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Red Wings defeat Flyers 4-3 to tie 1929-30 Bruins and 1975-76 Flyers for the longest home win streak in NHL history, must defeat Dallas Stars on Tuesday for the record
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AKTurkey
2012-02-12 10:15:48 PM
But your team is ok too I guess
Really I'm Black
2012-02-13 01:40:46 AM
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LadyBelgara
2012-02-13 01:40:48 AM
buckeyebrain
2012-02-13 01:46:22 AM
Except that those Bruins and Flyers teams didn't have the luxury of an overtime or Basketball Lawyer's shootout.
carnifex2005
2012-02-13 01:48:49 AM
The hilarious thing about this streak is that the Wings are still only one point better than the Rangers despite playing 3 more games.
cptjeff
2012-02-13 01:59:11 AM
buckeyebrain
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Basketball Lawyer's
You know what the funny thing is? When Bettman went to the NBA, he was known as a hockey guy. Which he was- he was never much of a basketball fan, but he grew up doing his homework in MSG while watching the Rangers practice. And he was a big devotee of Cornell Hockey while at school there- and you can still get him worked up if you take cracks at it. Only team he gets to be a fan of, after all.
He got involved with the NBA because he knew David Stern, not because he knew the sport.
DssDevl
2012-02-13 02:35:04 AM
buckeyebrain
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Except that those Bruins and Flyers teams didn't have the luxury of an overtime or Basketball Lawyer's shootout.
Has there ever been a sports commissioner more hated than Bettman? I think the NHL should appoint a Canadian commish, nobody hates Canadians. (except Cartman)
desertgeek
2012-02-13 02:43:07 AM
buckeyebrain
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Except that those Bruins and Flyers teams didn't have the luxury of an overtime or Basketball Lawyer's shootout.
Actually, they said on the broadcast tonight that the Bruins team did have OT back then. But it was a 10 minute, non-sudden death OT.
However, the Flyers didn't have OT to work with.
FYI, of the 20 wins, 1 was in OT (Chicago) and 3 were in shootouts (Phoenix, Columbus and Anaheim last Friday).
Friction8r
2012-02-13 02:54:52 AM
Red Wings suck! Lemieux broke Chris Draper's face! "Wook at my fate, wook at my fate!"
Ishkur
2012-02-13 03:11:02 AM
It's easy to get wins when every tie game forces a win.
/three of those wins were shootout wins
//which don't technically count
Dafatone
2012-02-13 03:18:31 AM
I guess shootouts make a winning streak easier. But they also make unbeaten streaks harder.
Also, I grew up in the town where Bettman lives. My mom was friends with his wife, and I met him a couple times when I was 7. He seemed nice. It's pretty funny that this hated figure is this guy I remember being nice when I was 7.
Quigs
2012-02-13 03:19:05 AM
The redwings streak, if judged by how the flyers did it, only lasted.12 games.
Vangor
2012-02-13 04:28:06 AM
Your favorite team is better than the Red Wings which is why your favorite team has a longer home winning streak under the current rules because it is so easy.
182
2012-02-13 04:49:14 AM
yeah, but they are winning in Detroit....who couldn't be a winner in a town of losers.
/Go Blackhawks!
jeffrey626
2012-02-13 04:52:42 AM
haters gonna hate!
syndre
2012-02-13 05:25:29 AM
The streak is just as valid as the Flyers' because in every game that went to a SO, the team they were playing had just as good of a chance at winning as the Wings did.
ozarkmatt
2012-02-13 05:29:32 AM
carnifex2005
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The hilarious thing about this streak is that the Wings are still only one point better than the Rangers despite playing 3 more games.
And that isn't a correct fact anymore.
/let's go ran-gers...
AKTurkey
2012-02-13 05:41:23 AM
ozarkmatt
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carnifex2005: The hilarious thing about this streak is that the Wings are still only one point better than the Rangers despite playing 3 more games.
And that isn't a correct fact anymore.
/let's go ran-gers...
Yes, it is. Although I'd phrase it more like, "The awesome thing about this streak is that the Wings are one point better than the Rangers and first in the League"
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Tri 26.2
2012-02-13 05:48:16 AM
ozarkmatt
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carnifex2005: The hilarious thing about this streak is that the Wings are still only one point better than the Rangers despite playing 3 more games.
And that isn't a correct fact anymore.
/let's go ran-gers...
Sure looks like a fact to me... Am I missing something?
puffy999
2012-02-13 06:08:12 AM
My Datsyuk brings all the boys to the yard,
and they're like,he's Zetter' than yours...
Vangor
2012-02-13 06:08:41 AM
Tri 26.2
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Sure looks like a fact to me... Am I missing something?
Probably looked towards the standings much earlier yesterday. Since the Rangers played early afternoon, the score was updated before the Red Wings took to the ice.
carnifex2005
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The hilarious thing about this streak is that the Wings are still only one point better than the Rangers despite playing 3 more games.
Rangers have Boston coming up; Wings have Dallas. We are due for a loss, but the Rangers are playing a harder team. Would say the likeliest scenario is the Wings will be two points up; Rangers lose in regulation and Wings lose in OT, or Rangers and Wings both win. I am sure we will see the Rangers gain and maintain a slight point advantage, especially because the remaining February schedule looks a little easier on the Rangers (we get two day breaks after the Stars and Blue Jackets, who needs to recover against them, Rangers get breaks after Blackhawks and Penguins).
But, unless I am mistaken, the Rangers and Bruins will both be playing those three and four games sometime in the coming months as we get closer to playoff time, which is a disadvantage. All of us are basically getting in, and Rangers and Bruins will not be playing each other first round more than likely. Long term, I like our spot.
mc_madness
2012-02-13 07:03:56 AM
Winning streaks are meaningless in hockey. Not impressive.
They're watered down by Bettman's rules and the game's parity.
keylock71
2012-02-13 07:46:58 AM
Bruins have two 20 game home winning streaks in their history, I believe.
fatalvenom
2012-02-13 08:03:44 AM
keylock71
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Bruins have two 20 game home winning streaks in their history, I believe.
70-71 they had a 19 game streak.
keylock71
2012-02-13 08:10:19 AM
fatalvenom
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keylock71: Bruins have two 20 game home winning streaks in their history, I believe.
70-71 they had a 19 game streak.
Ah, thanks... Thought that was 20, too.
/Not much of a stat guy.
DubyaHater
2012-02-13 08:13:13 AM
What's an NHL?
fatalvenom
2012-02-13 08:15:41 AM
keylock71
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Ah, thanks... Thought that was 20, too.
/Not much of a stat guy.
They mentioned it after the end of the game last night or I wouldn't have known, either.
Balchinian
2012-02-13 08:22:27 AM
DssDevl
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buckeyebrain: Except that those Bruins and Flyers teams didn't have the luxury of an overtime or Basketball Lawyer's shootout.
Has there ever been a sports commissioner more hated than Bettman? I think the NHL should appoint a Canadian commish, nobody hates Canadians. (except Cartman)
Bud Selig is vastly more detested than Buttman.
FriarReb98
2012-02-13 08:23:05 AM
Three of them are shootouts? That's lame. Still impressive, but not as impressive as it could be....
\and for the record, it's not just Betteman, all four Big Four commissioners right now are moneygrubbing tools who don't care about the game unless it effects their bottom line.
LesserEvil
2012-02-13 08:28:36 AM
jeffrey626
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haters gonna hate!
Yup.
browneye
2012-02-13 08:40:54 AM
GO WINGS!
Rev.K
2012-02-13 08:44:31 AM
syndre
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The streak is just as valid as the Flyers' because in every game that went to a SO, the team they were playing had just as good of a chance at winning as the Wings did.
10/10
Flawless trolling.
9beers
2012-02-13 09:23:48 AM
Wow, some butt hurt Flyers fans in here.
MugzyBrown
2012-02-13 10:07:39 AM
A record I didn't know existed until last night's game.
woooo
Smiths
2012-02-13 10:21:05 AM
I GET TO USE THIS AGAIN!
Resolute
2012-02-13 10:22:10 AM
A shootout win is not a real win, therefore this record does not count.
That being said, a 20-game unbeaten streak is still ridiculous.
9beers
2012-02-13 10:35:35 AM
Resolute
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A shootout win is not a real win, therefore this record does not count.
There were only 18 teams in the NHL for the 75-76 season with 5 elite teams and a bunch of scrubs, therefore the Flyers record isn't nearly as impressive as the Wings.
loaba
2012-02-13 10:44:59 AM
First, let me just say that I hate the Redwings. They have the best scouting department in Hockey. Farkers.
As for the little Stars, what can I say? I don't get Center Ice so I'm not catching games the way I used to.
jennyz
2012-02-13 10:51:21 AM
Unfortunately, that probably won't be hard to do :( I've just about given up on my Stars this season. Trade 'em all except Benn and Lehtonen, start over.
sigdiamond2000
2012-02-13 10:51:28 AM
Rev.K
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syndre: The streak is just as valid as the Flyers' because in every game that went to a SO, the team they were playing had just as good of a chance at winning as the Wings did.
10/10
Flawless trolling.
Not really sure I understand how that's trolling. I don't happen to agree with it either, but it's a valid argument.
Full disclosure, I'm a Wings fan (I think you know that) and I do believe the Flyers record is more impressive than the current Wings streak because they had to win every game in regulation. I don't deny that.
That said, just because a tie is not an option, that doesn't mean losing isn't an option either. I think that's the thing people are being a little disingenuous about when it comes to disparaging the streak.
People are acting like OT is some magical fairy land where you don't have to play better than the other team to win, or that shootout winners are randomly generated by some computer in the scoreboard. It's ridiculous. It's the kind of argument used by people who put together those adjusted "no loser points" standings because their team isn't going to make the playoffs. It just comes of as whiny.
The rules of win/losses/ties/points have changed about 500 times in NHL history. Get over it.
Muta
2012-02-13 10:55:02 AM
Shouldn't there be an asterisk next to Philly's 20 game wining streak since they didn't have a salary cap and could stock pile good players?
Shouldn't there be an asterisk next to Bruin's win streak since they only played 40 games and didn't have to travel past the Mississippi River?
LL316
2012-02-13 11:12:17 AM
mc_madness
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Winning streaks are meaningless in hockey. Not impressive.
They're watered down by Bettman's rules and the game's parity.
If every team is just as good as every other team, wouldn't it be harder to go on a long winning streak?
Rev.K
2012-02-13 11:14:08 AM
sigdiamond2000
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That said, just because a tie is not an option, that doesn't mean losing isn't an option either. I think that's the thing people are being a little disingenuous about when it comes to disparaging the streak.
Under the rules that the 75-76 Flyers were under, this Wings home winning streak would not exist, period.
Only because of the most insipid gimmick in all of professional sports do the Wings get a shot at breaking this record. The OT win against Chicago is a legit win, I'm not taking away anything from that and the Wings record at home is the envy of the league for sure.
But we're not comparing apples to apples, so let's not even pretend we are.
9beers
2012-02-13 11:21:34 AM
Rev.K
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But we're not comparing apples to apples, so let's not even pretend we are.
You're right, NHL teams from 35 years ago shouldn't be compared to the teams of today because they couldn't come close to competing with them.
sigdiamond2000
2012-02-13 11:29:30 AM
Rev.K
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sigdiamond2000: That said, just because a tie is not an option, that doesn't mean losing isn't an option either. I think that's the thing people are being a little disingenuous about when it comes to disparaging the streak.
Under the rules that the 75-76 Flyers were under, this Wings home winning streak would not exist, period.
Only because of the most insipid gimmick in all of professional sports do the Wings get a shot at breaking this record. The OT win against Chicago is a legit win, I'm not taking away anything from that and the Wings record at home is the envy of the league for sure.
But we're not comparing apples to apples, so let's not even pretend we are.
I don't disagree with anything you've said in this post.
I'm just pointing out that people are being pretty dishonest with this whole "loser points" business. It's almost like it's come to the point where an OT win reflects more poorly on the winning team than the losing team. It's asinine. There is an entire cottage industry of sportswriters and bloggers who live in this alternate universe where wins and points don't matter anymore, just because of the post-lockout OT rules. Like I said, it's not like the NHL has had some time-honored, stable history of the way points/wins/losses/OT have been recorded. It's literally changed a dozen times over the years.
I think the shootout is the worst thing to happen to the NHL in my lifetime. That said, to pretend like it's some kind of randomly generated crap shoot is ridiculous. Teams that win a lot in OT tend to be good teams.
Rev.K
2012-02-13 11:31:39 AM
9beers
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You're right, NHL teams from 35 years ago shouldn't be compared to the teams of today because they couldn't come close to competing with them.
That point is valid.
But come on, a shootout win is nothing like a regulation or OT win. It simply isn't the same. The NHL's own rules on playoff tiebreakers don't count shootout wins.
And it's pretty obvious why.
/get rid of the f*cking shootout
Rav Tokomi
2012-02-13 11:32:15 AM
It seems like my Flyers are always happy to oblige whenever there is some sort of record at stake for the opposing team, whether its goals, wins, shutouts, etc.
MugzyBrown
2012-02-13 11:34:34 AM
Let's argue which meaningless record is more legit than the other meaningless record.
The Patriots went 16-0. That was something, eh?
Rev.K
2012-02-13 11:42:14 AM
sigdiamond2000
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I'm just pointing out that people are being pretty dishonest with this whole "loser points" business. It's almost like it's come to the point where an OT win reflects more poorly on the winning team than the losing team. It's asinine. There is an entire cottage industry of sportswriters and bloggers who live in this alternate universe where wins and points don't matter anymore, just because of the post-lockout OT rules. Like I said, it's not like the NHL has had some time-honored, stable history of the way points/wins/losses/OT have been recorded. It's literally changed a dozen times over the years.
I think the shootout is the worst thing to happen to the NHL in my lifetime. That said, to pretend like it's some kind of randomly generated crap shoot is ridiculous. Teams that win a lot in OT tend to be good teams.
I agree. The point structure has changed over time, but I would argue that the current system is the absolute worst they have ever had.
Look at the litany of tie-breakers that are required because OT losses result in a point and shootout losses also result in a point, but also that shootout wins are not counted in the event of a tie between two teams vying for a last playoff spot.....
It's absolutely f*cking ridiculous.
Just simplify it for f*ck sake.
Ishkur
2012-02-13 11:47:28 AM
sigdiamond2000
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It's almost like it's come to the point where an OT win reflects more poorly on the winning team than the losing team.
No one is saying that. What they're saying is that a SO win reflects more poorly on the game (and winning streaks), period.
And they're right.
sigdiamond2000
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Teams that win a lot in OT tend to be good teams.
Actually, this is completely untrue. Some teams are better at the shootout than others, but there is almost no correlation between good teams and good shootout teams. The team with the best shootout record is Colorado and they're not even going to make the playoffs. Similarly, St. Louis and the Rangers are absolutely terrible at the shootout which is a real head scratcher given their impeccable goaltending. New Jersey has the most shootout wins, and they're middle of the pack.
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