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(Some Guy) Interesting If it ever occured to you wonder "Who invented 5-hour Energy?". I'd be willing to bet your first answer wouldn't have been "A billionaire Buhddist monk"   (dailytimes.com.pk) divider line 74
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2012-02-13 11:10:03 AM
He wasn't part of any order or (from what they said in the article) taken any vows, so he's not a Buddhist monk.

Buddhist? Sure. Monk? No.

But that's still interesting.
 
2012-02-13 11:20:09 AM
Bill Murray invented 5-Hour Energy? Huh. That seems like something he'd do.
 
2012-02-13 11:29:14 AM
better article Forbes:The Mystery Monk Making Billions With 5-Hour Energy (new window)

pretty interesting read
 
2012-02-13 11:46:06 AM
FTA:
(I put "monk" in quotes because Bhargava tells Forbes there's no real word in English language to exactly capture what he and his fellow devotees were doing, instead likening it more to a commune, minus the drugs.)

He was a lay disciple. He wasn't a monk in any respect.
 
2012-02-13 11:59:28 AM
Not terribly unlike the history of Red Bull, in fact.
 
2012-02-13 12:26:40 PM
Wait, was he a billionaire before or after he started selling it?
 
2012-02-13 12:27:38 PM
RexTalionis: FTA:
(I put "monk" in quotes because Bhargava tells Forbes there's no real word in English language to exactly capture what he and his fellow devotees were doing, instead likening it more to a commune, minus the drugs.)

He was a lay disciple. He wasn't a monk in any respect.


Maybe a "dedicant" or strict adherent would be better terms.
 
2012-02-13 12:39:11 PM
RexTalionis: FTA:
(I put "monk" in quotes because Bhargava tells Forbes there's no real word in English language to exactly capture what he and his fellow devotees were doing, instead likening it more to a commune, minus the drugs.)

He was a lay disciple. He wasn't a monk in any respect.


Sounds like the Buhddist equivalent of a "third order religious" that several Catholic monastic orders have. Third orders take some of the vows of the order but are also able to marry, have kids etc.
 
2012-02-13 01:58:15 PM
Now I'm even more puzzled regarding the production quality, or lack thereof, in the commercials.
 
2012-02-13 01:58:39 PM
Stupid Flanders...
 
2012-02-13 02:00:27 PM
What is the sound of one hand shaking from too much caffeine?
 
2012-02-13 02:00:52 PM
The basis of 5 Hour Energy is believing that it will work, not unlike a religion.

/Bullshiat placebo.
 
2012-02-13 02:02:46 PM
Is this where we make fun of the grammatically-challenged headline?
 
2012-02-13 02:02:50 PM
So he came up with the idea of taking a normal energy drink and sucking all of the liquid out of it leaving only a syrup that tastes like cough medicine?
 
2012-02-13 02:02:56 PM
That shiat tastes like shiat.
 
2012-02-13 02:04:30 PM
A real buddhist, or a western 'buddhist because it's an in-thing to do' buddhist?
 
2012-02-13 02:04:32 PM
Proving yet again, if it tastes like shiat, it must be good for you?

/seriously; BLECH.

tricycleracer: The basis of 5 Hour Energy is believing that it will work, not unlike a religion.

/Bullshiat placebo.


Also, ^THIS.
 
2012-02-13 02:05:50 PM
ExperianScaresCthulhu: A real buddhist, or a western 'buddhist because it's an in-thing to do' buddhist?

FTA:

Bhargava was born in India, but his parents moved to the United States when he was a child so his father could pursue a career in the plastics industry. After dropping out of college after one year, Bhargava returned to India, where he became a member of the Hanslok Ashram order and lived the lifestyle of a Buddhist "monk" for 12 years.
 
2012-02-13 02:06:33 PM
He lived in a commune, according to TFA.

Wouldnt that make him technically a communist?


(Why are we having this semantics debate, again?)
 
2012-02-13 02:09:15 PM
PsiChi: Is this where we make fun of the grammatically-challenged headline?

Is this where we point out the irony of those who make fun of bad grammar while using improperly hyphenated ly adverbs?
 
2012-02-13 02:09:37 PM
tricycleracer: The basis of 5 Hour Energy is believing that it will work, not unlike a religion.

/Bullshiat placebo.


Meh, I'll grab one from time to time and whether it works or I only believe it works, fact is they allow me to stay alert and woke longer than I would be able to if I did not take it.
 
2012-02-13 02:10:23 PM
Is he the one who sold his Ferrari?
 
2012-02-13 02:11:03 PM
tricycleracer: The basis of 5 Hour Energy is believing that it will work, not unlike a religion.

/Bullshiat placebo.


This. I was amused when I started reading the thread and saw that most people were arguing whether or not he is Buddhist, rather than whether or not that crap is remotely effective. As for the Buddhist thing: saying this guy is a monk is like saying someone who goes to church is a priest.

Anyhow, 5 hour energy is silly. It's fun talking to people who think it actually works, though. "Well, it works for me." It's like that episode of the Beverly Hillbillies from way back in the day when grandma Clampet claimed to have a cure for the common cold. It was this horrible tasting elixir. After you drank it, your cold would go away after a week of bed rest and plenty of fluids.
 
2012-02-13 02:15:20 PM
DROxINxTHExWIND: tricycleracer: The basis of 5 Hour Energy is believing that it will work, not unlike a religion.

/Bullshiat placebo.

Meh, I'll grab one from time to time and whether it works or I only believe it works, fact is they allow me to stay alert and woke longer than I would be able to if I did not take it.


Caffeine is caffeine, no matter what you 'blend' it with.
 
2012-02-13 02:15:53 PM
Lando Lincoln: Bill Murray invented 5-Hour Energy? Huh. That seems like something he'd do.

And he gets to receive total consciousness on his deathbed. Lucky bastard.
 
2012-02-13 02:16:48 PM
ExperianScaresCthulhu: A real buddhist, or a western 'buddhist because it's an in-thing to do' buddhist?

Yeah, the "in thing to do" for a Western Buddhist is go live in a Buddhist commune in India for 12 years.

I wonder how many Western Christians have gone to the Middle East and spent 12 years in a similar place.

I guess their not "real" Christians.
 
2012-02-13 02:25:07 PM
Why are the worst sorts of con-men and shysters from Michigan? I just don't get it. Spammers, Michigan. Amway? Michigan. Blackwater? Michigan.

Now this guy. Is it some kind of natural balance? Beautiful countryside breeds utter assholes?
 
2012-02-13 02:26:01 PM
Mr Guy: DROxINxTHExWIND: tricycleracer: The basis of 5 Hour Energy is believing that it will work, not unlike a religion.

/Bullshiat placebo.

Meh, I'll grab one from time to time and whether it works or I only believe it works, fact is they allow me to stay alert and woke longer than I would be able to if I did not take it.

Caffeine is caffeine, no matter what you 'blend' it with.


It gets even better, 5 hour total placebo.

www.5hourenergy.com
 
2012-02-13 02:26:32 PM
Subby:

suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com
 
2012-02-13 02:26:56 PM
Ugh. I tried one of those once. Yeah, I had "energy" for 5 hours, but after that I felt like absolute crap and couldn't sleep for 48 hours.
 
2012-02-13 02:27:28 PM
Mr Guy: Caffeine is caffeine, no matter what you 'blend' it with.

Agreed, which makes it not a placebo.
 
2012-02-13 02:30:50 PM
There are only 3 additives proven to be effective in beverages: alcohol, sugar, and caffeine. Everything else is advertising BS.
 
2012-02-13 02:32:19 PM
Any jealously or eagerness to cut him down just shows how much of your spiritual belief is based in ego.

This guy spent 12 years living with Buddhists in India. If he was putting on an act he'd just own a few coffee table books on Buddhism and call himself an expert. Like you do.
 
2012-02-13 02:34:04 PM
Lionel Mandrake: ExperianScaresCthulhu: A real buddhist, or a western 'buddhist because it's an in-thing to do' buddhist?

Yeah, the "in thing to do" for a Western Buddhist is go live in a Buddhist commune in India for 12 years.

I wonder how many Western Christians have gone to the Middle East and spent 12 years in a similar place.

I guess their not "real" Christians.


But what about their real Christians? Or did the lions get into the stock, and there's none left? I guess they're out of luck.
 
2012-02-13 02:35:33 PM
did it ever occur to you that potato chips where invented my a monk, he became to be known as the Chip Monk... true story
 
2012-02-13 02:36:22 PM
ISO15693: He lived in a commune, according to TFA.

Wouldnt that make him technically a communist?


No more than living in a republic makes you a Republican.
 
2012-02-13 02:43:42 PM
WinoRhino: Anyhow, 5 hour energy is silly. It's fun talking to people who think it actually works, though. "Well, it works for me." It's like that episode of the Beverly Hillbillies from way back in the day when grandma Clampet claimed to have a cure for the common cold. It was this horrible tasting elixir. After you drank it, your cold would go away after a week of bed rest and plenty of fluids.

So you're saying that Caffeine isn't really a stimulant? I'm pretty sure that's the active ingredient in 5 Hour Energy.
 
2012-02-13 02:47:10 PM
shivashakti: He wasn't part of any order or (from what they said in the article) taken any vows, so he's not a Buddhist monk.

Buddhist? Sure. Monk? No.

But that's still interesting.


A lot of Buddhists are educated by the monks. They may serve some time as novices without becoming monks. Perhaps this lead to the confusion or perhaps it was just journalistic Fark-mongering.

As in Medieval Europe, many older people of both sexes in Buddhist and Hindu communities join religious orders when they are past child-rearing age. This is sort of a pre-welfare state version of the retirement community--a largish donation to the monastery helps to ensure the welfare of the new members in much the same way that large payments to a senior citizen's home or community helps to ensure the good treatment of the clients. If you look into the historical details, you often find that former times were as sophisticated as we are, although their solutions to problems might be slightly different.

In Europe, couples or other family members would often join a monastery and a convent near each other and twinned, so to speak, to be near each other and possibly communicate if their superiors allowed it, in writing or by the occasional visit in the parlour (which means "speaking room") of the convent or monastery.
 
2012-02-13 02:47:23 PM
I May Be Crazy But...: Lionel Mandrake: ExperianScaresCthulhu: A real buddhist, or a western 'buddhist because it's an in-thing to do' buddhist?

Yeah, the "in thing to do" for a Western Buddhist is go live in a Buddhist commune in India for 12 years.

I wonder how many Western Christians have gone to the Middle East and spent 12 years in a similar place.

I guess their not "real" Christians.

But what about their real Christians? Or did the lions get into the stock, and there's none left? I guess they're out of luck.


A grammar Nazi. How adorable. God forbid someone makes a typo on FARK...the ghost of William Safire will skewer him with sharp witticisms.
 
2012-02-13 02:49:25 PM
Aw, subby would be my first answer? I'm confused.
 
2012-02-13 02:53:19 PM
codinghorror.typepad.com

Well that sounds like a great idea, until someone invents 6 Hour Energy.
 
2012-02-13 02:53:40 PM
It has no noticeable effect on me and is wildly overpriced.
 
2012-02-13 02:56:23 PM
CoonAce: There are only 3 additives proven to be effective in beverages: alcohol, sugar, and caffeine. Everything else is advertising BS.

You can't suspend amphetamines in a beverage?
 
2012-02-13 02:56:57 PM
ShawnDoc: So you're saying that Caffeine isn't really a stimulant? I'm pretty sure that's the active ingredient in 5 Hour Energy.

Sure. But talk to people who swear by it. They won't mention the caffeine. They'll start with stuff like "the B vitamins" and other crap that doesn't do jack shiat. Then they'll tell you it works better than coffee. Those are the people I am referring to.
 
2012-02-13 03:01:03 PM
It's as effective as a drop of liquid b-vitamin supplement and a scoop of instant coffee, but costs 4 times as much. Oh the price of convenience.
 
2012-02-13 03:01:43 PM
wingnut396: CoonAce: There are only 3 additives proven to be effective in beverages: alcohol, sugar, and caffeine. Everything else is advertising BS.

You can't suspend amphetamines in a beverage?


Bet your ass! Can't sell it OTC to minors though.
 
2012-02-13 03:07:14 PM
CoonAce: wingnut396: CoonAce: There are only 3 additives proven to be effective in beverages: alcohol, sugar, and caffeine. Everything else is advertising BS.

You can't suspend amphetamines in a beverage?

Bet your ass! Can't sell it OTC to minors though.


All the sugar really does it make it taste less bad. You can sell cough syrup OTC to minors though, so I think it should replace sugar in your list.
 
2012-02-13 03:08:53 PM
WinoRhino: ShawnDoc: So you're saying that Caffeine isn't really a stimulant? I'm pretty sure that's the active ingredient in 5 Hour Energy.

Sure. But talk to people who swear by it. They won't mention the caffeine. They'll start with stuff like "the B vitamins" and other crap that doesn't do jack shiat. Then they'll tell you it works better than coffee. Those are the people I am referring to.


Yeah, there's not enough caffeine in there to jack you up for 5 hours. 16oz Red Bulls don't jack me up for 5 hours.
 
2012-02-13 03:15:44 PM
brantgoose: A lot of Buddhists are educated by the monks.

As he points out in the article, and something that proves to me he knows more than your average western city kid, is that the English word "monk" doesn't describe what any Buddhists are. The main label they have is Bhikkhu, which means beggar, but he understandably doesn't want to say that, either. Buddhists are actually frowned upon in many of these cultures, and not revered at all like the word monk insinuates.
 
2012-02-13 03:29:01 PM
tricycleracer: WinoRhino: ShawnDoc: So you're saying that Caffeine isn't really a stimulant? I'm pretty sure that's the active ingredient in 5 Hour Energy.

Sure. But talk to people who swear by it. They won't mention the caffeine. They'll start with stuff like "the B vitamins" and other crap that doesn't do jack shiat. Then they'll tell you it works better than coffee. Those are the people I am referring to.

Yeah, there's not enough caffeine in there to jack you up for 5 hours. 16oz Red Bulls don't jack me up for 5 hours.


Neither will a 5 hour energy. It'll work if you use the caffeine to kick start your metabolism, and you'll just feel a little jittery if you take it and sit around. You're arguably better off drinking a large glass of water and doing some light calisthenics to wake up.
 
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