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2012-02-16 01:35:44 PM
Watching Misfits on Hulu right now. Don't tell me if it starts to suck, you wankoaoas.
 
2012-02-16 01:38:20 PM
scottydoesntknow: I don't like statistics like this. How many HBO subscribers are still on the "Puchase 2 years of Comcast, get 6 months of movie channels!" type packages? Cable tv is like a gateway drug. "Ohhh I can get the sports package and the movie package for only $29.99 extra a month?! Sweet!"

When I heard about HBO Go I got kind of excited and looked into it. Imagine my disappointment that I had to actually subscribe to an expensive movie package with my cable provider in order to access it. I imagine HBO would greatly benefit from a boom of new customers who would subscribe for a monthly rate just to access their content online in a similar Netflix capacity without strong arming them into purchasing all the channels and then some.
 
2012-02-16 01:39:01 PM
stebain: Watching Misfits on Hulu right now. Don't tell me if it starts to suck, you wankoaoas.

I just started season 3 the other day. Holy crap that show was last weekend's crack for me.
 
2012-02-16 01:41:32 PM
KatjaMouse:
When I heard about HBO Go I got kind of excited and looked into it. Imagine my disappointment that I had to actually subscribe to an expensive movie package with my cable provider in order to access it. I imagine HBO would greatly benefit from a boom of new customers who would subscribe for a monthly rate just to access their content online in a similar Netflix capacity without strong arming them into purchasing all the channels and then some.


For really real.
 
2012-02-16 01:47:04 PM
Wicked Chinchilla: AiryAnne: Dr.Knockboots: alwaysjaded: or The Wire

best show to have ever been on tv.

I just finished marathoning entire series for second time. Best ever, I don't know. Top 10 of all time, probably.

Perfect series finale.

I keep hearing this. I think I might have to start this series.


The first time I ever watched the 1st season, I really didn't care for it. Not sure why, it just didnt "click" with me. A few months later, I tried again and ended up loving it.

By the end of the series you'll be constantly saying, "shiat."
 
2012-02-16 01:53:15 PM
AiryAnne: Wicked Chinchilla: AiryAnne: Dr.Knockboots: alwaysjaded: or The Wire

best show to have ever been on tv.

I just finished marathoning entire series for second time. Best ever, I don't know. Top 10 of all time, probably.

Perfect series finale.

I keep hearing this. I think I might have to start this series.

The first time I ever watched the 1st season, I really didn't care for it. Not sure why, it just didnt "click" with me. A few months later, I tried again and ended up loving it.

By the end of the series you'll be constantly saying, "shiat."


I have yet to see it. It keeps bobbing about in the top 10 on my queue but damned if it never makes it into my mail box.
 
2012-02-16 01:55:01 PM
Netflix should start showing pro wrestling. Before you laugh, remember that WWE pay per views regularly get between 200-300k buys per month, and those cost $50/viewing. Netflix should get involved with a smaller promotion like Chikara and Ring of Honor, and start streaming their shows.
 
2012-02-16 01:56:48 PM
verbaltoxin: Netflix should start showing pro wrestling. Before you laugh, remember that WWE pay per views regularly get between 200-300k buys per month, and those cost $50/viewing. Netflix should get involved with a smaller promotion like Chikara and Ring of Honor, and start streaming their shows.

As long as it doesn't cost me anything extra, they can show what they like.
 
2012-02-16 02:11:13 PM
KatjaMouse: AiryAnne: Wicked Chinchilla: AiryAnne: Dr.Knockboots: alwaysjaded: or The Wire

best show to have ever been on tv.

I just finished marathoning entire series for second time. Best ever, I don't know. Top 10 of all time, probably.

Perfect series finale.

I keep hearing this. I think I might have to start this series.

The first time I ever watched the 1st season, I really didn't care for it. Not sure why, it just didnt "click" with me. A few months later, I tried again and ended up loving it.

By the end of the series you'll be constantly saying, "shiat."

I have yet to see it. It keeps bobbing about in the top 10 on my queue but damned if it never makes it into my mail box.


Damned FARK filters, you'll be saying:

i97.photobucket.com
 
2012-02-16 02:12:24 PM
arschlov: Chief Executive Officer Reed Hastings in December described HBO GO, the online offshoot of the cable network, as "the competitor we fear most."


Interesting since in order to use HBO GO, I need to subscribe to a cable TV package($40-120/mo), and then subscribe to HBO($10-20/mo). To use Netflix all I need is an internet connection($0-80/mo which I would have anyway sans netflix), and a Netflix subscription ($7.99/mo)

Since HBO is owned by time warner I doubt they will ever let HBO Go be a standalone subscription service, but they should since more and more people are cutting the cord.


It's only a matter of time until HBO sells HBO GO to non-subscribers -- there's no point to developing a streaming service that's only available to subscribers. HBO has clearly done it as a backup to their decline home video sales.

As for the affect on Time Warner Cable service, I doubt people dropping their HBO subscription is going to cost them much -- people will still be paying the heavy base fee just for cable service.
 
2012-02-16 02:13:50 PM
HBO has some of the best programing out there. I own every season of Entourage.
 
2012-02-16 02:16:40 PM
HellRaisingHoosier: HBO has some of the best programing out there. I own every season of Entourage.

They gave me Rome. That is the only HBO series I own on DVD.
 
2012-02-16 02:16:48 PM
Netflix should finish up Deadwood.
 
2012-02-16 02:20:13 PM
HellRaisingHoosier: HBO has some of the best programing out there. I own every season of Entourage.

I tried to watch it. Couldn't get myself to enjoy it.
 
2012-02-16 02:25:04 PM
I have not seen Lilyhammer yet, in my queue and looks decent. Anyone watch it yet?
 
2012-02-16 02:30:17 PM
Hell yes. I'm not a Netflix customer, but once my wife heard they were bringing Arrested Development back she made me promise to sign up once they start airing. Hopefully we'll like other things they have on there, but $8 a month for new Arrested Development plus on demand access to the whole rest of their catalog too isn't bad.

Now that True Blood has started it's fan-service death spiral, and is no longer watchable, the only reason for an HBO subscription for me is Game of Thrones. Once it comes back I'll be looking for a deal on HBO service like I got for the last season of True Blood (couple months free, so in effect I only pay for HBO service for the last month the show is on). But one single show is not enough to spend $25 a month for HBO, I 'aint made of money.
 
2012-02-16 02:31:41 PM
HellRaisingHoosier: HBO has some of the best programing out there. I own every season of Entourage.


I loved you in "A Cook's Tour".
 
2012-02-16 02:39:31 PM
DeaH: Netflix should finish up Deadwood.

Not going to happen, the best actors went on to other things, the set was torn down, and like trying to get Firefly back to together it is just too risky with too little reward.

Although starting over with a show that is a Firefly/Deadwood mash up could be cool. Space Western with lots of swearing, whores, and bad guys that could alternate between western style frontier planets and cyberpunk like developed worlds would be sweet for the effects alone.
 
2012-02-16 02:47:25 PM
Wicked Chinchilla: AiryAnne: Dr.Knockboots: alwaysjaded: or The Wire

best show to have ever been on tv.

I just finished marathoning entire series for second time. Best ever, I don't know. Top 10 of all time, probably.

Perfect series finale.

I keep hearing this. I think I might have to start this series.


I also just marathoned through the whole series as I did not see it back when it was on HBO. I struggled through the first 3 episodes then I found myself coming back for episodes just like the crack addicts in the towers. This is a very intelligent show that takes a minimum of 6 episodes before you know the huge cast of characters. Then just as you start to love them, they get brutally murdered. So addicting, top 10 best ever shows. Oh Dookie,,,,,,WHY ?????
 
2012-02-16 04:29:40 PM
Slaves2Darkness: DeaH: Netflix should finish up Deadwood.

Not going to happen, the best actors went on to other things, the set was torn down, and like trying to get Firefly back to together it is just too risky with too little reward.

Although starting over with a show that is a Firefly/Deadwood mash up could be cool. Space Western with lots of swearing, whores, and bad guys that could alternate between western style frontier planets and cyberpunk like developed worlds would be sweet for the effects alone.


Well the concern about the set is not entirely true. The exterior town set is a Hollywood studio known as the Melody Ranch, which still exists. All they would need to do is rebuild the interiors as needed.

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As far as deadwood being like firefly, the only difference is that Deadwood was actually good. I mean come on space cowboys, who actually thought that would make money on network TV (or apparently make money as a feature film)?
 
2012-02-16 05:02:16 PM
Kornchex: Talk to me when they bring back Firefly with the entire cast.

Let it go, man. It's been almost ten years and the cast has aged (Fillion in particular has put on some weight). You could never catch that lightning again.
 
2012-02-16 05:07:53 PM
Me to HBO:

I will continue to pirate your shows until you let me buy HBO GO from you without having to go through some crappy middleman like Comcast.

On the other hand, I'll pay Netflix directly.

So, yeah, fark you HBO.

/Also, this may not be the time to ask this, but will you put Crashbox on DVD so I can buy it? Please and thank you.
 
2012-02-16 05:20:34 PM
mechgreg: As far as deadwood being like firefly, the only difference is that Deadwood was actually good. I mean come on space cowboys, who actually thought that would make money on network TV (or apparently make money as a feature film)?


It certainly could have made money. It was well written, with great characters and dialogue... but Fox totally botched it by playing it completely out of order.

I'm a prime target for a show like that, Sci-fi is my favorite genre. Now that I've had a chance to see it in proper order I absolutely love it... but when it was actually aired I couldn't stand it because it made no sense. It seemed promising but then characters would appear and disappear seemingly at random, shiat was going on that clearly referenced events that (I thought) they hadn't bothered telling us about... it all seemed like really really shiatty plotting but really good dialogue. So I got frustrated at not knowing what was going on and quit after a few episodes.

Then years later I found out it had been aired in the wrong order, went back and watched it in the correct order and was blown away. Suddenly everything made perfect sense and it was really entertaining.

Most of my friends had similar experiences. If Fox hadn't let some mouth breathing r-tard air that show out of order it very well might have done quite well.
 
2012-02-16 05:20:41 PM
weeds went to shiat after season 3.

hbo shows GIMMEGIMMEGIMME on netflix:
the wire
the sopranos
six feet under
deadwood
oz
 
2012-02-16 05:42:59 PM
SPLAMM: Then just as you start to love them, they get brutally murdered. So addicting, top 10 best ever shows. Oh Dookie,,,,,,WHY ?????

I know! After dozens of characters get killed over the 5 seasons, none of that was as heartbreaking as that last shot of Dookie.
 
2012-02-16 06:22:42 PM
Publikwerks: Netflix should do Firefly. There are few series with as rabid fans as Firefly.

Jericho( was on CBS) would be another.

That would be sweet.


No Firefly sucks. There was a reason it was cancelled. It was farking terrible. Joss Whedon is a farking hack who has never had an original coherent thought ever. He is the Kevin Smith of SyFy. The fanboyism for this show is the most uncalled for devotism I have ever seen.
 
2012-02-16 06:51:30 PM
She comes in colors everywhere: I'm not feeling any love for Californication in this thread.

The first season was some of the finest TV ever, but I hated the last 30 seconds. I think that the show could have taken an interesting turn, but instead the next 2 seasons were more of the same, with few big surprises. I haven't seen any of S4 or 5 yet, may get to it someday.
 
2012-02-16 08:24:19 PM
Quite a few laughs from Lillyhammer.
 
2012-02-16 08:26:15 PM
Gonad the Ballbarian: I have not seen Lilyhammer yet, in my queue and looks decent. Anyone watch it yet?

Just watched the 1st episode today--love it! Marathon night!
 
2012-02-16 08:40:00 PM
It's simple economics. $7.99 is too cheap for movie and TV watching according to the likes of HBO and the movie producers. Bottom line, Netflix is still too cheap. Let's see what Coinstar/Redbox does with Verizon. I'm skeptical they'll do anything cheaper or better than Netflix.
 
2012-02-16 08:41:53 PM
thornhill: arschlov: Chief Executive Officer Reed Hastings in December described HBO GO, the online offshoot of the cable network, as "the competitor we fear most."


Interesting since in order to use HBO GO, I need to subscribe to a cable TV package($40-120/mo), and then subscribe to HBO($10-20/mo). To use Netflix all I need is an internet connection($0-80/mo which I would have anyway sans netflix), and a Netflix subscription ($7.99/mo)

Since HBO is owned by time warner I doubt they will ever let HBO Go be a standalone subscription service, but they should since more and more people are cutting the cord.

It's only a matter of time until HBO sells HBO GO to non-subscribers -- there's no point to developing a streaming service that's only available to subscribers. HBO has clearly done it as a backup to their decline home video sales.

As for the affect on Time Warner Cable service, I doubt people dropping their HBO subscription is going to cost them much -- people will still be paying the heavy base fee just for cable service.


Won't happen. HBO makes a lot of money on the boxing PPV market, like, a ton. They have a sweet deal with the cable companies/inDemand to provide this and their compensation there is tied to their premium channel. They won't be available to anyone without cable anytime in the near future. They are completely tied to the cable companies. Also, Time Warner =/= Time Warner cable. Completely spun off, completely different companies, have been for years.
 
2012-02-16 09:18:43 PM
I don't have cable.
I want HBO Go.
...before winter.
 
2012-02-16 09:29:45 PM
Poorlytoldjoke: Won't happen. HBO makes a lot of money on the boxing PPV market, like, a ton. They have a sweet deal with the cable companies/inDemand to provide this and their compensation there is tied to their premium channel. They won't be available to anyone without cable anytime in the near future. They are completely tied to the cable companies. Also, Time Warner =/= Time Warner cable. Completely spun off, completely different companies, have been for years.

HBO GO doesn't stream live programming, and new shows aren't available until about 36 hours after broadcast. They also don't post boxing matches.
 
2012-02-16 11:20:33 PM
The answer to making money is always porn. Netflix should self-produce porn.
 
2012-02-17 12:03:29 AM
Since HBO blazed the trail, Netflix can learn from their mistakes and not repeat them ... namely, don't give David Milch free reign to do whatever he wants, and don't create a show with Robert Wuhl as the "star" much less give it seven seasons.
 
2012-02-17 12:09:52 AM
HBO would never go it alone without the cable channels. The cable channels provide all the infrastruture, all the marketing, all the promotion, get it in people's homes, etc. All HBO has to worry about is providing the content. People always think passing over the middle man is good, but the middle man is quite useful when they're taking on almost all the overhead and risk.
 
2012-02-17 01:49:30 AM
Got the whole series of Six Feet Under for 15 $ per season @ Walmart!! great deal

Had to pay full price 45 $ each season for The Wire but that isnt
too much for the best show ever created

I bought Deadwood for 20 $ each season which was a super deal too

and got Everybody Loves Raymond season for 10$ each at Walmart
I know it wasnt HBO when it was on but HBO bought it and put it on dvd
 
2012-02-17 02:33:27 AM
Dear HBO, Game of Thrones is a good show, unfortunately nothing you can make will ever be worth the $120+ a month it takes to get your network. Please join this decade.
 
2012-02-17 08:46:51 AM
Smelly McUgly: /Also, this may not be the time to ask this, but will you put Crashbox on DVD so I can buy it? Please and thank you.

Yes. My youngest has never seen an episode since we long ago dropped HBO.
 
2012-02-17 03:46:19 PM
starleen: Gonad the Ballbarian: I have not seen Lilyhammer yet, in my queue and looks decent. Anyone watch it yet?

Just watched the 1st episode today--love it! Marathon night!


saaaWEET!
 
2012-02-17 11:39:58 PM
arschlov: Chief Executive Officer Reed Hastings in December described HBO GO, the online offshoot of the cable network, as "the competitor we fear most."


Interesting since in order to use HBO GO, I need to subscribe to a cable TV package($40-120/mo), and then subscribe to HBO($10-20/mo). To use Netflix all I need is an internet connection($0-80/mo which I would have anyway sans netflix), and a Netflix subscription ($7.99/mo)

Since HBO is owned by time warner I doubt they will ever let HBO Go be a standalone subscription service, but they should since more and more people are cutting the cord.


Very much this. I love stuff like Game of Thrones, Deadwood, Rome, etc. but having to pay Dish Network $65/month ofr a bunch of other crap I WILL NOT WATCH is asinine. I'd signup for standalone HBO GO in a heartbeat, but this is absurd. I don't want dish/cable. I won't watch it and I know it. Why try to force me to pay for stuff I don't need? It's just driving me to consider piracy.
 
2012-02-17 11:45:28 PM
R Kelly's Doo Doo Butter: Publikwerks: Netflix should do Firefly. There are few series with as rabid fans as Firefly.

Jericho( was on CBS) would be another.

That would be sweet.

No Firefly sucks. There was a reason it was cancelled. It was farking terrible. Joss Whedon is a farking hack who has never had an original coherent thought ever. He is the Kevin Smith of SyFy. The fanboyism for this show is the most uncalled for devotism I have ever seen.


Wrong
 
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