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2012-02-15 09:11:49 PM
See what happens when you don't do drugs.
 
2012-02-15 09:57:25 PM
"CDs by the Fugees, Linkin Park and Pink Floyd sat in the console next to a faded 3-year-old movie ticket."

So, do you think Brain Damage was playing when they tasered him?
 
2012-02-15 10:06:07 PM
What a dick.
 
2012-02-15 10:10:47 PM

" The family had even called the Pasco Sheriff's Office with hopes that deputies would take him into custody or have him admitted to the hospital, but authorities couldn't help. "


Damn you motherfarking idiots. The ONE TIME someone specifically asks you to take someone away, you don't? Maybe the parents should have claimed that the son was video taping some on-duty cop. That would have done the trick.

 
2012-02-15 10:11:20 PM
Well it's no falling down.
 
2012-02-15 10:12:08 PM

PainInTheASP: "CDs by the Fugees, Linkin Park and Pink Floyd sat in the console next to a faded 3-year-old movie ticket."

So, do you think Brain Damage was playing when they tasered him?


I was thinking it was maybe some Syd Barrett that drove him over the edge, 'cause his stuff can do that.
 
2012-02-15 10:12:53 PM
It's a tumour.

(no, it probably is)
 
2012-02-15 10:13:11 PM
If you combined the last 2 stories on Fark together, it would have all made a lot more sense.
 
2012-02-15 10:15:08 PM
On that stretch of highway, how would they even know if someone was causing an unusual amount of accidents? Or even notice them?
 
2012-02-15 10:18:17 PM
I'm calling B.S. on this. There's no way a 2000 Ford minivan is capable of moving under it's own power.
 
2012-02-15 10:20:59 PM
www.motifake.com
 
2012-02-15 10:22:27 PM
Gyrfalcon - When I saw "US 19...Hudson" I immediately thought "hit and run". That stretch of road is like playing Frogger from the car's perspective, but instead of a frog crossing the road you have a variety of haggard people.
 
2012-02-15 10:22:36 PM
Wow... 6' 8", 300 lbs and they're surprised it took 6 taser shots to get this guy to stop?

That's insane, but I guess that old guy who flipped his truck will make sure he's doing the speed limit, and not 5 under, from now on...

A few snowbirds were holding me at speed hostage today, on my way to work... Busy areas with no way to pass them and they were hitting their brakes frequently, doing 40 (or less) in a 45, and finally when an area opened up so I could pass them, they gunned it... And slowed back down after the passing area...

But at no time did I think about ramming them in my minivan...
 
2012-02-15 10:23:37 PM

PainInTheASP: "CDs by the Fugees, Linkin Park and Pink Floyd sat in the console next to a faded 3-year-old movie ticket."

So, do you think Brain Damage was playing when they tasered him?


"One of my Turns" apparently.
 
2012-02-15 10:29:28 PM

Arcturus72: Wow... 6' 8", 300 lbs and they're surprised it took 6 taser shots to get this guy to stop?

That's insane, but I guess that old guy who flipped his truck will make sure he's doing the speed limit, and not 5 under, from now on...

A few snowbirds were holding me at speed hostage today, on my way to work... Busy areas with no way to pass them and they were hitting their brakes frequently, doing 40 (or less) in a 45, and finally when an area opened up so I could pass them, they gunned it... And slowed back down after the passing area...

But at no time did I think about ramming them in my minivan...


I want to ram them just from reading your account of the drive to work. Those f'ers!
 
2012-02-15 10:31:05 PM
Do bipolar folk feel remorse about damage they cause? Or do they just shrug it off. Or not even remember the episodes.
 
2012-02-15 10:37:19 PM

nytmare: Do bipolar folk feel remorse about damage they cause? Or do they just shrug it off. Or not even remember the episodes.


Yes, they experience all of the feelings you do. One would probably remember, unless it was a complete psychotic break from reality, in which case you might not remember it too well, especially after a few weeks of doing the Thorazine shuffle.
 
2012-02-15 10:37:49 PM
This line just made me laugh...
WEEKI WACHEE - Something inside Richard Barrett Jr. changed over the last few days.

not only the phrase but the town listed, you can't make this stuff up

As for the pink floyd...not enough pink floyd man, guess he didnt get to the "comfortably numb" song
(btw, I grew to hate that frig'n song after hearing ifor at least 200,000 times, so maybe it WAS playing and caused him to go off the deep end).
 
2012-02-15 10:45:16 PM

skinink: " The family had even called the Pasco Sheriff's Office with hopes that deputies would take him into custody or have him admitted to the hospital, but authorities couldn't help. "
Damn you motherfarking idiots. The ONE TIME someone specifically asks you to take someone away, you don't? Maybe the parents should have claimed that the son was video taping some on-duty cop. That would have done the trick.


Because after the 60's there was major reform to make it increadbly hard to commit someone because there were lots of cases of people getting family members commited for no reason?
 
2012-02-15 10:59:09 PM
It sounds like the 2000 Ford minivan will survive the end of the world.
 
2012-02-15 10:59:38 PM

nytmare: Do bipolar folk feel remorse about damage they cause? Or do they just shrug it off. Or not even remember the episodes.



there are a shiatload of people with b-p d that are happily running their own businesses, some have PhD.'s, some are successful authors, etcetera.

daily life is sometimes difficult, for anyone. trying to get by with the social stygmata of mental illness, the unwanted side effects of prescription medication and trying to live with a condition that is never cured takes more personal strength and conviction than you may imagine.

every loss of patience or public outburst can easily become a source of
humiliation and embarrassment for a b-p d patient. because next week you have to go back to that post office, or food shop in that store.

co-workers make shiatty remarks thinking they are being clever. they are being hurtful, but most people are dicks to begin with. it may never occur to them that their zingers and stereotypical asshole remarks linger on the person they are directed at.

some patients can return to work. some can't. i get to enjoy soiling my clothes at least 3 times a week because of the meds.

being bi-polar does not mean you are stupid, or you have no recall, or you have no remorse.

most people will try to avoid you after they find out you are a mental health patient because of their personal ignorance, and because they are terribly mislead by TV and movies.

the lucky ones have someone that is strong enough to stand by them and be supportive. there are not many lucky ones.
 
2012-02-15 11:03:26 PM
Barrett, wearing bedroom slippers, was loaded into an ambulance and taken to a local hospital with minor injuries.

Very surprised to read that
 
2012-02-15 11:03:37 PM
All vehicles should have a remote killswitch that cops can engage to turn your vehicle off. From satellite, even. Now that's a nanny-state I could believe in.

Maybe not feasible, though I think one company was working on a giant Taser-like device to shoot an out-of-control or escaping driver's car with enough juice to disable the vehicle's EFI or something.

One thing I loooove to watch is the beatdown escaping criminal gets after trying to flee and endangering others with car. I love to hear the screams of worthless criminal scum as the Taser darts shock their dirty hide.
 
2012-02-15 11:04:00 PM
cvr.pl

/that was a fun, fun game
 
2012-02-15 11:08:21 PM

ZzeusS: Barrett, wearing bedroom slippers, was loaded into an ambulance and taken to a local hospital with minor injuries.

Very surprised to read that


I'd be surprised too to hear the hospital had minor injuries.
 
2012-02-15 11:10:18 PM
I forgot to add, Maybe he's trying out for a sequal to Deathproof (new window)?
 
2012-02-15 11:10:21 PM
Sowinski followed the van as the driver went through a red light at U.S. 19 and State Road 50. Three hundred yards north, the van rolled to a stop. Sowinski pulled up next to the van and said Barrett began threatening and screaming at him "like a maniac."

"F--- you," Sowinski recalled him yelling. "You wanna go? You wanna go?"




south-park.maxupdates.tv
 
2012-02-15 11:11:00 PM
This all happened real close to me. Its also the type of thing that causes me to keep my Beretta PX4 and 2 full clips of hollow points in the car. People around here are farking nuts. Ramming my car, yelling and asking me if I "wanna go?" wouldnt end well.

Also, I dont wanna hear any BS whining about dude being bipolar...hes clearly a menace, shame the cops only shot him with a taser. One less whacko around here would be nice.

Knowing the area I wouldnt be surprised if some meth or crack was involved.
 
2012-02-15 11:11:33 PM
Shine on, you crazy diamond.
 
2012-02-15 11:11:38 PM
Were they trying to increase the word-count on the article for a homework assignment or something... the most pointless paragraph that has nothing at all to do with the article was this one:

"A can of Braswell's fig preserves lay on the floorboard. CDs by the Fugees, Linkin Park and Pink Floyd sat in the console next to a faded 3-year-old movie ticket.

A bumper sticker pasted to the rear door depicted a lighthouse from New York.

It said: "I've Seen The Light."


Or is the article writer some sort of hippy trying to make himself look like an artistic writer or some sort? I don't get the reasoning.
 
2012-02-15 11:12:27 PM
KrispyKritter

You sound quite knowledgeable about the situation. I hope you have someone supportive. I have been the person of support for someone who is a mental health patient. The position comes with a lot of responsibility, and can be both tiring and rewarding.

As for the person in the story, it sounds like his meds may have been at issue. I know from talking with professionals in the field, some bi-polar patients will stop taking their meds because they 'feel good' or 'don't like how they feel' taking their meds, or 'like the way they feel' off their meds, especially if they tend toward the manic.

I am thinking either he stopped taking his meds, or for some reason they may have stopped working. I know from experience, sometimes psych meds needs to be change to maintain effectiveness.
 
2012-02-15 11:29:26 PM
img191.imageshack.us

Maybe he wasn't mad...

...he was horny
 
2012-02-15 11:37:16 PM

thatboyoverthere: skinink: " The family had even called the Pasco Sheriff's Office with hopes that deputies would take him into custody or have him admitted to the hospital, but authorities couldn't help. "
Damn you motherfarking idiots. The ONE TIME someone specifically asks you to take someone away, you don't? Maybe the parents should have claimed that the son was video taping some on-duty cop. That would have done the trick.

Because after the 60's there was major reform to make it increadbly hard to commit someone because there were lots of cases of people getting family members commited for no reason?


Speaking as an older someone (43) with a very mentally ill adult sister (45) - that reform has probably gone too far in the other direction. We've tried to have her committed repeatedly, but you just can't. So she ended up in jail for a while, but then she was right back at my parent's house as big a problem as ever. She also doesn't actually physically hurt anyone except herself, so no one gives a shiat.

She's already lost her shiat numerous times, but if she ever focuses her delusions on the world at large, I'll be the person on the news with a list of people we called asking for help with a giant "NO" written next to each one. And it's not like we wouldn't pay for it - you flat out can't force an adult into therapy unless they hurt someone else first. If she doesn't want to go, then she doesn't have to go. And the court-ordered therapy was a joke: two hours a month. She didn't even bother to act normal for either session, but they signed off on her anyway.
 
2012-02-15 11:39:13 PM

KrispyKritter: nytmare: Do bipolar folk feel remorse about damage they cause? Or do they just shrug it off. Or not even remember the episodes.


there are a shiatload of people with b-p d that are happily running their own businesses, some have PhD.'s, some are successful authors, etcetera.

daily life is sometimes difficult, for anyone. trying to get by with the social stygmata of mental illness, the unwanted side effects of prescription medication and trying to live with a condition that is never cured takes more personal strength and conviction than you may imagine.

every loss of patience or public outburst can easily become a source of
humiliation and embarrassment for a b-p d patient. because next week you have to go back to that post office, or food shop in that store.

co-workers make shiatty remarks thinking they are being clever. they are being hurtful, but most people are dicks to begin with. it may never occur to them that their zingers and stereotypical asshole remarks linger on the person they are directed at.

some patients can return to work. some can't. i get to enjoy soiling my clothes at least 3 times a week because of the meds.

being bi-polar does not mean you are stupid, or you have no recall, or you have no remorse.

most people will try to avoid you after they find out you are a mental health patient because of their personal ignorance, and because they are terribly mislead by TV and movies.

the lucky ones have someone that is strong enough to stand by them and be supportive. there are not many lucky ones.


I said, "WHAT'S HIS FARK HANDLE?"

/ Shocked to have been the Weeners that, just amazed
 
2012-02-15 11:43:05 PM

Primum: All vehicles should have a remote killswitch that cops can engage to turn your vehicle off. From satellite, even. Now that's a nanny-state I could believe in.

Maybe not feasible, though I think one company was working on a giant Taser-like device to shoot an out-of-control or escaping driver's car with enough juice to disable the vehicle's EFI or something.

One thing I loooove to watch is the beatdown escaping criminal gets after trying to flee and endangering others with car. I love to hear the screams of worthless criminal scum as the Taser darts shock their dirty hide.


A few months back I read about a zapper that would shoot an EMP into a car's electronics. GAME OVER. As I recall you could even aim it out of a chopper and kill the ignition of a runaway maniac.

Anybody know anything about this?
 
2012-02-16 12:06:55 AM

Lsherm: thatboyoverthere: skinink: " The family had even called the Pasco Sheriff's Office with hopes that deputies would take him into custody or have him admitted to the hospital, but authorities couldn't help. "
Damn you motherfarking idiots. The ONE TIME someone specifically asks you to take someone away, you don't? Maybe the parents should have claimed that the son was video taping some on-duty cop. That would have done the trick.

Because after the 60's there was major reform to make it increadbly hard to commit someone because there were lots of cases of people getting family members commited for no reason?

Speaking as an older someone (43) with a very mentally ill adult sister (45) - that reform has probably gone too far in the other direction. We've tried to have her committed repeatedly, but you just can't. So she ended up in jail for a while, but then she was right back at my parent's house as big a problem as ever. She also doesn't actually physically hurt anyone except herself, so no one gives a shiat.

She's already lost her shiat numerous times, but if she ever focuses her delusions on the world at large, I'll be the person on the news with a list of people we called asking for help with a giant "NO" written next to each one. And it's not like we wouldn't pay for it - you flat out can't force an adult into therapy unless they hurt someone else first. If she doesn't want to go, then she doesn't have to go. And the court-ordered therapy was a joke: two hours a month. She didn't even bother to act normal for either session, but they signed off on her anyway.


Agreed. My Abnormal Psych professor was lamenting the fact that despite seeing cases of the person being a textbook case for the DSM that they couldn't get committed.
/Fun Fact: It takes three professional to say that they are mentally ill before they can be committed.
 
2012-02-16 12:11:40 AM
I thought one of the major reasons we can't commit people anymore is due to Reagan stopping federal mental treatment. Not like we have a ton of looney bins left in the USA anymore.
 
2012-02-16 12:17:44 AM
Come to think of it, I wonder how radically society would change if mental institutions were re-instated.

Would it be abused as it once was again? (I suppose there can be a filter to prevent this - something like 3 independent professionals certifying mental illness)

Would it help with homelessness? (Especially since the major cause of homelessness is the inability to hold a job, something that would require a mental incapacity to function.)

Would the assholes of society stop being such assholes since there is a risk of commitment?

/ alas, it's all a mental exercise, especially since I have little to no facts to reach to the logical likelihood.
 
2012-02-16 12:26:13 AM
That was a really well written article. No snark.
 
2012-02-16 12:36:30 AM

thatboyoverthere: /Fun Fact: It takes three professional to say that they are mentally ill before they can be committed.


Three professional what? Because it seems to me the only "professionals" that count are in the court system. Everyone else is just spinning wheels.
 
2012-02-16 01:36:09 AM
I blame the fig preserves. He probably ate a bunch of them and just needed a bathroom NOW!
 
2012-02-16 01:51:14 AM
One more reason not to buy a Toyota:
www.tampabay.com

...since a car from Detroit's own brands can take it out with less damage:
www.tampabay.com
 
2012-02-16 02:33:30 AM

sethstorm: One more reason not to buy a Toyota:


Well it did keep a 72-year-old man alive after flipping six times, so there's that.
 
2012-02-16 03:14:17 AM

PainInTheASP: "CDs by the Fugees, Linkin Park and Pink Floyd sat in the console next to a faded 3-year-old movie ticket."

So, do you think Brain Damage was playing when they tasered him?


A bipolar man named Barrett with a Pink Floyd CD and no one has posted this yet?

upload.wikimedia.org

Oh where are you now, pussy willow that smiled on this leaf?
 
2012-02-16 04:10:53 AM
The family had even called the Pasco Sheriff's Office with hopes that deputies would take him into custody or have him admitted to the hospital, but authorities couldn't help.

Uh, there is the Baker Act, which allows authorities to confine a person to a hospital or mental institution for 24 to 48 hours for observation. Apparently, these guys didn't want to bother.

So, you think Bipolar depression is a 'wussy' disease? Think again. It sounds like he went off his meds. Most of the time, even with meds, a bipolar depressive still feels depressed. The meds just stop the highs and lows. They also affect the sex drive. (Lying manufacturers say only 5% will experience erectile dysfunction, but psychiatrists know it's actually 95%.)

If you've had bipolar for awhile, it's tough to cure. Maybe impossible. Some are even turning to the old electro-shock treatments with some positive results.

Stress can trigger a bipolar 'reaction'. Usually there are attendant disorders along with it, just to balance things out. Like OCD, agoraphobia, anxiety affective disorder and their various levels of seriousness.

When the 'craziness' hits, the affected might not realize what he's doing. Sometimes he might realize it, but not be able to stop it. Meds tend to greatly reduce such episodes.

BTW. Bipolar Disorder can run in families. It can be genetic. Sometimes, it can be triggered by abuse. Remember that shy guy in high school who got ridiculed and picked on a lot? He didn't fight? Chances are he will turn depressive before graduation, and bipolar after.

If someone harasses him while in a manic episode, if not in treatment, chances are this 'non-combatant' will jump in with both feet, swinging a 2x4 and NOT run away.
 
2012-02-16 05:09:24 AM

SpeedyBB:

A few months back I read about a zapper that would shoot an EMP into a car's electronics. GAME OVER. As I recall you could even aim it out of a chopper and kill the ignition of a runaway maniac.

Anybody know anything about this?


EMP is way way overrated and unpredictable in its effects on any one piece of equipment. They tried this. It had to be done from a few feet away, not a chopper, and it worked maybe 30-40% of the time, on new vehicles. Older ones, not so much. Diesels, not really at all.

/technology. It's not that much like what you see in the movies.
 
2012-02-16 07:22:01 AM
Where can I get some Braswell's fig preserves?
 
2012-02-16 07:54:28 AM

Gordon Bennett: [cvr.pl image 640x400]

/that was a fun, fun game


What game is that? I simply must know!
 
2012-02-16 08:21:11 AM
I take it nobody crashed into the "Stop and Play"?
So we're still good for the Skeeball tournament then?
OK.
life in the big city.....
 
2012-02-16 11:27:00 AM

LtDarkstar: Were they trying to increase the word-count on the article for a homework assignment or something... the most pointless paragraph that has nothing at all to do with the article was this one:

"A can of Braswell's fig preserves lay on the floorboard. CDs by the Fugees, Linkin Park and Pink Floyd sat in the console next to a faded 3-year-old movie ticket.

A bumper sticker pasted to the rear door depicted a lighthouse from New York.

It said: "I've Seen The Light."

Or is the article writer some sort of hippy trying to make himself look like an artistic writer or some sort? I don't get the reasoning.


I came here to complain about this as well... I also would've included the preceeding paragraph as equally pointless:

By late morning, authorities had cleaned up most of the wreckage and prepared to tow away Barrett's van. Both of its airbags had deployed, and the front window was smashed. Oil leaked from its undercarriage.

Well, thanks for the in-depth visuals, reporter dude! This guy clearly wants to be writing fiction novels or something, not news articles...
 
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