theorellior: leviosaurus: I've a;ways wondered if CS Lewis actually wrote LOTR, and Tolkien just adapted it. Simarillion might be what Tolkien's writing looks like without Lewis' influence.

Have you read any Lewis? Tolkien was no amazing prose stylist, but every bit of his writings went far deeper and were more interesting than Lewis' piss-poor stories papered over Christian apologetics.

Lewis also wrote an epic trilogy, but I don't see Out of the Silent Planet coming to a cineplex near you anytime soon.

Yeah. CS Lewis was pretty good at laser-targeting his fantasy stories towards kids, not adults. He did a hell of a job too - the Narnia books are still bestsellers in children's books. Imagine what his stories would have been like if he had written them for adults. Kinda like LOTR, I suspect.

theorellior: JamesWhitsun: It's Morse.

C'mon, man. Give me some credit. ; )

Funny enough, a lot of people don't make that connection, but it's the only real way to "speak" Morse. Saying "Dash-dash dash-dash-dash-dash-dot dot-dot-dot-dot-dash" doesn't give you a good auditory version of CW.

if_i_really_have_to: So it's either some sort of dwarf canon

Hey, I've got a dwarf cannon:



/Well, more of a mortar, but close enough.

theorellior: As a kid who received the boxed set, I can tell you that only The Lion, the Witch..., Prince Caspian, Dawn Treader and The Magician's Nephew were worth reading twice. The rest of them were boring, didactic, and strangely racist. The depictions of Lewis' Calormen were far worse than Tolkien's Southrons, as far as brutish brown people were concerned.

Not really the point I was trying to make, but yeah, those were my favorite too. I always figured the racism in Tolkien was represented by the Orcs, Goblins and other assorted subhumans.

Erix: As I mentioned above, try to track down The Dark Tower by Lewis. It shows more clearly what kind of adult-targeted story he'd be able to tell if he didn't always get bogged down in religious allegory (at least not yet).

I'll look for it, thanks!

You know what Lord of the Rings needed more of?



/I would ravish the entire population of Lothlorien every night till the end of time

steveurkel: one does not simply translate

They didn't have to translate it. It's written in English, instead of Dwarvish, and in Roman letters instead of Tengwar or Cirth.

teto85: I cannot wait to see Mr. Jackson's remake of "The Dambusters" WETA has/will construct 10+ full size Lancaster mockups rather than go the CGI cheap route. It will be just as good, maybe better than the original (One can imagine)

I thought 'Star Wars' was the remake of 'The Dambusters'?

Oh no, wait. 'Star Wars' is the remake of 'The Hidden Fortress,' that's right. Only the last act is pretty much 'The Dambusters'. So yeah.

Vangor: Always thought of Silmarillion as a better written, slightly more interesting Genesis. Band and book.

It also makes a little bit more sense, if you ask me.

Raharu: Do you think there are people like Bevets and Tatsuma, but for fictional stuff like Lord of the Rings...

"The wise speak only of what they know." ~ J.R.R. Tolkien

Keizer_Ghidorah: /I would ravish the entire population of Lothlorien every night till the end of time

It looks like you might need to get in line.

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Keizer_Ghidorah: /I would ravish the entire population of Lothlorien every night till the end of time

It looks like you might need to get in line.

We can alternate days, and on Sunday both of us can ravish together.



Uuuuunnnnnffffff

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Aquapope: It's not "Dwarf language contract", Subby. It's English, but hard to read because of low resolution. Not really very nerdy at all.

Pointing out that's it's written in a script that resembles Tengwar, a script developed by Fëanor, creator of the Silmarills and son of Finwë, the High King of the Noldor in Valinor during the First Age, that would be pretty nerdy.

No, pointing out that the the Silmarils were created from the light of the Two Trees, which were poisoned by Ungoliant, one of the Silmarils was taken into the sky by Earendil (essentially becoming Venus), the light of which was captured by Galadriel in the phial she gave to Frodo and was used by Sam to fight off Shelob who was a descendant of Ungoliant, so that the same light that nourished Ungoliant harmed Shelob, that would be nerdy.

Assimilate This: Aquapope: It's not "Dwarf language contract", Subby. It's English, but hard to read because of low resolution. Not really very nerdy at all.

Pointing out that's it's written in a script that resembles Tengwar, a script developed by Fëanor, creator of the Silmarills and son of Finwë, the High King of the Noldor in Valinor during the First Age, that would be pretty nerdy.

No, pointing out that the the Silmarils were created from the light of the Two Trees, which were poisoned by Ungoliant, one of the Silmarils was taken into the sky by Earendil (essentially becoming Venus), the light of which was captured by Galadriel in the phial she gave to Frodo and was used by Sam to fight off Shelob who was a descendant of Ungoliant, so that the same light that nourished Ungoliant harmed Shelob, that would be nerdy.

All I can say is that I was fooled at first glance, too, and I write Tengwar.