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2012-02-13 01:27:15 PM
At the Senate barbershop, formally called Senate Hair Care Services, the top four barbers and stylists made more than twice that - $54,761; $70,349; $73,658; and $81,641 - plus they have a generous 401(k) plan, health care and paid vacation.

Over $80,000 plus benefits for a barber who doesn't even use his razor to slit the throats of the Senators who deserve it? WTF?
 
2012-02-13 01:44:01 PM
images.wikia.com

Knows a little somethin about gov't run barbershops.
 
2012-02-13 01:55:01 PM
The senate does not need a barber shop. Close it.
 
2012-02-13 02:14:12 PM
James!: The senate does not need a barber shop. Close it.

It's a perk. They don't get rid of perks.
 
2012-02-13 02:17:04 PM
This is one government service that I wouldn't mind privatizing.
 
2012-02-13 02:17:52 PM
Shave and a Haircut, 216 Bits.
 
2012-02-13 02:18:55 PM
ArkAngel: At the Senate barbershop, formally called Senate Hair Care Services, the top four barbers and stylists made more than twice that - $54,761; $70,349; $73,658; and $81,641 - plus they have a generous 401(k) plan, health care and paid vacation.

Over $80,000 plus benefits for a barber who doesn't even use his razor to slit the throats of the Senators who deserve it? WTF?


They get the 80k for all the sex with the closeted Republicans.
 
2012-02-13 02:19:44 PM
Arkanaut: This is one government service that I wouldn't mind privatizing.

No shiat. Have competitive bidding for the concession. WTF? this is first piece of fluff that should get line itemed.
 
2012-02-13 02:19:52 PM
scottydoesntknow: [images.wikia.com image 320x240]

Knows a little somethin about gov't run barbershops.


Win.
 
2012-02-13 02:27:39 PM
Wait, the barbers get union scale PLUS tips? Geez. If it's running into a deficit raise the rates or get rid of it.
 
2012-02-13 02:31:22 PM
There are 100 senators, and they need 4 barbers? How often are these people getting their hair cut?
 
2012-02-13 02:37:44 PM
newwars.files.wordpress.com

He only uses the tanning both.
 
2012-02-13 02:39:41 PM
ArkAngel: At the Senate barbershop, formally called Senate Hair Care Services, the top four barbers and stylists made more than twice that - $54,761; $70,349; $73,658; and $81,641 - plus they have a generous 401(k) plan, health care and paid vacation.

Over $80,000 plus benefits for a barber who doesn't even use his razor to slit the throats of the Senators who deserve it? WTF?


To be fair, bikini waxing those Senators cannot be an easy job.
Try to get that out of your minds.
 
2012-02-13 02:43:24 PM
moops: [newwars.files.wordpress.com image 640x810]

He only uses the tanning both.


No, I am *not* a female-to-male transexual. Why do you ask?
 
2012-02-13 02:47:55 PM
Today, the barbershop is open to the public and had 27,000 customers last year.

Let's take that as 27k trims, at $20 a pop... $540k.

Roughly add up the salaries, $284k, throw in the benefits and we're up to $514k.

Where's the $300k gap coming from?

I think they need to open the shop to outside bidding. Either rent the space to Pro-Cuts or Sports Clips or lease out the individual stations like they do in salons.
 
2012-02-13 02:48:32 PM
That article is satire, right? Some of those quotes just sound really fake.
 
2012-02-13 02:49:55 PM
Have these people never heard of "Super Cuts"?
 
2012-02-13 02:50:05 PM
Mr. Anon: There are 100 senators, and they need 4 barbers? How often are these people getting their hair cut?

If every Senator gets their hair cut every other week, which seems unlikely, and every haircut takes 30 minutes, which also seems unlikely... that's only 25 hours a week that the Senate is in session.

And they're staffing four people? Jeebus, the math gets bad in a hurry.
 
2012-02-13 02:51:57 PM
Okay, I normally don't have trouble with union people being paid more and having better benefits, but $80k for a barber? Seriously? And I don't care what services they offer, their clientele is old white men, so they only need to have barbers, not stylists. If they want stylists they can find one out in the free market.
 
2012-02-13 02:54:06 PM
For those of you who missed seeing the "other list" of prices for say the Dirty Sanchez (Absolutely NSFW link) and other priceless services.
 
2012-02-13 02:56:23 PM
WhackingDay: Okay, I normally don't have trouble with union people being paid more and having better benefits, but $80k for a barber? Seriously? And I don't care what services they offer, their clientele is old white men, so they only need to have barbers, not stylists. If they want stylists they can find one out in the free market.

The guys down the street make $30K. Gotta love it when socialism prevails!
 
2012-02-13 02:57:52 PM
WhackingDay: Okay, I normally don't have trouble with union people being paid more and having better benefits, but $80k for a barber? Seriously? And I don't care what services they offer, their clientele is old white men, so they only need to have barbers, not stylists. If they want stylists they can find one out in the free market.

A cosmetology license is more common than a barber license. There are far more "stylists" than there are barbers.
 
2012-02-13 03:00:14 PM
hp6sa: Mr. Anon: There are 100 senators, and they need 4 barbers? How often are these people getting their hair cut?

If every Senator gets their hair cut every other week, which seems unlikely, and every haircut takes 30 minutes, which also seems unlikely... that's only 25 hours a week that the Senate is in session.

And they're staffing four people? Jeebus, the math gets bad in a hurry.


The article says that it is open to the public and had 27,000 customers last year.

I like the idea of a Senate barbershop, but at a cost of $300,000 to the public it just seems rediculous.
 
2012-02-13 03:00:15 PM
Look! Those people in traditionally low-paying jobs are making more money than I think is appropriate! Fire them and throw them out on the street! That $300K is .0000000000001% of the deficit! It's a start!
 
2012-02-13 03:00:42 PM
I got a haircut at the House side barber shop one time. Had to wait as I got bumped for Henry Waxman. One of the worse hair cuts I've ever gotten.
 
2012-02-13 03:01:56 PM
ArkAngel: Over $80,000 plus benefits for a barber who doesn't even use his razor to slit the throats of the Senators who deserve it? WTF?

Correction: $80K plus benefits to stop the barber from using his razor to slit the throats of the Senators who deserve it.
 
2012-02-13 03:04:12 PM
grokca: To be fair, bikini waxing those Senators cannot be an easy job.
Try to get that out of your minds.


If you ask for the "Orrin's Hatch" special you get a discounted colon cleanse afterwards.
 
2012-02-13 03:07:06 PM
It is only wasted money if it goes to poor people.
 
2012-02-13 03:08:54 PM
clambam: Look! Those people in traditionally low-paying jobs are making more money than I think is appropriate! Fire them and throw them out on the street! That $300K is .0000000000001% of the deficit! It's a start!

The fact that it is a small fraction of the deficit doesn't change the fact that it is unsustainable without public funds and there isn't a reason for the government to be in the hair-cutting business anyway. With something like healthcare you can make an argument for sinking public funds into the program... what is the argument for the senate barber?

It's there for novelty and convenience. Charge appropriately so it can cover its costs or shut it down.
 
2012-02-13 03:12:02 PM
That explains why they all have the same shiatty haircut.
 
2012-02-13 03:15:53 PM
ImmaculateContraception: It's there for novelty and convenience.

Of of the things that Newt Gingrich did when he was the Speaker of the House was to stop ice delivery. It was a tradition that every day each office was delivered fresh ice in buckets. Obviously this tradition started before there was electricity, but instead of just buying an ice maker, the Capitol kept hand delivering buckets of ice, into the mid 1990s!

I think they saved like $200,000 per year on that.
 
2012-02-13 03:16:03 PM
wildcardjack: Today, the barbershop is open to the public and had 27,000 customers last year.

Let's take that as 27k trims, at $20 a pop... $540k.

Roughly add up the salaries, $284k, throw in the benefits and we're up to $514k.

Where's the $300k gap coming from?

I think they need to open the shop to outside bidding. Either rent the space to Pro-Cuts or Sports Clips or lease out the individual stations like they do in salons.


Thank you for pointing out the obvious -

It's not the salaries that are causing the gap.
 
2012-02-13 03:17:42 PM
ImmaculateContraception: The article says that it is open to the public and had 27,000 customers last year.

I like the idea of a Senate barbershop, but at a cost of $300,000 to the public it just seems rediculous.



I've got to go to the Capitol today honey, I need to get my hair cut...

/WTF
 
2012-02-13 03:21:04 PM
wildcardjack: Today, the barbershop is open to the public and had 27,000 customers last year.

Let's take that as 27k trims, at $20 a pop... $540k.

Roughly add up the salaries, $284k, throw in the benefits and we're up to $514k.

Where's the $300k gap coming from?

I think they need to open the shop to outside bidding. Either rent the space to Pro-Cuts or Sports Clips or lease out the individual stations like they do in salons.


Or do what they do on bases - charge the barbers so much an hour for the chair. Anything over that goes in their pockets.
I really miss getting a haircut on base, $4 plus tip, and unless you were an idiot and went on a weekend morning, you never spent more than 10 minutes in the shop. They were some highly motivated barbers; occassional bleeding was to be expected though.
 
2012-02-13 03:22:16 PM
clambam: Look! Those people in traditionally low-paying jobs are making more money than I think is appropriate! Fire them and throw them out on the street! That $300K is .0000000000001% of the deficit! It's a start!

Well smack me silly, somebody is actually defending this. Wow
 
2012-02-13 03:22:22 PM
ImmaculateContraception: clambam: Look! Those people in traditionally low-paying jobs are making more money than I think is appropriate! Fire them and throw them out on the street! That $300K is .0000000000001% of the deficit! It's a start!

The fact that it is a small fraction of the deficit doesn't change the fact that it is unsustainable without public funds and there isn't a reason for the government to be in the hair-cutting business anyway. With something like healthcare you can make an argument for sinking public funds into the program... what is the argument for the senate barber?

It's there for novelty and convenience. Charge appropriately so it can cover its costs or shut it down.


See, this is a major problem in this country. Politicians get absolutely shiat on. There's no possibility of a politician actually getting any credit whatsoever for doing anything good. Do something bad? You get shiat on. Do something good? You get shiat on. Have a fringe benefit like cheap haircuts? You get shiat on. Airdrop millions of dollars into the desert so they disappear? You get shiat on. And there's no difference in magnitude in the shiatting. Doesn't matter what they do, it's all the same shiat.

I mean, look at this. You're seriously biatching about the Senate barber and framing it in exactly the same terms as trillions in wasteful defense spending. People want to know why lobbyists have so much influence? They're the only voices politicians can hear against the white noise. SOPA/PIPA was successfully backed down because, for once, there was a concrete and largely unified statement being made.

"Politicians are wholly evil, crooked and corrupt without exception!" is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
 
2012-02-13 03:28:39 PM
All of you suggesting "Super Cuts" have no clue.

I gladly pay more to go to the local barber and his shop. He isn't offering some $12 "hair cut" that looks like crap. Plus, he still uses cream & straight-razor to make things neat at the end.

So we want our representatives to look trashy, get paid peanuts, and open up a Super Cuts in favor of tried-and-true barbers because they cost a bit more? We are the United States of America, lets not give a fark about this. We have bigger fish.
 
2012-02-13 03:31:42 PM
Why shouldn't they enjoy this perk? The American House of Lords DOES actually rule this country, despite all the distractions to the contrary. Trace the family trees back through the US Senate and it looks a lot like the Tories never left.

leedsucu.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-02-13 03:33:04 PM
There's a hole in the world like a great black pit
And the vermin of the world inhabit it
And its morals aren't worth what a pig could spit
And it goes by the name of Congress.
 
2012-02-13 03:33:43 PM
moralpanic: clambam: Look! Those people in traditionally low-paying jobs are making more money than I think is appropriate! Fire them and throw them out on the street! That $300K is .0000000000001% of the deficit! It's a start!

Well smack me silly, somebody is actually defending this. Wow


I am neither defending nor attacking it. I am objecting to the attitude that says "Ignore the banksters making billions of dollars a year and paying 13% taxes on it. Here are four barbers making more money than I think they should. BURN THEM!" I am objecting to the attitude that says it's worthwhile defunding NPR, even though it's a trivial percentage of the deficit, because "it's a start," but there's no point in raising taxes on the wealthy because it would fail to immediately eliminate the deficit. I am objecting to the attitude that points out the mote in others' eyes while ignoring the beam in their own. In the final analysis, indignation over excessive barber salaries while giving "job creators" a pass on their million dollar salaries is both the grossest hypocrisy and yet another loathsome attack by the powerful upon the weak.
 
2012-02-13 03:34:54 PM
 
2012-02-13 03:36:53 PM
Captain_Ballbeard: Why shouldn't they enjoy this perk? The American House of Lords DOES actually rule this country, despite all the distractions to the contrary. Trace the family trees back through the US Senate and it looks a lot like the Tories never left.

[leedsucu.files.wordpress.com image 320x240]


barackobamabiography.org

At the very least, dad's side of the family never had anyone in Parliament
 
2012-02-13 03:41:03 PM
HellRaisingHoosier: All of you suggesting "Super Cuts" have no clue.

I gladly pay more to go to the local barber and his shop. He isn't offering some $12 "hair cut" that looks like crap. Plus, he still uses cream & straight-razor to make things neat at the end.

So we want our representatives to look trashy, get paid peanuts, and open up a Super Cuts in favor of tried-and-true barbers because they cost a bit more? We are the United States of America, lets not give a fark about this. We have bigger fish.


80k. Your argument means nothing.
 
2012-02-13 03:43:55 PM
Karac: At the very least, dad's side of the family never had anyone in Parliament

newsimg.bbc.co.uk
kenyaparliament203.jpg

Sure about that?
 
2012-02-13 03:54:48 PM
Karac: Captain_Ballbeard: Why shouldn't they enjoy this perk? The American House of Lords DOES actually rule this country, despite all the distractions to the contrary. Trace the family trees back through the US Senate and it looks a lot like the Tories never left.

[leedsucu.files.wordpress.com image 320x240]

[barackobamabiography.org image 350x414]

At the very least, dad's side of the family never had anyone in Parliament


images.picturesdepot.com

Sure about that?
 
2012-02-13 03:59:36 PM
The salaries and stuff as such aren't all that outrageous, really, a high-end barbershop can easily float salaries on the order of 100k$ with benefits (albeit pension is a weird thing to get for a stylist). But this needs to be a private business that's allowed to rent space in the building, not actually a government-funded anything.

Same goes for any restaurants, lodging for senators, etc that's currently coming out of the government's pocket. We have an obligation to house and serve foreign officials and non-government people called in to testify, paying for "perks" like hair care, food, and lodging for actual government officials/workers is called their salary. They don't merit special perks for being there because being there is explicitly their entire job, for which they are well-paid.
 
2012-02-13 04:03:37 PM
Karac: wildcardjack: Today, the barbershop is open to the public and had 27,000 customers last year.

Let's take that as 27k trims, at $20 a pop... $540k.

Roughly add up the salaries, $284k, throw in the benefits and we're up to $514k.

Where's the $300k gap coming from?

I think they need to open the shop to outside bidding. Either rent the space to Pro-Cuts or Sports Clips or lease out the individual stations like they do in salons.

Or do what they do on bases - charge the barbers so much an hour for the chair. Anything over that goes in their pockets.
I really miss getting a haircut on base, $4 plus tip, and unless you were an idiot and went on a weekend morning, you never spent more than 10 minutes in the shop. They were some highly motivated barbers; occassional bleeding was to be expected though.


I had no idea AAFES ran their barbershops like strip clubs. Huh.
 
2012-02-13 04:05:30 PM
Reminds me of the House Banking scandal. Gingrich was involved with that also.
 
2012-02-13 04:09:59 PM
TwistedFark: wildcardjack: Today, the barbershop is open to the public and had 27,000 customers last year.

Let's take that as 27k trims, at $20 a pop... $540k.

Roughly add up the salaries, $284k, throw in the benefits and we're up to $514k.

Where's the $300k gap coming from?

I think they need to open the shop to outside bidding. Either rent the space to Pro-Cuts or Sports Clips or lease out the individual stations like they do in salons.

Thank you for pointing out the obvious -

It's not the salaries that are causing the gap.


And if it's not the salaries causing the gap, then the cost has to be utilities and/or the physical part of the building itself. Closing it down or bringing in Great Clips doesn't actually save money
 
2012-02-13 04:15:04 PM
HellRaisingHoosier: All of you suggesting "Super Cuts" have no clue. I gladly pay more to go to the local barber and his shop. He isn't offering some $12 "hair cut" that looks like crap. Plus, he still uses cream & straight-razor to make things neat at the end.

For years I went to a hairstylist who was a friend of mine, and paid her $30 (including tip) for a haircut that generally took about 45 minutes to produce. Now I go to "Super Cuts" and pay $12 (including tip) for a haircut that generally takes about 10 minutes, and is indistinguishable from the $30 version. I would say that unless you have an unusually complex hairstyle, you're better served going with the cheapie.
 
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