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2012-02-15 08:28:17 AM
Oh for farks sake

Lets make this crystal clear:

Iraq had absolutely no ties to the 9/11 hijackers.

Christ, you idiots are almost as bad as birthers
 
2012-02-15 08:34:39 AM
Between this and that lady who said women should expect to be raped and that the military shouldn't do anything about it, Fox News is having a hell of a week.
 
2012-02-15 08:45:55 AM
Fox News: telling their viewers exactly what they want to hear since 1996
 
2012-02-15 08:48:43 AM
Damn Media Matters. Always typing out the stuff they say on Fox News. When will they stop being jerks?
 
2012-02-15 08:49:39 AM
 
2012-02-15 08:49:46 AM
Oh come one Smitty, there isn't anyone that is really that frickin' pretard...ed...oh spit, there is...

As God as my witness, I thought that journalists had standards...
 
2012-02-15 08:50:26 AM
Jesus wept.
 
2012-02-15 08:51:59 AM
Aarontology: Between this and that lady who said women should expect to be raped and that the military shouldn't do anything about it, Fox News is having a hell of a week.

Plus there was the Politico article yesterday that said Republicans are abandoning Fox News because more than 70% of viewers think Fox has gone to the left recently.
 
2012-02-15 08:55:10 AM
I'm not all that familiar with fox news protocol, but I thought that the only hot women allowed on air on fox had to be loudmouthed propaganda-mouthpieces. Full respect to whoever this woman is - she didn't back down for an instant and her points, as common-sensible as they were to anyone in the non-make-believe-world, were flawless.
Hats off to you, hot blonde smart fox woman. You've done fox a disservice, and for that, I thank you.
 
2012-02-15 08:57:53 AM
Keep farking that chicken, and sticking to the talking points.

Remain calm. All is well!
 
2012-02-15 08:59:42 AM
GAT_00: Plus there was the Politico article yesterday that said Republicans are abandoning Fox News because more than 70% of viewers think Fox has gone to the left recently.

Oh, that's hilarious.
 
2012-02-15 09:01:06 AM
GAT_00: Aarontology: Between this and that lady who said women should expect to be raped and that the military shouldn't do anything about it, Fox News is having a hell of a week.

Plus there was the Politico article yesterday that said Republicans are abandoning Fox News because more than 70% of viewers think Fox has gone to the left recently.


For the sake of humanity, I hope that that isn't true because that is just damned insane. Or possibly, for the sake of humanity, I hope that it is true, because then those viewers will have no choice but to be persuaded by the damn dirty liberal media.

I don't know what to think!!! Fox news, please tell me what to think about this!!!!
 
2012-02-15 09:03:01 AM
To: SeekAndFind
The opinion that Osama and Saddam would never play together was totally DUMB.

Saddam was the producer of WMD and Osama would be the delivery boy was the reality.

Bush did the absolute right thing.

And if Bubba had done the right thing after the '93 hit on the NYC Tower, maybe 9-11 would have never happened.
7 posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:30:05 AM by Sacajaweau
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2012-02-15 09:14:56 AM
I expect nothing less from the willfully ignorant, partisan assholes at FOX News...
 
2012-02-15 09:15:51 AM
gimmegimme: Damn Media Matters. Always typing out the stuff they say on Fox News. When will they stop being jerks?

What do you expect from Soros-funded lie machines?
 
2012-02-15 09:16:53 AM
SOROS!
 
2012-02-15 09:21:27 AM
make me some tea: gimmegimme: Damn Media Matters. Always typing out the stuff they say on Fox News. When will they stop being jerks?

What do you expect from Soros-funded lie machines?


Seriously! You're not supposed to remember or fact-check the stuff they say on Fox News. It's more about the feeling.
 
2012-02-15 09:25:13 AM
I feel sorry for Fox News viewers.

The world has got to be a terrifying place for them.
 
2012-02-15 09:25:26 AM
Jake Havechek: SOROS!

DRINK!
 
2012-02-15 09:26:47 AM
gimmegimme: make me some tea: gimmegimme: Damn Media Matters. Always typing out the stuff they say on Fox News. When will they stop being jerks?

What do you expect from Soros-funded lie machines?

Seriously! You're not supposed to remember or fact-check the stuff they say on Fox News. It's more about the feeling.


My gut tells me that Saddam was behind 9/11, so I'm gonna just go ahead and praise Bush for his efforts to keep America safe by attacking Iraq. Obama murdered bin Laden in cold blood, and he didn't even have anything to do with it.
 
2012-02-15 09:38:11 AM
Footsteps lead to Saddam

andriathompson.files.wordpress.com

Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein were walking in the sand, and bin Laden noticed that during the toughest parts of his 9/11 planning, there were only one set of footsteps. He asked Saddam, "Why weren't you with me during the tough times?"

Saddam answered, "During the tough times, I was carrying you"
 
2012-02-15 09:38:30 AM
Vodka Zombie: I feel sorry for Fox News viewers.

The world has got to be a terrifying place for them.


Fox has gone liberal according to WND. No. Really. Stop laughing. I'm perfectly serious. If you're going to roll around on the floor like that I'm leaving.
 
2012-02-15 09:38:35 AM
cman: Oh for farks sake

Lets make this crystal clear:

Iraq had absolutely no ties to the 9/11 hijackers.

Christ, you idiots are almost as bad as birthers


I'm trying to decide who has more logic, reason, and evidence to back them up. The Saddam did 9/11 people or 9/11 Truthers. I think the Saddam did 9/11 people are ahead. But just barely. Mostly because they don't draw a direct line. "Footsteps that led to Saddam" and the like.
 
2012-02-15 09:43:35 AM
cman: Oh for farks sake

Lets make this crystal clear:

Iraq had absolutely no ties to the 9/11 hijackers.

Christ, you idiots are almost as bad as birthers


So you're saying that Saddam probably did 9/11?
 
2012-02-15 09:49:53 AM
Eddie Adams from Torrance: cman: Oh for farks sake

Lets make this crystal clear:

Iraq had absolutely no ties to the 9/11 hijackers.

Christ, you idiots are almost as bad as birthers

So you're saying that Saddam probably did 9/11?


Are you just asking questions here?
 
2012-02-15 09:49:57 AM
i1125.photobucket.com
 
2012-02-15 09:51:21 AM
Eddie Adams from Torrance: cman: Oh for farks sake

Lets make this crystal clear:

Iraq had absolutely no ties to the 9/11 hijackers.

Christ, you idiots are almost as bad as birthers

So you're saying that Saddam probably did 9/11?


That certainly would be politically expedient!
 
2012-02-15 10:04:50 AM
gimmegimme: Damn Media Matters. Always typing out the stuff they say on Fox News. When will they stop being jerks?

Oh, this is even better. No typing. No commentary. No selective editing. Just the actual clip, in all its bizarre splendor.
 
2012-02-15 10:08:50 AM
I enjoy watching people lose an argument, and then have their entire thought process shift from "making arguments" to "varbalizing random and semi-associated thoughts"

Reasonable person: Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11
Moron on FNC: I KNOW DEAD PEOPLE AND IRAQ AND IRAN AND TERRORISM AND NEW ATTACKS AND STATE SPONSORS
 
2012-02-15 10:09:04 AM
His inference that Saddam had anything to do with 9/11 is laughable.

His defense of that opinion by invoking the loss of lives of friends on that day is despicable.

What a disgusting man.
 
2012-02-15 10:14:17 AM
JerseyTim: His inference that Saddam had anything to do with 9/11 is laughable.

His defense of that opinion by invoking the loss of lives of friends on that day is despicable.

What a disgusting man.


What makes it even more repulsive is that it's 10 years later.

A few years after, you get emotional in an argument, fine. It's human and that's understandable.

10 years later? And you're not even emotional? You're just using it as some type of evidence? That's disgusting and I'm glad the other person had the chops to call him out on it, because I wasn't expecting that.
 
2012-02-15 10:15:28 AM
Transcript and more detail. Link (new window)
 
2012-02-15 10:18:18 AM
Dusk-You-n-Me: Transcript and more detail. Link (new window)

Jesus. That guy is a colossal asshole.

And that poor pretty blonde lady will probably never be on Fox again.
 
2012-02-15 10:30:29 AM
Dusk-You-n-Me: Transcript and more detail. Link (new window)

Ad hominem
Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
Appeal to emotion
Appeal to pity

Did I miss any other of the fallacies he used?
 
2012-02-15 10:36:51 AM
vernonFL: Footsteps lead to Saddam

[andriathompson.files.wordpress.com image 640x853]

Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein were walking in the sand, and bin Laden noticed that during the toughest parts of his 9/11 planning, there were only one set of footsteps. He asked Saddam, "Why weren't you with me during the tough times?"

Saddam answered, "During the tough times, I was carrying you"


Nice try. Those footsteps lead to Jacob from Lost. Duh
 
2012-02-15 10:46:00 AM
did he say that mahmoud ahmadinejad was directly responsible for 9/11? the mahmoud ahmadinejad that didn't become president of iran until 2005?

also assumed until the very end of the interview that the crazy dude was the guest and the reasonable lady was the host. ah fox "business"
 
2012-02-15 12:01:35 PM
hubiestubert: As God as my witness, I thought that journalists had standards...

The people on Fox News are not journalists. They are entertainers. Call them what they are.
 
2012-02-15 12:01:46 PM
Because he knows the mouth-breathers that rely on Fox as a news source will believe anything?
 
2012-02-15 12:02:02 PM
vernonFL: Footsteps lead to Saddam

[andriathompson.files.wordpress.com image 640x853]

Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein were walking in the sand, and bin Laden noticed that during the toughest parts of his 9/11 planning, there were only one set of footsteps. He asked Saddam, "Why weren't you with me during the tough times?"

Saddam answered, "During the tough times, I was carrying you"


Gets better every thread. Never give up.
 
2012-02-15 12:02:27 PM
Anybody notice how the right wing media has been going after Media Matters this week? Daily Caller and Breitbart have been incestuously reporting on each other's blurbs and touring the blog circuit pretty heavily -- like it was to be the next ACORN.
 
2012-02-15 12:03:02 PM
Aarontology: GAT_00: Plus there was the Politico article yesterday that said Republicans are abandoning Fox News because more than 70% of viewers think Fox has gone to the left recently.

Oh, that's hilarious.


Something about evil eating its own....
 
2012-02-15 12:04:29 PM
I always tune to Fox Business News for up-to-the-minute business information! I need to know who caused 9/11 in order to manage my portfolio.

Who is this retarded shiat for?
 
2012-02-15 12:06:57 PM
Jake Havechek: To: SeekAndFind
The opinion that Osama and Saddam would never play together was totally DUMB.

Saddam was the producer of WMD and Osama would be the delivery boy was the reality.

Bush did the absolute right thing.

And if Bubba had done the right thing after the '93 hit on the NYC Tower, maybe 9-11 would have never happened.
7 posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:30:05 AM by Sacajaweau
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For some reason, the part of that derp that made me laugh was that (s)he signed it "Sacajawea."
 
2012-02-15 12:07:08 PM
vernonFL: Footsteps lead to Saddam



Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein were walking in the sand, and bin Laden noticed that during the toughest parts of his 9/11 planning, there were only one set of footsteps. He asked Saddam, "Why weren't you with me during the tough times?"

Saddam answered, "During the tough times, I was carrying you"


Is that picture the cover of the hallmark card you gave your left hand for valentines day, Vern?

God... Every thread with the stupid from you.
 
2012-02-15 12:07:24 PM
We need to create a Fox News drinking game.
 
2012-02-15 12:08:08 PM
i.imgur.com

Herpa derpa
Derpity doo
 
2012-02-15 12:08:10 PM
Rapmaster2000: I always tune to Fox Business News for up-to-the-minute business information! I need to know who caused 9/11 in order to manage my portfolio.

Who is this retarded shiat for?


I think cranky old people, honestly. I've never met a single Fox News viewer who wasn't over 55 and bitter.
 
2012-02-15 12:08:31 PM
No wonder they fired judge Napolitano, They were just gearing up to bring in the real talent!
 
2012-02-15 12:09:31 PM
Waxing_Chewbacca: vernonFL: Footsteps lead to Saddam



Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein were walking in the sand, and bin Laden noticed that during the toughest parts of his 9/11 planning, there were only one set of footsteps. He asked Saddam, "Why weren't you with me during the tough times?"

Saddam answered, "During the tough times, I was carrying you"

Is that picture the cover of the hallmark card you gave your left hand for valentines day, Vern?

God... Every thread with the stupid from you.


Really? I thought that was a funny take on the Footsteps poem.
 
2012-02-15 12:10:50 PM
gimmegimme: [i1125.photobucket.com image 400x349]

So that's why Newt wants to build that moon base.
 
2012-02-15 12:11:20 PM
 
2012-02-15 12:11:37 PM
Kudos to that woman for sticking to that point and putting that moron in his place.
 
2012-02-15 12:12:54 PM
DarnoKonrad: Anybody notice how the right wing media has been going after Media Matters this week? Daily Caller and Breitbart have been incestuously reporting on each other's blurbs and touring the blog circuit pretty heavily -- like it was to be the next ACORN.

One of the old guys at work was giving FOX & Friends talking points about Media Matters in the lunch room. I wisely kept my trap shut as old dudes hate to be told they're full of shiat.
 
2012-02-15 12:13:00 PM
Dusk-You-n-Me: [i.imgur.com image 302x303]


[motherjones.com image 338x316]

Chart of the Day: Republicans Don't Trust Anyone (Except Fox News) (new window)


That's a good example of how pliable minds can be conditioned. Sad, but good.
 
2012-02-15 12:13:53 PM
All the pu**ified dems want to do is educate, feed, and give money away to the poor. Don't you know ALL poor people deserve what they have and need to just be grateful for what they have like Jesus would be. We need to cut all these government handout programs and put all the money into the military to stop all Muslims. If we don't do this then we will all die at the hand of akbar bin shimmy shammy and his evil anti-jesus folowers. Debt is theI price we have to pay in order to secure America's future in a world where we sell guns to other countries to fight wars for us to help us eventually get out of debt.
 
2012-02-15 12:15:49 PM
cman: Iraq had absolutely no ties to the 9/11 hijackers.

Christ, you idiots are almost as bad as birthers



Wake up sheeple! You've got it all mixed up: Osama was born in a secret CIA facility in Honolulu, Saddam kept his WMDs in Kenya, and Obama did 9/11
 
2012-02-15 12:17:49 PM
SJKebab: GAT_00: Aarontology: Between this and that lady who said women should expect to be raped and that the military shouldn't do anything about it, Fox News is having a hell of a week.

Plus there was the Politico article yesterday that said Republicans are abandoning Fox News because more than 70% of viewers think Fox has gone to the left recently.

For the sake of humanity, I hope that that isn't true because that is just damned insane. Or possibly, for the sake of humanity, I hope that it is true, because then those viewers will have no choice but to be persuaded by the damn dirty liberal media.

I don't know what to think!!! Fox news, please tell me what to think about this!!!!


A local guy here in Philly on the conservative radio station (Michael Smerconish) was talking about this yesterday afternoon. He said that is part of the reason they dumped Glenn Beck... to take a step away from the uber-crazy and then said exactly the same thing about some of the general FOX audience jumping ship because of their 'move to the left'.

Keep in mind, you've got to be in the righty-right wilderness to detect that 'move to the left', but apparently it has, or is, happening.
 
2012-02-15 12:19:24 PM
Just because you had friends who died in 9-11, doesn't make anything you say about 9-11 automatically correct and unchallengable.

Seriously, go fark yourself you twerp.
 
2012-02-15 12:21:26 PM
James F. Campbell: hubiestubert: As God as my witness, I thought that journalists had standards...

The people on Fox News are not journalists. They are entertainers. Call them what they are.


Lying assholes?

Fox News has done massive damage to the media and political landscape.
 
2012-02-15 12:21:42 PM
Saddam and Iraq caused 9/11? I thought that's what all Fox News viewers believed? Hows today any different?
 
2012-02-15 12:21:49 PM
As often stated ; repeat a lie often enough and it will be believed
 
2012-02-15 12:22:58 PM
NeverDrunk23: Lying assholes?

Fox News has done massive damage to the media and political landscape.



They actually went to court with the defense that they had no obligation to tell the truth. Sadder part is that defense prevailed.
 
2012-02-15 12:24:14 PM
danvon: NeverDrunk23: Lying assholes?

Fox News has done massive damage to the media and political landscape.


They actually went to court with the defense that they had no obligation to tell the truth. Sadder part is that defense prevailed.


I don't think that was Fox News, but a local Fox affliate.
 
2012-02-15 12:25:10 PM
Saddam had to go either way. Don't conflate bad PR decisions with taking him out before the sanctions allowed him to resume WMD research, rebuilding his military, attacking the Kurds and invading his neighbors. While we're at it, it's been long enough since the 2000 "Election" that the left should be able to stop thinking "anything W is always evil". Can we grow up and get past that yet? i know it sucked to have the Supreme Court coronate him, but let's move on.
 
2012-02-15 12:25:23 PM
Obama caused 9/11 by invading Iraq and using drones in Kenya, where he was born
 
2012-02-15 12:25:38 PM
Aside from the idiocy of linking Sadaam to 9/11, the thing that really pisses me off/makes me want to smack Bolling upside the head is the "I had friend who died so I am the ultimate authority and you are being insensitive by stating facts." Fark him so much. That is some of the most offensive and cynical shiat I have heard in awhile. I used to watch almost every clip MM posted but I had to stop cause crap like this made me want to throw my computer out window of my 7th floor office.

Also...Obama is committing treason? Really? STFU.
 
2012-02-15 12:26:29 PM
apeiron242: Saddam had to go either way. Don't conflate bad PR decisions with taking him out before the sanctions allowed him to resume WMD research, rebuilding his military, attacking the Kurds and invading his neighbors. While we're at it, it's been long enough since the 2000 "Election" that the left should be able to stop thinking "anything W is always evil". Can we grow up and get past that yet? i know it sucked to have the Supreme Court coronate him, but let's move on.

How many other countries must we invade to prevent them from possibly doing bad stuff in the future?
 
2012-02-15 12:26:42 PM
apeiron242: Saddam had to go either way. Don't conflate bad PR decisions with taking him out before the sanctions allowed him to resume WMD research, rebuilding his military, attacking the Kurds and invading his neighbors. While we're at it, it's been long enough since the 2000 "Election" that the left should be able to stop thinking "anything W is always evil". Can we grow up and get past that yet? i know it sucked to have the Supreme Court coronate him, but let's move on.

Yeah, and it was totally worth 5,000+ dead Americans and thousands of Iraqis, right?
 
2012-02-15 12:27:17 PM
vernonFL: Footsteps lead to Saddam

You are the wind beneath my wings.
 
2012-02-15 12:27:19 PM
I like how offended she got by him trying the old, "I knew people who died on 9/11, you didn't". She also properly called out his horrific logic.
 
2012-02-15 12:31:49 PM
apeiron242: Saddam had to go either way. Don't conflate bad PR decisions with taking him out before the sanctions allowed him to resume WMD research, rebuilding his military, attacking the Kurds and invading his neighbors. While we're at it, it's been long enough since the 2000 "Election" that the left should be able to stop thinking "anything W is always evil". Can we grow up and get past that yet? i know it sucked to have the Supreme Court coronate him, but let's move on.

Mutherfarker, please. What you won't do is re-write history to suggest that "heeey, Saddam WAS a threat, but Bush just lied to have him taken out." We are a part of the United Nations for a reason. The sanctions were, per the inspectors, apparently successful in stopping Saddam's regime from creating nukes. Oh, and after spending many Billions of dollars and many thousands of lives, we were assured that Saddam had no WMDs. The war in Iraq was drummed up by neo-cons to maintain an excuse for our outrageous military budget. It had shiat to do with our safety.
 
2012-02-15 12:31:52 PM
apeiron242: Saddam had to go either way. Don't conflate bad PR decisions with taking him out before the sanctions allowed him to resume WMD research, rebuilding his military, attacking the Kurds and invading his neighbors. While we're at it, it's been long enough since the 2000 "Election" that the left should be able to stop thinking "anything W is always evil". Can we grow up and get past that yet? i know it sucked to have the Supreme Court coronate him, but let's move on.

s-ak.buzzfed.com
 
2012-02-15 12:32:02 PM
NeverDrunk23: danvon: NeverDrunk23: Lying assholes?

Fox News has done massive damage to the media and political landscape.


They actually went to court with the defense that they had no obligation to tell the truth. Sadder part is that defense prevailed.

I don't think that was Fox News, but a local Fox affliate.


You are correct. I don't know if that makes it much better though. Affiliate does have a relationship with the parent organization. I suppose that can be debated.
 
2012-02-15 12:34:38 PM
"I lost a lot of friends in 9/11..."

Oh, yeah? Name them, you lying, phony ass-clown. And even if that were true, it doesn't make Iraq any more culpable. Classic example of Fox's journalistic integrity, right there.
 
2012-02-15 12:35:19 PM
DROxINxTHExWIND: apeiron242: Saddam had to go either way. Don't conflate bad PR decisions with taking him out before the sanctions allowed him to resume WMD research, rebuilding his military, attacking the Kurds and invading his neighbors. While we're at it, it's been long enough since the 2000 "Election" that the left should be able to stop thinking "anything W is always evil". Can we grow up and get past that yet? i know it sucked to have the Supreme Court coronate him, but let's move on.

Mutherfarker, please. What you won't do is re-write history to suggest that "heeey, Saddam WAS a threat, but Bush just lied to have him taken out." We are a part of the United Nations for a reason. The sanctions were, per the inspectors, apparently successful in stopping Saddam's regime from creating nukes. Oh, and after spending many Billions of dollars and many thousands of lives, we were assured that Saddam had no WMDs. The war in Iraq was drummed up by neo-cons to maintain an excuse for our outrageous military budget. It had shiat to do with our safety.


What is worse is that by italicizing "move on" in his post, he is not so subtely equating in scale and severity the Clinton Blow Job with the Iraq war. "We were told to "move on" from Clinton's travesties... time for you libby-libs to move on from Bush's".
 
2012-02-15 12:35:49 PM
Besides, 9/11 was an inside job.

/lulz
 
2012-02-15 12:37:02 PM
*Looks at calender*

No, it isn't 2003 anymore.
 
2012-02-15 12:37:09 PM
I blame a US Federal Grand Jury for creating this rumor.
 
2012-02-15 12:39:26 PM
Well just for fun let's also say that in addition to causing 9/11 Saddam also causes cervical cancer from beyond the grave. One is just as plausible as the other.
 
2012-02-15 12:41:14 PM
bkisfancy: We need to create a Fox News drinking game.

Hey, I've done enough damage to my liver without external help. That's just a recipe for alcohol poisoning.
 
2012-02-15 12:41:58 PM
The whitewashing and revisionism that has occurred to cleanse the past decade has been amazing. I would assume that, in 50 years, the entire period will just be one long gray area without any real recollection of what happened.

Iraq probably may or may not have had WMDs. Honest, we don't really know, but it totally could have had nuclear missiles.
Iraq had meetings with AlQ and bin Laden. There totally could've been a 9/11 connection. We don't know for sure.

Hell, Obama is already to blame for bailouts and TARP that occurred in late-2008. It's probably just easier to assume the Bush Presidency never happened.

Nobody really knows what happened. Clinton got a blowjob, then the economy started to decline. We got bombed, there was a huge hurricane, then the economy cratered when Obama was elected. There. I just explained 2000-2009.
 
2012-02-15 12:43:20 PM
Gergesa: Well just for fun let's also say that in addition to causing 9/11 Saddam also causes cervical cancer from beyond the grave. One is just as plausible as the other.

Don't you see? That shiat don't matter. You're judging this shiat the wrong way. I mean, it could be that he stopped the bullets, or he changed Coke to Pepsi, he found my farking car keys. You don't judge shiat like this based on merit.
 
2012-02-15 12:55:42 PM
soy_bomb: I blame a US Federal Grand Jury for creating this rumor.

Did they indict a ham sandwich while they were at it?
 
2012-02-15 12:57:29 PM
Philip Francis Queeg: How many other countries must we invade to prevent them from possibly doing bad stuff in the future?

ALL OF THEM!
 
2012-02-15 12:59:17 PM
JerseyTim: His inference that Saddam had anything to do with 9/11 is laughable.

His defense of that opinion by invoking the loss of lives of friends on that day is despicable.

What a disgusting man.


It's almost like a mass form of PTSD.
 
2012-02-15 01:01:59 PM
bulldg4life: Hell, Obama is already to blame for bailouts and TARP that occurred in late-2008. It's probably just easier to assume the Bush Presidency never happened.

So true, Obama didn't even vote for or even support TARP when he was in the Senate in 2008.
 
2012-02-15 01:02:39 PM
Philip Francis Queeg: Did they indict a ham sandwich while they were at it?

That wouldn't have been kosher.
 
2012-02-15 01:04:50 PM
Actually, it could be argued that Saddam caused 9/11, although certainly not directly. Bin Laden and his boys were buthurt because (among other things) infidels were in the Holy Land, Saudi Arabia. The only reason they were there is because they were invited by Saddam to participate in the Persian Gulf Invitational Weapons Fair and Live-Fire Exercise® in 1990-91.

Had Hussein not invaded Kuwait, US Troops would have never been based in Saudi Arabia, and it is likely the WTC would still be standing, and Saddam and his boys would be still be happily sodomizing 12 year old girls in front of their parents.
 
2012-02-15 01:11:41 PM
THIS IS WHAT REPUBLICANS ACTUALLY BELIEVE!


/notice I used the word "republican," not "conservative," on purpose. You may call yourselves independent or conservative, but you are neither.
 
2012-02-15 01:11:51 PM
Ha, she destroyed that idiot. And there needs to be a Godwin equivalent to the "I knew people who died on 9/11" comment be used to support your argument. Or should we just call it Bolling's Law?
 
2012-02-15 01:15:38 PM
NeverDrunk23: James F. Campbell: hubiestubert: As God as my witness, I thought that journalists had standards...

The people on Fox News are not journalists. They are entertainers. Call them what they are.

Lying assholes?

Fox News has done massive damage to the media and political landscape.


If there weren't a market for it, they wouldn't stay on the air. The root of your problem isn't Fox News, it's ignorant-American farktards.
 
2012-02-15 01:19:15 PM
hubiestubert: Oh come one Smitty, there isn't anyone that is really that frickin' pretard...ed...oh spit, there is...

I thought that journalists had standards...


You have a flawed assumption in here. Can you identify it?
 
2012-02-15 01:22:24 PM
I don't get it. How did Saddam Hussein plant thermite explosives for the controlled implosion of the World Trade Center, and how did he manage to paint a missile to look like a crude imitation of a American Airlines jet?

/runs away
 
2012-02-15 01:27:16 PM
That's true. I remember it. Iraq attacked Disney World Florida with Weapons of Mass Destruction. That's why it's not there anymore. Now, people from the East Coast have to go all the way to California to see Mickey Mouse.
 
2012-02-15 01:31:49 PM
Wow, Bolling is a world class shiat head. He's spouting a ridiculous, delusional, long disproven lie and defending it with the "shut up, I lost friends in 9/11" non-argument. Get farked, Bolling.


thurstonxhowell
Wake up sheeple! You've got it all mixed up: Osama was born in a secret CIA facility in Honolulu, Saddam kept his WMDs in Kenya, and Obama did 9/11

CSB: I'm so sad that a FB "friend" recently used "WAKE UP SHEEPLE!" in a non-ironic, non-sarcastic, completely seriously way. I'd only ever seen the phrase here on Fark as a joke.
/she was linking to an Alex Jones video that she took seriously
//need more palms to face
 
2012-02-15 01:34:43 PM
How about a truce. Fox Noise stops telling lies about Media Matters and Media Matters stops telling the truth about Fox Noise.
 
2012-02-15 01:39:28 PM
cman: Oh for farks sake

Lets make this crystal clear:

Iraq had absolutely no ties to the 9/11 hijackers.

Christ, you idiots are almost as bad as birthers


The problem is that some decent people now believe this because FOX "news" went out of their way to convince as many people as possible that it was true.

Lot's of naive people still think a channel with "news" in it's name would try to be accurate. We call those people fools.
 
2012-02-15 01:46:04 PM
Bolling: Could we then assume that Obama is treasonous?
Powers: I don't resort to name calling.

Here's the thing. Calling someone out for treason isn't just "name calling." It's a serious accusation. At what point can these right wing liars be sued for slander? Between calling Obama a muslim sympathizer, calling him a foreign born usurper, and directly accusing him of purposely tanking the American economy, when can Obama start slander civil litigation against the Bolling's, Beck's, Hannity's, and Limbaugh's of the world?
 
2012-02-15 01:57:41 PM
Lee Jackson Beauregard: How about a truce. Fox Noise stops telling lies about Media Matters and Media Matters stops telling the truth about Fox Noise.

Yeah, how dare Media Matters post videos of what Fox News anchors actually say. Their information is only meant to be received by the farktards who are ignorant enough to believe it (those who watch Fox News). MM is being totally communist by sharing it with the rest of society.
 
2012-02-15 01:59:43 PM
YouAreItNoTagBacks: Lee Jackson Beauregard: How about a truce. Fox Noise stops telling lies about Media Matters and Media Matters stops telling the truth about Fox Noise.

Yeah, how dare Media Matters post videos of what Fox News anchors actually say. Their information is only meant to be received by the farktards who are ignorant enough to believe it (those who watch Fox News). MM is being totally communist by sharing it with the rest of society.


/Fox News totally lost friends in Pearl Harbor...did Media Matters lose friends in Pearl Harbor? Farking traitors.
 
2012-02-15 01:59:52 PM
wantedbadass: Between calling Obama a muslim sympathizer, calling him a foreign born usurper, and directly accusing him of purposely tanking the American economy, when can Obama start slander civil litigation against the Bolling's, Beck's, Hannity's, and Limbaugh's of the world?

There's an unspoken rule of defamation that the more famous you are, the less likely you are to succeed in a defamation suit because of the First Amendment. A famous case called New York Times Co. v. Sullivan stands for the rule that if you are a "public figure," you have to prove not only that someone said something factually untrue and derogatory about you, but also that that person specifically knew (or was reckless) that what he was saying was untrue when he said it. The practical consequence is that if the court considers you to be a public figure, you're not going to win.

There have been cases about how famous or public you have to be to be a public figure, and whether you're a public figure for a particular topic or a public figure generally. If you're the alleged victim of a rape and your name has appeared only in a small town paper, and someone publishes a blog saying (falsely) that you are a prostitute and have AIDS, you're probably not a "public figure."

On the other hand, if you're the President of the United States, you're essentially "libel proof," because permitting the President of the United States to file defamation suits would chill the exercise of free speech in an arena where free speech is most important.
 
2012-02-15 02:04:53 PM
theknuckler_33: What is worse is that by italicizing "move on" in his post, he is not so subtely equating in scale and severity the Clinton Blow Job with the Iraq war. "We were told to "move on" from Clinton's travesties... time for you libby-libs to move on from Bush's".

Well, if you accept the logic of the current Republican outrage-du-jour, millions of young American babies died on that blue dress. In comparison, Iraq only killed a few thousand US soliders.
 
2012-02-15 02:12:25 PM
YouAreItNoTagBacks: Aside from the idiocy of linking Sadaam to 9/11, the thing that really pisses me off/makes me want to smack Bolling upside the head is the "I had friend who died so I am the ultimate authority and you are being insensitive by stating facts."

It's like the "I had a view of Logan Airport" defense.
 
2012-02-15 02:56:30 PM
Saddam caused 9/11 (mediamatters.org)

This actually makes sense.

Also, I see 5 lights and 2+2 definitely =5
 
2012-02-15 02:59:30 PM
whidbey: Saddam caused 9/11 (mediamatters.org)

This actually makes sense.

Also, I see 5 lights and 2+2 definitely =5


In other news, War is Peace and Freedom is Slavery. We have always been at war with Eastasia.
 
2012-02-15 03:00:25 PM
Keep on farking that chicken, conservatives.

/where are all those folks who voted for Bush twice, again?
 
2012-02-15 03:02:37 PM
If all you do is watch FoxNews and read the WSJ this might be news to you.
 
2012-02-15 03:03:04 PM
Knara: Keep on farking that chicken, conservatives.

/where are all those folks who voted for Bush twice, again?


They're too busy crying about Obama's "extrajudicial 'murders'" to be counted. Try again later.
 
2012-02-15 03:09:34 PM
This argument is very similar to the rights' "honor those who are fighting for our freedom!" bullshiat.



Please tell me what freedoms we were in danger of losing unless we infiltrated Iraq and Afghanistan?
 
2012-02-15 03:15:40 PM
Alphakronik: Please tell me what freedoms we were in danger of losing unless we infiltrated Iraq and Afghanistan?

The freedom of American corporations to rape billions of dollars out of the American people through profiting via a pointless war.
 
2012-02-15 03:19:29 PM
Vodka Zombie: I feel sorry for Fox News viewers.

The world has got to be a terrifying place for them.


Yes, what with all those robots...
 
2012-02-15 03:22:23 PM
wantedbadass: Bolling: Could we then assume that Obama is treasonous?
Powers: I don't resort to name calling.

Here's the thing. Calling someone out for treason isn't just "name calling." It's a serious accusation. At what point can these right wing liars be sued for slander? Between calling Obama a muslim sympathizer, calling him a foreign born usurper, and directly accusing him of purposely tanking the American economy, when can Obama start slander civil litigation against the Bolling's, Beck's, Hannity's, and Limbaugh's of the world?


Why is being a Muslim Sympathizer a bad thing to begin with (I do see your point as they try to use it as a pejorative when it shouldn't be)? That's like saying I'm a Christian, Jewish or Buddhist sympathizer.

I really hate how there are people like him out there.
 
2012-02-15 03:39:22 PM
Alphakronik: This argument is very similar to the rights' "honor those who are fighting for our freedom!" bullshiat.



Please tell me what freedoms we were in danger of losing unless we infiltrated Iraq and Afghanistan?


We were in danger of losing the freedom to justify a war with Iraq for no valid reason. Thank God the Bush the Mighty saw this freedom being threatened and moved to invade Iraq before we lost it. He even sacrificed his status as a "Uniter" for us...

Besides that, no freedoms were threatened.
 
2012-02-15 03:44:00 PM
apeiron242: Saddam had to go either way. Don't conflate bad PR decisions with taking him out before the sanctions allowed him to resume WMD research, rebuilding his military, attacking the Kurds and invading his neighbors. While we're at it, it's been long enough since the 2000 "Election" that the left should be able to stop thinking "anything W is always evil". Can we grow up and get past that yet? i know it sucked to have the Supreme Court coronate him, but let's move on.

Resume WHAT "WMD research"?
 
2012-02-15 03:53:43 PM
James F. Campbell: Alphakronik: Please tell me what freedoms we were in danger of losing unless we infiltrated Iraq and Afghanistan?

The freedom of American corporations to rape billions of dollars out of the American people through profiting via a pointless war.


While I do think it had more to do with Bush's honest belief that Saddam = evil and he was a superhero, this is the third or so thread where we've actually agreed.

Am I the only one thinking this is awesome? :p
 
2012-02-15 04:30:38 PM
Jake Havechek: To: SeekAndFind
The opinion that Osama and Saddam would never play together was totally DUMB.

Saddam was the producer of WMD and Osama would be the delivery boy was the reality.

Bush did the absolute right thing.

And if Bubba had done the right thing after the '93 hit on the NYC Tower, maybe 9-11 would have never happened.
7 posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:30:05 AM by Sacajaweau
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The funny thing?

How many folks got up in arms when Clinton started sending cruise missile love into the camps of said terrorists? How many decried his order to kill Bin Ladin on sight?

Memories are tricky things...
 
2012-02-15 04:53:57 PM
hubiestubert: Jake Havechek: To: SeekAndFind
The opinion that Osama and Saddam would never play together was totally DUMB.

Saddam was the producer of WMD and Osama would be the delivery boy was the reality.

Bush did the absolute right thing.

And if Bubba had done the right thing after the '93 hit on the NYC Tower, maybe 9-11 would have never happened.
7 posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:30:05 AM by Sacajaweau
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The funny thing?

How many folks got up in arms when Clinton started sending cruise missile love into the camps of said terrorists? How many decried his order to kill Bin Ladin on sight?

Memories are tricky things...


There you go again, clouding the issues with the facts.
 
2012-02-15 05:03:28 PM
Hey, if 50 million Repub voters really want to be fed BS so they feel good about mooing their way to the Republican primaries, then News Corp will be there to deliver.
 
2012-02-15 06:59:51 PM
There was a study which recently proved FOX viewers know less about the world than people who don't watch news.
 
2012-02-15 07:02:45 PM
DarnoKonrad: Anybody notice how the right wing media has been going after Media Matters this week? Daily Caller and Breitbart have been incestuously reporting on each other's blurbs and touring the blog circuit pretty heavily -- like it was to be the next ACORN.

WHO TOLD YO^^^^^^NO CARRIER
 
2012-02-15 08:35:46 PM
The important things is Bush kept us safe; we didn't have any terror attacks on his watch (apart from 9/11).
 
2012-02-15 08:45:16 PM
thomps: did he say that mahmoud ahmadinejad was directly responsible for 9/11? the mahmoud ahmadinejad that didn't become president of iran until 2005?

That Iranian Shias were working with Baath Party Sunnis?
 
2012-02-15 08:55:40 PM
Sgt Otter: thomps: did he say that mahmoud ahmadinejad was directly responsible for 9/11? the mahmoud ahmadinejad that didn't become president of iran until 2005?

That Iranian Shias were working with Baath Party Sunnis?


the iran/iraq war of the 80s was just a smoke-screen to take our eyes off of the terrorist threat. you don't have to have had friends die in 9/11 to realize that. but apparently it helps.
 
2012-02-15 09:02:09 PM
thomps: Sgt Otter: thomps: did he say that mahmoud ahmadinejad was directly responsible for 9/11? the mahmoud ahmadinejad that didn't become president of iran until 2005?

That Iranian Shias were working with Baath Party Sunnis?

the iran/iraq war of the 80s was just a smoke-screen to take our eyes off of the terrorist threat. you don't have to have had friends die in 9/11 to realize that. but apparently it helps.


As someone who's spent a lot of time recently studying the Iranian Revolution and the Iran/Iraq War, someone should farking push Bolling down a flight of stairs. You don't let farking coonts lie in public like that.
 
2012-02-15 09:06:27 PM
Tripp Johnston Private Eye: thomps: Sgt Otter: thomps: did he say that mahmoud ahmadinejad was directly responsible for 9/11? the mahmoud ahmadinejad that didn't become president of iran until 2005?

That Iranian Shias were working with Baath Party Sunnis?

the iran/iraq war of the 80s was just a smoke-screen to take our eyes off of the terrorist threat. you don't have to have had friends die in 9/11 to realize that. but apparently it helps.

As someone who's spent a lot of time recently studying the Iranian Revolution and the Iran/Iraq War, someone should farking push Bolling down a flight of stairs. You don't let farking coonts lie in public like that.


i just thought it was an interesting update to the republican 9/11 mythology that now iran was involved. it's almost like they have an agenda to advance...
 
2012-02-15 11:55:23 PM
This is dumb - everyone knows IRAN was behind 9/11. In fact, they are stockpiling WMD as we speak. After all, the absence of evidence doesn't mean an absence of evidence.

If we don't attack IRAN now, our smoking gun will be a mushroom cloud above Manhattan. Or somewhere.
 
2012-02-16 12:57:52 AM
Diogenes: Dusk-You-n-Me: Transcript and more detail. Link (new window)

Ad hominem
Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
Appeal to emotion
Appeal to pity

Did I miss any other of the fallacies he used?


Is being a first class douchebag a fallacy?
 
2012-02-16 01:18:52 AM
PsiChick: Am I the only one thinking this is awesome? :p

Yes.
 
2012-02-16 03:20:34 AM
[immediately throws 10(100) shoes at Bolling]
 
2012-02-16 03:22:25 AM
Now now dammit, those parentheses don't belong there!

[throws an infinitude of parentheses at Bolling to follow the shoes]
 
2012-02-16 09:32:20 AM
Kittypie070: [immediately throws 10(100) shoes at Bolling]

You are Imelda Marcos' hero.
 
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