WTF is up with CBS? We already have three US versions of Sherlock Holmes

House on Fox
Psych on USA
Mentalist on CBS

And two of the three I mentioned are pretty good (I haven't seen Mentalist). I can't wait to watch this crash and burn, while CBS execs wonder what they did wrong? And even if they do it right, they'll be quick to ruin it with 24 episode seasons. It is antagonistic that there are only 6 episodes of BBC 1's Sherlock, but at least each one is a whole movie (90 minutes), with a great story arc tying them together.

Side note: The guy they hired to play Holmes:



used to be married to:



Back on topic, the best Sherlock is:

Sorry CBS, I already have my Sherlock.

the CBS drama pilot Elementary, which has Holmes solving crimes in New York City.

Wow, CBS, you just really, really don't get it do you?

AdolfOliverPanties: Back on topic, the best Sherlock is:

That's not the late Jeremy Brett.

The English Major: AdolfOliverPanties: Back on topic, the best Sherlock is:

That's not the late Jeremy Brett.

Interesting. I've seen Rathbone (prefer Cumberbatch,) but have never seen Brett. I suppose it could be a product of its age as well. I found Rathbone, while classic, to be rather stiff, mostly because of the material. A bit stodgy.

What I like about the BBC is while it is based on Doyle's writings, it isn't a verbatim adaptation, and has been updated to today's London society, while remaining faithful to the spirit of the material.

gopher321: Wow, CBS, you just really, really don't get it do you?

One of the studios wanted to 'reboot' Miss Marple with a young actress (Jessica Biel I believe). Thankfully, the Agatha Christie family refused to license the name, saying that the character is more than a recognizable name. CBS just doesn't get it that Sherlock Holmes is more than a name.

AdolfOliverPanties: The English Major: AdolfOliverPanties: Back on topic, the best Sherlock is:

That's not the late Jeremy Brett.

Interesting. I've seen Rathbone (prefer Cumberbatch,) but have never seen Brett. I suppose it could be a product of its age as well. I found Rathbone, while classic, to be rather stiff, mostly because of the material. A bit stodgy.

What I like about the BBC is while it is based on Doyle's writings, it isn't a verbatim adaptation, and has been updated to today's London society, while remaining faithful to the spirit of the material.

You owe it to yourself to borrow some episodes from your library or rent some from a video store that might carry them. Then prepare space on your dvd shelf for all the series. I like the Rathbone stuff (prefer the first 2 or 3 that take place in Victorian london) but Brett by far is an incredible study in the character of Holmes. And Cumberpatch (and Freeman) are doing a (pardon my English) bang up job of their own.

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Gig103: We already have three US versions of Sherlock Holmes

Plus Downey's Holmes is pretty damn good. Though really they shouldn't do any more without Moriarty, but oh well.

The English Major: AdolfOliverPanties: Back on topic, the best Sherlock is:

That's not the late Jeremy Brett.

Exactly

There was an article a while back about the BBC possibly suing CBS to stop this.

GO BBC LAWYERS, GO!

NuttierThanEver: The English Major: AdolfOliverPanties: Back on topic, the best Sherlock is:

That's not the late Jeremy Brett.

Exactly

teto85: And Cumberpatch (and Freeman) are doing a (pardon my English) bang up job of their own.

Don't get me wrong; I love the new BBC version too, and Cumberbatch & Freeman are wonderful, but the original Brett series really stays true to Doyle. I know PBS used to rerun the shows once or twice a week, but I haven't seen them for several months.

And Rathbone was awesome too

AdolfOliverPanties: Interesting. I've seen Rathbone (prefer Cumberbatch,) but have never seen Brett.

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FirstNationalBastard: There was an article a while back about the BBC possibly suing CBS to stop this.

Under what possible theory?

DamnYankees: FirstNationalBastard: There was an article a while back about the BBC possibly suing CBS to stop this.

Under what possible theory?

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GAT_00: Gig103: We already have three US versions of Sherlock Holmes

Plus Downey's Holmes is pretty damn good. Though really they shouldn't do any more without Moriarty, but oh well.

Downey's Holmes is sort of a different breed, but it is entertaining for sure. I thought the movie Moriarty was way better than the BBC1 Moriarty (actor/character, not their actions)

AdolfOliverPanties: Side note: The guy they hired to play Holmes:

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He also played the villain on season 5 of "Dexter" and he's in the new "Dark Shadows" movie too.

Moriarty was real.

teto85: You owe it to yourself to borrow some episodes from your library or rent some from a video store that might carry them. Then prepare space on your dvd shelf for all the series. I like the Rathbone stuff (prefer the first 2 or 3 that take place in Victorian london) but Brett by far is an incredible study in the character of Holmes. And Cumberpatch (and Freeman) are doing a (pardon my English) bang up job of their own.

There's a box set with all of the Brett that only needs ~5" of width on your shelf. But DVDs are so last-decade...

unlikely: Moriarty was real.

I believe in Sherlock.

Bathia_Mapes: AdolfOliverPanties: Side note: The guy they hired to play Holmes:

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He also played the villain on season 5 of "Dexter" and he's in the new "Dark Shadows" movie too.

He was a passable Dexter monster-Lithgow's Trinity Killer being a very difficult act to follow,natch-and he was memorable in Dracula 2000 and might even be just as memorable in "Dark Shadows". But as Holmes? I don't see it.

CBS approached Moffat et al about doing a US "Sherlock" remake and got told no, then promptly announced that they were doing their own modern day Holmes story, but oh, it's totally different, see, it's in Manhattan not London. In other words, they're trying to pull off doing a remake without having the rights to the BBC version.

I think I'll stick to Psych for my American Sherlock Holmes, thank you very much.

Automator: The Brett Sherlock series is on Netflix streaming (though the cover image for the series if from a way older version). I still like him the best, but I think the 'Batch has a shot to sit at his lunch table eventually. I wasn't too thrilled with the newest Moriarty though. Has he popped up in the second season? And is he any more palatable?

I'm not going to say anything more than that the haters all stopped hating this Moriarity after series 2.

AdolfOliverPanties: What I like about the BBC is while it is based on Doyle's writings, it isn't a verbatim adaptation, and has been updated to today's London society, while remaining faithful to the spirit of the material.

It's amusing/sad that they essentially didn't have to change a word of Watson's backstory, and it's still just as plausible and relevant today as it was 125 years ago.

I just finished the first season of Sherlock, and I have to say... Wow... Go ahead American networks, ruin another great British series. Apparently there's also going to be an American Wire in the Blood. Not as good as Sherlock, mind you, but better than most of the crap they air on this side of the pond.

rynthetyn: I'm not going to say anything more than that the haters all stopped hating this Moriarity after series 2.

I haven't. They play him as a toddler having a tantrum inside of an adult's body.

Bonanza Jellybean: Speaking of Sick Boy, I get Robert Carlyle would make a great holmes.

/he'd make a great anything
//hey, he played Hitler


Caryle's Moriarty would outshine JLM's Holmes merely by sneering.

Crudbucket: AdolfOliverPanties: What I like about the BBC is while it is based on Doyle's writings, it isn't a verbatim adaptation, and has been updated to today's London society, while remaining faithful to the spirit of the material.

It's amusing/sad that they essentially didn't have to change a word of Watson's backstory, and it's still just as plausible and relevant today as it was 125 years ago.

Interestingly, the Soviet adaptation of Holmes in the early '80s changed Watson's backstory to a nebulous war in Asia rather than Afghanistan, not to make it more relevant but because getting bogged down in Afghanistan was such a sore point at the time that they decided not to mention Afghanistan at all.

/know a Sikh guy who was living in Moscow during that era who decided to ditch the turban after nearly getting tossed off a bridge by angry Russians

Apos: Bathia_Mapes: AdolfOliverPanties: Side note: The guy they hired to play Holmes:

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used to be married to:

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Back on topic, the best Sherlock is:

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He also played the villain on season 5 of "Dexter" and he's in the new "Dark Shadows" movie too.

He was a passable Dexter monster-Lithgow's Trinity Killer being a very difficult act to follow,natch-and he was memorable in Dracula 2000 and might even be just as memorable in "Dark Shadows". But as Holmes? I don't see it.

Neither do I.

penthesilea: Sorry CBS, I already have my Sherlock.

Ditto.

penthesilea: Sorry CBS, I already have my Sherlock.

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That.

This CBS thing is going to suck so badly...

DemonEater: RandomExcess: I am looking forward to seeing the Sherlock character living in a modern city like NYC. The stories should be breath of fresh air for the traditional Holmes.

So watch the BBC version.

It's frigging AMAZING television.

Yep.

The CBS version is going to be a watered down version of the BBC show. In fact, I'd bet the CBS version will be just another police procedural, one that will make NCIS: LA look brilliant.

When will there be enough murder mysteries on tv? I like some of them but prime time is saturated with crime dramas taking place in NYC or LA.