The 5th Amendment wasn't good enough for them?

Subby, do you read the articles?

RoyBatty: Subby, do you read the articles?

Also, this is a repeat from eleventy days ago.

The people who write the laws write them to make themselves above the law?

American politics are corrupt?

I'm shocked.

The Florida GOP is out of control. And I am a conservative saying that.

First they cut private worker's wages...now they try to give themselves immunity in prosecution

"We're seeing more and more people filing litigation,'' seeking legislators to testify in depositions, said Rep. Larry Metz, R-Yalaha.


Gee, I wonder why this is. Hmmmmm......

UCFRoadWarrior: The Florida GOP is out of control. And I am a conservative saying that.

First they cut private worker's wages...now they try to give themselves immunity in prosecution

Don't forget that the FL Repubs are also trying to cut state worker healthcare benefits, but not their own. Oh, and pay raises...they can give "cost of living" pay raises to themselves, but state workers haven't had a bump in years.

And let's not forget that they are now trying to pass a bill requiring random drug tests for all state workers.

/aren't the lawmakers state workers, too?

Wolfen067:
/aren't the lawmakers state workers, too?

I'm pretty sure "workers" generally refers to people who do actual work.

If you believe you need legal immunity from accountability for your actions while on the job, perhaps you need to find a different job.

"GOP IS BAD!" = instant green.

xtragrind: "GOP IS BAD!" = instant green.

It is now impossible to describe them any other way than 'bad', at a minimum.

Con Fabulous: Wolfen067:
/aren't the lawmakers state workers, too?

I'm pretty sure "workers" generally refers to people who do actual work.

My dad used to joke he wasn't a state worker, he was a state employee.

/wasn't in the legislature

Alphax: The 5th Amendment wasn't good enough for them?

The 5th Amendment privilege is only available if your testimony could be used to convict you of a crime. You can't refuse to testify on matters that don't implicate you in criminal charges.

Alphax: xtragrind: "GOP IS BAD!" = instant green.

It is now impossible to describe them any other way than 'bad', at a minimum.

In xtragrind's defense, it's true that Fark doesn't spend a great deal of time discussing all the constructive and beneficial accomplishments the GOP can point to as having improved the US.

indylaw: Alphax: The 5th Amendment wasn't good enough for them?

The 5th Amendment privilege is only available if your testimony could be used to convict you of a crime. You can't refuse to testify on matters that don't implicate you in criminal charges.

At least not with the 5th Amendment privilege. There are other privileges, like attorney-client, law-enforcement privilege (for open investigations), executive privilege, and in many states, and maybe in Florida, legislative privilege

indylaw: indylaw: Alphax: The 5th Amendment wasn't good enough for them?

The 5th Amendment privilege is only available if your testimony could be used to convict you of a crime. You can't refuse to testify on matters that don't implicate you in criminal charges.

At least not with the 5th Amendment privilege. There are other privileges, like attorney-client, law-enforcement privilege (for open investigations), executive privilege, and in many states, and maybe in Florida, legislative privilege

I would say separation of powers.

UCFRoadWarrior: First they cut private worker's wages...now they try to give themselves immunity in prosecution

Sorry...I must have missed this one. How did they cut private worker's wages?

When officials pass laws to circumvent themselves from general law, that ought to be the red flag that brings the sheriffs out with handcuffs to remove them from office.

Same thing should have happened with citizens vs. united, the sheriff should have came for those members of the Supreme Court. Their decision was so blatantly (Constitutionally) wrong it is obvious they need to be arrested for not supporting the constitution.

Some things are just so obvious.

Oh, sorry. I was off in that vision of a "More perfect Union".

abb3w: indylaw: At least not with the 5th Amendment privilege. There are other privileges, like attorney-client, law-enforcement privilege (for open investigations), executive privilege, and in many states, and maybe in Florida, legislative privilege

But would the state having a statutory legislative privilege carry the slightest iota of weight if it's a equal protection lawsuit in federal court?

As I understand it, you cannot compel legislators to testify in court, at least regarding their legislative duties. Evidence in equal protection lawsuits over statutes usually comes in the form of certified transcripts of legislative proceedings. You can't, for instance, subpoena a Senator and grill him on why he voted for DOMA.

xtragrind: "GOP IS BAD!" = instant green.

"My mom's an art teacher who is fleecing taxpayers, and her school's gym teacher is making more than any teacher listed in the public record" = instant FAIL.

My mom is an art teacher in the Akron Public school district and makes 72K a year to work 3 days a week. She's only been there 15 years. There is a gym teacher that has been there for 35 years that makes 110k plus a year. Remember that they have the entire summer off and have amazing benefits... (new window)

Notabunny: Alphax: xtragrind: "GOP IS BAD!" = instant green.

It is now impossible to describe them any other way than 'bad', at a minimum.

In xtragrind's defense, it's true that Fark doesn't spend a great deal of time discussing all the constructive and beneficial accomplishments the GOP can point to as having improved the US.

We could do that in 45 minutes if we're talking about the Republican Party of the last 20 years. 15 if we limit it to the last decade, and about a minute if we're talking about the Republican Party since 2009 and we talk really slowly.