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2012-02-18 01:05:40 AM  

TheBigJerk: The globe cannot POSSIBLY be warming up OR caused by man because if that were true then the obviously necessary course of action would be for the Boomer generation to stop the egregiously wasteful lifestyles they are accustomed to for the benefit of not COMPLETELY RUINING the future for succeeding generations.


Are you seriously implying that the post-boomer generation doesn't expect an even higher standard of consumer crap, trinkets and stuff?
 
2012-02-18 01:06:32 AM  
I feel the same way about the Global Warming zealots as I do about the Religious zealots............just because you say it with conviction doesn't make it any truer.
 
2012-02-18 01:07:25 AM  

EnderX: I feel the same way about the Global Warming zealots as I do about the Religious zealots............just because you say it with conviction doesn't make it any truer.


Say what?
 
2012-02-18 01:07:44 AM  

Kome: thenateman: In the state of nature, life is solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short.

Well, if it's solitary, poor, nasty and brutish, perhaps the only blessing is that it's short.


Hobbes considered that, but he advocated the social contract instead.

Anyway, I appreciate the conversation but I must leave.
 
2012-02-18 01:07:48 AM  

Kazan: thenateman: Kazan: the simple fact is the american economy - and most eastern coastal cities - will be utterly farked.

Why are they farked? Did they forget how to build sea walls, or did the global warming destroy every bridge, seaport and airport linking them to food?

sea walls aren't expensive as fark?
they're not prone to failure (*cough*NOLA*cough*)?
the rising price of food won't fark the entire population of the united states over?
the loss of farm income (fundamental to our economy) in the midwest won't fark over the entire country?


Rozotorical: Kazan: Blacksmithking: I'm neither supporting nor speaking against socialism, I'm just curious to hear why you think it's not "okay".

It's generally not as efficient as capitalism at satisfying economic desires given the knowledge problem of central planners. How's that?

that is an actually debateable and cogent point. well sad.

personally i think capitalism (well maintained capitalism - not laissez-faire shiat) combined with socialism is a better solution. a little bit of hybrid vigor so to speak. in some areas capitalism just cannot work - such as providing health care - it is just fundamentally broken. in most other places it does pretty well - so long as we make sure people don't abuse the system (such as by externalizing their costs on everyone else).


Rozotorical: Nah man the water levels are already rising the "swallowing" has started. Venice is the worst case right now, but every coastal city has started to feel the effect. Drastically rising sea levels can not be prevented at this point. For example, NYC. Link (new window)

i know they're already rising, but they've only started rising enough to threaten the VERY low lying cities.


Just so happens a lot of the great cities are built on river delta areas that are very are in low lying areas.

Link (new window)
Link (new window)

Dozens more if you are still interested.

dude, i'm agreeing with you - i'm just trying to temper you're language so a ...


I know you are and you are wrong for doing it. The time to be alarmed was 25 years a go.
Link (new window)
 
2012-02-18 01:08:12 AM  

EnderX: I feel the same way about the Global Warming zealots as I do about the Religious zealots............just because you say it with conviction doesn't make it any truer.


So you deny the science is real? What ?
 
2012-02-18 01:08:52 AM  

thenateman: How expensive are the alternatives?


upgrading our energy infrastructure and increasing efficiency? much less, and they're things we have to do whether or not global warming exist.

we HAVE to maintain and/or upgrade our energy infrastructure - unless you like blackouts.
we HAVE to increase our efficiency - unless you like your energy bills going up

so - as part of our normal maintenance cycles of our energy infrastructure - we have to spend this money anyway. accelerating it a little and replacing the crappy systems with newer and better technology is not going to be more than a blip on our long term economy.
 
2012-02-18 01:11:03 AM  

whatshisname: Are you seriously implying that the post-boomer generation doesn't expect an even higher standard of consumer crap, trinkets and stuff?


did the boomers teach them otherwise?

no?

then of course not.

EnderX: I feel the same way about the Global Warming zealots as I do about the Religious zealots............just because you say it with conviction doesn't make it any truer.


AGW denial is the religious position. perhaps you should remove cranium from anus.
 
2012-02-18 01:11:41 AM  

thenateman: whatshisname: thenateman: Of all the third world's problems, Global Warming isn't one.

It is really. I've talked to subsistence farmers in India, Ethiopia and Bolivia. They all know global warming is happening, affecting their crops and livelihood and they realize there's not a thing they can do about it. Their way of life is threatened and they don't have any sort of mobility.

In the state of nature, life is solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short.

/Same as it ever was



Heh. The thing is that particular line, as used by Hobbes, was not meant as a normative statement as you appear to be using it, but instead as a reason why a strong central government is necessary (in his case an absolute monarch). It was meant to be a reason to do something about it, not a state we can simply accept.
 
2012-02-18 01:11:43 AM  
I feel the same way about the Gravity zealots as I do about the Religious zealots............just because you say it with conviction doesn't make it any truer.
 
2012-02-18 01:12:27 AM  

boobsrgood: See? Hysteria!

[i242.photobucket.com image 403x500]


HOAX! That is not the same guy!!
 
2012-02-18 01:13:57 AM  

Rozotorical: I feel the same way about the Gravity zealots as I do about the Religious zealots............just because you say it with conviction doesn't make it any truer.


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2OR8by61ykM/ShneQCrTj6I/AAAAAAAAASs/lDve_qB J Ovo/s400/Gravity+Just+a+Theory.jpg

Evangelical Scientists Refute Gravity Unfortunately, at this stage in the game, I'd be apt to believe the article if it wasn't written by The Onion.
 
2012-02-18 01:14:29 AM  

lokisbong: EnderX: I feel the same way about the Global Warming zealots as I do about the Religious zealots............just because you say it with conviction doesn't make it any truer.

So you deny the science is real? What ?


For real. At some point you have to ignore the messengers and look at the message. In this case, the message is the data that is pretty easily accessible through international reports, peer-reviewed publications, and so on.

People who argue an anti-technology/anti-industry solution annoy me. We're pretty clever creatures when we want to be. We could just design more fuel efficient, clean energy technologies and industries - and to some degree we already have in spite of massive resistance to it. But as much as they annoy me, their underlying reason for espousing the crap they do is pretty sound. There is a problem. The data is pretty rock solid. Time to move to the next stage in the conversation.

I just think a lot of people are resistant to the idea because some of the immediate courses of action recommended are personally inconvenient. Drive less, use less, etc. etc. So they justify their decision to continue to be wasteful by saying it's not a problem. Cognitive dissonance 101.
 
2012-02-18 01:14:59 AM  

cman: Where is the ice age promised to us in the 70s?


When was an ice age promised to us in the 70s? I keep hearing about this mystical ice age promised to us in the 70s, but the best I've seen of any evidence of that is that there was some articles published in TIME magazine of a scientist that expected the next ice age would come in several thousand years, a few thousand years earlier than expected, but still -- thousands of years away.
 
2012-02-18 01:15:10 AM  
Oh wth. HTML fail

3.bp.blogspot.com

Putting in tags usually helps a bit.
 
2012-02-18 01:16:59 AM  

Kome: You can't dump that much carbon dioxide into the atmosphere through massive burning of fossil fuels and not have an effect.


Beijing

alanpaul.net
img.timeinc.net
 
2012-02-18 01:17:24 AM  

Kazan: Friction8r: while the vast majority of those in your party are inner-city, uneducated liberals

[CITATION NEEDED]


i've got some counters though

The 10 states with the lowest household median income, where people are least likely to have healthcare and most likely to live in poverty, all voted Republican in 2004. Not only are they poor, but they're getting poorer. The five states with the steepest falls in income backed Bush.

Indeed, if anything the Democrats' base seems to be among the wealthy. The same census figures showed that seven of the 10 states with the highest median incomes voted Democrat, and citizens who lived in Democrat states were less likely to live in poverty and more likely to have health insurance. And these states are getting wealthier. The five with the sharpest increase in income all voted Democrat in 2004.
Link (new window)

Friction8r: As for global warming, the earth is billions of years old and we've been around about 10,000 years. Mother Nature will swat us like flies any time she wants, and psycho nutjob liberals will blame Bushia

that argument?

you know those fossil fuels we dig out of the country - coal, natural gas, oil, etc ? it took mother nature hundreds of millions of years to lay down what we've dug up in less than 200 years.

so maybe.. you should do some math


Words and more words. Blah with a side order of blah. Over the course of millenia, the earth has been a flaming ball of fire, an endless ocean and an iceball. Lather, rinse and repeat. I'm all for a clean earth, new technologies and efficient, practical energy solutions. I've alos been to places like Zion National Park and the Grand Canyon where the evidence of the power of water is illustrated over hundreds of millions of years. Mother Nature will kick our ass any time she wants, so enjoy the moment and quit whining...but that's what libs do best. The New Madrid fault is ready to kick our asses again at any time, and it will no doubt be Bush's fault!
 
2012-02-18 01:17:46 AM  
I thought this was an interesting look at global warming, though we probably should be giving some consideration to our pooping where we eat.

Climategate: the video everyone should see (new window)
 
2012-02-18 01:17:53 AM  

Kazan: Popular Opinion: i have no problem with the concepts of utopia...socialism, communism, whatever...
BUT, history shows it doesn't work.
Men (not man), are selfish, envious, dishonest (and worse), so there will always be corruption and cronyism. if your opinion is radically different from mine, i'd suggest you visit some socialist countries and perhaps get another perspective.

communism and laissez-faire "capitalism" are the two extremes - and history shows that they don't work. because both of these require everyone to be honest and/or unselfish.

more mainstream forms of both capitalism and socialism - particularly mixings of the two - don't require that.

germany is socialist and they're perfectly fine, in fact they're economy is healthier (albeit not as large) as the united state's economy. socialism and capitalism can both be taken to extremes, or bee poorly managed, etc.


neither germany, nor most of its neighbors are socialist countries, although the levels of taxation to fund social programs is beyond our own in may cases.
social capitalism is a term i've heard to desribe much of europe.
but whatever, north korea and the former soviet states would be a better example of socialism in practice.
 
2012-02-18 01:18:53 AM  

Popular Opinion: i have no problem with the concepts of utopia...socialism, communism, whatever...
BUT, history shows it doesn't work.
Men (not man), are selfish, envious, dishonest (and worse), so there will always be corruption and cronyism. if your opinion is radically different from mine, i'd suggest you visit some socialist countries and perhaps get another perspective.


Can you name any countries that are actually socialist? I don't mean ones that use it in their name, or tell the world that their dictatorship is really socialism (I'm looking at you, Venezuela and North Korea) I mean ones that are actually, honest to goodness, socialist? China used to be socialist, but they abandoned their socialist market economy in the '80s, so I don't think you can really call them truly socialist anymore. India has a lot of the marks of socialism, but they're more a of a socialist democracy these days. I suppose Cuba might count, but I'm really leaning more toward them being in the dictatorship boat, like Venezuela and North Korea. The Nordic countries, plus Germany, aren't exclusively socialist...they've got a whole lot of democracy mixed in there.

Oh, and just to clarify, I'm using the dictionary definition of "socialism", namely: "a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole." That's why I disqualify any dictatorships. A single supreme leader is mutually exclusive with community control.

Just for the record, I wholeheartedly agree that true socialism just doesn't work. Not because the system is flawed, but because people are flawed.
 
2012-02-18 01:20:00 AM  

Kome: lokisbong: EnderX: I feel the same way about the Global Warming zealots as I do about the Religious zealots............just because you say it with conviction doesn't make it any truer.

So you deny the science is real? What ?

For real. At some point you have to ignore the messengers and look at the message. In this case, the message is the data that is pretty easily accessible through international reports, peer-reviewed publications, and so on.

People who argue an anti-technology/anti-industry solution annoy me. We're pretty clever creatures when we want to be. We could just design more fuel efficient, clean energy technologies and industries - and to some degree we already have in spite of massive resistance to it. But as much as they annoy me, their underlying reason for espousing the crap they do is pretty sound. There is a problem. The data is pretty rock solid. Time to move to the next stage in the conversation.

I just think a lot of people are resistant to the idea because some of the immediate courses of action recommended are personally inconvenient. Drive less, use less, etc. etc. So they justify their decision to continue to be wasteful by saying it's not a problem. Cognitive dissonance 101.


People are hard wired to consume when ever given the chance. Saving/preservation is a learned trait and skills that are derived from necessity. Americans will come around, unfortunately it will take a lot of hard ship first.
 
2012-02-18 01:20:31 AM  
www.wmconnolley.org.uk

National Geographic - 1976
 
2012-02-18 01:21:27 AM  

vernonFL: Kome: You can't dump that much carbon dioxide into the atmosphere through massive burning of fossil fuels and not have an effect.

Beijing

[alanpaul.net image 610x321]
[img.timeinc.net image 360x235]


i276.photobucket.com
 
2012-02-18 01:22:13 AM  

Friction8r: ...


in otherwords - you, like muck4doo, have nothing. you just have the shiat you pulled out of your ass and flung at the scientists. thanks for making that clear for the audience. now go crawl back under your rock.
 
2012-02-18 01:22:24 AM  

whatshisname: TheBigJerk: The globe cannot POSSIBLY be warming up OR caused by man because if that were true then the obviously necessary course of action would be for the Boomer generation to stop the egregiously wasteful lifestyles they are accustomed to for the benefit of not COMPLETELY RUINING the future for succeeding generations.

Are you seriously implying that the post-boomer generation doesn't expect an even higher standard of consumer crap, trinkets and stuff?


Hmm, yes. I'll roll with that.

Look we can play nuance and quibble on anecdotes but the big oversimplified picture is that the Boomers are voting Republican and the Republicans are the ones who hate, hate, HATE environmental regulation and embody the anti-green movement. The rest is farking details. Both sides are not the same and I'm not voting republican because of it.



Deal with it.
 
2012-02-18 01:22:38 AM  
www.whatsonxiamen.com

China from space.
 
2012-02-18 01:23:08 AM  
Is this the thread where mindless dittoheads support an unfalsifiable theory and talk shiat to anyone who disagrees?
 
2012-02-18 01:23:59 AM  
Ya know, everybody assumes that the earth is this huge place. It's 25000 miles around at the equator. That's not really very big.

25k miles really isn't very far. I drive a truck OTR and I drive about 125k each year. So i drive the equivalent of 5 times around the earth every year.

It's not a little place, but it's not this monstrously huge place that people imagine.

So, ya know, several hundred thousand tons of pollutants per year might actually have an effect.

But, as Saint George Carlin said, conservationists don't want to "save the earth". They want a comfortable place to live. (the bastages!)

Meaning basically, the earth doesn't need "saving"., but the humans are farked.
 
2012-02-18 01:24:08 AM  

SquiggelyGrounders: Is this the thread where mindless dittoheads support an unfalsifiable theory and talk shiat to anyone who disagrees?


Which theory would that be?
 
2012-02-18 01:25:32 AM  

Popular Opinion: neither germany, nor most of its neighbors are socialist countries, although the levels of taxation to fund social programs is beyond our own in may cases.
social capitalism is a term i've heard to desribe much of europe.
but whatever, north korea and the former soviet states would be a better example of socialism in practice.


they indeed are mixed socialist/capitalist systems. and actually germans are not really taxed much more than we are. they just get more bang for their buck.

however as someone pointed out - north korea and the former soviet states are NOT socialist.
 
2012-02-18 01:25:57 AM  

vernonFL: Kome: You can't dump that much carbon dioxide into the atmosphere through massive burning of fossil fuels and not have an effect.

Beijing

[alanpaul.net image 610x321]
[img.timeinc.net image 360x235]


You really don't know what CO2 is, do you?
 
2012-02-18 01:26:03 AM  

TheBigJerk: Both sides are not the same and I'm not voting republican because of it. Deal with it.


Yes but you're talking about a fading empire on the world stage. If anything America did these days was relevant, you might have a point, but the rest of the world looks to the US and wonders why that little backwater of backwards thought still thinks they matter.
 
2012-02-18 01:26:41 AM  

StokeyBob: I thought this was an interesting look at global warming, though we probably should be giving some consideration to our pooping where we eat.

Climategate: the video everyone should see (new window)


Next time you're in an argument with someone who is totally convinced that global warming is a) man made and b) unprecedented, why not show them this brief video from Watts Up With That? Game over! (Hat tip: Plato Says)

Mmm, yes... game over, indeed. It's from Watts Up With That?, the site that claims a corrupted .gif file on a NASA server (which was quickly repaired) is evidence of a massive scientist/NASA conspiracy and claimed "data corruption" -- their words. Clearly well-balanced, mentally stable, and trust-worthy.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/controversial-nasa-temperature- g raphic-morphs-into-garbled-mess/ (link is otherwise unfetchable).

And from the comments on the page:

Al Gored says:
February 15, 2011 at 10:51 am
Glad you are covering this! Just read about it at Steven Goddard's site after seeing it mentioned in a comment at Delingpole's.

This seems to be a "smoking gun" that anyone can understand.


QUICKLY REPAIRED FILE CORRUPTION IS THE SMOKING GUN! CONSPIRACY EXPOSED! GAME OVER, AGW RELIGIONIST JEW SCIENTISTS! GAME OVER!
 
2012-02-18 01:27:02 AM  

culebra: Yukon Callmeal: Love seeing everyone come out and double-down.

Who dragged you out of the Troll Bin? How did you get off my ignore list? Well...back you go little guy.


"you got to pay the troll toll, if you want to get this boy's soul..."
 
2012-02-18 01:27:27 AM  

SquiggelyGrounders: Is this the thread where mindless dittoheads support an unfalsifiable theory and talk shiat to anyone who disagrees?



if you're attempting to assert that global warming isn't a proper scientific theory that could be falsified with evidence... then you need to remove your cranium from your anus.
 
2012-02-18 01:29:59 AM  

culebra: SquiggelyGrounders: Is this the thread where mindless dittoheads support an unfalsifiable theory and talk shiat to anyone who disagrees?

Which theory would that be?


Global warming.... no climate change.... no global cooling... no AGW.... no the sky is falling.... no wait listen to me! Im a climatologist, I need to publish to protect my phoney-baloney job gentlemen!
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-02-18 01:30:16 AM  

whatshisname: TheBigJerk: Both sides are not the same and I'm not voting republican because of it. Deal with it.

Yes but you're talking about a fading empire on the world stage. If anything America did these days was relevant, you might have a point, but the rest of the world looks to the US and wonders why that little backwater of backwards thought still thinks they matter.


Oh, nonsense. We aren't nearly as economically influential as we once were but the United States isn't a backwater, isn't especially small or weak, and there is a broad range of perceptions regarding the degree to which we are influential among the many countries of the world.

You're getting hyperbole everywhere, it's mixing with the santorum, and we just had this place cleaned.
 
2012-02-18 01:30:51 AM  

StokeyBob: I thought this was an interesting look at global warming, though we probably should be giving some consideration to our pooping where we eat.

Climategate: the video everyone should see (new window)


East Anglia Climate Scientists Largely Cleared (new window)


"Watts up with that" is a crackpot who talks out of his ass because his mouth knows better
 
2012-02-18 01:32:15 AM  

SquiggelyGrounders: culebra: SquiggelyGrounders: Is this the thread where mindless dittoheads support an unfalsifiable theory and talk shiat to anyone who disagrees?

Which theory would that be?

Global warming.... no climate change.... no global cooling... no AGW.... no the sky is falling.... no wait listen to me! Im a climatologist, I need to publish to protect my phoney-baloney job gentlemen!
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 288x215]


So which one? Describe the theory with which you take issue.
 
2012-02-18 01:33:39 AM  

justGreg: You really don't know what CO2 is, do you?


CO2 is carbon dioxide. Its a result of burning things like wood or coal for example

www.nasa.gov

This is a view from space of the Amazon.
 
2012-02-18 01:34:21 AM  
 
2012-02-18 01:34:28 AM  

cuzsis: But I do talk regularly to people from the generation that lived during this time. They say that the big deal was global cooling. You can call them all liars if you want, but I'm not inclined to.


Except that they don't say that if they have two brain cells to rub together for warmth. Seriously, they don't. If some of these old farts are telling you that, it's because they believe everything Sean Hannity tells them, and he tells them that the evil mad scientists who are now after taxpayer money to continue their goldplated life style are flipfloppers.

And really, how can anyone capable of looking out their window be a denier?
 
2012-02-18 01:35:35 AM  

Kazan: SquiggelyGrounders: Is this the thread where mindless dittoheads support an unfalsifiable theory and talk shiat to anyone who disagrees?


if you're attempting to assert that global warming isn't a proper scientific theory that could be falsified with evidence... then you need to remove your cranium from your anus.


Right. Now how exactly is it falsifiable since any weather, no matter how expected or unexpected, supports AGW? Hmmmm?
 
2012-02-18 01:36:06 AM  

culebra: whatshisname: TheBigJerk: Both sides are not the same and I'm not voting republican because of it. Deal with it.

Yes but you're talking about a fading empire on the world stage. If anything America did these days was relevant, you might have a point, but the rest of the world looks to the US and wonders why that little backwater of backwards thought still thinks they matter.

Oh, nonsense. We aren't nearly as economically influential as we once were but the United States isn't a backwater, isn't especially small or weak, and there is a broad range of perceptions regarding the degree to which we are influential among the many countries of the world.

You're getting hyperbole everywhere, it's mixing with the santorum, and we just had this place cleaned.


many of our voters are considered backwater yokels by the rest of the developed world... and for a damn good reason.

but we're hardly not influential, that's just stupid. we just need to be a better influence.
 
2012-02-18 01:37:19 AM  

culebra: You're getting hyperbole everywhere, it's mixing with the santorum, and we just had this place cleaned.


No, I'm just watching the latest Republican debate and imagining a country which MIGHT elect one of these dingbats. America is running down a steep hill fast, with nowhere to stop.
 
2012-02-18 01:37:35 AM  

Kazan: oh and this


That's just going to be one of those charts that no matter how many times its demonstrated to be bogus, liberals never give it up....

The vast majority of people who get welfare vote Democrat. This is a fact. You will also consistently find that the people with the lowest education also vote Democrat. This is a fact. These two facts are related.

Most of your states that 'give more than they take' have one thing in common:

They are the location of many large industrial areas that in turn pay a lot of federal taxes. We have one of the highest corporate income taxes in the developed world after all.

That may not be true for all of them, but it's true for most of them.

But keep up the good liberal policies and we'll see an increasingly large number of companies leaving those "blue" states to move to the "red" ones, provided union friendly government thugs allow them to of course.
 
2012-02-18 01:38:46 AM  

Kazan: Friction8r: ...

in otherwords - you, like muck4doo, have nothing. you just have the shiat you pulled out of your ass and flung at the scientists. thanks for making that clear for the audience. now go crawl back under your rock.


Glad you brought up rocks, you anal retentive tool. Rock are hundreds of millions of years old and were created under very high pressure, high temperature environments where mankind would not have existed. Oh, and by the way oil was created that way too, but let's blame the dinosaurs and plantlife for causing it with global warming. The "scientists" are mostly usin empirical data accumulated for 100 years...and 100 million years would be a more stastically significant sample size to be even remotely relevant...much like your infantile assertions!
 
2012-02-18 01:39:55 AM  

cman: Whatever, dude.

I dont trust anyone who tells me that I am gonna die if I dont do what they say.


lh5.ggpht.com
 
2012-02-18 01:40:00 AM  

SquiggelyGrounders: Right. Now how exactly is it falsifiable since any weather, no matter how expected or unexpected, supports AGW? Hmmmm?


that's not something respectable climatologists or meteorologists have ever said. stop confusing idiots in the news media with scientists. weather can be "inconsistent", "consistent" or "not indicating" with projections of what global warming might do. we've seen things that are consistent, or non-indicating, but nothing inconsistent.

an example of weather that would be inconsistent with global warming would be a several period global cooling trend with no natural explanation, or glaciers having an increasing glacial mass balance with no increase in precipitation.



be careful who you make your bullshiat claims to, some of us are earth science geeks you actually understand the issue can explain to you why you're wrong.
 
2012-02-18 01:40:07 AM  

culebra: SquiggelyGrounders: culebra: SquiggelyGrounders: Is this the thread where mindless dittoheads support an unfalsifiable theory and talk shiat to anyone who disagrees?

Which theory would that be?

Global warming.... no climate change.... no global cooling... no AGW.... no the sky is falling.... no wait listen to me! Im a climatologist, I need to publish to protect my phoney-baloney job gentlemen!
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 288x215]

So which one? Describe the theory with which you take issue.


Funny. They are all used to describe the same thing.

Oh No! weather is changing!
i.t.com.com
Have no fear! I will save us from this contrived crisis with another peice of ineffective and costly legislation!

Ta-da! Another law saves the day
 
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