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(ABC)   The DOJ just re-armed both sides in the Great Patent Troll War: Google gets Motorola, but the "Rockstar Consortium" of Apple, Microsoft, Sont Ericsson, etc. gets Nortel and Novell. Buckle your seat belts, this is gonna get ugly   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 38
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2012-02-14 10:14:59 AM
Isn't this how WWI got started. All those alliances
 
2012-02-14 10:15:42 AM
sont?
 
2012-02-14 10:17:55 AM
This will end in a series of settlements that means that companies will end up getting a taste of the profits of competing products. That is, Google will get a taste of the profits from iOS, and Apple will get a taste of the profits from Android. Hell, it's already reported that Microsoft is now making more from Android, from licensing fees from some damn patent or another, than it is from Windows Phone.

It'll be one big licensing daisy chain, and we'll be the only ones getting farked.
 
2012-02-14 10:18:12 AM
Google purchase of Motorola is less interesting when you realize that the company sold the bulk of their more interesting mobile patents years ago.

/but whatever
 
2012-02-14 10:18:31 AM

Broadcastdave: sont?


Sont is a sister company of Sorny, apparently.

/watching my Magnetbox TV
 
2012-02-14 10:20:32 AM
Sont, I am disappoint
 
2012-02-14 10:26:19 AM
Who gets Wordperfect?
 
2012-02-14 10:26:25 AM
Hold on, let me check the patent on my seat belt.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-02-14 10:27:43 AM
It'll be one big licensing daisy chain, and we'll be the only ones getting farked.

Companies and coalitions with such a dominant market position in an important market should be required to license on fair and nondiscriminatory terms. I don't care much if the NFL acts monopolistic and wrecks itself. I care if a major industry erects artificial barriers to entry.
 
2012-02-14 10:34:37 AM

ZAZ: Companies and coalitions with such a dominant market position in an important market should be required to license on fair and nondiscriminatory terms.


Define "fair".
 
2012-02-14 10:36:50 AM

1macgeek: ZAZ: Companies and coalitions with such a dominant market position in an important market should be required to license on fair and nondiscriminatory terms.

Define "fair".


It's a gathering of carnival rides, cotton candy stands, and deep fried things on a stick...but that's not important right now
 
2012-02-14 10:38:14 AM

EasyWind: It's a gathering of carnival rides, cotton candy stands, and deep fried things on a stick...but that's not important right now


Surely you can't be serious...
 
2012-02-14 10:42:57 AM

1macgeek: EasyWind: It's a gathering of carnival rides, cotton candy stands, and deep fried things on a stick...but that's not important right now

Surely you can't be serious...


I am serious and don't call me Shirley.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-02-14 10:44:53 AM
1macgeek

I don't have an exact definition, but see reasonable and non-discriminatory licensing on Wikipedia.

The important part is, injunctive relief is not available. Google can't prohibit imports of the iCod by claiming a patent on artificial fish. A court will determine license terms if the parties can't agree.
 
2012-02-14 10:46:02 AM
Qui sont?
 
2012-02-14 10:58:50 AM

jake_lex: This will end in a series of settlements that means that companies will end up getting a taste of the profits of competing products. That is, Google will get a taste of the profits from iOS, and Apple will get a taste of the profits from Android. Hell, it's already reported that Microsoft is now making more from Android, from licensing fees from some damn patent or another, than it is from Windows Phone.

It'll be one big licensing daisy chain, and we'll be the only ones getting farked.


No, that's exactly what Google will fight tooth and nail to prevent. Rememeber Google is an ADVERTISING company not a device maker, not the creators of an OS. The win when more people use Google to search for things, therefore what they want is CHEAP smartphones, ideally under $50. Settlements like the one between Samsung and MS that gives MS $10 everytime a samsung phone is sold (for doing exactly bupkiss for Samsung) are a serious hitch in that plan.
Google's goal in acquiring patents is to make Apple et. al back off Andriod makers for fear of being counter-sued using Motorola's huge patent portfolio


So yeah, basically like WWI in Europe, everyone thinks war is impossible because of the mutual assured destruction theory, but everyone also knows war is inevitable
 
2012-02-14 11:38:17 AM

1macgeek: ZAZ: Companies and coalitions with such a dominant market position in an important market should be required to license on fair and nondiscriminatory terms.

Define "fair".


well give how cheap cell phones and service is these days, you could argue that the market is pretty fair.
perfect? no.
barrier for others to enter? welllll, the really barrier is the spectrum, not the patents, so meh.


sont this is how them asians pro-nounce it.
(lol)
 
2012-02-14 11:38:29 AM
Hay guyz, did anybody notice Subby misspelled Sony?

/typing this while staring at a Sony Trinitron monitor
 
2012-02-14 12:36:27 PM
Their new names are going to be Googorola and ASMENN.
 
2012-02-14 12:52:52 PM
In unrelated news, my next fileserver will run Linux... without Novell.
 
2012-02-14 12:57:39 PM

StoneColdAtheist: Hay guyz, did anybody notice Subby misspelled Sony?

/typing this while staring at a Sony Trinitron monitor


WOW
how old is that??
 
2012-02-14 01:20:12 PM

namatad: StoneColdAtheist: Hay guyz, did anybody notice Subby misspelled Sony?
/typing this while staring at a Sony Trinitron monitor

WOW
how old is that??


LOL...the data tag on the back lists the date of manufacture as "January 1998".

csb...

Back in about 2004 I was chief of a section at Travis AFB (outside San Francisco) when the IT folks came through and replaced all our CRTs with flat-panel monitors. They refused to haul off the old ones, so we stored them in a closet. At the time there was no approved disposal/recycle system for CRT monitors in place in California and we were not allowed to throw them in the trash, so we sat on them for a while. Anyway, one day a memo comes down writing off the monitors and encouraging folks to take them home, so I gathered everyone in my section together and told them that each of us would have to take a monitor home. I told the most junior airman to take his pick and remove it to his car. These were great quality monitors, so he eagerly complied. I then went through my people in inverse order of rank, assuring them that I would take the two last remaining monitors, so they didn't biatch about the CO skipping on the pain. When it came my turn there was a little 13" POS left over and this great huge Trinitron, so I took them home and we got our closet back. It's now in my shop where I use it mainly to do CAD/CAM work. People who see it get a kick out of the "SECRET" sticker on the front. The thing must weigh 40 pounds, but it has great color and contrast, and farking heats the room to boot! ;^)

/csb
 
2012-02-14 01:43:10 PM
Google will be paying Microsoft $10 for every Android sold;-)
 
DVD
2012-02-14 02:14:25 PM

StoneColdAtheist: namatad: StoneColdAtheist: Hay guyz, did anybody notice Subby misspelled Sony?
/typing this while staring at a Sony Trinitron monitor

WOW
how old is that??

LOL...the data tag on the back lists the date of manufacture as "January 1998".

csb...

Back in about 2004 I was chief of a section at Travis AFB (outside San Francisco) when the IT folks came through and replaced all our CRTs with flat-panel monitors. They refused to haul off the old ones, so we stored them in a closet. At the time there was no approved disposal/recycle system for CRT monitors in place in California and we were not allowed to throw them in the trash, so we sat on them for a while. Anyway, one day a memo comes down writing off the monitors and encouraging folks to take them home, so I gathered everyone in my section together and told them that each of us would have to take a monitor home. I told the most junior airman to take his pick and remove it to his car. These were great quality monitors, so he eagerly complied. I then went through my people in inverse order of rank, assuring them that I would take the two last remaining monitors, so they didn't biatch about the CO skipping on the pain. When it came my turn there was a little 13" POS left over and this great huge Trinitron, so I took them home and we got our closet back. It's now in my shop where I use it mainly to do CAD/CAM work. People who see it get a kick out of the "SECRET" sticker on the front. The thing must weigh 40 pounds, but it has great color and contrast, and farking heats the room to boot! ;^)

/csb


How big is that Sony? I had a 22" for awhile, which while heavier than the moon, was nice for Civilization Call to Power and Master of Orion 2. I gave it to friends before I moved, though. I use barbells for weightlifting, not boxes. XD
 
2012-02-14 02:42:31 PM

DVD: How big is that Sony? I had a 22" for awhile, which while heavier than the moon, was nice for Civilization Call to Power and Master of Orion 2. I gave it to friends before I moved, though. I use barbells for weightlifting, not boxes. XD


My Sony has a 21" screen. Those old Trinitrons were the absolute pinnacle of CRT monitors; obviously superior in every way to any early flat-panel, but they do induce localized brown-out when they're powered up... ;)

I have no idea how many more years it will last, but I won't be surprised if I die before it does. I have a 27" JVC television that I still have on 1-3 hours every evening...and I bought it in 1984. The Trinitrons are even higher quality, and according to my insurance company I have an expected 21 more years of life ahead of me, so I literally expect it to last the remainder of my life.
 
2012-02-14 04:04:29 PM
These companies have the more legitimate tiffs over patents when they go to court.

They're gathering mounds of patents in order to protect themselves from the trolls of East Texas.

These large companies can come to terms of reciprocal patent licensing, and the companies that produce the most popular patented features will have the best profits because their balance of patent royalties will be in their favor.
 
2012-02-14 04:09:03 PM

booksmart: In unrelated news, my next fileserver will run Linux... without Novell.


What are you running now "with Novell"? Their OES suite?
 
2012-02-14 04:27:26 PM
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Provided that, in the end, the two piles of patent paperwork look like the above, everybody will license everybody else' patents and no money will change hands. However...

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...if the two piles of patent paperwork look more like this, the side with the smaller stack will be forced to pay the side with the larger stack a ton of money.

/seriously, this is more or less how they do this-both teams of lawyers slap all the patent paperwork on to the conference room table, and provided the two stacks of papers are the same size, they basically shake hands and walk away
 
2012-02-14 08:02:13 PM
the sont vista?
 
2012-02-14 08:42:53 PM

bravian: Google purchase of Motorola is less interesting when you realize that the company sold the bulk of their more interesting mobile patents years ago.

/but whatever


Google's purchase was the least artful sale Ive ever seen. Six months ago motorola spins off its mobile division into motorola mobility and changes its logo. Few weeks later google files to purchase
 
2012-02-14 08:49:22 PM
And here's where I femind everyone that IBM filed for a patent on patent trolling. No bullshiat.
 
2012-02-14 09:51:21 PM
And when the Patent Wars are finished, the only real loser will be consumers.
 
2012-02-14 10:13:39 PM

JonBuck: And when the Patent Wars are finished, the only real loser will be consumers.


I hope that at some point more sensible laws are drafted and we put an end to this nonsense. On the other hand I am described as hopelessly optimistic so... yeah we're so screwed.
 
2012-02-14 10:57:07 PM

StoneColdAtheist: DVD: How big is that Sony? I had a 22" for awhile, which while heavier than the moon, was nice for Civilization Call to Power and Master of Orion 2. I gave it to friends before I moved, though. I use barbells for weightlifting, not boxes. XD

My Sony has a 21" screen. Those old Trinitrons were the absolute pinnacle of CRT monitors; obviously superior in every way to any early flat-panel, but they do induce localized brown-out when they're powered up... ;)

I have no idea how many more years it will last, but I won't be surprised if I die before it does. I have a 27" JVC television that I still have on 1-3 hours every evening...and I bought it in 1984. The Trinitrons are even higher quality, and according to my insurance company I have an expected 21 more years of life ahead of me, so I literally expect it to last the remainder of my life.


Don't forget having to wear a lead vest when degaussing...
/I don't know what brand it was but I swear to god my friend had a monster on the scale of what you speak of that would degauss itself, every monitor in a 5 foot radius, and and make your heart skip a beat.
//csb
 
2012-02-15 03:20:50 AM
FIX PATENT LAW

/And hurry up and approve my two patents
 
2012-02-15 06:57:48 AM
I don't want a phone with a brand name of Google on it. Sounds like the name of a toy, not a serious phone.
 
2012-02-15 09:58:59 AM

ZAZ: I don't have an exact definition


In my experiences, I have found the people most likely to use the word fair are the least able to define it. So would you like another go at it?
 
2012-02-15 05:35:26 PM

StoneColdAtheist: I have no idea how many more years it will last, but I won't be surprised if I die before it does. I have a 27" JVC television that I still have on 1-3 hours every evening...and I bought it in 1984. The Trinitrons are even higher quality, and according to my insurance company I have an expected 21 more years of life ahead of me, so I literally expect it to last the remainder of my life.


The old Radius ones were rated three years @ 8 hours a day. As ours were on for 24 hours a day they lasted one year so the math worked out. They eventually start getting a bluish tint as the guns burn out.

/used to replace the tubes
//you knew the gray scale was right when you and a coworker couldn't agree and started arguing
 
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