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(Some Optimistic Guy)   How Republicans can win even if the economy keeps improving. Master plan likely involves two things no one understands: a microwave and non-dairy creamer   (blog.american.com ) divider line
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2012-02-16 10:43:49 AM  
4 votes:
They left out the most obvious one; Manipulate the price of gasoline via the oil futures market. If they could find some way to get the price of gas well above $4/gal maybe even close to $5/gal by late Summer they can kill off the recovery.

What's that? You say experts are predicting the price of gas will be approaching $5/gal by late Summer? Shocking!
2012-02-16 12:51:04 PM  
3 votes:

Slives: I almost want the Republicans to gain enough control to do things the way they want to, watch the economy all but fall apart and then enjoy the bloodbath that takes place after that.


We did that from 2000-2006. We are still recovering. Let's not do it again, if you please.

/thanks
2012-02-16 12:45:42 PM  
2 votes:
The Congressional Republicans are giving up. You can tell by the payroll tax cut that they know they can't do anything right now except see what happens in December. The way everything is headed, Obama will have another term and the Democrats may see some drastic gains in either House simply because the Teabaggers went from zero to annoying within weeks of gaining some power.

The presidential primary is turning into another circular firing squad, and the chosen candidate is being soundly rejected by the Base. These are the dark times for the Republican Party, and it's easy to see what most of them are really doing now: quietly sounding out some positions that require no work, and figuring out how they can either capitalize on this confusion (hence Gingrich and Santorum still being in this race) or how they can go independent. At this point, the Republican label is toxic and only being coveted by the dying rural bigots who will provide an excellent 'them' to fight against for the next four years.
2012-02-16 12:37:48 PM  
2 votes:
They've already given up on the economy and have pivoted to social issues. Obama in a landslide.
2012-02-16 11:04:04 AM  
2 votes:
Utter tripe.

Lot of time until November, but I can't help but wonder if the real question is will the Democrats take the House back?
2012-02-16 03:37:58 PM  
1 vote:
I really, really want to see Obama's PR campaign this year.

"Dear voters, let's play Never Have I Ever. Never Have I, your President, Ever held the American economy hostage, advocated market strategies that would have destroyed the economy of the entire planet, attempted to force you through legislation to fall in line with radical Christian beliefs, based my entire party strategy on shredding the Bill of Rights, or thrown screaming temper tantrums in lieu of actual discussion. The Republican Party has. Please vote for me so that four years from now, you still have a country instead of a radioactive wasteland."
2012-02-16 03:20:42 PM  
1 vote:

fourskys: Came here for Pinky and the Brain quotes, leaving dissatisfied.

/Props to evilmrsock for trying to get it going
//Let the balloon people free!!


I am honoured by your visit. Let me show you our assembly line. First, sheets of sheer synthetic sheepskin are slit into several Kicky-Sack shoe shapes in shapely shoe sizes by six sitting sheet slitters. Unfortunately the sixth sitting sheet slitter's sick. His son Sammy's subbing 'til the sick sixth sitting sheet slitter's back, sitting pretty. The Shoe Shaper then shapes the slit synthetic sheepskin sheets, and shoots out shoes through the chute. Now, this is Mr. Plunkett, the new khaki sock plucker. (I had to fire our previous sock plucker. He had a bit of an attitude.)

So, you sacked the cocky khaki Kicky-Sack sock plucker?

The second cocky khaki Kicky-Sack sock plucker I sacked since the sixth sitting sheet slitter got sick. --Whoops! Don't worry; just an electrical problem. One of the Kicky-Sack sack pickers will have to flick the plug....

Not the khaki sock plucker?

Oh MY no. The Kicky-Sack sack pickers flick the plug. The khaki sock plucker can't reach the socket over the latex child perambulator fenders we use to line the treadmill.

It might make more sense to have the sixth sitting sheet slitter's son flick the plug, if the sack pickers and the sock pluckers are behind the rubber baby buggy bumpers.

[Sammy flicks the plug. Everything whirs back up.]

I never thought of that!

i41.tinypic.com
Of course, you didn't.
2012-02-16 02:21:04 PM  
1 vote:
and unemployment claims go down again. We have the lowest level of weekly unemployment claims since 2008. GM is alive, bin Laden is dead, and America is back!
2012-02-16 02:02:40 PM  
1 vote:

Guntram Shatterhand: The Congressional Republicans are giving up. You can tell by the payroll tax cut that they know they can't do anything right now except see what happens in December. The way everything is headed, Obama will have another term and the Democrats may see some drastic gains in either House simply because the Teabaggers went from zero to annoying within weeks of gaining some power.

The presidential primary is turning into another circular firing squad, and the chosen candidate is being soundly rejected by the Base. These are the dark times for the Republican Party, and it's easy to see what most of them are really doing now: quietly sounding out some positions that require no work, and figuring out how they can either capitalize on this confusion (hence Gingrich and Santorum still being in this race) or how they can go independent. At this point, the Republican label is toxic and only being coveted by the dying rural bigots who will provide an excellent 'them' to fight against for the next four years.


Oh and let's pause to acknowledge that Obama made Boehner and especially the TEA Party wing of the House his utter biatch this week on the payroll tax cut. He got everyhting he wanted and they got NOTHING, not even a token nod to their "demand" to offset it with spending cuts
2012-02-16 01:35:49 PM  
1 vote:
Came for the excellent Pinky and the Brain reference in the headline, subby. +1
2012-02-16 01:34:27 PM  
1 vote:
How Republicans can win even if the economy keeps improving

By James Pethokoukis


If he admits the economy is improving, why would he want to stop it?
2012-02-16 01:23:37 PM  
1 vote:
Crony capitalism? I thought he was a socialist?
2012-02-16 01:21:36 PM  
1 vote:
"Keeps improving"?

pjmedia.com
2012-02-16 01:08:27 PM  
1 vote:
GOP: "Things are improving. We can put a stop to that.!"
2012-02-16 01:01:12 PM  
1 vote:

theknuckler_33: a slowly falling unemployment rate of 8.0 percent by year's end

Ignoring for a moment the quality, or lack thereof, of the blog, am I the only one who finds this a bit pessimistic? I mean, I realize that the 'official' UE rate will struggle to come down as more people rejoin the search for jobs, but cripes, it's only February. I was thinking it could dip below 8 before the election.


I think it definitely could be. New claims fell again this week to the lowest level since before Obama.
2012-02-16 01:00:24 PM  
1 vote:
FTFA:
State capitalists fear Schumpeterian creative destruction because they cannot control it or squeeze campaign contributions from it.

Economic freedom, on the other hand, creates prosperity by unleashing the imagination of the individual and rewarding his or her effort. As analyst Ian Bremmer puts it, "Creative destruction invests liberal capitalism with a self-regenerating dynamism. ... Human beings value opportunities to create prosperity for themselves and their families, and free markets have proven time and again that they can empower virtually anyone."


FTFW:
Creative destruction is a term originally derived from Marxist economic theory which refers to the linked processes of the accumulation and annihilation of wealth under capitalism.
...
In Capitalism, Socialism and Democracy, [Joseph Schumpeter] developed the concept out of a careful reading of Marx's thought...arguing that the creative-destructive forces unleashed by capitalism would eventually lead to its demise as a system.


I love that capitalists have taken a principle of their system that people on the outside see as one of its greatest weaknesses and turned it into "self-regenerating dynamism". Karl Rove would be proud, or possibly stole their tactic.
2012-02-16 12:55:47 PM  
1 vote:
In the summer of 1933, a nice old gentleman wearing a silk hat fell off the end of a pier. He was unable to swim. A friend ran down the pier, dived overboard and pulled him out; but the silk hat floated off with the tide. After the old gentleman had been revived, he was effusive in his thanks. He praised his friend for saving his life. Today, three years later, the old gentleman is berating his friend because the silk hat was lost.

- Franklin Delano Roosevelt
2012-02-16 12:49:22 PM  
1 vote:
Go ahead GOP, make your case. Tell the American people how Obama is strengthening the economy and lowering unemployment JUST so he can get reelected, because he's a big mean selfish partisan poopie head.

I'm sure that will fly.
2012-02-16 12:47:41 PM  
1 vote:

error 303: GoodyearPimp: A whole lot of "Obama isn't doing enough!" *obama does something after much fussing from the R's* "OBAMA'S DOING TOO MUCH!"

I had that conversation with a really smart coworker. I knew he leaned Republican but didn't know just how far it went, but he started complaining that Obama sits around doing nothing but taking vacations while America's problems get worse. I pointed out that most Republicans seem upset at how much money he's been spending on huge programs like the Reocvery Act, Health Insurance Reform, implementation of the auto bailout and Cash for Clunkers, extension of unemployment benefits, etc. and he seemed genuinely confused. He accepted that those were all massive programs and bad ideas. I think he was trying to say that he thinks Obama isn't doing enough of he right things (hah, Right, nice pun me) for the country or something?

I mean, essentially, the economy is going in the right direction, health insurance coverage has expanded, the american auto industry is on the rise, the wars overseas are drawing down... it seems to me like that the Obama administration has undertaken some pretty dramatic policy reform in the last three years and met with results that are good for America.

the Republican argument these days seems to be a tacit "He's good, but he's not good enough." So, sure, run on that I guess...


The sad thing about that argument is that it still brings to light how awful and out of touch the Republican candidates are. Would you have a possible Clinton second term or another Dubya in office? Because that's not a choice at all, not in the slightest.
2012-02-16 12:46:08 PM  
1 vote:
1. Better but not nearly good enough. He's saying that the R's could try to make Americans think about more robust recoveries in the past. The problem is, if you get them thinking about the past, they'll remember that most of this started under Bush.

2. The Big Spend was a Big Bust. Some of the R candidates were in favor of the stimuli.

3. The recovery isn't "built to last," not with all that debt. Only Ron Paul has made serious proposals to reduce spending and therefore reduce debt long-term.

4. Obama is President (Didn't) Fix It. Takes two to tango. Everyone knows that Obama and Congress haven't agreed on much. If you emphasize that things haven't gotten done, many people (though certainly not all) will blame Congress for that. So you will gain some votes and lose some.

5. Obama wants to "win the future"-with crony capitalism. And Mitt/Newt/Rick don't? Seriously?!?
2012-02-16 12:44:55 PM  
1 vote:
They forgot the obvious one: STOP TALKING. David Axelrod probably already has a script set up that whenever a Republican offical says anything, the sound bite is immediately copied into an ever-growing YouTube Campaign video. Hell, he doesn't even have to worry about editing.

As for the article itself?

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2012-02-16 12:38:29 PM  
1 vote:
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Why with the millions we win from the lawsuit, we can BUY the election, Pinky!
2012-02-16 12:36:52 PM  
1 vote:
But but but if RON PAUL doesn't win we're all farked! We gotta get RON PAUL elected! We just gotta! Only RON PAUL can save everything!!
2012-02-16 11:58:41 AM  
1 vote:

Elandriel: He hasn't even begun to campaign yet. I mean, I haven't seen a single "re-elect Obama" ad or anything. He has done effectively nothing, and his poll numbers keep rising, just on what he is doing for his actual job WITHOUT boasting his laurels or whatever the phrase is.


i've been saying this for months. never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
2012-02-16 11:49:33 AM  
1 vote:
Heh... Good luck with that.
2012-02-16 11:15:52 AM  
1 vote:

TwoHead: They left out the most obvious one; Manipulate the price of gasoline via the oil futures market. If they could find some way to get the price of gas well above $4/gal maybe even close to $5/gal by late Summer they can kill off the recovery.


Hence why the GOP is threatening to hold the strategic oil reserve hostage to attempt to force premature approval of the Keystone XL pipeline.
2012-02-16 11:14:49 AM  
1 vote:
After scanning every 7th word in the article, I pretty much read his plan as 'claim we can make the economy recover faster'.

I almost want the Republicans to gain enough control to do things the way they want to, watch the economy all but fall apart and then enjoy the bloodbath that takes place after that.
Almost. But I am not independently wealthy, and I need to keep the job I have, even in this weak economy.
2012-02-16 10:12:50 AM  
1 vote:
Well that was a pile of lies.
 
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