If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(NPR)   America has a long history of being VERY VERY ANGRY. But we get over it   (npr.org) divider line 11
    More: Interesting, Wisconsin State Capitol, Arizona Governor, Frederick Douglass, University of New Orleans, Charlie Crist  
•       •       •

9845 clicks; posted to Main » on 13 Feb 2012 at 4:21 PM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



Voting Results (Smartest)
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


Archived thread
2012-02-13 04:55:27 PM
3 votes:
www.alicia-logic.com

An American is smart. AMERICANS are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals- and you know it.
2012-02-13 05:12:09 PM
2 votes:

ronaprhys: There is an argument to be made about the facts that matter, how they get interpreted, etc.

Lies, damn lies, and statistics.


Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Issues like abortion hinge on a classification, which is going to be based in fact but come down to a judgement call on what the significant criteria are (essentially, is anything with a complete, reasonably unique human genome a human, or is there an amount of independent viability as an organism required, and if so, how much) or even whether the overall concern is moral or practical (the contraception issue that's come up a few threads in the past week, for instance-- the Catholics fall entirely on the 'moral consistency' side, basically everyone else in the universe prioritizes the practical aspects of the problem to one degree or another).

Contrast those kind of policy arguments with the creationism thing, which hinges on the fact that Evolution doesn't exist. That fact is just, well, flat-out wrong, as Evolution has been directly observed thousands of times now, and indirectly observed a couple million times. This has been pointed out to the people on the wrong side of the argument, and they refuse to budge. Thus, they graduate from ignorant to stupid and the argument itself graduates from 'valuable so that ideas are fleshed out' to 'completely pointless waste of resources for everyone involved, and harmful to discussion in general in that it's considered worth discussing at all'.

Another good example of the type 2 discussion would be most open advocacy of actual racism, since the fundmental assumption of racism (that race inherently correlates to behavior or other mental qualities) is demonstrably factually incorrect. Thus, arguments where one side supports it as the core of their ideas are counterproductive and stupid rather than philosophically useful.
2012-02-13 04:37:11 PM
2 votes:
too bad all people do is get angry. when they get shooty is when things change.
2012-02-13 06:07:21 PM
1 votes:

nmemkha: If civil war comes to America, you have two sides:

A) Progressive intellectuals and artists. The true "creators" in the economy who will not want to live under the theocratic fascism.

B) Old people, corporate sociopaths who used to make money off A, racists, fascists, and unthinking religious fanatics.

I wonder which side will prosper ...


You might take into consideration which side enjoys gun ownership . . .

doctorbulldog.files.wordpress.com
2012-02-13 05:38:45 PM
1 votes:
If civil war comes to America, you have two sides:

A) Progressive intellectuals and artists. The true "creators" in the economy who will not want to live under the theocratic fascism.

B) Old people, corporate sociopaths who used to make money off A, racists, fascists, and unthinking religious fanatics.

I wonder which side will prosper ...
2012-02-13 05:17:52 PM
1 votes:

beta_plus: When a Democrat gets angry, it's only because he loves his fellow man so much that he must educate him in the way liberals see fit and take his money to pay for some fat person's healthcare and force catholic churches to pay for abortions. It's OK to be angry then, because a liberal is always on the side of good and whatever makes him angry must therefore be evil.


rlv.zcache.com

In these parts, this sticker can be found plastered on to one in every three Volvos.
2012-02-13 05:00:01 PM
1 votes:
The half a million dead Iraqis who died in another one of americas homicidal rages got over it.

Whats the big deal.

They should be glad they weren't caught up in the Vietnam homicidal rage. We slaughtered 3 million during that massacre. When God is on your side you can really kill.
2012-02-13 04:49:26 PM
1 votes:
This is why Valium..
2012-02-13 04:48:22 PM
1 votes:
ArtosRC:
We keep getting angry because we keep getting shafted by those with power. You'd think we'd have learned by now.

Too bad your typical angry American feels cheated by life, knows deep down who is doing the cheating... and still biatches about gays and immigrants ruining their country.

Anger without any intelligent analysis behind it is just a chimp flinging shiat. Say what you will about Marxism, at least Karl Marx was an educated man who looked at how the system was screwing his fellow man, correctly identified the injustices, and proposed an alternate system he felt was more just. His solution may have been poor, but he still beats the Tea Baggers etc. who just pick a weak and easy target, and blame them for everything.
2012-02-13 04:37:29 PM
1 votes:

Jim_Callahan: Being passionate about your political positions is good, and healthy for democracy.

This doesn't change the fact that your political positions being as stupid as you can possibly make them, and you refusing to budge even though, as someone capable of remembering to breathe, you damned well know they're stupid, is bad, and unhealthy for democracy.

Note that this is a line that's harder to cross than you'd think. For instance, I disagree with drug warriors and anti-abortion people fairly vehemently and think that they're generally bad people with bad ideas, but in the end they still fall on the "good for democracy" side because having the conversation is a net benefit. Creationists, though? Yeeeeeah...

//Basically, its good to have your own opinion, but if you think you're entitled to your own facts you can go stick your head in a pig.


There is an argument to be made about the facts that matter, how they get interpreted, etc.

Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
2012-02-13 04:31:50 PM
1 votes:
Being passionate about your political positions is good, and healthy for democracy.

This doesn't change the fact that your political positions being as stupid as you can possibly make them, and you refusing to budge even though, as someone capable of remembering to breathe, you damned well know they're stupid, is bad, and unhealthy for democracy.

Note that this is a line that's harder to cross than you'd think. For instance, I disagree with drug warriors and anti-abortion people fairly vehemently and think that they're generally bad people with bad ideas, but in the end they still fall on the "good for democracy" side because having the conversation is a net benefit. Creationists, though? Yeeeeeah...

//Basically, its good to have your own opinion, but if you think you're entitled to your own facts you can go stick your head in a pig.
 
Displayed 11 of 11 comments

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report