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(Telegraph)   If you need any work done on your work computer, better have it done before March 7th because all the IT people will be "sick" that day   ( divider line 12
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2012-02-14 05:14:31 PM  
2 votes:

Vaneshi: You are, naturally, aware of the growing trend of "BYOD" or to cut the bullshiat bingo "Bring Your Own Desktop". Whilst I am not saying the company you work for is looking at this right now, it is starting to get noticed... primarily as a way to slash IT's budget even further and pass the expenditure of buying computers to the employees (who receive little to no financial incentive to do so beyond it being a job requirement). So the chances are that sooner or later someone further up the food chain than you will hear this, figure out exactly what I just said and suddenly... well I can lend you a paddle if you want?

This trend won't grow for long outside crackerjack institutions. Computers are cheap as dirt. Maintenance is expensive. It will cost a LOT more over time to have IT try to manage dozens of different computers all running whatever where users have admin privileges than it will to buy a ton of Dell clones and deploy a locked down image to all of them. User farks the system up? Reimage, done.
2012-02-14 10:43:29 AM  
2 votes:
Oh I'll be "sick" on the 7th all right, but not for any Apple iThings

/I know it lands on the 6th, but do you think I'll get through it in only one day?
2012-02-14 09:14:04 AM  
2 votes:

legendary: IT and helpdesk folks don't use iPads because they have no use for them.
I am looking forward to my Marketing and Product teams being more useless that day than usual though.

I use it for remote administration.

But, I also do not care that iPad 3 is coming out. I've no doubt they've also got 4 5 and 6 in the scheme of things, timed to be released when people have had their previous version long enough that they'll fall in like lemmings to buy the latest and greatest.

Maybe for 3 they'll include a vial of actual tears of Chinese workers.
2012-02-14 08:24:46 PM  
1 votes:

Vaneshi: A friend was hired specifically because a support company was being dinged on the number of repairs vs reimages done. I'm not saying that's common either but you know the way these things go.

Remember, you are not a profit generating entity with in the company as far as everyone is concerned you cost them money and produce no tangible profit as far as the books are concerned. Now this concept, that's appearing in the various trade rags, pretty much states that your hardware costs are significantly lower... because your staff are having to buy the machines. Maintenance costs drops to next to zero, allegedly, because hey, that's what the warranty is for. And making you work harder & faster is a good thing because again, you generate no revenue.

Now if you think that's only going to stay in crackjack places... they said the same thing about virtualisation, 'the cloud' and Domains now I come to think of it. So I'd hope your busy with the documentation because if you're not you are going to end up in the ring against people like well... me. And it seems I can out tech you. I'll probably work for the same £25k as well.

I'm not in IT support, I'm a software developer. I don't make anywhere near that much, but my time charges out at $120/hour. If they bet on going cheap with hardware support, they better not be wrong - I bill more in a day than a commodity business PC costs new, and if I'm charging overhead because I'm waiting for repairs on a consumer-grade warranty rather than real support, they're losing money.

Also, if my employer told me to bring in my own machine my immediate assumption is that they're about to go tits up so my resume is going out ASAP.

Trying to "out-tech" people is silly. It's not 1992 any more. An i7 machine with a bunch of RAM is still under a grand, and unless you're doing serious data crunching that's enormously more power than anyone needs for work.

Obviously it's different if you're working for a startup or something, but a company that's trying to save hardware costs by having people bring in their own computers is costing itself a lot of money in the long run.

Virtualization and the cloud aren't very good analogs. Virtualization is still managed, and the cloud has contracts. Worker owned machines have no control. Some companies may try to save money this way, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea. Companies shoot themselves in the foot chasing a quick buck regularly.
2012-02-14 06:18:42 PM  
1 votes:

MightyPez: tlchwi02: T.M.S.: So what would be a better solution to these problems?

Problem: Laptops are too big and heavy
Problem: Laptops take too long to start and shut down
Problem: Phone screens are too small

I am honesty curious.

i don't think those are problems with laptops?

so you're "solving" several problems that don't really exist and in exhange you just give up the ease of content creation a laptop offers and focus exclusively on content consumption. This is cool if you're a person sitting on your couch who can do your real content creation at work on a real machine and just wants to web surf without the full interface. But those people aren''t in IT.

There's a reason why medical professionals are snapping up tablets very quickly.

You can't exactly carry around a laptop with you going from patient to patient. Project managers, real estate brokers, et al love tablets for their jobs, as well as pilots, musicians, and boat captains.

To say tablets don't solve issues is a myopic view. They often replace an existing system to make it easier and often cheaper.

As an IT professional for a major HC provider, you really have no idea what you are talking about. Doctors are not snatching them up quickly. They have a PC in their office and a pc mounted in every exam room, with a 2nd 30 inch monitor above the patient bed for displaying various medical images, MRIs, Xrays, Ultrasounds, etc, high resolution images you would not want to review with a patient on a 10 inch screen.

The electronic medical record software is not supported by the Ipad, nor is the Ipad able to connect to network resources without some 3rd party app that does not meet regulatory requirements for security. Ipads can not get corp email again without some 3rd party application (such as GOOD, which by all accounts is a piece of crap).

We have Ipads in our environment, for 1 sole purpose, to display content (ie run videos) in healthly living classes. No one can pop from room to room and do anything productive in our enterprise environment with an Ipad.
2012-02-14 04:31:21 PM  
1 votes:

Problem: Laptops are too big and heavy
Problem: Laptops take too long to start and shut down
Problem: Phone screens are too small

The first two aren't problems with the device, they're problems with the user. The 3rd has nothing to do with much of anything.
2012-02-14 11:11:25 AM  
1 votes:
Why would we call in sick when we can use the great bandwidth we have at work to watch the announcement?

We'll just post a sign outside our cube that says 'Attending online classroom - do not disturb'

I think Roy and Moss would approve of this.
2012-02-14 10:53:42 AM  
1 votes:

bravian: legendary: IT and helpdesk folks don't use iPads because they have no use for them.
I am looking forward to my Marketing and Product teams being more useless that day than usual though.

Then why do I see most IT people with them?

/I can understand Helpdesk people not having them - they make 4.95/hour
//use it for e-mail, remote access, documentation, brainstorming, access to technical documentation, flowcharting, etc

Of all the other IT that I work with, the only ones who value ipads are the ones who use it as a status symbol/show of wealth or to try to look more 'tech-y' to compensate for their lack of problem solving or programming ability.

Anyone who uses that around an office or at work is either without a permanent desk or is middle/upper management.
2012-02-14 10:45:42 AM  
1 votes:
Not real IT people. They'll be warming their coffee on a Netezza server while chewing Xanax to alleviate their anxiety of the inevitable release day where every EVP calls in at 9am sharp asking "Can you help me get my new iPad onto the Exchange?"
2012-02-14 10:32:05 AM  
1 votes:

legendary: IT and helpdesk folks don't use iPads because they have no use for them.
I am looking forward to my Marketing and Product teams being more useless that day than usual though.

If any IT person cares about Apple that much, they'll only need to keep a live blog open on their system or iPhone. In my experience, mass IT worker call-ins are usually tied to major MMO releases.
2012-02-14 10:29:57 AM  
1 votes:
For a second there i thought they finally nailed down the release date for diablo 3. That was foolish of me.
2012-02-14 08:43:56 AM  
1 votes:
I expect most of them will be sick on March 6th when Mass Effect 3 comes out, submitter. :p
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