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(Time)   20-year-old Jewish-American soldier served in the Israeli Defense Forces and is now in the US Army. Verdict? IDF: Less discipline, too much tuna. US Army: Better boots   (battleland.blogs.time.com) divider line 143
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2012-02-13 01:33:12 PM  
Yeah that sounds pretty accurate
 
2012-02-13 02:20:24 PM  
Less discipline, too much tuna.

i would think one is related to the other
 
2012-02-13 03:11:40 PM  
Sometimes I think Fark needs a "flame-bait" tag.
 
2012-02-13 03:13:26 PM  
From what I understand most of IDF service involves sitting on the beach getting high. But it may have changed.

Some have even suggested that occasional skirmishes along the Lebanese border are drug deals gone bad.
 
2012-02-13 03:13:43 PM  
FTA:"Rank structure absolutely exists, but at the same time all enlisted ranks are more of less equal 90% of the time...when you're on a base and you're dealing with your commanders - up to a lieutenant, or even sometimes a captain - as long as you're not in a frontline combat unit where everything is a little more rigid - there's a good chance that within a few months you're going to be addressing him on a first name basis."

So bascially it's the USAF.
 
2012-02-13 03:13:53 PM  

netweavr: Sometimes I think Fark needs a "flame-bait" tag.


I don't know; TFA doesn't seem too flamebaity to me. Neither, really, does the headline. Any two armies will have differences, and both TFA and the headline seem to have stuck to the relatively safe, inoffensive ones.
 
2012-02-13 03:13:56 PM  
The army? So what? Lets compare air force and special forces. That would honesty be interesting.
 
2012-02-13 03:16:08 PM  
That headline... I know those words but that arrangement makes no sense.
 
2012-02-13 03:16:10 PM  
Is 'tuna' code for 'Hot IDF Girls'?

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2012-02-13 03:17:17 PM  

DirkTheDaring: Is 'tuna' code for 'Hot IDF Girls'?

[img826.imageshack.us image 300x400]


Hot IDF girl thread?
Yes please!
 
2012-02-13 03:17:50 PM  
Three words:

Conflict. Of. Interest.


/Send that boy home
 
2012-02-13 03:18:54 PM  
Disposable Rob:So bascially it's the USAF.

On second thought, the USAF has even better food than the US Army. So IDF = USAF with much worse chow.
 
2012-02-13 03:18:58 PM  
had tuna for lunch so im getting a kick......

actually i eat alot of tuna.
 
2012-02-13 03:22:23 PM  

Disposable Rob: So bascially it's the USAF.


Depends. How many championship golf courses do the own?
 
2012-02-13 03:22:59 PM  
How did he manage to serve that long in a foreign army, and not lose his U.S. citizenship?
 
2012-02-13 03:23:02 PM  
Is there an hour of any day of the week where a submission involves Israel somehow where Tatsuma doesn't post right away? Dude would probably violate the sabbath to prop up Israel on fark.
 
2012-02-13 03:23:06 PM  
I know the state department is getting stricter on people letting go of American citizenship, but isn't voluntarily serving in another countries army one of those ways?
 
2012-02-13 03:23:21 PM  
Well when you spend hundreds of billions on defense every year, you better have some goddamn high quality boots.
 
2012-02-13 03:25:05 PM  
cdn.pimpmyspace.org

Since this is bound to devolve into which branch is the better one argument I'll get it rolling with one of my favorite pictures
 
2012-02-13 03:25:23 PM  
Very accurate re: the discipline.. in the US Army you aren't allowed to just indiscriminately murder defenseless brown children.

/ducks
 
2012-02-13 03:25:30 PM  

rudemix: Is there an hour of any day of the week where a submission involves Israel somehow where Tatsuma doesn't post right away? Dude would probably violate the sabbath to prop up Israel on fark.



No doubt he keeps Gentile alts on hand for just such an emergency.
 
2012-02-13 03:27:00 PM  

SpacePunk: How did he manage to serve that long in a foreign army, and not lose his U.S. citizenship?



The US' relationship with Israel is... uh... "special".
 
2012-02-13 03:27:23 PM  

Amos Quito: Three words:

Conflict. Of. Interest.


/Send that boy home


nope no conflict of interest. USA=IDF

No, really. The USA is as much of an Israeli defense force as the IDF.

They don't exist with out us.
 
2012-02-13 03:27:55 PM  

redmid17: I know the state department is getting stricter on people letting go of American citizenship, but isn't voluntarily serving in another countries army one of those ways?


Only if you INTEND on relinquishing your US citizenship at the time.

Source (new window)
 
2012-02-13 03:29:00 PM  

Amos Quito: Three words:

Conflict. Of. Interest.


/Send that boy home



And where is it that you think he lives?
 
2012-02-13 03:29:13 PM  

SpacePunk: How did he manage to serve that long in a foreign army, and not lose his U.S. citizenship?


redmid17: I know the state department is getting stricter on people letting go of American citizenship, but isn't voluntarily serving in another countries army one of those ways?


I think there is a general exception for (surprise) Israel. Both my daughters are american and israeli citizen and can serve in either force (not at the same time). But since they are not being raised in israel they are not forced to serve. I know a lot of american jew who served in the idf and were not israeli citizens. Rahm emanual did not serve in the IDF but was a senior adviser for them.
 
2012-02-13 03:29:51 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Very accurate re: the discipline.. in the US Army you aren't allowed to just indiscriminately murder defenseless brown children.

/ducks


citation needed
 
2012-02-13 03:30:34 PM  
Let him finish a full tour and get a follow up.
 
2012-02-13 03:32:47 PM  
If there's anybody who's got life figured out, it's a 20-year-old.

Just ask one.
 
2012-02-13 03:33:33 PM  

yert: SpacePunk: How did he manage to serve that long in a foreign army, and not lose his U.S. citizenship?

redmid17: I know the state department is getting stricter on people letting go of American citizenship, but isn't voluntarily serving in another countries army one of those ways?

I think there is a general exception for (surprise) Israel. Both my daughters are american and israeli citizen and can serve in either force (not at the same time). But since they are not being raised in israel they are not forced to serve. I know a lot of american jew who served in the idf and were not israeli citizens. Rahm emanual did not serve in the IDF but was a senior adviser for them.


If by senior adviser, you mean he was essentially a mechanic. I figured that Israel would be an exception.
 
2012-02-13 03:33:51 PM  

Amos Quito: Three words:

Conflict. Of. Interest.


/Send that boy home


So you want send him... Back to New York?
 
2012-02-13 03:35:52 PM  

rudemix: Is there an hour of any day of the week where a submission involves Israel somehow where Tatsuma doesn't post right away? Dude would probably violate the sabbath to prop up Israel on fark.


Actually, he doesn't. Check out an Israel thread that gets posted on a Friday afternoon sometime.
 
2012-02-13 03:36:09 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Amos Quito: Three words:

Conflict. Of. Interest.


/Send that boy home

So you want send him... Back to New York?


He's from New York? Man, what are the odds...
 
2012-02-13 03:37:20 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Satanic_Hamster: Amos Quito: Three words:

Conflict. Of. Interest.


/Send that boy home

So you want send him... Back to New York?

He's from New York? Man, what are the odds...


I'd say 100 percent if you had bothered to read the article.
 
2012-02-13 03:38:07 PM  
Houten doesn't hesitate when asked who fields the world's best army. "All in all, at the end of the day, it's going to be the U.S.," he says. "We have the technology, we have the size, and we have our Army values to live by."



Yea suck it Jews!!! Wait........oh yea
 
2012-02-13 03:38:45 PM  
What amazing timing this article has...
 
2012-02-13 03:41:47 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Very accurate re: the discipline.. in the US Army you aren't allowed to just indiscriminately murder defenseless brown children.


...
 
2012-02-13 03:44:39 PM  

proteus_b: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Very accurate re: the discipline.. in the US Army you aren't allowed to just indiscriminately murder defenseless brown children.

...


I wrote slash ducks! Don't we write slash ducks when we post an insincere, inflammatory statement? Did I misuse slash ducks?
 
2012-02-13 03:45:14 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: in the US Army you aren't allowed to just indiscriminately murder defenseless brown children.


Right. That's what the other branches are for.
 
2012-02-13 03:45:44 PM  
Darnit. Maybe we just need to give Israel a few more billion a year to take care of their boot and tuna problem.
 
2012-02-13 03:46:51 PM  
A jew in my Army? NO WAI!
 
2012-02-13 03:47:22 PM  

rudemix: Is there an hour of any day of the week where a submission involves Israel somehow where Tatsuma doesn't post right away? Dude would probably violate the sabbath to prop up Israel on fark.


Anymore, Anus Quito is present in more threads having anything to do with Israel than anyone else.
 
2012-02-13 03:47:28 PM  

yert: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Very accurate re: the discipline.. in the US Army you aren't allowed to just indiscriminately murder defenseless brown children.

/ducks

citation needed


www.unc.edu
 
2012-02-13 03:51:47 PM  
He's doing it wrong.

Only gentiles are supposed to sign up for the US military to protect Israel.

Unless he's there to steal technology.
 
2012-02-13 03:52:02 PM  

SpacePunk: How did he manage to serve that long in a foreign army, and not lose his U.S. citizenship?


It only becomes an issue if he accepts an officer's commission, I believe.
 
2012-02-13 03:53:36 PM  

harm dealer: What amazing timing this article has...


You're not suggesting what I THINK you're suggesting, are you citizen?
 
2012-02-13 03:54:15 PM  
The US Army does not teach this;
www.thebuzzmedia.com
 
2012-02-13 03:54:18 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Amos Quito: Three words:

Conflict. Of. Interest.


/Send that boy home

So you want send him... Back to New York?


Pretty sure Amos wants him sent to Dacheau, with the Wayback Machine set to 1938.

/fortunately he thinks modern-day Jerusalem is the same place and time
//don't spoil it for him, let him be surprised when the USAF begs Israel for their IDF-trained trooper back
 
2012-02-13 03:55:25 PM  

Tatterdemalian: Pretty sure Amos wants him sent to Dacheau


Is that a French concentration camp?
 
2012-02-13 03:56:04 PM  

Elminst: DirkTheDaring: Is 'tuna' code for 'Hot IDF Girls'?

[img826.imageshack.us image 300x400]

Hot IDF girl thread?
Yes please!


Came here with these exact same hopes!
 
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