InfernalCatfish: Leader O'Cola: Yeh, really metal to wear a (ex)metal band's tshirt while making a living playing lamestream rock.

Yep, called it.

InfernalCatfish: Exactly. It's not worth talking to LOC about metal, though. He'll just talk about how Slayer and anyone else you actually heard of sucks and that his crappy obscure black-death-core-speed metal band that you never heard of is WAY better.

lame troll is lame.
core sucks, as does your post
the comment about slayer has nothing to do with people having heard of them, it has to do with the fact they sold out big time.

HERO TAG???

What is Heroic about a bunch of elitists deciding what is good music?

Woot_Gawd: HERO TAG???

What is Heroic about a bunch of elitists deciding what is good music?



The Heroes Three

Leader O'Cola: lame troll is lame.
core sucks, as does your post
the comment about slayer has nothing to do with people having heard of them, it has to do with the fact they sold out big time.

So LOC actually calls me a troll and says Slayer sold out in the same post. Yep, keep being hilarious!

InfernalCatfish: Leader O'Cola: lame troll is lame.
core sucks, as does your post
the comment about slayer has nothing to do with people having heard of them, it has to do with the fact they sold out big time.

So LOC actually calls me a troll and says Slayer sold out in the same post. Yep, keep being hilarious!


So you live in some Fringe-esque alternative universe where Diabolous in Musica and God Hates Us All don't exist as they do here?

I think Whitney killed herself when she heard who all was nominated for the Grammys.

Leader O'Cola: So you live in some Fringe-esque alternative universe where Diabolous in Musica and God Hates Us All don't exist as they do here?

So if you don't like an album, that means the band sold out? Talk about "alternative universe."

InfernalCatfish: Leader O'Cola: So you live in some Fringe-esque alternative universe where Diabolous in Musica and God Hates Us All don't exist as they do here?

So if you don't like an album, that means the band sold out? Talk about "alternative universe."

Let me clarify. I really hate the way the phrase "sold out" is misused, especially in music discussions. Making an album that some, or even many, fans of a particular act don't like does not constitute a "sell out." It constitutes making a bad album. Now, you could definitely argue that Metallica sold out, but not because they made the Black Album. It would be because of their turning on their fans in the whole Napster issue. Making bad albums does not mean someone sold out!

I'm assuming the Hero tag is for the stage crew that somehow managed to build a structure strong enough to hold Adele?

/Grammy's - the biggest "who gives a shiat?" award since world's greatest grandpa

InfernalCatfish: InfernalCatfish: Leader O'Cola: So you live in some Fringe-esque alternative universe where Diabolous in Musica and God Hates Us All don't exist as they do here?

So if you don't like an album, that means the band sold out? Talk about "alternative universe."

Let me clarify. I really hate the way the phrase "sold out" is misused, especially in music discussions. Making an album that some, or even many, fans of a particular act don't like does not constitute a "sell out." It constitutes making a bad album. Now, you could definitely argue that Metallica sold out, but not because they made the Black Album. It would be because of their turning on their fans in the whole Napster issue. Making bad albums does not mean someone sold out!


It has nothing to do with not liking it or it being bad.

Selling out exactly has to do with shifting the entire style abruptly to adopt to the en vogue bandwagon trend to make more $.

InfernalCatfish: InfernalCatfish: Leader O'Cola: So you live in some Fringe-esque alternative universe where Diabolous in Musica and God Hates Us All don't exist as they do here?

So if you don't like an album, that means the band sold out? Talk about "alternative universe."

Let me clarify. I really hate the way the phrase "sold out" is misused, especially in music discussions. Making an album that some, or even many, fans of a particular act don't like does not constitute a "sell out." It constitutes making a bad album. Now, you could definitely argue that Metallica sold out, but not because they made the Black Album. It would be because of their turning on their fans in the whole Napster issue. Making bad albums does not mean someone sold out!

Agreed.

But there is a line of the quality of music that can define a sell out at some point, right? Say Napster never happened for Metallica, and they churned out their rock albums, be it metal or alt rock....then they hit us with Lou Lou, is that selling out, or just crapping out an album and just using their name to sell it?

FTFA: "Sir Paul McCartney...was joined by musicians including Dave Grohl of Foo Fighters and Bruce Springsteen during a medley of his hits."

"medley of his hits"...?

...only his complete contribution to the second half of side two of Abbey Road.

/showed 'em how it's done
//rocked them off his lawn
///but obviously a huuuuge Adele fan, too

Aren't the Foo Fighters AIDS deniers or something?

FinFangFark: But there is a line of the quality of music that can define a sell out at some point, right? Say Napster never happened for Metallica, and they churned out their rock albums, be it metal or alt rock....then they hit us with Lou Lou, is that selling out, or just crapping out an album and just using their name to sell it?

The second one. My argument is that it was ALWAYS the goal of Metallica, Slayer, and just about every other band in existence to make it big and gain a ton of fans and money. True, Lulu really REALLY stretches it, but even Metallica says that it's not really a Metallica album and more of an experiment, and I don't fault bands because they experiment, even if I hate the result.

Leader O'Cola: Selling out exactly has to do with shifting the entire style abruptly to adopt to the en vogue bandwagon trend to make more $.

Except music is not just art. It's a product. If they wanted to try and make an album that sounds different to see if the fans would approve of it (and buy the album), then so what? They made the albums you list, the fans told them they suck (both with their words and their wallets), and Slayer moved on. Sorry, but I just can't fault them for that. Same for Metallica and Black, (Re)Load, and especially St. Anger.

solokumba: who cares
shameless and the walking dead were on last night

How was Walking Dead? Another 2 hour premier with 45 minutes of commercial time?

MugzyBrown: Foo's music is fun, but their lyrics are pretty crappy.

But better them winning than other options.

I wish M&Sons got one.

Me too. But last year was a much bigger year for them. Hopefully next year they'll clean up the awards with their new album.

bluenote13: James Scameron: Playlist:


Dave McGrohl and McWings:
Bland on the Run
Things over America
Blam
McGrohl 2
Penis and Mars


zzzzzzzz...

the only thing missing from a Nirvana reunion is two more Courtney Loves.

one down, two to go

wow...so clever. Someone on the internet who hates the Foo Fighters. Line forms to the left, hipster douchbag. Sorry some random obscure band that no one knows about or that will around in a year is not performing on the Grammys or winning awards...but there is probably a reason.

awwww poor baby... did your mommy make you take out the trash again today when you were busy posting about how much you hate Skrillex so in true Aristotelian fashion, now everyone likes Skrillex?

so yeah. you lose on the hipster quip but you make up for it in your inability to spell "douchebag" you shining example of stupid you...

actually, there's nothing hipster about me...but like most things under the sun, you wouldn't know.
I've also probably been at more Scream and Nirvana shows than you have. (just as wild a guess as yours, but not anywhere near as stupid..)

Dave Grohl is a tired old woman who needs to do something like play with QOTSA again and retire the Pooh Bighters... it's the same record over and over and over.....
The Paul McCartney reference was sarcasm...

the Doughboys did it way better than the Pooh Bighters do anyway.... if you are such a big fanboy, you should buy their albums and see where Grohl stole his whole post Nerdvana schtick from..

now it's time to crank up some FEAR, follow that up with some Dez era Black Flag and laugh at your abject stupidity....might even follow it up with some Kennedy's...

ya know..REAL punk rawk not MALL punk rock like the Bighters...

and yeah...you lose. and it was clever..unlike...you

go get your shine box...

Mohorovicic: Dave Grohl is a excellent drummer (Nirvana, QOTSA Songs for the Deaf), but Foo Fighters have no soul. Their music is hollow and completely unremarkable. I think he needs more drugs or something...

this

Crewmannumber6: Poison: Crewmannumber6: A couple winners (and one loser) that may have been overlooked last night, that matter to me.

Best Comedy Album: Hilarious - Louis Ck>.
Best Blues Album: Revelator - Tedeschi Trucks Band
Best Americana Album: Ramblin At The Ryman - Levon Helm Band, although Harrow and the Harvest by Gillian Welch is amazing

I would have liked to have seen Rock n Roll Part from Jeff Beck win, but there was no way the troglodytes were gonna vote for that over the Foo Fighters

Going to You Tube now to search for Tedeschi Trucks Band. Levon Helm is farking awesome still-glad he won. And Gillian Welch is great as well. But instead of seeing any of them perform, we got the musical abortion that was Nicki Whatever her last name is. Thanks Grammies.

2 Standouts rom Revelator
Link (Learn How To Love)
Link (Bound For Glory)

Excellent. I have a new band to follow. Thanks for posting.

Didn't watch.

Can someone tell me how many awards The Donnas won?

InfernalCatfish: PluckYew:The metal emoticon leads me to think he's referring to the Slayer t-shirt Dave is wearing. I could be wrong tho

Exactly. It's not worth talking to LOC about metal, though. He'll just talk about how Slayer and anyone else you actually heard of sucks and that his crappy obscure black-death-core-speed metal band that you never heard of is WAY better.

Isn't that how Fark, or any comments section works? There is always that group of people that will find the most obscure, irrelevant band/movie/book and claim it is the best?

Mohorovicic: Dave Grohl is a excellent drummer (Nirvana, QOTSA Songs for the Deaf), but Foo Fighters have no soul. Their music is hollow and completely unremarkable.

Thus making them a perfect candidate to win a Grammy for best rock whatever...

Crewmannumber6: Poison: Crewmannumber6: A couple winners (and one loser) that may have been overlooked last night, that matter to me.

Best Comedy Album: Hilarious - Louis Ck>.
Best Blues Album: Revelator - Tedeschi Trucks Band
Best Americana Album: Ramblin At The Ryman - Levon Helm Band, although Harrow and the Harvest by Gillian Welch is amazing

I would have liked to have seen Rock n Roll Part from Jeff Beck win, but there was no way the troglodytes were gonna vote for that over the Foo Fighters

Going to You Tube now to search for Tedeschi Trucks Band. Levon Helm is farking awesome still-glad he won. And Gillian Welch is great as well. But instead of seeing any of them perform, we got the musical abortion that was Nicki Whatever her last name is. Thanks Grammies.

2 Standouts rom Revelator
Link (Learn How To Love)
Link (Bound For Glory)

Digging the music, but I don't like the vocals, don't know why. Maybe I prefer my blues sung by old black men...

People, no one is mentioning the biggest victim here - Katy Perry. That other lip-syncing attention whore totally attention-whore-blocked Katy's lip-syncing attention whoring.

James Scameron: bluenote13: James Scameron: Playlist:


Dave McGrohl and McWings:
Bland on the Run
Things over America
Blam
McGrohl 2
Penis and Mars


zzzzzzzz...

the only thing missing from a Nirvana reunion is two more Courtney Loves.

one down, two to go

wow...so clever. Someone on the internet who hates the Foo Fighters. Line forms to the left, hipster douchbag. Sorry some random obscure band that no one knows about or that will around in a year is not performing on the Grammys or winning awards...but there is probably a reason.

awwww poor baby... did your mommy make you take out the trash again today when you were busy posting about how much you hate Skrillex so in true Aristotelian fashion, now everyone likes Skrillex?

so yeah. you lose on the hipster quip but you make up for it in your inability to spell "douchebag" you shining example of stupid you...

actually, there's nothing hipster about me...but like most things under the sun, you wouldn't know.
I've also probably been at more Scream and Nirvana shows than you have. (just as wild a guess as yours, but not anywhere near as stupid..)

Dave Grohl is a tired old woman who needs to do something like play with QOTSA again and retire the Pooh Bighters... it's the same record over and over and over.....
The Paul McCartney reference was sarcasm...

the Doughboys did it way better than the Pooh Bighters do anyway.... if you are such a big fanboy, you should buy their albums and see where Grohl stole his whole post Nerdvana schtick from..

now it's time to crank up some FEAR, follow that up with some Dez era Black Flag and laugh at your abject stupidity....might even follow it up with some Kennedy's...

ya know..REAL punk rawk not MALL punk rock like the Bighters...

and yeah...you lose. and it was clever..unlike...you

go get your shine box...

yawn..the tired old 'I must be better than you because I can name some 80's and 90's bands' comment. Hey look I can name some too: Chrome, Monoshock, Mission of Burma. I am cool now right? It is so old it is almost back in style.

I don't ever recall Grohl, or anyone in the band, claiming to be some punk rock underground band. In fact, in almost every interview Grohl claims to be one of the last rock bands, and seems genuinely surprised that shows like the Grammys know what real rock bands look like.

Music awards given to people who cannot sing or play an instrument, meanwhile, Etta James, Jani Lane, and Don Cornelius got ignored in the death montage. Plenty of time for Chris Brown though.

I don't know what is more insulting and worthless, the Grammys or the Hall of Fame.

bungle_jr: TimeWaste: I really enjoyed Grohl's speech on what good music is.

qft!

recorded one of their better albums of their career in his garage with mics and a tape recorder

no you didn't.

STRYPERSWINE: Music awards given to people who cannot sing or play an instrument, meanwhile, Etta James, Jani Lane, and Don Cornelius got ignored in the death montage. Plenty of time for Chris Brown though.

I don't know what is more insulting and worthless, the Grammys or the Hall of Fame.

I would say the Grammy's because they lost any credibility the year they game 'Aqualung' Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance over Metallica. Except the HOF actively refuses to induct Rush. So, it is kind of a toss up.

Genju: solokumba: who cares
shameless and the walking dead were on last night

How was Walking Dead? Another 2 hour premier with 45 minutes of commercial time?

not bad actually
and i TiVo everything so i can skip the commercials

James Scameron: bungle_jr: TimeWaste: I really enjoyed Grohl's speech on what good music is.

qft!

recorded one of their better albums of their career in his garage with mics and a tape recorder

no you didn't.

what didn't i not do?

Oh the irony.
Foo Fighter Acceptance: Thanks so much, this was about making real music without a ton of synthesizers and computers

Grammy Awards as Foo Fighters walk off stage: Plays supersynthesized LMFAO

Woot_Gawd: HERO TAG???

What is Heroic about a bunch of elitists deciding what is good music?

There goes my hero,
Watch him as he goes

For those too young to understand the use of the Hero tag for this headline

InfernalCatfish: The second one. My argument is that it was ALWAYS the goal of Metallica, Slayer, and just about every other band in existence to make it big and gain a ton of fans and money. True, Lulu really REALLY stretches it, but even Metallica says that it's not really a Metallica album and more of an experiment, and I don't fault bands because they experiment, even if I hate the result.

Lulu?

brb

back

OMG WHAT THE FARK???

quiotu: Sorry, but... do you think someone in Foo Fighters wearing a Slayer shirt makes him hardcore? Slayer refused to tour with Slipknot because they thought they were too soft. The members of Slayer would curbstomp Foo Fighters for wearing their shirt.

No, it makes Dave a Slayer fan who wanted to represent metal at an event dominated by pop crap. Only jackasses try to out-"hardcore" each other. Some of us just love the music and approve of actions like this.

bungle_jr: James Scameron: bungle_jr: TimeWaste: I really enjoyed Grohl's speech on what good music is.

qft!

recorded one of their better albums of their career in his garage with mics and a tape recorder

no you didn't.

what didn't i not do?

You obviously didn't enjoy Dave's speech since he knows your preference better than you do. Quit trying to be all hip and joining in on the Foo Fighters while they're some new, cool band! You crazy bandwagoner...

/For reals, i don't understand why Arlandria isn't a single

Time Traveling Bunnies: bungle_jr: James Scameron: bungle_jr: TimeWaste: I really enjoyed Grohl's speech on what good music is.

qft!

recorded one of their better albums of their career in his garage with mics and a tape recorder

no you didn't.

what didn't i not do?

You obviously didn't enjoy Dave's speech since he knows your preference better than you do. Quit trying to be all hip and joining in on the Foo Fighters while they're some new, cool band! You crazy bandwagoner...

/For reals, i don't understand why Arlandria isn't a single

well now i'm more confused than before. anyone care to explain?

bungle_jr: well now i'm more confused than before. anyone care to explain?

Sorry. Sarcasm doesn't carry well within text. I believe he was asserting that either you truly didn't enjoy Dave's speech or perhaps you don't appreciate true rock. How he would know this is beyond my comprehension. My next few lines were a caricature of typical Fark attitude towards any band that you might typically love. I love FF myself. I included that about Arlandria to clue you in that I too appreciated Dave's work and his speech last night.

Time Traveling Bunnies: bungle_jr: well now i'm more confused than before. anyone care to explain?

Sorry. Sarcasm doesn't carry well within text. I believe he was asserting that either you truly didn't enjoy Dave's speech or perhaps you don't appreciate true rock. How he would know this is beyond my comprehension. My next few lines were a caricature of typical Fark attitude towards any band that you might typically love. I love FF myself. I included that about Arlandria to clue you in that I too appreciated Dave's work and his speech last night.

ok...your sarcasm i understood. i mean, i've been a huge ff fan since their first album "in your honor" (see what i did there?)

i still don't understand the context though, and especially the original comment that confused me. i really am quite the admirer of the fighting of foo, and i wholeheartedly agree with dave's 1st acceptance speech last night. i have yet to watch the 2nd 1/2 of the awards show to see/hear any more tidbits from grohl & co.

bungle_jr: Time Traveling Bunnies: bungle_jr: well now i'm more confused than before. anyone care to explain?

Sorry. Sarcasm doesn't carry well within text. I believe he was asserting that either you truly didn't enjoy Dave's speech or perhaps you don't appreciate true rock. How he would know this is beyond my comprehension. My next few lines were a caricature of typical Fark attitude towards any band that you might typically love. I love FF myself. I included that about Arlandria to clue you in that I too appreciated Dave's work and his speech last night.

ok...your sarcasm i understood. i mean, i've been a huge ff fan since their first album "in your honor" (see what i did there?)

i still don't understand the context though, and especially the original comment that confused me. i really am quite the admirer of the fighting of foo, and i wholeheartedly agree with dave's 1st acceptance speech last night. i have yet to watch the 2nd 1/2 of the awards show to see/hear any more tidbits from grohl & co.

I believe, bungle_jr, you wrote "recorded one of their better albums of their career in his garage with mics and a tape recorder," to which James Scameron replied in a manner contradicting your suggestive post that you, in fact, recorded on of their better albums.

Anyway, I've always loved the Foo Fighters. I think they're getting better and better.

bluenote13: James Scameron: bluenote13:

yawn..the tired old 'I must be better than you because I can name some 80's and 90's bands' comment. Hey look I can name some too: Chrome, Monoshock, Mission of Burma ...


be strong..be wrong..

you were a twat the first time, now you are a bigger twat.
go hit the foo fighters fan fiction threads and have a good cry...