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2012-02-17 10:56:08 AM
This how Republicans think they will get elected.

THIS IS AWESOME.
 
2012-02-17 10:56:10 AM
Rmoney: I'm throwing politics against the wall, seeing what sticks, just stop me when you hear something you like,
 
2012-02-17 10:57:54 AM
The Giant Redwood. The Larch. The Fir! The mighty Scots Pine! The lofty flowering Cherry! The plucky little Apsen! The limping Roo tree of Nigeria. The towering Wattle of Aldershot! The Maidenhead Weeping Water Plant! The naughty Leicestershire Flashing Oak! The flatulent Elm of West Ruislip! The Quercus Maximus Bamber Gascoigni! The Epigillus! The Barter Hughius Greenus!
 
2012-02-17 10:58:06 AM
Romney is a weirdo, and he's not going to win the nomination without some intra-party shenanigans, but I sincerely hope he does win the nomination.
 
2012-02-17 10:59:41 AM
Mittens is running such a terrible campaign, I'm starting to wonder if Frothy can pull this off and get the nomination.
 
2012-02-17 10:59:50 AM
Tree height is a state's rights issue. Stop Obama's tree growth power grab!
 
2012-02-17 11:00:45 AM
Did he bring them a nice shrubbery, too?
 
2012-02-17 11:03:34 AM
In a more lighthearted moment, the former Massachusetts governor brought in front of the cameras Gloria Blazo, his first-grade teacher in the early 1950s, who recalled the days when Willard Mitt Romney went by the name of "Billy."

Despite the fond memories Romney has conjured of growing up in Michigan, when he last lived there, the Beatles were still on tour and the first moon landing was four years away.
 
2012-02-17 11:05:23 AM

DarnoKonrad: Romney is a weirdo,


The more I hear him talk like this, them more I get the impression that he was home schooled. He just has that same socially awkwardness.

Yes, I know he wasn't really home schooled, but the result seems to be eerily similar.
 
2012-02-17 11:05:52 AM

Saiga410: The Giant Redwood. The Larch. The Fir! The mighty Scots Pine! The lofty flowering Cherry! The plucky little Apsen! The limping Roo tree of Nigeria. The towering Wattle of Aldershot! The Maidenhead Weeping Water Plant! The naughty Leicestershire Flashing Oak! The flatulent Elm of West Ruislip! The Quercus Maximus Bamber Gascoigni! The Epigillus! The Barter Hughius Greenus!


+1
 
2012-02-17 11:05:52 AM
Wow Romney is about one day away from going around all day saying "I love lamp!"

Keep it up GOP. Thanks for showing you have no shortage of first-rate, second-rate men.
 
2012-02-17 11:06:44 AM

rynthetyn: Mittens is running such a terrible campaign, I'm starting to wonder if Frothy can pull this off and get the nomination.


What worries me most are these pissed off "Independent" working class whites (Reagan Democrats as they used to call them) here in the Midwest. Between Romney and Obama, they have a really hard time deciding which Harvard elitist to vote for -- so it will come down to who they'd rather have a beer with, and Obama wins that contest.

Santorum? He looks and talks like they do. He's 'pro family values.' He hates Washington. He think college is overrated. He's persecuted by the media with the whole anal sex thing.

Obama *needs* a substantial portion of this electorate -- and Santorum, more than the rest of the GOP, has a shot of taking that away from him.

They put Reagan into office and George W. Bush. They can put this assclown in too.
 
2012-02-17 11:08:11 AM
I think he's going for that all-important Kirtland's Warbler vote.

//
//too obscure?
 
2012-02-17 11:09:13 AM
Mitt said, "...where the locals "know that 'pop' refers to a drink, not a relative."

Forget birth control, abortion, the economy, foreign policy etc. This is the line that will get him in trouble in Arizona, California and a number of other states. He ought to know that you can't make jokes about regional preferences.

Pie > Cake and that's final.
 
2012-02-17 11:09:27 AM
Trees, schmees- if you really want to win Michigan, then you have to praise the quality of their fudge.
 
2012-02-17 11:10:44 AM

DarnoKonrad: rynthetyn: Mittens is running such a terrible campaign, I'm starting to wonder if Frothy can pull this off and get the nomination.

What worries me most are these pissed off "Independent" working class whites (Reagan Democrats as they used to call them) here in the Midwest. Between Romney and Obama, they have a really hard time deciding which Harvard elitist to vote for -- so it will come down to who they'd rather have a beer with, and Obama wins that contest.

Santorum? He looks and talks like they do. He's 'pro family values.' He hates Washington. He think college is overrated. He's persecuted by the media with the whole anal sex thing.

Obama *needs* a substantial portion of this electorate -- and Santorum, more than the rest of the GOP, has a shot of taking that away from him.

They put Reagan into office and George W. Bush. They can put this assclown in too.


You are forgetting that "Reagan Democrats" may also be female.
 
2012-02-17 11:10:46 AM
I thought we were done with bush and shrubs in politics, or is Mitt just raising the stakes?
 
2012-02-17 11:11:11 AM

Andy Andy: The more I hear him talk like this, them more I get the impression that he was home schooled. He just has that same socially awkwardness.


He sounds like Family guy's two European guys who have been in the US almost long enough to sound American:


Guy #1: Oh man, what a good bunch of partying at that disco-tech. They played one of my audience requests.
Guy #2: Way awesome! I myself drank like five liters of beer. Any more and I would have ended up in hospital man.
Guy #1: Oh you said it friend, but I wanted to stay, because I almost had sex on this girl.
Guy #2: Oh yeah, but it was so expensive. Each drink was like six dollars forty!
 
2012-02-17 11:19:02 AM

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Trees, schmees- if you really want to win Michigan, then you have to praise the quality of their fudge.


I've heard Santorum is disgusted with how they pack it.
 
2012-02-17 11:19:13 AM

Andy Andy: DarnoKonrad: Romney is a weirdo,

The more I hear him talk like this, them more I get the impression that he was home schooled. He just has that same socially awkwardness.

Yes, I know he wasn't really home schooled, but the result seems to be eerily similar.


This is what you get when you see a mormon try to hang out with regular people. They stick out. When going home to Nor Cal every so often, my wife and I can pick the mormans out of a group of people EVERY time. Here in Utah it's the norm.

The matching denim, 3 or more kids all within a year of each other, the clean cut bright eyed OMG-I-can't-believe-how-pretty-everything-is look on their faces...
 
2012-02-17 11:21:09 AM
Mitt, it's not enough to make sure your processors are fully charged and working properly... occasionally you need to upgrade the firmware, too.
 
2012-02-17 11:23:06 AM
At this point, I'm pretty sure the only reason he's running for president is because he believes it's expected of him.
 
2012-02-17 11:23:55 AM
Michigan is my home and I love it dearly. That's why I became Governor of Massachusetts.
 
2012-02-17 11:24:32 AM

DarnoKonrad: rynthetyn: Mittens is running such a terrible campaign, I'm starting to wonder if Frothy can pull this off and get the nomination.

What worries me most are these pissed off "Independent" working class whites (Reagan Democrats as they used to call them) here in the Midwest. Between Romney and Obama, they have a really hard time deciding which Harvard elitist to vote for -- so it will come down to who they'd rather have a beer with, and Obama wins that contest.

Santorum? He looks and talks like they do. He's 'pro family values.' He hates Washington. He think college is overrated. He's persecuted by the media with the whole anal sex thing.

Obama *needs* a substantial portion of this electorate -- and Santorum, more than the rest of the GOP, has a shot of taking that away from him.

They put Reagan into office and George W. Bush. They can put this assclown in too.


Maybe, but I don't think that Mitt or Rick stands a particularly great chance in the general. Mitt probably still stands a better chance of defeating Obama than Rick does. Sure the Midwest can be backward at times, but remember that these are still decent people. Hate (such as Santorum has for gays) isn't going to sell with them. It might have in the past, but folks where I live (a VERY conservative area of Michigan) are coming around big time. They aren't ready for gay marriage yet, but they definitely don't wish to see gay people dehumanized.

Basically, both are general election poison: Mitt is a flip-flopping (to the point of making everyone wonder if he thinks we are too stupid to notice) Mormon, which will kill him with the GOP base, while Santorum is as far to the whacko right-wing as you can be (especially on social issues), which will help with the base but kill him with independents, who will flock to Obama jut to keep him out of office. Either way, it's Obama's election to lose at this point, and he's winning without having done any real campaigning.
 
2012-02-17 11:25:31 AM
FBI Special Agent Dale Cooper: Sheriff, what kind of fantastic trees have you got growing around here? Big, majestic.
Sheriff Harry S. Truman: Douglas firs.
FBI Special Agent Dale Cooper: [Marveling] Douglas firs...

i.imgur.com
 
2012-02-17 11:27:03 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: DarnoKonrad: rynthetyn: Mittens is running such a terrible campaign, I'm starting to wonder if Frothy can pull this off and get the nomination.

What worries me most are these pissed off "Independent" working class whites (Reagan Democrats as they used to call them) here in the Midwest. Between Romney and Obama, they have a really hard time deciding which Harvard elitist to vote for -- so it will come down to who they'd rather have a beer with, and Obama wins that contest.

Santorum? He looks and talks like they do. He's 'pro family values.' He hates Washington. He think college is overrated. He's persecuted by the media with the whole anal sex thing.

Obama *needs* a substantial portion of this electorate -- and Santorum, more than the rest of the GOP, has a shot of taking that away from him.

They put Reagan into office and George W. Bush. They can put this assclown in too.

You are forgetting that "Reagan Democrats" may also be female.




I don't think so. Life long Democrats I know say shiat like "Why don't drug test welfare recipients!" and "Children wouldn't misbehave if they prayed in school." I'd like to whip them with a padlock on a chain, but it wouldn't do any good. It's just how they are. I think the thing to remember is liberals are a minority within their own party.
 
2012-02-17 11:30:27 AM

Le Bomb Suprize: Mitt said, "...where the locals "know that 'pop' refers to a drink, not a relative."

Forget birth control, abortion, the economy, foreign policy etc. This is the line that will get him in trouble in Arizona, California and a number of other states. He ought to know that you can't make jokes about regional preferences.

Pie > Cake and that's final.


Especially when carbonated soft drinks are called "soda" and anyone who disagrees is an inbred hillbilly. farkin' pop, who calls it pop? It's soda. And don't get me started on people who call every soda "coke."
 
2012-02-17 11:32:06 AM

HMS_Blinkin: Mitt probably still stands a better chance of defeating Obama than Rick does.


That's the conventional wisdom, but I think Nate Silver made some pretty salient points as to why that may not be true. And it seems to be a reflection of my neighbors -- who are never going to vote someone like Romney.
 
2012-02-17 11:32:31 AM
Okay, so I support Obama. I want him to be the next President of the United States, but without credible opposition, then what's the point?
 
2012-02-17 11:36:16 AM

Nurglitch: Okay, so I support Obama. I want him to be the next President of the United States, but without credible opposition, then what's the point?


OMG, you're right. Well, we better just dissolve the office of POTUS and let Congress and the Court run a 2 branch system.

/stop being melodramatic
 
2012-02-17 11:36:19 AM
The following are ideal outcomes:

1) Romney loses Michigan and other states, barely squeaks a nomination and is so dragged through the mud and cash depleted that he loses to Obama
2) Romney loses period and either Santorum or Newt become the nominee and lose spectacularly to Obama
3) Romney loses, Santorum and Newt can't seal the deal and there is a brokered convention with some looney combo put forth (don't think they won't do that, they aren't going to put up Snowe and Collins). The party would probably die at that point, depending on who they put forth. And Obama wins because he runs against a broken party.

Scenario 3 is the most dangerous for Obama because IF they put up the right people, he could lose. That's a huge "if". And it would take one hell of a candidate.
 
2012-02-17 11:37:33 AM
Anything to distract Michigan from what he said about the auto bailouts...
 
2012-02-17 11:40:14 AM

Bloody William: Le Bomb Suprize: Mitt said, "...where the locals "know that 'pop' refers to a drink, not a relative."



Especially when carbonated soft drinks are called "soda" and anyone who disagrees is an inbred hillbilly. farkin' pop, who calls it pop? It's soda. And don't get me started on people who call every soda "coke."



You know how I know that you've never set foot in Michigan, or for that matter anywhere in the midwest?
 
2012-02-17 11:41:37 AM

DarnoKonrad: rynthetyn: Mittens is running such a terrible campaign, I'm starting to wonder if Frothy can pull this off and get the nomination.

What worries me most are these pissed off "Independent" working class whites (Reagan Democrats as they used to call them) here in the Midwest. Between Romney and Obama, they have a really hard time deciding which Harvard elitist to vote for -- so it will come down to who they'd rather have a beer with, and Obama wins that contest.

Santorum? He looks and talks like they do. He's 'pro family values.' He hates Washington. He think college is overrated. He's persecuted by the media with the whole anal sex thing.

Obama *needs* a substantial portion of this electorate -- and Santorum, more than the rest of the GOP, has a shot of taking that away from him.

They put Reagan into office and George W. Bush. They can put this assclown in too.


Reagan played off of fear (remember the "bear in the woods" ad?) and W was a fluke, helped by GOP derp about Clinton/Lewinsky & Gore not being removed enough. W's re-election was because Kerry was even more of a piece of cardboard than Gore & we were in the middle of 2 wars.

But the "pro family values" electorate is getting smaller as this birth control debate thins their ranks. You can still be pro-family values & use birth control (like 98% of Catholic women). When your party starts talking about taking that away, excluding women from Congressional hearings, and blaming women for getting pregnant, you start to think twice about voting for them again.
 
2012-02-17 11:43:03 AM

Kevin72: You know how I know that you've never set foot in Michigan, or for that matter anywhere in the midwest?


Why would I want to? Those lunatics call soda pop!
 
2012-02-17 11:46:27 AM
Came for Agent Cooper. Leaving satisfied.
 
2012-02-17 11:48:21 AM
There is unrest in the forest,
There is trouble with the trees,
For the maples want more sunlight
And the oaks ignore their pleas.

The trouble with the maples,
(And they're quite convinced the're right)
They say the oaks are just too lofty
And they grab up all the light.
But the oaks can't help their feelings
If they like the way they're made.
And they wonder why the maples
Can't be happy in their shade.

There is trouble in the Forest,
And the Creatures all have fled,
As the Maples scream oppression,
And the Oaks just shake their heads.

So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights.
"These oaks are just too greedy;
We will make them give us light."
Now there's no more oak oppression,
For they passed a noble law,
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw.
 
2012-02-17 11:50:34 AM

DarnoKonrad: HMS_Blinkin: Mitt probably still stands a better chance of defeating Obama than Rick does.

That's the conventional wisdom, but I think Nate Silver made some pretty salient points as to why that may not be true. And it seems to be a reflection of my neighbors -- who are never going to vote someone like Romney.


That's a fair point, but people who wouldn't vote for Romney DEFINITELY ain't gonna vote for Obama. I see the general playing out two ways: if it's Obama v. Romney, then Obama just points out their similarities (HCR, mainly), and the GOP base stays home, and Obama wins. Or it's Obama v. Santorum, in which case the election becomes a national referendum on crazy. Santorum's policies are too far to the right (and yes, I read your link, but a 3% difference based on a more centered position is still significant), and more importantly, he doesn't have the charisma to pull off crazy. Obama has the charisma and the sane policies, and lately the confidence too (in contrast to Santorum who has always seemed a bit defensive) to win a general.

In any case, the most important thing I saw in Nate Silver's article was that Santorum hasn't faced the scrutiny of a front-runner yet. He may well just be the next Bachmann, Perry, Gingrich, Cain, etc. who is a temporary "anyone but Romney" candidate but who withers under the spotlight. We'll see how this all plays out, but either way I think things look good President.
 
2012-02-17 11:52:28 AM
acefox1:

"The Trees" and "Closer to the Heart" are the two songs that make me feel like a pussy for listening to Rush.
 
2012-02-17 11:55:22 AM

HMS_Blinkin: Mitt probably still stands a better chance of defeating Obama than Rick does.


Here's the thing: since the nasty attack ads in Iowa and Florida, Romney's favorability numbers have been tanking, and his unfavorability numbers are now higher than they've ever been, both nationwide AND amongst moderates. Yes, he's still the got the strongest head-to-head numbers against Obama, but even that has started slipping away as well.

What I'm saying is that the whole "Romney has the best chance against Obama" simply might not be true anymore, certainly as compared to a few months ago.
 
2012-02-17 11:57:43 AM

Bloody William: Kevin72: You know how I know that you've never set foot in Michigan, or for that matter anywhere in the midwest?

Why would I want to? Those lunatics call soda pop!


What's in a name. Would a rose by any other name smell as sweet. Gee Officer Krupke, Krup You.
 
2012-02-17 12:00:07 PM
When this is all they can come up with for the outrage dujour, I guess you're doing something right.
 
2012-02-17 12:03:30 PM

Cat Food Sandwiches: When this is all they can come up with for the outrage dujour, I guess you're doing something right.


What outrage? This is strictly a case of, "Wow, he's really that pathetic? Already? The election's not for another 9 months."
 
2012-02-17 12:03:57 PM
I laughed out loud this morning when I saw a clip of it on "Morning Joe" when it was still too early to be laughing. The first words that I spoke today were in response to seeing the clip:

"What the fark did he just say?" Bwhahaha
 
2012-02-17 12:04:37 PM

Bloody William: Cat Food Sandwiches: When this is all they can come up with for the outrage dujour, I guess you're doing something right.

What outrage? This is strictly a case of, "Wow, he's really that pathetic? Already? The election's not for another 9 months."


Don't let him draw you in.
 
2012-02-17 12:08:02 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: I laughed out loud this morning when I saw a clip of it on "Morning Joe" when it was still too early to be laughing. The first words that I spoke today were in response to seeing the clip:

"What the fark did he just say?" Bwhahaha


I also saw that, and the boys seemed to get quite a kick out of that phrase. In fact, I think Willie gizzed a litte.
 
2012-02-17 12:09:25 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: I laughed out loud this morning when I saw a clip of it on "Morning Joe" when it was still too early to be laughing. The first words that I spoke today were in response to seeing the clip:

"What the fark did he just say?" Bwhahaha


here's the clip on youtube...Link (new window)

He is really very robotic, you would figure after all these election cycles the guy would eventually come off better but no dice...
 
2012-02-17 12:10:31 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: The following are ideal outcomes:

1) Romney loses Michigan and other states, barely squeaks a nomination and is so dragged through the mud and cash depleted that he loses to Obama
2) Romney loses period and either Santorum or Newt become the nominee and lose spectacularly to Obama
3) Romney loses, Santorum and Newt can't seal the deal and there is a brokered convention with some looney combo put forth (don't think they won't do that, they aren't going to put up Snowe and Collins). The party would probably die at that point, depending on who they put forth. And Obama wins because he runs against a broken party.

Scenario 3 is the most dangerous for Obama because IF they put up the right people, he could lose. That's a huge "if". And it would take one hell of a candidate.


538 gives Santorum a 76% chance of winning Michigan with 40.5% of vote vs. 32.7 for Romney.
 
2012-02-17 12:11:50 PM

DarnoKonrad: Obama *needs* a substantial portion of this electorate -- and Santorum, more than the rest of the GOP, has a shot of taking that away from him.


Yeah, Santorum is totally going to steal voters away from Obama. People who were going to vote for the guy who signed the DADT repeal are so going to vote for Santorum all of a sudden.
 
2012-02-17 12:13:39 PM

Bloody William: Le Bomb Suprize: Mitt said, "...where the locals "know that 'pop' refers to a drink, not a relative."

Forget birth control, abortion, the economy, foreign policy etc. This is the line that will get him in trouble in Arizona, California and a number of other states. He ought to know that you can't make jokes about regional preferences.

Pie > Cake and that's final.

Especially when carbonated soft drinks are called "soda" and anyone who disagrees is an inbred hillbilly. farkin' pop, who calls it pop? It's soda. And don't get me started on people who call every soda "coke."


Everything IS coke, vile Knave.

/Slaps face with steel gauntlet
 
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