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(ABC News)   If Mitt Romney loses Michigan, the GOP needs a new candidate: Jeb Bush, says top GOP Senator   (abcnews.go.com ) divider line
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2012-02-18 01:37:13 AM  
Buddy Roemer (new window)
 
2012-02-18 01:54:09 AM  
Bush? Never heard of him. Such an unusual name. Might be a problem for him, overcoming poor name recognition.
 
2012-02-18 02:21:26 AM  
It'll be Darth Cheney.
 
2012-02-18 08:43:06 AM  
Good ol' Bush the Porcine.

I was wondering why we haven't heard more about him.
 
2012-02-18 09:05:52 AM  
No more farking Bushes. No more farking Kennedys. No more farking Clintons. We fought a war to get away from that royalty shiat.
 
2012-02-18 09:30:50 AM  

acanuck: Buddy Roemer (new window)


Buddy is the only candidate for the Presidency on the GOP side that deserves your vote.

Period.
 
2012-02-18 09:37:22 AM  
The national polling done with a Bush-Obama match up has Obama up by 8 points with people only knowing the name Bush. Jeb loses because people still hate his brother. That's not even counting the Teri Schaivo stuff. Jeb will not be a sacrificially lamb just so the party doesn't lose house seats. Erik Ericcson is right, this is battle over the soul of the party and just like in '72 with the Democrats the more energized side will win.

I'd like to start by offering all the lost GOPers a spot in the Democratic Party. It's a big ten, we still love you even if you have a few backwards ideas. Mind Big Gay Tony in the back, he's huggy but grabby. Though I think some of you are okay with that.
 
2012-02-18 09:53:02 AM  

hubiestubert: acanuck: Buddy Roemer (new window)

Buddy is the only candidate for the Presidency on the GOP side that deserves your vote.

Period.


Income taxes would be simplified to a flat tax, with an individual exemption of $50,000. A flat tax of 17 percent would be paid on all income beyond that. This means that individuals making $50,000 or less would pay no income tax, while those making more than $100,000 would have an effective tax rate of 8.5 percent.

Um. no thanks.
 
2012-02-18 10:12:57 AM  

Mugato: No more farking Bushes. No more farking Kennedys. No more farking Clintons. We fought a war to get away from that royalty shiat.


The Bushes are at generation 3. The Kennedys are at generation 3, at the least. The Clintons have Bill and Hillary, both of the same generation. There's no comparison between them and the Bushes or Kennedys.
 
2012-02-18 10:17:32 AM  
It is so amusing how obviously no democrat wants Santorum, and nobody in the GOP hierarchy really wants him either.

He said Santorum would only win 15 states.

Let me try to figure out which ones he thinks Santorum would win:
Alaska, Idaho, Utah, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Wyoming, Arkansas, Texas, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky, South Carolina

That would be my list of probable Santorum or Gingrich state wins.... which is 16 states, I think one of the Dakotas and Montana were just slightly republican last time, so, maybe he thinks one of those would go democratic as well.

Although, I didn't even put Indiana or Missouri on that list, and I think it is doubtful Obama wins those either, even if they picked a derpy candidate.

Obama is pretty safe since I think all the main swing states will go his way (Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida)... sweeping those 3 for either party generally puts you in a pretty safe position. I don't know if he'll be strong enough to win my bosses bet that he'd get reelected with 400 EV... although if Santorum gets the nom I think he'll be feeling pretty good about that.
 
2012-02-18 10:33:39 AM  
ROFL, yeah. give that a try.
 
2012-02-18 10:43:58 AM  
Didn't we already pass the point where a new candidate is mathematically unable to get enough votes to win the primary?

/notwithstanding the delegates' ability to vote for whoever they want
 
2012-02-18 11:01:16 AM  
I still think Jeb is waiting for 2016, though this time around may decide who gets to be the veep.
Bush/Santorum 2016?
 
2012-02-18 11:02:24 AM  

The Onion is prophetic: Didn't we already pass the point where a new candidate is mathematically unable to get enough votes to win the primary?


Probably not, though they'd likely be unable to get on the ballots for the remaining states. A Jeb scenario could theoretically happen in a brokered convention. The longer Newt (and to an extent, Paul) stays in, the less the chance either Santorum or Romney can win the nomination outright.
 
2012-02-18 11:02:44 AM  

Mugato: No more farking Bushes. No more farking Kennedys. No more farking Clintons. We fought a war to get away from that royalty shiat.


I'd take 10 more Clintons in a row if they all did as good a job as Bill did. I'd even vote for another Bush if they managed to find one that's actually competent.
 
2012-02-18 11:03:31 AM  
Wasn't Jeb Bush one of the handful of people who were instrumental in helping W "win" in 2000?
 
2012-02-18 11:04:30 AM  

dletter: It is so amusing how obviously no every democrat wants Santorum, and nobody in the GOP hierarchy really wants him either.


FTFA
 
2012-02-18 11:04:39 AM  
"It will have put Santorum in a position of being able to win the nomination and, potentially, the Presidency. We cannot run the risk of Rick winning the Presidency. I think Jeb [Bush] would probably be our best bet to ruin any chance we have of regaining the White House. We have already put a lot of time and effort into giving ourself a lot of bad press and it would be a shame to have all that wasted.", the senator later added.
 
2012-02-18 11:05:29 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: hubiestubert: acanuck: Buddy Roemer (new window)

Buddy is the only candidate for the Presidency on the GOP side that deserves your vote.

Period.

Income taxes would be simplified to a flat tax, with an individual exemption of $50,000. A flat tax of 17 percent would be paid on all income beyond that. This means that individuals making $50,000 or less would pay no income tax, while those making more than $100,000 would have an effective tax rate of 8.5 percent.

Um. no thanks.


Really? You'd rather have a tax system that lets people making billions of dollars a year pay a lower tax rate than people making less than 100 grand? Why is that?
 
2012-02-18 11:07:02 AM  

King Something: Wasn't Jeb Bush one of the handful of people who were instrumental in helping W "win" in 2000?


Al Gore was the most instrumental for W winning in 2000.
 
2012-02-18 11:08:08 AM  

RodneyToady: The Bushes are at generation 3. The Kennedys are at generation 3, at the least. The Clintons have Bill and Hillary, both of the same generation. There's no comparison between them and the Bushes or Kennedys.


2.bp.blogspot.com

SOON
 
2012-02-18 11:09:19 AM  

Serious Black: cameroncrazy1984: hubiestubert: acanuck: Buddy Roemer (new window)

Buddy is the only candidate for the Presidency on the GOP side that deserves your vote.

Period.

Income taxes would be simplified to a flat tax, with an individual exemption of $50,000. A flat tax of 17 percent would be paid on all income beyond that. This means that individuals making $50,000 or less would pay no income tax, while those making more than $100,000 would have an effective tax rate of 8.5 percent.

Um. no thanks.

Really? You'd rather have a tax system that lets people making billions of dollars a year pay a lower tax rate than people making less than 100 grand? Why is that?


Because it is "retirement income". And whenever anyone talks about raising the cap gains tax rate the talking heads start screaming about how it will screw retirees. A smart solution would be to have graduated tax rates on long-term capital gains. If you make over a million in a year your rate should be higher than grandma who made 20-30k.
 
2012-02-18 11:12:52 AM  

Serious Black: cameroncrazy1984: hubiestubert: acanuck: Buddy Roemer (new window)

Buddy is the only candidate for the Presidency on the GOP side that deserves your vote.

Period.

Income taxes would be simplified to a flat tax, with an individual exemption of $50,000. A flat tax of 17 percent would be paid on all income beyond that. This means that individuals making $50,000 or less would pay no income tax, while those making more than $100,000 would have an effective tax rate of 8.5 percent.

Um. no thanks.

Really? You'd rather have a tax system that lets people making billions of dollars a year pay a lower tax rate than people making less than 100 grand? Why is that?


We can change that without moving to a flat tax; there are tons of options besides the status quo and a flat tax.

Would this 17% flat rate also apply to corporate income and capital gains?
 
2012-02-18 11:14:13 AM  
Your savior of the Republican party is going to be another Bush? GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!
 
2012-02-18 11:14:51 AM  
Top...men.
 
2012-02-18 11:15:07 AM  
Wouldn't Santorum be the "will of the people" if Romney chokes (ohpleaseohpleaseohplease...)?
 
2012-02-18 11:15:31 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: hubiestubert: acanuck: Buddy Roemer (new window)

Buddy is the only candidate for the Presidency on the GOP side that deserves your vote.

Period.

Income taxes would be simplified to a flat tax, with an individual exemption of $50,000. A flat tax of 17 percent would be paid on all income beyond that. This means that individuals making $50,000 or less would pay no income tax, while those making more than $100,000 would have an effective tax rate of 8.5 percent.

Um. no thanks.


you're not very good at math are you ?
 
2012-02-18 11:15:46 AM  
The Republican Party is coming apart like a styrofoam cup covered in gasoline. Jeb Bush, really??

Not to mention they're already calling for Mitt's head a little over six months before the goddamn election.

This just keeps getting funnier.
 
2012-02-18 11:16:36 AM  
How about this Jon Huntsman guy? The moderates like him. He served on many important positions. He also has enough experience to shame many presidential candidates, past or present. I heard he was thinking of running for presidency also.
 
2012-02-18 11:17:01 AM  

moralpanic: Your savior of the Republican party is going to be another Bush? GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!


yah, pretty much this.

if i lived in michigan, i know which ballot i'd ask for...the goddamn lulz alone demand it.
 
2012-02-18 11:19:54 AM  

hubiestubert: acanuck: Buddy Roemer (new window)

Buddy is the only candidate for the Presidency on the GOP side that deserves your vote.

Period.


So I just read Buddy's page and it looks like it could be written by any other GOP candidate. Why do you guys think he's so special? What am I missing.
 
2012-02-18 11:21:10 AM  
I at least give them credit for not trying to nominate Ted Nugent.
 
2012-02-18 11:21:26 AM  
Jeb won't run this year. His chances are orders of magnitude better against the potential Democratic field in 2016.
 
2012-02-18 11:21:56 AM  
i6.photobucket.com
 
2012-02-18 11:22:08 AM  
Speaking of dynasties, remember that Romney's dad ran for President.
 
2012-02-18 11:23:49 AM  

qorkfiend: Serious Black: cameroncrazy1984: hubiestubert: acanuck: Buddy Roemer (new window)

Buddy is the only candidate for the Presidency on the GOP side that deserves your vote.

Period.

Income taxes would be simplified to a flat tax, with an individual exemption of $50,000. A flat tax of 17 percent would be paid on all income beyond that. This means that individuals making $50,000 or less would pay no income tax, while those making more than $100,000 would have an effective tax rate of 8.5 percent.

Um. no thanks.

Really? You'd rather have a tax system that lets people making billions of dollars a year pay a lower tax rate than people making less than 100 grand? Why is that?

We can change that without moving to a flat tax; there are tons of options besides the status quo and a flat tax.

Would this 17% flat rate also apply to corporate income and capital gains?


I believe it would. He specifically mentions on his website that he wants to essentially abolish all tax expenditures as a part of his tax reform plan.
 
2012-02-18 11:25:51 AM  

blackminded: RodneyToady: The Bushes are at generation 3. The Kennedys are at generation 3, at the least. The Clintons have Bill and Hillary, both of the same generation. There's no comparison between them and the Bushes or Kennedys.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 300x405]

SOON


She turned out a lot prettier than one would have thought
 
2012-02-18 11:29:30 AM  

tcan: hubiestubert: acanuck: Buddy Roemer (new window)

Buddy is the only candidate for the Presidency on the GOP side that deserves your vote.

Period.

So I just read Buddy's page and it looks like it could be written by any other GOP candidate. Why do you guys think he's so special? What am I missing.


I must have been asleep the day every Republican candidate announced that they support reinstating Glass-Steagall and fighting big money interests in lobbying Congress and donating to campaigns.
 
2012-02-18 11:29:42 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: hubiestubert: acanuck: Buddy Roemer (new window)

Buddy is the only candidate for the Presidency on the GOP side that deserves your vote.

Period.

Income taxes would be simplified to a flat tax, with an individual exemption of $50,000. A flat tax of 17 percent would be paid on all income beyond that. This means that individuals making $50,000 or less would pay no income tax, while those making more than $100,000 would have an effective tax rate of 8.5 percent.

Um. no thanks.


A flat tax would have to be more like 35% to bring in the same revenue we have right now. Double no thanks.
 
2012-02-18 11:35:05 AM  

qorkfiend: Jeb won't run this year. His chances are orders of magnitude better against the potential Democratic field in 2016.


This. The republicans have no intention of running a real candidate against an incumbent. It's not how power sharing works. They want to get Romney and Gingrich out of the way and set up a Bush/Santorum ticket for 2016.
 
2012-02-18 11:37:21 AM  

blackminded: SOON


Eh, maybe. I don't know. I haven't gotten the impression she's interested in running for public office. Her education background seems to suggest more of a think tank/university professor path. Or maybe a diplomat.
 
2012-02-18 11:38:42 AM  

Mugato: No more farking Bushes. No more farking Kennedys. No more farking Clintons. We fought a war to get away from that royalty shiat.


that is not what the war in iraq was about.
 
2012-02-18 11:40:14 AM  
I thought all the viable candidates were already in the race or have dropped out. Are you saying that the GOP has been holding out on us? That there are better GOP candidates and that that GOP is not running them? Seriously?

What a terrible way to run a major party.
 
2012-02-18 11:41:13 AM  

Kurmudgeon: I still think Jeb is waiting for 2016, though this time around may decide who gets to be the veep.
Bush/Santorum 2016?


Bush/Santorum?

Leave your freaky/disgusting fetishes out of fark, dude!
 
2012-02-18 11:41:42 AM  

Mugato: No more farking Bushes. No more farking Kennedys. No more farking Clintons. We fought a war to get away from that royalty shiat.


THIS


New Rule: If anyone within 2 generations of you has ever been elected to an office, you are ineligible for that office. Tough noogies, we don't need dynasties, royalty or aristocracy.
 
2012-02-18 11:42:02 AM  

Kumana Wanalaia: [i6.photobucket.com image 600x323]


my guess is that she would be impeached before she could resign. not that she could ever win. it would require the death of every democrat voter and most independent voters.
 
2012-02-18 11:42:06 AM  

Mugato: No more farking Bushes. No more farking Kennedys. No more farking Clintons. We fought a war to get away from that royalty shiat.


One of these things is not like the other.
 
2012-02-18 11:43:17 AM  

WTF Indeed: The national polling done with a Bush-Obama match up has Obama up by 8 points with people only knowing the name Bush. Jeb loses because people still hate his brother.


Yep. Dubya farked up the brand name so bad that it even made Poppy cry thinking about how poor Jebby was never going to get his shot at the brass ring.
 
2012-02-18 11:44:27 AM  

RodneyToady: Mugato: No more farking Bushes. No more farking Kennedys. No more farking Clintons. We fought a war to get away from that royalty shiat.

The Bushes are at generation 3. The Kennedys are at generation 3, at the least. The Clintons have Bill and Hillary, both of the same generation. There's no comparison between them and the Bushes or Kennedys.


Indeed. Add to that the fact that the Bushes and Kennedys are OLD money, and almost American royalty in their own way. Say what you want about Bill and Hillary, but they were not born into fame and fortune. That is especially true of Bill.
 
2012-02-18 11:46:23 AM  

tomWright: Mugato: No more farking Bushes. No more farking Kennedys. No more farking Clintons. We fought a war to get away from that royalty shiat.

THIS


New Rule: If anyone within 2 generations of you has ever been elected to an office, you are ineligible for that office. Tough noogies, we don't need dynasties, royalty or aristocracy.


meh
can we just go with a general IQ test or general knowledge test?
figure 100 questions covering 10-50 different fields including 1 question each from
the bible
physics
chemistry
american history
world history
finance
fiat currency
geography
geology

basically require any candidates to be able to actively prove they are smarter than the average high school graduate.
Plus the REAL nightmare has been caused by all the staffers which never go away and never get elected.
the Rumsfelds and Haigs and what not ...

(nothing allowed from sports)
 
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