lazyguineapig33: hey boomers,

remeber when minimum wage got up to $11 an hour in the 60s while you were growing up? remember when governments invested in education in stead of cut it? remember when you grew up during the most prosperous period in the nation's entire history? remember when work wasnt being exported to indians and chineese and mexicans? remember when companies would invest in human capital before you invented the "free agent" economy? remember when our national debt was less than 100% of GDP? remember when a decent job didnt require a college degree?

you are the real snowflakes

before you biatch about lazy millennial, i work 65+hours a week.

Wow - nice randomly angry rant. I thought you millennial hippies were all happy and stoned out. Fight the system, man, don't become the system.

Cyno01: Hey assholes, why dont you start school later? I sure as hell didnt enjoy dragging my ass outa bed at 5:30 every day to get to school via the bus by 7 and then get out @ 2:30. Thats just asinine, why not start school at 8:30 or 9 and end at 4-4:30. Since most parents work 9ish to 5ish... Better attendance, more alert kids, and you dont have kids unsupervised for a few hours after school.

Yeah!

I concur.

Smart School, duh.

;)

""I'm very excited to get the money," 16-year-old student Arneqka Lester told the paper. "It makes me want to come to school on time."

I can guarantee that these kids parents are being paid already to raise their own kids thru food stamps, welfare and housing, so of course the kids will be like fark you and your school show me the money.

Cyno01: Hey assholes, why dont you start school later? I sure as hell didnt enjoy dragging my ass outa bed at 5:30 every day to get to school via the bus by 7 and then get out @ 2:30. Thats just asinine, why not start school at 8:30 or 9 and end at 4-4:30. Since most parents work 9ish to 5ish... Better attendance, more alert kids, and you dont have kids unsupervised for a few hours after school.

Sorry, the county can only afford so many school buses, so little kids must suffer.

Cyno01: Hey assholes, why dont you start school later? I sure as hell didnt enjoy dragging my ass outa bed at 5:30 every day to get to school via the bus by 7 and then get out @ 2:30. Thats just asinine, why not start school at 8:30 or 9 and end at 4-4:30. Since most parents work 9ish to 5ish... Better attendance, more alert kids, and you dont have kids unsupervised for a few hours after school.

We had a solution for this. It was called "go to bed at a decent hour you farking moran".

Does anyone still have the uphill both ways pic with the pack of wolves too?

manofmanyhats: Does anyone still have the uphill both ways pic with the pack of wolves too?

I've got a t-shirt with three wolves howling at the moon.


/no, I don't.
//I'm not that cool.

Four Yorkshiremen - The Monty Python Poor skit

Link


/had to be linked

commmmeeee onnnnn Dec 21st 2012....

please, make it happen.

This is the dumbest farking thing I've read all month... so far.

Cyno01: Hey assholes, why dont you start school later? I sure as hell didnt enjoy dragging my ass outa bed at 5:30 every day to get to school via the bus by 7 and then get out @ 2:30. Thats just asinine, why not start school at 8:30 or 9 and end at 4-4:30. Since most parents work 9ish to 5ish... Better attendance, more alert kids, and you dont have kids unsupervised for a few hours after school.

I've never understood the arguement here...

I started at 7:30, got up at 5am to catch the 6:15 bus ride. That was over 20 yrs ago, I was never bribed to do something I was supposed to be doing... like going to school.

STFU and get the FU for school.

Gyrfalcon: Cyno01: Hey assholes, why dont you start school later? I sure as hell didnt enjoy dragging my ass outa bed at 5:30 every day to get to school via the bus by 7 and then get out @ 2:30. Thats just asinine, why not start school at 8:30 or 9 and end at 4-4:30. Since most parents work 9ish to 5ish... Better attendance, more alert kids, and you dont have kids unsupervised for a few hours after school.

That would work.

I've seen countless reasons why school should start later, and number one is always it's been PROVEN kids learn more and are healthier overall.

I've seen countless reasons why it shouldn't...but not one has EVER been that it's better for the kids for school to start early. It's ALWAYS for convenience sake. (Teachers, administrators, bus drivers, after-school sports, parents)

Why not start school later and let kids wake up better? They might be, I don't know, more likely to get there if they weren't so tired in the morning. If kids wanted to come to school, maybe they would.

Ahem, teachers don't usually like being to work at the establo-crack-o-dawn either...

At least, that's what I've heard, anyway.

;)

Teach them actual responsibility and treat it like a job? Mkay.

Where do I submit for my back pay?

KrispyKritter: that money would be better spent sterilizing those children, and their parents. if anyone can find or identify them.

Oh you're most certainly going for that...

;)

What ever happened to punishing the parents and failing the students.

AcademGreen: What ever happened to punishing the parents and failing the students.

If you do that you can't blame Republicans or raise taxes to punish the rich that don't vote the same way libs do.

We tried doing the same thing at the company I work for. We offered "employees" a "paycheck" for coming in to work and "working". We have had about the same success rate as a "non paying" high school. Sorry folks, but that sense of entitlement is already here, and the first victim (work ethic) has already been claimed.
A whole damned generation of superstar rappers just biding their time...

That isn't the solution I would have put forward. Less than 25% graduation rate?

Close the school. It obviously isn't doing anyone any good. Send the kids that still want an education to the next nearest highschool(s). Send the rest straight to the police precinct to register as delinquents.

While you are at it, send all the money that school soaks up (and apparently burns) over to the police as well. They probably need it more, and I know they make better use of it. (how could they not?)


/csb
When I was 16, I got called to the principles office one day. He said "Son, you've missed 109 out of 112 days this year, what do you have to say for yourself" Me "I am not your son, you will address me as Mr Namewithheld. Also your tracking system is flawed, I only missed 1 class each day, always the same one, I have a 3.6 gpa, and I'm in honors classes usually reserved for seniors. Do you want to make a thing of it?" He expelled me. 8 days later I walked back into his office with a letter from the superintendent. I was not expelled any more.
Although I am single-handedly responsible for my school going from "open campus" to closed. Along with a much better attendance system.

mp3po: We tried doing the same thing at the company I work for. We offered "employees" a "paycheck" for coming in to work and "working". We have had about the same success rate as a "non paying" high school. Sorry folks, but that sense of entitlement is already here, and the first victim (work ethic) has already been claimed.
A whole damned generation of superstar rappers just biding their time...

Apple meet orange.

I'm sorry, but what the hell is wrong with these parents that are ok with their kids not going to school?

I'll reward my children with a roof over their head, so long as they go to school. The minute they stop is the minute I'm kicking their asses out on to the street.

Cyno01: Hey assholes, why dont you start school later? I sure as hell didnt enjoy dragging my ass outa bed at 5:30 every day to get to school via the bus by 7 and then get out @ 2:30. Thats just asinine, why not start school at 8:30 or 9 and end at 4-4:30. Since most parents work 9ish to 5ish... Better attendance, more alert kids, and you dont have kids unsupervised for a few hours after school.

I'm positive that if there had been an option to go to school at night instead of the daytime, I would have gotten way better grades. I've always naturally been sleepy all day and alert at night. I know there are tons of reasons school districts can't do that. Not having to get up at dawn would have been some improvement, at least.

Indubitably: mp3po: We tried doing the same thing at the company I work for. We offered "employees" a "paycheck" for coming in to work and "working". We have had about the same success rate as a "non paying" high school. Sorry folks, but that sense of entitlement is already here, and the first victim (work ethic) has already been claimed.
A whole damned generation of superstar rappers just biding their time...

Apple meet orange.

Upon reexamination of my post, I can see why you might say that. I did in fact, do a rather poor job in my attempt to convey my point through the juxtaposition of the situation outlined in the article and my own (admittedly limited) life experience.
It would appear that even though I am not in favor of the idea, I may have in fact provided the best argument for it.
Perhaps the reason I was unable to illustrate my point accurately and vividly is because I was not paid to go to school.
They learned me for cheap!!

mp3po: Indubitably: mp3po: We tried doing the same thing at the company I work for. We offered "employees" a "paycheck" for coming in to work and "working". We have had about the same success rate as a "non paying" high school. Sorry folks, but that sense of entitlement is already here, and the first victim (work ethic) has already been claimed.
A whole damned generation of superstar rappers just biding their time...

Apple meet orange.

Upon reexamination of my post, I can see why you might say that. I did in fact, do a rather poor job in my attempt to convey my point through the juxtaposition of the situation outlined in the article and my own (admittedly limited) life experience.
It would appear that even though I am not in favor of the idea, I may have in fact provided the best argument for it.
Perhaps the reason I was unable to illustrate my point accurately and vividly is because I was not paid to go to school.
They learned me for cheap!!

Sweetness, the fact you bothered makes me love you large, friend.

Feel the love.

Peace.

Creoena: This further proves my theory on education that if someone refuses to learn we shouldn't waste time and resources on them. Give them to the people who have more of a future than being a crack dealer

Your theory is genius. Now add in a life time of incarceration and we have a net what? It sure isn't profit.

This is society making up for bad parenting. The question isn't whether or not it's "right" cause when can leave that question to the people on the right. The question is whether or not it gets results and is cost effective. Living in a world that has consequences and not waiting for a reward when I die gives me a different perspective I guess.

AcademGreen: What ever happened to punishing the parents and failing the students.

That stopped when they started giving the losing teams trophies in T-Ball... because ya know... no one is a loser.

LeftOfLiberal: Your theory is genius. Now add in a life time of incarceration and we have a net what? It sure isn't profit.

no... but it sure does get dumb farks who never wanted to participate in creating & maintaining a civalize society locked up & out of our way.

LeftOfLiberal: The question is whether or not it gets results and is cost effective.

If that's the 1st point you can come up with then you are part of the problem. There shouldn't have to be a payment to go the fark to school and get an education. Do colleges pay for students to enroll? nope.

civilized

LeftOfLiberal: Creoena: This further proves my theory on education that if someone refuses to learn we shouldn't waste time and resources on them. Give them to the people who have more of a future than being a crack dealer

Your theory is genius. Now add in a life time of incarceration and we have a net what? It sure isn't profit.

This is society making up for bad parenting. The question isn't whether or not it's "right" cause when can leave that question to the people on the right. The question is whether or not it gets results and is cost effective. Living in a world that has consequences and not waiting for a reward when I die gives me a different perspective I guess.

Education has been making up for bad parenting for centuries, friend.

The real question is: WTF are We trying to do with public education?

Figure that out, and you'll have a world that acknowledges consequences and rewards "right"...

I don't know anything about the school outside of that article, but $40,000/year really isn't that much to try an incentive program. If it raises graduation rates substantially I don't have to like it, but I can get behind a program.

When I was in school, good attendance and high GPA was rewarded with a 'discount card' good for use at many local businesses, and it worked. Students who were borderline on showing up on a given day would show up, and more students cared about their grades in the short term.

Last I heard a couple weeks ago a local school here had a non-attendance rate of 4% a couple years ago, and an 'end of year raffle' with tickets based on attendance. Now their non-attendance is down to 2%. It's a win for everyone involved, since the kids get loot and education, and the school recoups their costs in funding dollars based on attendance.

Just look at those fools, trying to use a carrot instead of a stick! How COULD they?!

no child left behind 18% APR financing

Schools get money for attendance numbers. What's a gift card when thousands of dollars are on the line?

Schools get money for lots of dumb things that have absolutely no weight when it actually comes to what an actual student will learn to make them a useful member of society.

Schools are a money machine like everything else out there. Just think of it in terms of being paid not to plant crops and you'll be on the right track.

Funny enough there was a blip on the news regarding parents of charter school students being livid about the fines assessed for bad behavior etc etc. Yes, charter schools will answer all our prayers and make the money machine much more visible.

Respect to all of you Farkers who still teach and haven't been crushed by the insanity of the system.

Cyno01: Do most adults have to be at work at 7am? Theres a reason 8-830ish is rush hour. Also theres this thing called cicadian rhythm, teenagers is set later.

Depends on your job. Many manual labor jobs do have a 7am start time.

That being said, one can adjust their personal rhythm. Go to be early. Get up early. Attend classes. Get good grades. Get a good job.

Profit.

I saw this on the local "Fox News" and was reported in the same trolltastic fashion as the headline. It's pant's on head retarded as presented.

However if you get into the 'liberal' nuances of the details....
This is a STUDY to test effectiveness. Most of the funding is private, but the group doing the study did get grants, so you could say it's (partially) government funded.

The study isn't paying for every student to go to school, just those that are in danger of dropping out. The parents have already failed to do their part, and fining the parents is pointless, they don't pay any of the fees already.

The preliminary studies have shown a significant 30% reduction in dropouts, though it's still debatable if the reduction should warrant nationwide adoption and funding. I doubt this method is going to prove successull enough for full implementation, but neither am I going to join the Tea Party mob to crush it before the data is all in.

TheGogmagog: I saw this on the local "Fox News" and was reported in the same trolltastic fashion as the headline. It's pant's on head retarded as presented.

However if you get into the 'liberal' nuances of the details....
This is a STUDY to test effectiveness. Most of the funding is private, but the group doing the study did get grants, so you could say it's (partially) government funded.

The study isn't paying for every student to go to school, just those that are in danger of dropping out. The parents have already failed to do their part, and fining the parents is pointless, they don't pay any of the fees already.

The preliminary studies have shown a significant 30% reduction in dropouts, though it's still debatable if the reduction should warrant nationwide adoption and funding. I doubt this method is going to prove successull enough for full implementation, but neither am I going to join the Tea Party mob to crush it before the data is all in.


...aaaaand someone had to go and make it political. Fox News, Tea Party, 'liberal' in sarcastic quotes...all the right buzzwords.

How about this: I am a political conservative. I want the poor to be better equipped to succeed. I want kids to show up to school and do well. I don't believe in throwing money around aimlessly, but I think it's one effective tool (among others) if used wisely. I believe in the carrot over the stick, and I think this program has the potential to be great and succeed where many others have failed. There are many others like me. Don't pigeonhole us into the narrow box you've built in your head and labeled "conservative".

I actually did walk up hill both ways to school and I lived in Iowa so it was in the snow at times, but I did have boots on. Our house was halfway up a hill and the bus that picked me up in the morning stopped at the top of the hill and the bus that took me home in the afternoon dropped me off at the bottom. I always said that if I ever had kids I was going to use that line and I have the pictures to prove it.

ronaprhys: Cyno01: Do most adults have to be at work at 7am? Theres a reason 8-830ish is rush hour. Also theres this thing called cicadian rhythm, teenagers is set later.

Depends on your job. Many manual labor jobs do have a 7am start time.

That being said, one can adjust their personal rhythm. Go to be early. Get up early. Attend classes. Get good grades. Get a good job.

Profit.

You don't get it, dude.

If school is manual labor in your construct, you have failed, and are unsuccessful, before you have even begun...

Try again, please.

Thank you.

;)