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		No matter what he tells you, letting a man feel your breasts during a private, one-on-one meeting is not one of AA's twelve steps (denverpost.com)		89
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vudukungfu

2012-02-12 01:01:15 AM

Well, it was that or go outside and smoke like everyone else.

Danger Avoid Death

2012-02-12 02:11:08 AM

Thanks for sharing!

MicroCephallic

2012-02-12 02:12:57 AM

What's the problem? He just found his "Higher Power".

Gawdzila

2012-02-12 02:13:01 AM

SHHHH!!!

nobodyUwannaknow

2012-02-12 02:14:34 AM

this is the secret 13th step

cowgirl toffee

2012-02-12 02:14:43 AM

Really? O_o

gadian

2012-02-12 02:15:07 AM

Step 12.5 -- A spiritual awakening of a sort. Advanced level stuff.

starsrift

2012-02-12 02:17:14 AM

True, but BJ's are. You replace the craving for booze for craving of a different kind of liquid, or so the theory goes..

rickycal78

2012-02-12 02:18:15 AM

Sheesh, can't a recovering alcoholic a break and let him feel some titties? See if you ever catch me at an AA meeting.

Driver

2012-02-12 02:20:58 AM

Sounds like he was hoping for a double D meeting.

rickycal78

2012-02-12 02:21:53 AM

rickycal78: Sheesh, can't a recovering alcoholic catch a break and let him feel some titties? See if you ever catch me at an AA meeting.

FTFM, damned late night posting.

Danger Avoid Death

2012-02-12 02:23:10 AM

rickycal78: rickycal78: Sheesh, can't a recovering alcoholic catch a break and let him feel some titties? See if you ever catch me at an AA meeting.

FTFM, damned late night posting.

Sounds more like denial and vodak.

digitalpirate

2012-02-12 02:23:40 AM

I guess AA isn't as anonymous as they claim to be.

But seriously, those guys need to chill on the coffee and cigarettes. Either that or buy a TON of Tic-Tacs.

nburghmatt

2012-02-12 02:25:18 AM

with all that strong coffee you never know what those motherfarkers will do. they were probably up for 3 days.

Dubai Vol

2012-02-12 02:25:41 AM

letting a man feel your breasts during a private, one-on-one meeting is not one of AA's twelve steps

But it can't hurt!

DonPepper

2012-02-12 02:26:16 AM

That's how I do it..

JackalRabbit

2012-02-12 02:26:46 AM

approves

dalovindj

2012-02-12 02:28:59 AM

fark it then. I'm going back to drinking.

cowgirl toffee

2012-02-12 02:33:51 AM

dalovindj: fark it then. I'm going back to drinking.

Don't do that!

Quick... call your sponsor and ask him to feel your titties!

peasants_are_revolting

2012-02-12 02:34:26 AM

Danger Avoid Death: rickycal78: rickycal78: Sheesh, can't a recovering alcoholic catch a break and let him feel some titties? See if you ever catch me at an AA meeting.

FTFM, damned late night posting.

Sounds more like denial and vodak.

You sound like someone who would really suck at a party.

batcookie

2012-02-12 02:37:49 AM

It's easy to look at someone like this woman and say "why the hell would you go to the hotel room and put yourself in that position?" But according to the article that guy was in something of a position of authority in the AA group. The psychology of perceived authority is fascinating, look into the Milgram experiment - I mean those perfectly normal, rational people took actions that, had the shocks been real, would have killed someone, all because a man in a white coat told them to do it.

JackalRabbit

2012-02-12 02:37:55 AM

peasants_are_revolting: Danger Avoid Death: rickycal78: rickycal78: Sheesh, can't a recovering alcoholic catch a break and let him feel some titties? See if you ever catch me at an AA meeting.

FTFM, damned late night posting.

Sounds more like denial and vodak.

You sound like someone who would really suck at a party.

that like knees in the closet "suck", or vomit on the coat bed "suck"?

peasants_are_revolting

2012-02-12 02:41:25 AM

JackalRabbit: peasants_are_revolting: Danger Avoid Death: rickycal78: rickycal78: Sheesh, can't a recovering alcoholic catch a break and let him feel some titties? See if you ever catch me at an AA meeting.

FTFM, damned late night posting.

Sounds more like denial and vodak.

You sound like someone who would really suck at a party.

that like knees in the closet "suck", or vomit on the coat bed "suck"?

I'm sorry, was that in English?

Lone Stranger

2012-02-12 02:43:59 AM

Boozebs!

Hector Remarkable

2012-02-12 02:45:00 AM

It's still a pretty good deal though if your car breaks down.

JackalRabbit

2012-02-12 02:45:36 AM

peasants_are_revolting: JackalRabbit: peasants_are_revolting: Danger Avoid Death: rickycal78: rickycal78: Sheesh, can't a recovering alcoholic catch a break and let him feel some titties? See if you ever catch me at an AA meeting.

FTFM, damned late night posting.

Sounds more like denial and vodak.

You sound like someone who would really suck at a party.

that like knees in the closet "suck", or vomit on the coat bed "suck"?

I'm sorry, was that in English?

meros code

OMGSTFUp

2012-02-12 02:48:33 AM

Meh. I'm old school. I like being felt up.

Notabunny

2012-02-12 02:48:56 AM

cowgirl toffee: Really? O_o

No, not really. May I freshen that up for you?

Ray_Peranus

2012-02-12 02:49:45 AM

peasants_are_revolting

2012-02-12 02:50:20 AM

JackalRabbit: peasants_are_revolting: JackalRabbit: peasants_are_revolting: Danger Avoid Death: rickycal78: rickycal78: Sheesh, can't a recovering alcoholic catch a break and let him feel some titties? See if you ever catch me at an AA meeting.

FTFM, damned late night posting.

Sounds more like denial and vodak.

You sound like someone who would really suck at a party.

that like knees in the closet "suck", or vomit on the coat bed "suck"?

I'm sorry, was that in English?

meros code

Ha, nice!

meowgret thatcher

2012-02-12 03:00:57 AM

Dunno, it's usually how I make my amends with people. Could have been practicing how to say sorry.

Phil McKraken

2012-02-12 03:05:52 AM

Breaking news at DP.

Vangor

2012-02-12 03:14:45 AM

batcookie: The psychology of perceived authority is fascinating, look into the Milgram experiment - I mean those perfectly normal, rational people took actions that, had the shocks been real, would have killed someone, all because a man in a white coat told them to do it.

Deep down, I think some of us want to hurt someone, not out of vengeance but sadism, but we are afraid of the repercussions.

I also wonder how knowledge of the Milgram experiment and similar research influences results of other experiments concerning acceptance of authority.

I also want to feel some breasts, but this is less related to power of authority and more power of the ~~demon booze~~ boobies.

JonnyBlack

2012-02-12 03:15:37 AM

nburghmatt: with all that strong coffee you never know what those motherfarkers will do. they were probably up for 3 days.

I never got this, AA members drink a shiat ton of coffee though. Which seems ass backwards, since I abuse the fark out of alcohol to relax, not to get active. If I want to get active, meth is cheaper than alcohol around here, but I prefer coffee since it won't keep me up all goddamn night, just make it hard to sleep.

/really, I don't get meth abuse and I've had more than my fair share of it.
//Really? WTF? I like gaining a night of study once in awhile, but the initial rush makes me edgier than a 12th century sailor on the end of the world.
///Really, people chase that? I don't understand it.
//I don't get the draw of opiates either, although I've had too many of them as well.
/Don't mind me, I'm just smoking a cigarette and finishing my drink before I pass out.

clyph

2012-02-12 03:20:28 AM

Jeeze, if you can't go to 12 step meetings to pick up gullible, farked-up women for cheap easy meaningless sex, what's the point in going?

clyph

2012-02-12 03:24:00 AM

Ray_Peranus: [images.cheezburger.com image 456x356]

Cute, but I think that scene would play out more like Alan Rickman's Sheriff of Nottingham:

You, my chambers, 8:00.
You, 8:30. Bring a friend.

inclemency

2012-02-12 03:27:21 AM

nobodyUwannaknow: this is the secret 13th step

It actually is.

13th stepping is when people in the program 'with some time' try to help unsuspecting newcomers and garner sexual favours.

/people are pretty easily manipulated when they come in because they're crazy from destroying their minds and lives.
//most still are crazy even if sober for a bit.
///the more you know

batcookie

2012-02-12 03:33:47 AM

Vangor: I also want to feel some breasts, but this is less related to power of authority and more power of the demon booze boobies.

His authority had nothing to do with why he wanted to feel her up, I was referring to her decision to meet him alone at a hotel room. As for Milgram, he was sort of the grandfather of this particular field of social psychology, but since then there has been much more research. As for how his results influenced this research, well... it STARTED this research, so a lot of it is piggybacking on his work, as well as some who have replicated and analyzed the exact experiment (bringing into question whether it's really about authority, as Milgram theorized, or about internal vs. external locus of control. I would argue that the two are very closely intertwined, so perhaps it isn't so much an "either/or" situation but some combination or perfect storm of external locus of control and perceived authority. It seems especially important to consider this with Milgram's experiment considering his experiment was inspired by the trial of Adolph Eichmann... but I digress) but there has been plenty of research independent from Milgram's experiment as well. Go find a social psychology journal at the library and check it out, man, as I said, there's a lot of it. If one is to follow the thinking that it's about authority AND external locus of control, remember that this woman was in AA. What's one of the first things you have to do in AA? Admit to being powerless and give yourself over to a "higher power." So between him being an authority figure and the external locus of control inherent in those who would benefit from AA, there's your perfect storm that led to a bad decision, and she's frankly lucky she got out of there and it didn't go very badly for her.

Gawdzila

2012-02-12 03:36:59 AM

JonnyBlack: I never got this, AA members drink a shiat ton of coffee though. Which seems ass backwards, since I abuse the fark out of alcohol to relax, not to get active.

Your confusion is because you're thinking that addicts abuse alcohol just because they're looking for the feeling it causes. There are a lot of reasons alcoholics drink, and that isn't even the most important one.

Recovering alcoholics drink coffee because they're trying to replace a damaging addiction with a less harmful one. Addiction is an almost inseparable part of their lives, and not only in a chemical sense. They have ingrained behaviors that are geared towards always having a drink in their hands, and it has become fundamental to their socializing habits. It's the same reason that people trying to quit cigarettes often chew gum. The gum obviously doesn't have the same effect, but it satisfies the oral fixation.

cynicalbastard

2012-02-12 03:52:21 AM

The in-joke is that sleeping with your "recovery sponsor" if they are attractive to you in that manner is the 13th step.

brianbankerus

2012-02-12 03:55:18 AM

starsrift: True, but BJ's are. You replace the craving for booze for craving of a different kind of liquid, or so the theory goes..

You mispelled goo.

/and I mispelled misspelled.

Vangor

2012-02-12 03:59:59 AM

batcookie: His authority had nothing to do with why he wanted to feel her up, I was referring to her decision to meet him alone at a hotel room.

I was more relating my comment back to the thread than something about inevitable abuse of authority. I mean, this is Fark. All threads tend towards boobies. Threads about boobies should be double about boobies.

batcookie: As for how his results influenced this research

I think you both misunderstand my pondering (how knowledge of his and similar research influences willingness to obey authority, which I have not located a study on but admittedly I lack the vernacular for psychology databases) and make assumptions about my understanding of some basic psychology. I am not suggesting psychology has agency and disassociation from the act wrong, just commenting "perfectly normal, rational people" are anything but. People generally have to be willing participants on some level for such exploitation.

digitalpirate

2012-02-12 04:20:03 AM

Vangor: batcookie: The psychology of perceived authority is fascinating, look into the Milgram experiment - I mean those perfectly normal, rational people took actions that, had the shocks been real, would have killed someone, all because a man in a white coat told them to do it.

Deep down, I think some of us want to hurt someone, not out of vengeance but sadism, but we are afraid of the repercussions.

I also wonder how knowledge of the Milgram experiment and similar research influences results of other experiments concerning acceptance of authority.

I also want to feel some breasts, but this is less related to power of authority and more power of the demon booze boobies.

This, this, and more this!

I never get tired of watching people while they are in pain, emotional or physical. The only thing preventing me from torturing people (physically) is that it might have negative repercussions on me. I find I have to fake almost all my emotional reactions except maybe hatred and disgust on a daily basis .

Mentalpatient87

2012-02-12 04:43:35 AM

batcookie: The psychology of perceived authority is fascinating, look into the Milgram experiment - I mean those perfectly normal, rational people took actions that, had the shocks been real, would have killed someone, all because a man in a white coat told them to do it.

Various teachers felt the need to bring this up in a few classes, showing a video each time. There was one kinda cute chick who couldn't stop giggling. She was enjoying it.

/if you're out there
//call me

glassgnost

2012-02-12 04:46:34 AM

Culty cultists being culty.

Twelve-step jumped the shark when James Woods played Bill W.

KrispyKritter

2012-02-12 05:00:13 AM

hotlink

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo

2012-02-12 05:01:30 AM

God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.
And some tig ol bitties to play with.

Buffet

2012-02-12 05:22:11 AM

That whore musta been drunk!

AbbeySomeone

2012-02-12 06:01:29 AM

nobodyUwannaknow: this is the secret 13th step

Came here to say this.
Ex did the AA thing for awhile and people joked about the 13th step.

Silentbob768768

2012-02-12 06:13:25 AM

Guess I'm the only one who thought this was going to be an American airlines not alcoholics anon...groping and the airlines just go hand in hand in my mind I suppose

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