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2012-02-15 09:56:29 AM  
This just in: "hacking" can also be called "seeing".
 
2012-02-15 10:02:09 AM  
What a hacker might look like

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2012-02-15 11:17:48 AM  

Mugato: What a hacker might look like

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I'd hack 'er.

/Hey baby, wanna see my Gibson?
 
2012-02-15 11:21:44 AM  
Bray recommends Android users invest in a countermeasure previously unknown to them: soap. "Washing your hands with soap and water will cut down on the amount of grease and oils on your fingers. Android users who are serious about security may want to consider using the process known as 'showering,' possibly with a substance called 'shampoo'."
 
2012-02-15 11:25:43 AM  

Mugato: What a hacker might look like

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2012-02-15 11:26:46 AM  
Finally, hackers are able to tell us when (and how) the British are coming.
 
2012-02-15 11:31:05 AM  
Typical media devaluing the word.

I hacked Bob's Facebook.

No Bob was an idiot and didn't log out.
 
2012-02-15 11:33:48 AM  
Retarded story is retarded.

How many times does a person swype their screen to unlock it and then not touch their screen again before it is locked again? Pretty much around zero times.

This retarded non story is about as retarded as that retarded story about getting a persons PIN by using a thermal imager. Retarded.

Oh, and thank god for those included photo credits. I think they should have included them a few more times because those were such amazing shots.
 
2012-02-15 11:36:50 AM  
What a Revere smudge might look like (new window)

/hotter than hot
 
2012-02-15 11:37:21 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-02-15 11:37:40 AM  
What a Revere may look like:

thefilmstage.com
 
2012-02-15 11:41:01 AM  

HawkEyes: What a Revere smudge might look like


You win. You even got the "smudge" part.
 
2012-02-15 11:57:49 AM  
Back up just a bit... has anyone mentioned that "Reverse" is spelled wrong in the headline?
 
2012-02-15 11:58:53 AM  
Working as an EMT in NJ, there's a local hospital with a 10-digit keypad, each button a rubber nub and they keep their ER locked with a two digit code. It isn't hard to just look at the pad and see which two buttons are worn.
 
2012-02-15 12:00:03 PM  
One if by lan, two if by see.
 
2012-02-15 12:11:43 PM  
Someone warn Android that they're not gonna take our arms and we're gonna be free.
 
2012-02-15 12:16:53 PM  
Reveah REPRESENT! Go Guido Go!

/Hot like my Firebird!

slice.seriouseats.com
 
2012-02-15 12:18:49 PM  
anyone know of a scramblepad or something like a hirsch code number pad for iphone/android?

each time you need to enter your code, the numbers are in different locations. then again, i could see a lot of accidents from people trying to enter their numbers while driving.
 
2012-02-15 12:19:20 PM  

Lsherm: This just in: "hacking" can also be called "seeing".


It's a hack: an elegant solution.

If a draft is slamming a door shut utilizing* a book as a door stop is a hack.

* Oo, look, a correct use of the word utilize!
 
2012-02-15 12:25:03 PM  

Treygreen13: Finally, hackers are able to tell us when (and how) the British are coming.


And they'll be shouting and ringing those bells....
 
2012-02-15 12:56:44 PM  

Treygreen13: Finally, hackers are able to tell us when (and how) the British are coming.


It'll be one british if by sea to take our guns or two lamps to british our androids?
 
2012-02-15 12:58:09 PM  
haha stupid android users... I have an iphone so I'm safe!
 
2012-02-15 12:59:19 PM  

JohnBigBootay: Treygreen13: Finally, hackers are able to tell us when (and how) the British are coming.

And they'll be shouting and ringing those bells....


thedirtylowdown.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-02-15 01:00:29 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: JohnBigBootay: Treygreen13: Finally, hackers are able to tell us when (and how) the British are coming.

And they'll be shouting and ringing those bells....

[thedirtylowdown.files.wordpress.com image 600x400]


I think that's what I said...
 
2012-02-15 01:01:40 PM  
This is also easily remedied by getting a good screen application like a Zagg Invisible Skin. First thing I did was to switch to the numerical login for this exact problem. Second by getting the screen cover that doesn't smudge I don't have the fingerprint/smudge problem. Plus who goes around with a screen that's not protected from scratches aside from those who have Gorilla Glass?
 
2012-02-15 01:05:55 PM  
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Hasn't this been around since the pattern unlock feature was introduced with the Nexus One? Can we expect a story about how you can use a photograph to fool the face unlock feature in a few years?
 
2012-02-15 01:07:16 PM  

pockypimp: This is also easily remedied by getting a good screen application like a Zagg Invisible Skin. First thing I did was to switch to the numerical login for this exact problem. Second by getting the screen cover that doesn't smudge I don't have the fingerprint/smudge problem. Plus who goes around with a screen that's not protected from scratches aside from those who have Gorilla Glass?


Me, because the first thing I did with my Desire when I got it was put a decent sized gash in the screen. I figured there was no longer a point. A year later, still no scratches.

/anal about not putting phone and keys/change/pocket knife in the same pocket
 
2012-02-15 01:30:36 PM  

pockypimp: This is also easily remedied by getting a good screen application like a Zagg Invisible Skin. First thing I did was to switch to the numerical login for this exact problem. Second by getting the screen cover that doesn't smudge I don't have the fingerprint/smudge problem. Plus who goes around with a screen that's not protected from scratches aside from those who have Gorilla Glass?


The vast majority of Android phones these days have Gorilla Glass or something similar. (new window) Just about all the key models from Moto, Samsung, HTC, and LG use it, aside from their budget models like Optimus series, so there's really no reason to have a screen protector these days.
 
2012-02-15 02:02:33 PM  
Bazinga In My Pants: How many times does a person swype their screen to unlock it and then not touch their screen again before it is locked again? Pretty much around zero times.

Actually,

Most of a person's normal use is just touches, a touch here, a touch there. Maybe a swipe or two. Not enough to completely wipe out their unlock swipe.

/especially those people who unlock their phones just to look/reply to a text message or e-mail then put the phone back down. Their use case is basically tapping on the keyboard, which definitely doesn't erase the swipe.
 
2012-02-15 02:07:12 PM  
Huh... I never thought of my occasional "wipe phone on pants" maneuver as "security" in any sense...
 
2012-02-15 02:46:34 PM  

lordargent: Bazinga In My Pants: How many times does a person swype their screen to unlock it and then not touch their screen again before it is locked again? Pretty much around zero times.

Actually,

Most of a person's normal use is just touches, a touch here, a touch there. Maybe a swipe or two. Not enough to completely wipe out their unlock swipe.

/especially those people who unlock their phones just to look/reply to a text message or e-mail then put the phone back down. Their use case is basically tapping on the keyboard, which definitely doesn't erase the swipe.


You've clearly never seen people playing Fruit Ninja and the like.

Or Swype.

Or any of the multitude of programs that require swiping.
 
2012-02-15 02:49:32 PM  

treesloth: Huh... I never thought of my occasional "wipe phone on pants" maneuver as "security" in any sense...


I like to use my shirt, softer material..
 
2012-02-15 03:03:09 PM  
RIP =smidge=
 
2012-02-15 03:23:23 PM  

Lsherm: This just in: "hacking" can also be called "seeing".


Actually, in a nutshell, pretty much. Very little about hacking has to deal with buffer overflows and XSS attacks and all those other fun-sounding technical terms. At least 99% of hacking is nothing more than knowing what to look for.
 
2012-02-15 03:30:43 PM  
I have this great security feature known as my pocket. It keeps anyone else from farking with my phone.
 
2012-02-15 03:43:46 PM  
How many people consider the lock feature on their phone to be anything other than a way to keep casual people out of the phone? If you've got enough information on your phone where you live in fear of it being hacked and your entire identity stolen or whatever, then you've got too much stuff on it.
 
2012-02-15 04:09:26 PM  

dripping with sarcasm: One if by lan, two if by see.


Bravo!
 
2012-02-15 04:17:13 PM  

BizarreMan: How many people consider the lock feature on their phone to be anything other than a way to keep casual people out of the phone? If you've got enough information on your phone where you live in fear of it being hacked and your entire identity stolen or whatever, then you've got too much stuff on it.


I have my phone locked, because I have to leave it outside of work in a public area (or in the car in a Tucson summer). The only reason I have a lock is I don't want some random person looking through my phone. I guess if you were clever and had time you could maybe reset some passwords with access to my email, though my banking and stock apps require a personal question to be answered before you can do that.

If you guess my unlock code - you sneaky hacker. You've gotten access to the full Angry Birds without paying that steep $0.99. Enjoy the video of my son dancing to Glee. Don't read the free ebooks, they aren't worth it unless you're broke in an airport.
 
2012-02-15 04:23:55 PM  
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2012-02-15 04:47:36 PM  
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R.I.P. Paul Revere
 
2012-02-15 04:54:36 PM  

AwesomeSquared: If you guess my unlock code - you sneaky hacker. You've gotten access to the full Angry Birds without paying that steep $0.99.


Thing is, if you have games like angry birds on your phone -- games that require you to smudge your finger around the screen a lot -- you'd hide your unlock code in a mass of smudges.

/also, if you just wipe the screen once in a while....
 
zez
2012-02-15 05:00:19 PM  
Since I'm a stay at home dad with a 3 and 7 year old with no land line, why would I want to make my phone HARDER to get into by using a code or lock? I want them to be able to call 911 in case I'm passed out on the couch during if there is a fire.
 
2012-02-15 05:05:47 PM  

zez: Since I'm a stay at home dad with a 3 and 7 year old with no land line, why would I want to make my phone HARDER to get into by using a code or lock? I want them to be able to call 911 in case I'm passed out on the couch during if there is a fire.


Locked phones still have access to the emergency dialer which can, as the name suggests, only dial 911.
 
zez
2012-02-15 05:13:41 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: zez: Since I'm a stay at home dad with a 3 and 7 year old with no land line, why would I want to make my phone HARDER to get into by using a code or lock? I want them to be able to call 911 in case I'm passed out on the couch during if there is a fire.

Locked phones still have access to the emergency dialer which can, as the name suggests, only dial 911.


I did not know that so I tried it out. I saw the pattern thing with the emergency call button under it. If that button was pressed does it automatically dial 911? I don't want to make it TOO easy.
 
2012-02-15 05:21:42 PM  
No, it just goes to a plain dialer screen (one absent the "contacts", "call log", and "faves" tabs). You can type in whatever you want, but when you hit send it will biatch at you that the number isn't an emergency number unless it is '911'. I.e., if you enter 123-456-7890 and hit send it will complain; enter 911 and hit send and it will dial 911.
 
2012-02-15 05:24:55 PM  
I think the reason they do this is because of the FCC. FCC requirements state that ALL cell phones, regardless of status of service (or even the lack of service) must be able to dial 911. Whether you have a telephone number or not, whether you have signed up for service or not, your cell phone can connect to 911. So if you have an old cell phone that you're no longer using and can't make any calls (since it is no longer registered with a service provider) it can still be used to dial 911.

I keep my old (old old old) cell in my car's glove compartment (and, yes, regularly check it for charge) just for this sort of emergency purpose (in case something awful happens and I also don't have my phone... you know, that day EVERYTHING goes wrong).
 
2012-02-15 06:43:36 PM  
good luck mr. casual hacker, I have one swipe unlocker for the phone and one for the dialer and messages.

they overlap on several points.

Oh and I use the "wipe on pants" security feature as well at times.
 
2012-02-15 06:51:23 PM  
img221.imageshack.us

/maybe it's her measurements?
 
2012-02-15 09:26:55 PM  

Mugato: What a hacker might look like

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I'd like to penetrate her system. I can't believe that Johnny Lee was bigger than her at one point.
 
2012-02-15 11:21:23 PM  
SleepingEye: You've clearly never seen people playing Fruit Ninja and the like.

What do you think people do more, unlock their phones to play fruit ninja (which then destroys the unlock smudge).

Or unlock their phone to read/send a text message (typing would not destroy the unlock smudge).

Hell _I_ play fruit ninja on my phone, maybe once every few days or so (if I'm waiting for something). But I check messages, missed calls and e-mail on my phone several times each day.
 
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