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(Orlando Sentinel)   Why will Whitney Houston's toxicology reports take weeks? Coroner's office: Because this ain't CSI   (orlandosentinel.com) divider line 69
    More: Followup, Clive Davis, Los Angeles County Coroner, screening tests, operations officer, coroners  
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2012-02-14 06:55:24 AM
What are we supposed to comment on....?

Those tests do take weeks, and CSI is completely unrealistic.

Next thread.....?
 
2012-02-14 07:03:17 AM
TheSignPost: What are we supposed to comment on....?

Those tests do take weeks, and CSI is completely unrealistic.

Next thread.....?



What? A cause of death can't be determined in one hour?
 
2012-02-14 07:13:19 AM
It'll take weeks? Sure, next you're going to try and convince me that CSI labs aren't all dark and moody and that CSI techs don't do interrogations or arrests of dangerous suspects.

Not falling for it.
 
2012-02-14 07:25:11 AM
Because her blood sample broke the gas chromatograph ?
 
2012-02-14 08:01:48 AM
I've got nothing, so here's a picture of Marg Helgenberger:

cdn02.cdn.egotastic.com
 
2012-02-14 08:30:42 AM
I don't believe it. I saw Gattica. They can tell everything in seconds.
 
2012-02-14 08:30:42 AM
Because formaldehyde-laced heroin inhibits PCR?
 
2012-02-14 08:31:59 AM
Principal Clarinet: TheSignPost: What are we supposed to comment on....?

Those tests do take weeks, and CSI is completely unrealistic.

Next thread.....?


What? A cause of death can't be determined in one hour?


Only when it's pretty obvious (gunshot, stab wound, etc.).
 
2012-02-14 08:33:51 AM
ENHANCE
 
2012-02-14 08:36:31 AM
she's a cewebwaty expedite her work!
 
2012-02-14 08:38:13 AM
I don't believe him. I think they were too busy playing with their body scan holograms and solving cases entirely by themselves with no detectives.
 
2012-02-14 08:41:11 AM
Drugs. Next.
 
2012-02-14 08:41:25 AM
upload.wikimedia.org

..not amused by staff / funding cuts...
 
2012-02-14 08:41:49 AM
born_yesterday: ENHANCE

*tak* *tak* *tak*

ENHANCE
 
2012-02-14 08:42:47 AM
They're not stupid... you have to wait till the season finale to drop something this big!
 
2012-02-14 08:44:01 AM
What's worse is that, every time, this happens... There is a collective amnesia among journalists and their fans, so we once again hear the same questions and are subjected to the same stories.
 
2012-02-14 08:44:03 AM
You know what I'd love to see happen? The coroners office barring the public from knowing the outcome of the toxicology reports. I'd love to see the American public kicked in the fekking "looky-loo" groin on this one. I'd love to see the American entertainment tabloid machine left with absolutely nothing to talk about. After all: Is it really our business? Seems like a family matter, to me.

I'd laugh my ass off.
 
2012-02-14 08:50:31 AM
Also, because it's nobody's farking business?

She was a gifted artist with a troubled personal life. Why do we always have to dissect these deaths? How does it benefit anyone's life to confirm what she made painfully obvious in her life?

Just watch her youtube video of the National Anthem and let it go, man.

/Let it go.
 
2012-02-14 08:51:33 AM
Well, isn't that remarkable.

/want to guess what won't be?
 
2012-02-14 08:52:52 AM
e2de.com

We're working on it.

Queue "The Who"
 
2012-02-14 08:55:25 AM
While investigating the crime scene, a fiber will be found. This will be matched to a particular type of cotton used only in one brand of clothing. A quick check of stores in the area will come up with a sale to someone last Thursday. A photo from the surveillance camera in the stores parking lot will show a car leaving a few minutes after the sale. Blowing up the photo will reveal the license plate number. The cops will show up at the house that the car is registered to, arresting the "perp."
It was no overdose.
It was murder.
 
2012-02-14 08:55:30 AM
I went to the emergency room for a TIA. They had results from a CBC within an hour or so. The doctor told me how much THC, alcohol, opiates, (positive for a considerable amount of alcohol) etc. I had in my system. Isn't that what they will be testing her for?
 
2012-02-14 08:55:40 AM
I love that the L.A. Coroner has an online gift shop:

Link
 
2012-02-14 08:56:22 AM
Sir Arthur Streeb-Greebling: Also, because it's nobody's farking business?

She was a gifted artist with a troubled personal life. Why do we always have to dissect these deaths? How does it benefit anyone's life to confirm what she made painfully obvious in her life?

Just watch her youtube video of the National Anthem and let it go, man.

/Let it go.


Hey, it's not enough to see the train wreck, I want to see the vapor cloud, too.
 
2012-02-14 08:56:36 AM
Whar toxicology report? Whar?

NoBama is covering this up too!
 
2012-02-14 08:56:37 AM
 
2012-02-14 08:59:20 AM
Cocaine and alcohol can be tested for in about 30 minutes. Start there.
 
2012-02-14 09:01:51 AM
She was held under water by the weight of a gravy boat.

It's a new working theory.
 
2012-02-14 09:02:49 AM
What a party pooper she had to be.


Really, couldn't she wait a couple of days more, until the bammys or whatever the hell those awards are called are over?

Did she really have to rain so hard on their parade?

Sounds like revenge to me
 
2012-02-14 09:04:51 AM
Was stuck in a hotel for a month last year with a crap assed channel selection. Ended up watching TNT a lot. Christ, I don't know how anyone can stand to watch CSI or NCIC. Horrible acting, horrible plots, moronic premise.
 
2012-02-14 09:05:30 AM
Well, I think we need a Presidential Commission to look into why this is taking so long. The people want to know. I mean everybody is just shocked, SHOCKED by Whitney Houston's death. Is there a cover up or something?
 
2012-02-14 09:07:36 AM
joninaz: I love that the L.A. Coroner has an online gift shop:

Link


images.wikia.com

We have the right to remain fabulous.
 
2012-02-14 09:12:22 AM
You know its gonna be lupus...... its always lupus!
 
2012-02-14 09:12:44 AM
Urine drug tests (the dippy stick ones) cost about 5 bucks and take about 2 minutes to run. Extract some urine with a syringe (from her bladder), put in cup, wait 2 minutes: answer!
 
2012-02-14 09:16:20 AM
At least we know her last words:

"And IIIIIIIIII,,,EEE,,,,,IIIIIII,,,,,,
Just drowned in the tuuuuuuuuuubbbbbb,
Glub, Glub, Glub, Glub gluuuueeeeuuueeuuub"
 
2012-02-14 09:18:43 AM
glenlivid: You know what I'd love to see happen? The coroners office barring the public from knowing the outcome of the toxicology reports. I'd love to see the American public kicked in the fekking "looky-loo" groin on this one. I'd love to see the American entertainment tabloid machine left with absolutely nothing to talk about. After all: Is it really our business? Seems like a family matter, to me.

I'd laugh my ass off.


You're right that it should be private, but removing public access to reports like that is dangerous. What if it were ...say Rick Santorum...and the corpse appeared to have radiation poisoning? What if it were an Occupy protestor who keeled over in a cell and the coroner said it was a natural death?

Whenever someone paid by the public to do a job the public deems necessary, the work should be available for public scrutiny. That said, the solution is for people to stop falling all over themselves to read the reports on private tragedies. The media doesn't make people base and crude. The media reflects its audience.
 
2012-02-14 09:24:51 AM
Mantour: You mean, can't they just create a GUI interface using visual basic to track the killers IP address? (new window)

Morbo: The internet does not work that way!
 
2012-02-14 09:25:41 AM
billgulch: [upload.wikimedia.org image 250x156]

..not amused by staff / funding cuts...


Someone should have left bite marks on her, and tied a string to her finger.
 
2012-02-14 09:30:18 AM
Satanic_Hamster: Was stuck in a hotel for a month last year with a crap assed channel selection. Ended up watching TNT a lot. Christ, I don't know how anyone can stand to watch CSI or NCIC. Horrible acting, horrible plots, moronic premise.

That's part of the charm.

Not only to the CSIs investigate the crime scene, they also interview suspects and do high risk suspect take downs. I'm not sure what the police actually do, traffic duty I suppose. They also have new and fancy machines every week for doing the same sort of testing they had a different machine for the previous week.

The finger print matching is also amazing. Within a minute they've a perfect match. Why they deem it necessary to display all the non-matching prints is something my non-investigative mind just doesn't understand.

My interest as been moving to the equally plausible Person Of Interest.
 
2012-02-14 09:32:50 AM
Satanic_Hamster

Was stuck in a hotel for a month last year with a crap assed channel selection. Ended up watching TNT a lot. Christ, I don't know how anyone can stand to watch CSI or NCIC. Horrible acting, horrible plots, moronic premise.

THIS!

My mom sits & watches those shows all day long & every time she tries to tell me about them when I'm over there I remind her not to bother since I think they're crap.She of course thinks that that's how it's done in RL.
 
2012-02-14 09:34:58 AM
Oh come on now. We all know they got that little machine that spins around and spits out all of the chemical contents in a matter of seconds.
 
2012-02-14 09:49:04 AM
12 different prescription drugs, cold medicine, brandy, a small quantity of heroin. And some crack.


There that wasn't so hard, was it?
 
2012-02-14 09:49:31 AM
CygnusDarius: born_yesterday: ENHANCE

*tak* *tak* *tak*

ENHANCE


*tak* *tak* *tak*

ENHANCE
 
2012-02-14 09:55:15 AM
mdin2k: Cocaine and alcohol can be tested for in about 30 minutes. Start there.

And they probably will start there. TFA spent some time on how the reduced funding for tox labs has caused a backlog of cases, which means that unless the family chooses to expedite the results (if that's even an option) it's at the back of the queue. Of course those statements were from someone who runs a tox lab and has an obligation to make such statements in order to make the case for more funding for his department.

Quick googling shows Amy Winehouse's results were available in about 30 days. There's no real need to have them in faster--nobody is going to die because they don't know what killed Whitney. We could even take 4 or 6 months and nobody would be harmed. So we'll deal with it, unless we want to actually educate, equip and fund thousands of technicians to have on call 24/7 to give us the CSI experience every time some drugged-up celebrity wants to OD.
 
2012-02-14 09:59:44 AM
one word,
Budget

/Billionaires would have to pay for the TV version...not like in reality, where cowardly politicians set it.
 
2012-02-14 10:00:30 AM
I'm sure it would have gotten expedited if there was suspicion of foul play.

/just glad the "Law and Order" pressure is subsiding
//very annoying to actual lawyers
///Whaddaya mean it takes more than a week from arrest to jury trial??!!
 
2012-02-14 10:07:07 AM
I Don't Appreciate Your Ruse: Urine drug tests (the dippy stick ones) cost about 5 bucks and take about 2 minutes to run. Extract some urine with a syringe (from her bladder), put in cup, wait 2 minutes: answer!

Brilliant! My god, how the coroner will chuckle when he realizes how simple it was, once you pointed out how easy it should be... Still, I am sure he will want to meet the genius whose piercing insight showed us a better path. Are you free this weekend?

Snark aside, I am a part time scene tech for our coroner, and I can tell you: a) antemortem changes in drug concentrations are fascinatingly complex, and b) the last thing you want to do is release preliminary findings, especially in a high profile case.

FYI, ibuprofin offensive gives a false positive for PCP on preliminary tests..
 
2012-02-14 10:56:57 AM
Was a Grand Jury member a while back. The prosecutor told us on the first day that shows like CSI are the absolute worst thing that have happened in his job. In something like 15 years as a prosecutor, he said there was one case where there was a usable fingerprint.

csb
 
2012-02-14 11:03:28 AM
neritz: CygnusDarius: born_yesterday: ENHANCE

*tak* *tak* *tak*

ENHANCE

*tak* *tak* *tak*

ENHANCE


i494.photobucket.com
 
2012-02-14 11:08:23 AM
In response to a question about the return of the Courtney Cox vehicle "Cougar Town", Rollins had this to say: "Television has ruined us."
 
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