
2012-02-18 01:40:37 PM
It's not addictive or ritualistic behavior, but rather a conscious effort to probe deeper layers of significance in the revisited material, while also reflecting on one's own growth through the lens of the familiar book, movie or place.

Well, no shiat!!
 
2012-02-18 01:45:57 PM
Colin O'Scopy: It's not addictive or ritualistic behavior, but rather a conscious effort to probe deeper layers of significance in the revisited material, while also reflecting on one's own growth through the lens of the familiar book, movie or place.

Well, no shiat!!


Well, it certainly explains the persistent popularity of "Three Stooges" marathons...
 
2012-02-18 02:25:10 PM
It would have been more amusing if you had duplicated all the comments in the first thread at the time of creating this one.
 
2012-02-18 02:26:17 PM
Man, reading this thread for the second time I noticed a whole bunch of stuff I totally missed the first time around. It's almost like it's a whole 'nother thread.
 
2012-02-18 02:31:19 PM
wiredroach: Man, reading this thread for the second time I noticed a whole bunch of stuff I totally missed the first time around. It's almost like it's a whole 'nother thread.

I know. It's almost as if I find myself compelled to make a conscious effort to probe deeper layers of significance.
 
2012-02-18 02:32:49 PM
Candygram4Mongo: wiredroach: Man, reading this thread for the second time I noticed a whole bunch of stuff I totally missed the first time around. It's almost like it's a whole 'nother thread.

I know. It's almost as if I find myself compelled to make a conscious effort to probe deeper layers of significance.


Hopefully there'll be a third...
 
2012-02-18 02:41:10 PM
There really is an entire article written about something that should be common sense? You notice more. Although for the life of me I cannot understand why anyone would read or watch any of the Twilight late-term abortions once let alone twice.
 
2012-02-18 02:52:22 PM
They remind me of your mom?
 
2012-02-18 03:00:56 PM
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2012-02-18 04:06:05 PM
When I was but a wee-lad, I read Harry Potter, like 1-5 (6/7 having not been released).

Then several years passed, and I reread them all 1-7 (so I guess read 6/7 for the first time). It's amazing how, with a critical mind, you can analyze and break down the characters. You can tell that Rowling was debating between writing a children's book and writing a more adult version in 1-3, and she finally takes off the kid gloves in 4, going full on death and misery. The characters grow from being simple good/evil and two dimensional to multifaceted and grey. It's really rather interesting, until you realize that you're sitting there critically analyzing a book about wizards.
 
2012-02-18 04:31:47 PM
thatguyoverthere70: "Memento" is one movie that I can name that I think is best on the first viewing. "Psycho" would probably qualify too.

And Training Day.
 
2012-02-18 05:25:46 PM
First time through, I focus on what happens.

Second time through, I focus on why things happened. It's like looking at blueprints and then watching a building being built.
 
2012-02-18 05:31:10 PM
I enjoyed David Foster Wallace's Infinite Jest when I read it, but I think I'll love it even more the second time because maybe then it'll finally make some farking sense.
 
2012-02-18 05:48:54 PM
faulty premise is faulty.
 
2012-02-18 06:23:55 PM
Watching books is pretty boring.
 
2012-02-18 06:24:34 PM
sendtodave: Watching books is pretty boring.

Oh, sorry, wrong thread.
 
2012-02-18 06:35:03 PM
sendtodave: sendtodave: Watching books is pretty boring.

Oh, sorry, wrong thread.


And in his reposting, of course, sendtodave is reflecting on one's own growth through the lens of the familiar discussion.
 
2012-02-18 06:44:04 PM
JasonOfOrillia: SHE'S A DUDE, MAN!

His WIFE did it!

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2012-02-18 06:49:50 PM
fusillade762: JasonOfOrillia: SHE'S A DUDE, MAN!

His WIFE did it!

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EVIL!
 
2012-02-18 07:08:46 PM
HMS_Blinkin: Porktropolis: this thread is so much better the second time around.

Fark you, I was reading this thread before it was cool. Now it's too mainstream.


I heard they had more money for special effects in this thread but I feel it just takes away from the story.
 
2012-02-18 07:09:57 PM
Yaxe: When I was but a wee-lad, I read Harry Potter, like 1-5 (6/7 having not been released).

Then several years passed, and I reread them all 1-7 (so I guess read 6/7 for the first time). It's amazing how, with a critical mind, you can analyze and break down the characters. You can tell that Rowling was debating between writing a children's book and writing a more adult version in 1-3, and she finally takes off the kid gloves in 4, going full on death and misery. The characters grow from being simple good/evil and two dimensional to multifaceted and grey. It's really rather interesting, until you realize that you're sitting there critically analyzing a book about wizards.


I don't think she was "debating" anything. I think it was very intentional to make book 1 appropriate for 11 year olds and book 7 appropriate for 17 year olds. The fact that you didn't notice that the first time around might mean that you were in the target market and she did a good job making the transition along with the age of the reader. Re-reading/watching as an adult will make it plainly obvious...

Now, that's a tough feat for an author, and I've never *read* the books so I have no idea how well she did. I think movies 1 and 2 were a little too intense for their age group. I think movie 3 nailed it, and I think the changes in directors make the movies all wonky.

Either way it's fun to see things youth and be part of the intended audience and get immersed in something (or even to be an adult and shut your brain off for a while) and then it's also fun to look at the same stuff as an adult with a mind critical enough to see the seams in the tapestry.
 
2012-02-19 02:35:10 AM
I want to tell you that this was not the case for any of the Star Wars Prequels. Subsequent viewings were significantly worse than initial viewings, with the exception of Episode 1, which just got better by comparison.
 
2012-02-19 09:56:42 AM
Too bad they never got around to making any sequels for the Matrix...
 
2012-02-19 10:04:12 AM
Nintenfreak: I want to tell you that this was not the case for any of the Star Wars Prequels. Subsequent viewings were significantly worse than initial viewings, with the exception of Episode 1, which just got better by comparison.

I'm reading the Episode One novelization right now, so I'm getting a kick to the head out of your post.
 
2012-02-19 01:58:28 PM
I prefer the original.

Mostly because of
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