Stephania Meyer, 40, and her husband Michael Oshust, 43 met online on Ashley Madison, a dating website for the married and attached. Meyer was married and Oshust was still married but getting a divorce. The couple married Feb. 15, 2007.

He looks like a psychopath.

I remain surprised that nobody has murdered Noel Biderman yet.

GavinTheAlmighty: I remain surprised that nobody has murdered Noel Biderman yet.

Why? He's not to blame. It's not as if these people weren't going to cheat anyway.

You Just slip out the back, Jack
Make a new plan, Stan
You don't need to be coy, Roy
Just get yourself free
Hop on the bus, Gus
You don't need to discuss much
Just drop off the key, Lee
And get yourself free

miss diminutive: GavinTheAlmighty: I remain surprised that nobody has murdered Noel Biderman yet.

Why? He's not to blame. It's not as if these people weren't going to cheat anyway.

That would be the case. At least it's somewhat more discrete than craigslist.

miss diminutive: [i.usatoday.net image 225x300]
Stephania Meyer, 40, and her husband Michael Oshust, 43 met online on Ashley Madison, a dating website for the married and attached. Meyer was married and Oshust was still married but getting a divorce. The couple married Feb. 15, 2007.

He looks like a psychopath.

Well that's a marriage sure to last. Nope, no questions of infidelity there.

Jake Havechek: You Just slip out the back, Jack
Make a new plan, Stan
You don't need to be coy, Roy
Just get yourself free
Hop on the bus, Gus
You don't need to discuss much
Just drop off the key, Lee
And get yourself free

The internet saved you 49 ways.

miss diminutive: Why? He's not to blame. It's not as if these people weren't going to cheat anyway.

I just don't find it a stretch that a spurned lover would take it out on the man who advocates and profits from cheating.

miss diminutive: [i.usatoday.net image 225x300]
Stephania Meyer, 40, and her husband Michael Oshust, 43 met online on Ashley Madison, a dating website for the married and attached. Meyer was married and Oshust was still married but getting a divorce. The couple married Feb. 15, 2007.

He looks like a psychopath.

Yes. Marrying someone you cheated with is a great idea.

GavinTheAlmighty: miss diminutive: Why? He's not to blame. It's not as if these people weren't going to cheat anyway.

I just don't find it a stretch that a spurned lover would take it out on the man who advocates and profits from cheating.

Why do you hate capitalism? =)

sick. didn't rtfa.

miss diminutive: [i.usatoday.net image 225x300]
Stephania Meyer, 40, and her husband Michael Oshust, 43 met online on Ashley Madison, a dating website for the married and attached. Meyer was married and Oshust is still married but getting a divorce. The couple married Feb. 15, 2007.

He looks like a psychopath bigamist.

miss diminutive: He looks like a psychopath.

I bet 100 bucks that guy likes NASCAR.

It's the modern day Ring of Gyges. Plato would be thrilled at this development.

Dating sites? Pfew. All you need to get a fark-date with a willing beautiful woman is a drug habit, bad hygiene, a vocabulary laced with profanities, a string of unpaid child support payments and a junker car. Oh, and a drinking problem. And a shiatty haircut, if it's cut at all. And a five day beard. And no concept about laundry days. And an inability to tell what time it is. Oh oh oh ... and no money.

At least, that's what it looks like out there.

stuhayes2010: miss diminutive: [i.usatoday.net image 225x300]
Stephania Meyer, 40, and her husband Michael Oshust, 43 met online on Ashley Madison, a dating website for the married and attached. Meyer was married and Oshust was still married but getting a divorce. The couple married Feb. 15, 2007.

He looks like a psychopath.

Yes. Marrying someone you cheated with is a great idea.

Had a buddy who did that, I told him repeatedly that it was a bad idea. I sat him down and asked him 'if she left that guy for you, what's to say she isn't going to leave you for another guy?' Well he told me that it just wouldn't happen.

8 months after marriage, he comes to my place and says 'so my I caught my wife cheating on me. Yup, you told me so.' I have never felt so happy to hear that my buddy had his heart broken.

Clemkadidlefark: Dating sites? Pfew. All you need to get a fark-date with a willing beautiful woman is a drug habit, bad hygiene, a vocabulary laced with profanities, a string of unpaid child support payments and a junker car. Oh, and a drinking problem. And a shiatty haircut, if it's cut at all. And a five day beard. And no concept about laundry days. And an inability to tell what time it is. Oh oh oh ... and no money.

At least, that's what it looks like out there.

you live in ohio?

What part of "What goes around, comes around" do these geniuses not understand? Karma's like gravity - it's a law

Married, brother of the wolf, smeared with blood and wearing a raw goat thong. Seeking married woman to flagellate and promote fertility in a perverted sado-masochistic ritual.

But he says he's saving marriages - he calls an affair a "marriage preservation device" that his website facilitates.

Who the hell do you think you're kidding? If you're having an affair, why the hell would you want to stay married or why the hell did you get married in the first place? That defeats the whole goddamn point of marriage.

PsiChi: What part of "What goes around, comes around" do these geniuses not understand? Karma's like gravity - it's a law

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I don't condone cheating, but come on. There's no such thing as karma. Look at Hitler.

Long as you are open about it who cares.

If the biatch would put out I wouldn't need to cheat.

j/k

KiwDaWabbit: PsiChi: What part of "What goes around, comes around" do these geniuses not understand? Karma's like gravity - it's a law

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I don't condone cheating, but come on. There's no such thing as karma. Look at Hitler.

Did you just Godwin a valentine's day thread?

/talk about bad karma...

PsiChi: What part of "What goes around, comes around" do these geniuses not understand? Karma's like gravity - it's a law

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No, it's just a matter of luck. It's purely a game of chance, like the lottery, roulette or chess.

All_Farked_Up: If the biatch would put out I wouldn't need to cheat.

j/k

Oh, she's probably getting it from somewhere...

j/k

KiwDaWabbit: PsiChi: What part of "What goes around, comes around" do these geniuses not understand? Karma's like gravity - it's a law

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I don't condone cheating, but come on. There's no such thing as karma. Look at Hitler.

I can't, cuz he's dead. Karma wins again!

So, what's Newt's username on there?

Hate sex isnt bad. Thats what you other married people have too; Right?

lennavan: But he says he's saving marriages - he calls an affair a "marriage preservation device" that his website facilitates.

Who the hell do you think you're kidding? If you're having an affair, why the hell would you want to stay married or why the hell did you get married in the first place? That defeats the whole goddamn point of marriage.

His stupid argument only works if there are kids involved and you believe that one should stay married for the kids. No kids or don't hold that belief, no reason to keep the cheater around. Pretty weak argument.

That said, though, there was some survey of men who cheated and the vast majority of them (I think like 70%) said they would say their marriage was "happy." They were able to separate the two. Women, however, cheat when unhappy.

No, I don't have a citation...just remember it from somewhere.

Kuroshin: Forgot the slashie-qualifier:

/have never cheated
//will never cheat
///11th anniversary is in two months to the day

Never say never. Seriously.

Personally, I believe that one has to keep in mind that it is likely at some point you will be tempted. Assuming you are immune actually puts you more at risk because you're not vigilant about it. Emotional affairs, for instance, can start just because you are thrown into a stressful, high-bonding experience with people at work. Like if you're an ER doctor.

YMMV, though.

Kuroshin: You don't get married to have sex. You don't stay married to keep having sex. Not getting the variety and/or quantity of sex you need to be happy can turn a marriage very bitter, and possibly end it.

I don't remember which comedian said it, but your post reminds me of this: "Getting married to have sex is like buying a 747 to get free peanuts."

//of course, that was back in the days when airlines actually served free peanuts

Kuroshin: Infidelity is when one or both people cheat on the other. Cheating isn't simply having sex outside the marriage. Cheating is doing it behind the other's back.

Fair enough, I didn't use the word sex though, I used affair with the assumption that it was without the other person's knowledge. Otherwise it's just an open marriage. I don't actually have a problem with that.

Kuroshin: You don't get married to have sex. You don't stay married to keep having sex. Not getting the variety and/or quantity of sex you need to be happy can turn a marriage very bitter, and possibly end it.

Then you (or whoever) married the wrong spouse. For better or for worse. If you married a biatch who snookered you into thinking you were going to get laid after marriage, well you chose wrong. The solution isn't to cheat on her, the solution is to divorce her and find a woman who isn't such a biatch.

Kuroshin: Sex and marriage are not in any way related to each other. Sex isn't anything more than a physical activity.

Steak is nothing more than a food. And if my wife banned me from ever eating steak, I'd divorce her so fast her head would spin.

But I digress and disagree, sex can be significantly more than a physical activity. A huge reason for male impotence is because it's also a mental activity. It can be an emotional bonding experience. Sure it can be just sex, but it can also be intimacy.

Sex and marriage are absolutely related to each other. If I care about having steak, the I need a spouse who also cares about me having steak. If I care about having sex, then I need a spouse who also cares about me having sex. If neither partner cares about sex, by all means have a sexless marriage.

I just couldn't disagree with you more. I have no issue with people having open marriages. But cheating means you're a douche. If you're not getting what you need from your marriage, divorce her. Don't cheat.

When I went through my phase where I just wanted to fark without having to think about the overhead of a relationship, I ended up building a rotation of girls that were all in other relationships. No, I didn't actively pursue them, but I didn't reject their advances. I used to think I'd never do that to another couple, but my view changed to 'I'm not the source of their problems, they're going to cheat regardless of whether or not I'm involved.'

Hey, I never claimed to be a nice guy.

PsiChi: What part of "What goes around, comes around" do these geniuses not understand? Karma's like gravity - it's a law

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How do you know??

Janusdog: His stupid argument only works if there are kids involved and you believe that one should stay married for the kids. No kids or don't hold that belief, no reason to keep the cheater around. Pretty weak argument.

Yeah, and staying in a bad marriage "for the kids" is actually probably worse for the kids.

Janusdog: That said, though, there was some survey of men who cheated and the vast majority of them (I think like 70%) said they would say their marriage was "happy." They were able to separate the two. Women, however, cheat when unhappy.

I wonder if there is any differentiation between guys who aren't getting enough sex from their marriage versus guys who are getting plenty but just want to sleep with different women. It is funny they separate sex and marriage though, I think there's a lot of stupid ongoing TV jokes about sexless marriages that feed into that.

Tat'dGreaser: Kuroshin: I know two that do.

/anecdotal evidence is a kind of evidence! ;)

Well that goes back to both of your points. It's not saving a marriage if you're cheating, if you're delusional enough to think that an open marriage actually works than it's not technically cheating.

For some people it's fact, not a delusion. How is it that you equate open marriages with dysfunction and delusion?