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(CBPP)   Less than 10% of entitlement spending goes toward societal leeches' binges on drugs and plasma screens   (cbpp.org) divider line 217
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2012-02-17 01:28:35 PM
Well in the case of the elderly those checks go to the Indian Casinos. They bus them out there in droves.

Red man is gonna get his revenge some how.....
 
2012-02-17 01:31:05 PM
Democrats: OK, we'll take care of poor people, yeah some people are going to scam the system, we can probably keep it to 10% or less, probably just the price you pay to take care of the poor

Republicans: not a dime to any poor if one person cheats the system! Better a thousand should starve than one of "those" people get a benefit they don't "deserve."
 
2012-02-17 01:32:14 PM
Don't forget those fancy ass refrigerators.
 
2012-02-17 01:35:46 PM
Translation: entitlement spending should be cut almost 10%, and government employees tasked with finding better ways to ensure the remaining money doesn't get misused.
 
2012-02-17 01:38:14 PM
gerrymander: Translation: entitlement spending should be cut almost 10%, and government employees tasked with finding better ways to ensure the remaining money doesn't get misused.

You may want to read the article before you assume that last 9% is fraud.
 
2012-02-17 01:38:49 PM
In fact:

Moreover, the vast bulk of that 9 percent goes for medical care, unemployment insurance benefits (which individuals must have a significant work history to receive), Social Security survivor benefits for the children and spouses of deceased workers, and Social Security benefits for retirees between ages 62 and 64. Seven out of the 9 percentage points go for one of these four purposes.
 
2012-02-17 01:46:05 PM
Like the GOP cares. They have their rhetoric and facts never influence it. The only time they'll acknowledge the study exists is to dismiss it.
 
2012-02-17 01:46:12 PM
...And this is why the regressive, mean-spirited bullshiat coming from the GOP regarding the Poor and Working Poor is going to back-fire on them.

The "Welfare Queen" primarily exists in the heads of various uninformed "conservatives"... We shouldn't even call these people "conservatives" anymore because they're not. They're Reactionary Regressives.
 
2012-02-17 01:48:10 PM
Well, at least Politicians only scam the system for under 10 %
 
2012-02-17 01:54:57 PM
please, being disabled is the biggest racket going. do you really think those people would choose to be crippled if there were no big government payday attached to it?
 
2012-02-17 02:01:30 PM
James!: gerrymander: Translation: entitlement spending should be cut almost 10%, and government employees tasked with finding better ways to ensure the remaining money doesn't get misused.

You may want to read the article before you assume that last 9% is fraud.


I read the article. You'll notice that I never used the word "fraud".
 
2012-02-17 02:08:03 PM
gerrymander: James!: gerrymander: Translation: entitlement spending should be cut almost 10%, and government employees tasked with finding better ways to ensure the remaining money doesn't get misused.

You may want to read the article before you assume that last 9% is fraud.

I read the article. You'll notice that I never used the word "fraud".


So you're talking about cutting ss benefits for the children of dead people?
 
2012-02-17 02:10:16 PM
And a big F*ck You to Demon Reagan for creating the boogeyman that was the 'welfare queen'.
 
2012-02-17 02:15:30 PM
If you're looking for the leeches on our society, don't look at the bottom, look at the top.
 
2012-02-17 02:19:13 PM
Dusk-You-n-Me: If you're looking for the leeches on our society, don't look at the bottom, look at the top.

Heh.. No shiat.

When I was a kid, the word "entitled" was generally used for the wealthy, who never wanted for anything... Then Reagan came along and now living in a bed bug infested project and living on a few hundred dollars a month means someone is "entitled".
 
2012-02-17 02:24:59 PM
Dusk-You-n-Me: If you're looking for the leeches on our society, don't look at the bottom, look at the top.

Absolutely this. This table caught my attention FTFA:
www.cbpp.org

In a perfect world, this makes a lot of sense. In a horrifically tight budgetary world, there's one group of people that almost certainly don't need these benefits, and they aren't at the bottom of the pile. I understand that the people at the top paid into those benefits so they feel entitled to them, but they shouldn't. Social security is NOT your government sponsored 401k, it is a safety net so 80 year old crippled people with arthritis can buy food and meds. The sooner we realize that the sooner we can trim this budget back to something sane.
 
2012-02-17 02:39:52 PM
Really, submitter? I thought we paid legislators much better than that.
 
2012-02-17 03:41:19 PM
Humean_Nature: Dusk-You-n-Me: If you're looking for the leeches on our society, don't look at the bottom, look at the top.

Absolutely this. This table caught my attention FTFA:
[www.cbpp.org image 289x379]

In a perfect world, this makes a lot of sense. In a horrifically tight budgetary world, there's one group of people that almost certainly don't need these benefits, and they aren't at the bottom of the pile. I understand that the people at the top paid into those benefits so they feel entitled to them, but they shouldn't. Social security is NOT your government sponsored 401k, it is a safety net so 80 year old crippled people with arthritis can buy food and meds. The sooner we realize that the sooner we can trim this budget back to something sane.


You keep your goddamn socialism out of social security.
 
2012-02-17 03:44:41 PM
Plasma screens? how does GOP expect people to watch Fox news subby..?
 
2012-02-17 03:58:46 PM
so...the GOP is lying to us!?

i'm shocked - SHOCKED that there is gambling at Ricks!
 
2012-02-17 04:07:44 PM
James!: Don't forget those fancy ass refrigerators.

James!: Don't forget those fancy ass refrigerators.

As an aside, i'm starting to see more and more of my Republican friends use this meme to justify their support of 'f*ck the poor' policies. And this is from people who, not 15 minutes prior, were attempting to lecture me about how important it was to have God and Jesus involved in their parties political process.

Personally, I find it incomprehensible to worship a god who commands his followers to be kind to the poor and to hate material wealth and then do exactly the opposite of those commandments and claim that wealth and privilege are only the right of those elite few who are 'chosen by god'. its almost equally insane to attack ME for pointing out just how heretical most of the people calling themselves 'christian' are these days.


anyways, I suspect this thread will cause our local GOP shills to deploy their weapons of mass distraction. look for outright lies, changing the subject and ad hominem attacks. they might try attacking the source, but that can be tricky. So i'm guessing this will be a 'distraction' thread.
 
2012-02-17 04:09:38 PM
The only "entitled" people in this country are the capitalist class who think they have a god-given right to own everything and everyone. The rest of us are just trying to get enough of what we're due back away from them that we can get by day to day.
 
2012-02-17 04:11:00 PM
Some conservative critics of federal social programs, including leading presidential candidates, are sounding an alarm that the United States is rapidly becoming an "entitlement society" in which social programs are undermining the work ethic and creating a large class of Americans who prefer to depend on government benefits rather than work.

Smells very gingrichy. Let's get a janitor in here to clean this up. Any 5th grader will do.
 
2012-02-17 04:13:20 PM
gerrymander: Translation: entitlement spending should be cut almost 10%, and government employees tasked with finding better ways to ensure the remaining money doesn't get misused.


Is this a moral position against the fraud or an economic one? I ask because at a certain point it becomes more expensive to prevent fraud than to let it happen. Are you willing to raise the cost to prevent more fraud?
 
2012-02-17 04:14:44 PM
does anyone know how quickly the average retiree uses the money they paid in the SSI and medicare?

I heard it was less than 3 years, but not sure if thats true.
 
2012-02-17 04:18:09 PM
First Fart-oreo took away meh relijus freedomz, and now these librulz nerds and number crunchers r taken away meh racially tinged boogeymen.

I don't know what's happened to meh country.

*pouts*
 
2012-02-17 04:19:03 PM
Contrary to "Entitlement Society" Rhetoric, Over Nine-Tenths of Entitlement Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households

We clearly need a "War on the Elderly, Disabled, and Employed". I expect the Republicans to get right on that.
 
2012-02-17 04:21:43 PM
James!: Don't forget those fancy ass refrigerators.

Fark keeping food fresh!
 
2012-02-17 04:24:22 PM
ultraholland: James!: Don't forget those fancy ass refrigerators.

Fark keeping food fresh!


While the wealthy are TAXED TO DEATH and forced to chill their Perrier in damp paper bags these "poor" are spending their welfare checks on boxes full of TV dinners and ice cold beer. This is N0bama's fartmerica.
 
2012-02-17 04:26:55 PM
GAT_00: Like the GOP cares. They have their rhetoric and facts never influence it. The only time they'll acknowledge the study exists is to dismiss it.

Just like 90% of those Planned Parenthood abortions and don't you forget it.
 
2012-02-17 04:27:52 PM
tricycleracer: Contrary to "Entitlement Society" Rhetoric, Over Nine-Tenths of Entitlement Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households

We clearly need a "War on the Elderly, Disabled, and Employed". I expect the Republicans to get right on that.


I thought it was called the Regan administration.
 
2012-02-17 04:30:12 PM
See, the Republicans are trying to save the rich from the horrors of income and capital gains taxes.

www.cbpp.org
 
2012-02-17 04:31:05 PM
If you want to see con artists sucking at the government teet and bankrupting the country, the best place to look is the corporate welfare line.
 
2012-02-17 04:33:29 PM
Maybe 10% goes toward binges on plasma tvs and drugs but 100% of entitlement spending goes toward societal leeches
 
2012-02-17 04:33:49 PM
Since when has the GOP's crusade against social services ever been about saving money? I mean, I know that's what they've always claimed, but has anyone with a triple-digit IQ ever actually believed them?
 
2012-02-17 04:34:15 PM
Saiga410: Maybe 10% goes toward binges on plasma tvs and drugs but 100% of entitlement spending goes toward societal leeches

this makes no sense.
 
2012-02-17 04:34:35 PM
The other 90% is refrigerators
 
2012-02-17 04:35:08 PM
fracto73: gerrymander: Translation: entitlement spending should be cut almost 10%, and government employees tasked with finding better ways to ensure the remaining money doesn't get misused.


Is this a moral position against the fraud or an economic one? I ask because at a certain point it becomes more expensive to prevent fraud than to let it happen. Are you willing to raise the cost to prevent more fraud?


I'm willing to bet that point happens somewhere significantly less than the near $200 Billion that would constitute 10% of all US entitlement spending. And, again, misuse is not limited only to fraud.
 
2012-02-17 04:35:43 PM
Dusk-You-n-Me: If you're looking for the leeches on our society, don't look at the bottom, look at the top.

Yeah! It's not like they are paying their own way, and for about 40 other people, too!

/ haven't seen too many people on welfare hiring
// So are you a dumbass full time?
/// Or is this a new hobby for you?
 
2012-02-17 04:36:27 PM
but i thought NPR alone cost eleventy billion dollars!
 
2012-02-17 04:36:55 PM
Slavery... is still Slavery

thats what they are stuck on

dems love the entitlement society, they vote dem-o-rat
 
2012-02-17 04:39:17 PM
1macgeek: Dusk-You-n-Me: If you're looking for the leeches on our society, don't look at the bottom, look at the top.

Yeah! It's not like they are paying their own way, and for about 40 other people, too!

/ haven't seen too many people on welfare hiring
// So are you a dumbass full time?
/// Or is this a new hobby for you?


You haven't seen very many rich people hiring either. Well, at least not hiring Americans.
 
2012-02-17 04:39:25 PM
Weaver95: Saiga410: Maybe 10% goes toward binges on plasma tvs and drugs but 100% of entitlement spending goes toward societal leeches

this makes no sense.


Yes it does.

100% goes to leeches. 10% of what they do with it is binges on drugs and plasma screens. Do I need to draw a venn diagram?
 
2012-02-17 04:39:47 PM
gerrymander: fracto73: gerrymander: Translation: entitlement spending should be cut almost 10%, and government employees tasked with finding better ways to ensure the remaining money doesn't get misused.


Is this a moral position against the fraud or an economic one? I ask because at a certain point it becomes more expensive to prevent fraud than to let it happen. Are you willing to raise the cost to prevent more fraud?

I'm willing to bet that point happens somewhere significantly less than the near $200 Billion that would constitute 10% of all US entitlement spending. And, again, misuse is not limited only to fraud.



Ok, so when we get to the tipping point, should we increase the cost of the program or assume a certain acceptable level of fraud?
 
2012-02-17 04:39:49 PM
winterwhile: Slavery... is still Slavery

thats what they are stuck on

dems love the entitlement society, they vote dem-o-rat


Freedom is Slavery - isn't that the GOP motto these days? Or was that 'war is peace'?
 
2012-02-17 04:40:22 PM
Saiga410: Maybe 10% goes toward binges on plasma tvs and drugs but 100% of entitlement spending goes toward societal leeches

"Fark the crippled and mentally retarded. They have it too good. Kick'em out in the streets and let'em starve to death!!"

It's becoming increasingly impossible to tell the difference between an American Conservative and a textbook sociopath.
 
2012-02-17 04:41:42 PM
Saiga410: Weaver95: Saiga410: Maybe 10% goes toward binges on plasma tvs and drugs but 100% of entitlement spending goes toward societal leeches

this makes no sense.

Yes it does.

100% goes to leeches. 10% of what they do with it is binges on drugs and plasma screens. Do I need to draw a venn diagram?


so everyone/anyone who takes any form of government assistance is a 'leech'?

careful here....it'll go places you won't like.
 
2012-02-17 04:43:15 PM
Saiga410: Weaver95: Saiga410: Maybe 10% goes toward binges on plasma tvs and drugs but 100% of entitlement spending goes toward societal leeches

this makes no sense.

Yes it does.

100% goes to leeches. 10% of what they do with it is binges on drugs and plasma screens. Do I need to draw a venn diagram?


you sound like a republican hero.
 
2012-02-17 04:44:36 PM
1macgeek: Dusk-You-n-Me: If you're looking for the leeches on our society, don't look at the bottom, look at the top.

Yeah! It's not like they are paying their own way, and for about 40 other people, too!

/ haven't seen too many people on welfare hiring
// So are you a dumbass full time?
/// Or is this a new hobby for you?


No, no. Don't you realize that any dollar that isn't taxed away from the wealthy is a handout to them according to fark these days?
 
2012-02-17 04:45:48 PM
And 50% of their time is devoted to Fark.com
 
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