YEEEEEAAAAAAH!

I need to CU get to da Coppah!

He'll Cu later.

If think that's too lenient, remember, he'll get a good scolding from the judge when he violates probation.

He was also sentenced to a year in jail, though that was suspended - meaning, he will not be jailed initially, but if he violates the terms of his probation, he could be jailed.

...If they get him again he's-a gettin' jail time. But he has caused a lot of damage. This seems like pretty light sentencing.

1. Steal copper
2. ?
3. $45,000.00

Curious: a commentor mentioned the $5000 could be the insurance deductible. nonetheless the total damage was over $200,000 so throw the little shiat in jail for a couple of years. and sell his mustang for an initial payment on the 5G.

1. I totally agree on at least some jail time for the dude.
2. What's stopping the theft victim(s) from taking the guy to civil court to recover the value of the stolen merch?

If the $5k really is just an insurance deductible, and the victims are cool with just accepting that, does that mean the insurance company could take the guy to civil court?

FTFA: Noonan was arrested in early April, along with two other men and a woman, following the arrests of three other men in February in connection with the wire thefts.

He's the first to go to trial and gets a really light sentance...I wonder who is going to be the star witness in the other 6 trials.
TFA also mentions a second charge that he's been found guilty of, but he was placed on pre-trial probation and the case will be continued in a year. Nice way to lock him into keeping his end of the deal. If he fails to deliver at the other trials, he gets PMITA prison a year from now.

The banking system laughs at his amateur returns.

But you haven't met the guy. He'll smelt your heart.

Edited out of article: Noonan's carpal tunnel and treatment for other injuries sustained while stealing the copper would be a burden on the justice system, costing more than $200,000. Plus, the judge was in a good mood that day, his house has completely new, state of the art copper wiring.

If the amount of copper was valued at $50.000.00 and #1 wire copper is worth about $3.00 a pound at the recyclers then this guy stole 16,666 pounds of copper in a Ford Mustang. It's either a case of cop math or the actual damages and cost to replace that they are using to figure damages,

And that much "copper" would have the additional weight of the conduit and insulation so he must have a really biatchin' Mustang.

Still he and his buddy are thieves and should have 110 hooked to their testicles.

Disappointed.

Rightm he stole 50k worth of copper.

He probably didn't even get 5 grand for it at whatever scrap metal place it was sold to. Not saying it makes his fine right somehow, but I doubt very much that this guy has pocketed 45k out of the deal.

OOF: 1. Steal copper
2. ?
3. $45,000.00

I been in about 100 scrap yards and every one required a photo ID and took a photo before giving a check for scrap.

Cops in general are horrible estimators, and journalists are even worse. I'd like to know how much the guy got for this stuff at the reclamation center before calculating his profit.

Math in Massachusetts -- how does it work?

Good thing they didn't catch him with a joint as well or he would have gotten 5 years!

Steal other peoples stuff...no big deal.
Smoke a joint...break out the swat team!

Where I live, the maximum sentence for drug dealing the the town can hand out is six months (the county wont take the drug cases) - so its just the cost of doing business for these guys. It also gives them somewhere warm to go in the winter.

I take it then that everyone is making the conclusion that he gets to keep the fruit of his crime?

If I steal a bugatti veyron I will not go to prison for a few years and then have a kick ass car.

Won't "the community" be outraged at this injustice, and march to the courthouse with pitchforks in hand? Just wondering....

you gotta wonder who he's related to.......

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Disappointed.

Well played.

Curious: a commentor mentioned the $5000 could be the insurance deductible. nonetheless the total damage was over $200,000 so throw the little shiat in jail for a couple of years. and sell his mustang for an initial payment on the 5G.

Just kill him, removing him from society in the most humane way possible.

/not convinced that thieves count as people

Seems about right, at least he wasn't stealing mp3's.

Okay, who is he related to?

Everytime I see some POS get a free ride through the legal system it's because their brother/uncle/aunt/cousin is a judge/clerk/deputy/politician.

Either that or someone made a sweet deal.

It sucks that he stole near 50k$ worth of copper and caused near 100k$ worth of damages when he probably only got a couple thousand at most for the wire.

Lone Stranger: And that much "copper" would have the additional weight of the conduit and insulation so he must have a really biatchin' Mustang.

I know, right?! Maybe he stole it in multiple robberies. If only TFA would have explained it further. Oh wait, it did. In the first farking sentence:

"A Newbury man has been convicted for his part in last year's wave of thefts [...]"

Do you have any Gey Poupon?



That's "Commodore" Noonan to you...

vodka: Seems about right, at least he wasn't stealing mp3's.

I know, right? Those pesky MP3 thieves do thousands of dollars in damage every time they go through the tubes and hack an mp3 out of a platter. And then the tube gets damaged when they download it back home, because have you seen how small fiber optic line is versus a hard drive? Makes giving birth look like sneezing out a booger.

Lone Stranger: If the amount of copper was valued at $50.000.00 and #1 wire copper is worth about $3.00 a pound at the recyclers then this guy stole 16,666 pounds of copper in a Ford Mustang. It's either a case of cop math or the actual damages and cost to replace that they are using to figure damages,

I was wondering if they used drug seizure math.

"Well, we found one ounce of cocaine on him. That's over $20,000,000 on the street. He'll get life, of course."

StoPPeRmobile: OOF: 1. Steal copper
2. ?
3. $45,000.00

I been in about 100 scrap yards and every one required a photo ID and took a photo before giving a check for scrap.

I only go to one. I have cleaned up a bunch of farm junk etc. from family property over the last six months. I hauled multiple loads of #1 steel such as old truck frames and crushed farm implements etc. I made more on smaller quantities of stainless steel, lead, aluminum, copper wire, brass and electric motors pulled from a half collapsed barn or found just littered amongst the other junk. (Yankees will save anything: "Might come in handy some day").

1. They NEVER asked for a title or bill of sale on chopped up trucks or even a VIN.
2. They NEVER asked for an ID of any kind.
3. They NEVER took a picture of me or the scrap(this is laughable, at least at this yard)
4. They paid in CASH immediately after unloading.

After unloading, they would ask my name (initially, after several loads the boss remembered it) then write what I said on the weight slip, total it, and hand over the carbon copy (yes, carbon copy) and the cash which pulled from an old-timey register in plain sight.

/can fit no more than ~2000lbs on my truck
//loads ranged from several at $200+ of just steel to a $900+ load of a little of everything
/// a lot of work, but worth my time
///distant corners of my In-law's and grandmother's properties are cleaner now

Subby sounds like a real dickhead.

Gothnet: Rightm he stole 50k worth of copper.

He probably didn't even get 5 grand for it at whatever scrap metal place it was sold to. Not saying it makes his fine right somehow, but I doubt very much that this guy has pocketed 45k out of the deal.


Came to say this.

To put it simply: Copper mark-up is a biatch.

Well that's the basis for all business nowadays, and the more you steal the less jail time you face.

I had the peasure of sitting through hours of arrainments a couple weeks ago; general felonies and misdemeanors; theft, burglary, drugs, dui, driving on suspended license, cronic traffic offenders/faulures to appear. A lot of these people were repeat offenders. The concensus among myself and orhers in the audience was that the judge and DA just wanted a high conviction rates, some reasonably low fine, and time served almost regardless of how short a time the offender had been inside. The courts want high conviction rates; they don't much care about punishment, debt to society, or rehabilitation it seems. At least not that court.

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bigsteve3OOO: The banking system laughs at his amateur returns.

This

Did anyone hear that the Obama administration announcement of a deal that let the banks get off with a tiny slap on the wrist fine for all their rampant, nation-wide, fraudulent home foreclosure practices?

How odd. They announced it at the end of the day Friday. It's as if they knew that's the best time to announce something if you want to bury the news.

Oh well, the banks only destroyed the economy and trillions of dollars with their fraudulent mortgage practices. We wouldn't want to see them punished for that.

I understand that somewhere someone downloaded an mp3 while smoking medical marijuana. Now there's a criminal who deserves jail time.

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Lone Stranger:

Still he and his buddy are thieves and should have 110 hooked to their testicles.

Law and order person eh?


You sound republican or sharia, either way, same same.

We have the most vicious, draconian justice system out of all first world nations.

I'm far less concerned about a relatively light sentence for some guy convicted of a non violent crime than I am about the thousands of other multi-year, life destroying sentences for minor, ridiculous charges that we hand out everyday.

Yah, this guy got off easy probably, but he's probably blacklisted from any sort of meaningful work now that he has a felony conviction anyhow. Remember: we don't just sentence people to prison, we destroy any chance for their future as well.

It's about the victims out of pocket expenses, so 5k means that a 3rd party footed the rest of the repair bill. As for the probation with suspended, that's pretty odd for a guilty verdict. Typically you bargain for those suspended sentences. But fret not, 55% of probationers fail and I'd say scrapers fail at an even higher rate so he'll serve his year t some point. And if not, probation might not be prison but it is a pain in the ass nonetheless