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China to ban names that signal 'orphan' status. Example - Tossy McBaby
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FirstNationalBastard
2012-02-11 08:10:09 PM
So, Dumpster O'IWishidhadanabortion is out?
ArkAngel
2012-02-11 08:25:49 PM
There goes Annie
MaudlinMutantMollusk
2012-02-11 08:44:11 PM
Oliver is right out
/Oriver
Fark Me To Tears
2012-02-11 08:58:37 PM
Oh hell. If Gingrich catches wind of this, he'll start reminiscing about the merits of state-run orphanages again (repeat from the 1990s).
DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke
2012-02-11 09:36:43 PM
Twolves Razedmi?
Ed Finnerty
2012-02-11 09:59:51 PM
That's good news for little Door Stop and his little sister Drain Stopper.
Gyrfalcon
2012-02-11 10:00:56 PM
China is really odd.
Smeggy Smurf
2012-02-11 10:03:10 PM
These guys approve of this
/obscure to the kids
thenateman
2012-02-11 10:05:01 PM
Dumpster baby.
Espertron
2012-02-11 10:05:30 PM
Rumor has it the guy on the left is an orphan.
Espertron
2012-02-11 10:06:05 PM
and the right.
Jz4p
2012-02-11 10:08:37 PM
Alas, so much for the hopes of being surnamed "Snow".
thenateman
2012-02-11 10:10:37 PM
Prom night dumpster baby
(new window)
JackalRabbit
2012-02-11 10:10:59 PM
spose lil bastard still goes as it implies only one parental unit missing?
Sim Tree
2012-02-11 10:11:38 PM
Actually that's a fairly good question. What last names do we give orphans? Smith? What do they do here?
Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo
2012-02-11 10:12:15 PM
Poor little Numbersevenwithrice
Darkrover2
2012-02-11 10:17:47 PM
So 'Un Wan Tae Da Gurl' is out?
Silverstaff
2012-02-11 10:19:12 PM
Espertron
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[worldsf.files.wordpress.com image 296x400]
Rumor has it the guy on the left is an orphan.
Eh, I've heard it said that they both are. That guy on the right just tries to hide it because he got adopted after he was orphaned.
whatshisname
2012-02-11 10:20:20 PM
Phil?
PsiChick
2012-02-11 10:22:16 PM
Actually, this makes sense. In China, family is very important, so not having one would be seen as a defect. American society is individualistic, so we're less touchy about it (at least nationally, I think the kids care equally), but for a collectivist culture like China, this is logical.
bojon
2012-02-11 10:22:17 PM
Dingo Boy?
Obscure?
Espertron
2012-02-11 10:33:34 PM
Silverstaff
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Eh, I've heard it said that they both are. That guy on the right just tries to hide it because he got adopted after he was orphaned.
You must have missed the
next immediate
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Rigger1955
2012-02-11 10:37:38 PM
From the article comments:
Just in China alone, you have almost 93 million Wangs.
Round Fish on Toast
2012-02-11 10:43:03 PM
My kids came from the orphanage with the names "Yuan Shu Hong" and "Ji Lan Jun". I have no idea what they mean.
Anyway, they are now Ella and Tessa Fish on Toast,
/Don't anyone tell them that they are adopted.
vice_magnet
2012-02-11 11:12:44 PM
What about Tikitikitembonosayrembocherryberryruchipaperrypembo, and his brother Chang?
Straelbora
2012-02-11 11:23:37 PM
vice_magnet
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What about Tikitikitembonosayrembocherryberryruchipaperrypembo, and his brother Chang?
When I was a kid reading that book, I had no inkling that I would one day be married to a woman from China and trying to explain it to her when we discussed names for our son. And how scary that, like you, I remember it exactly.
//Then, of course, there's Ping the duck getting a swat on the butt for being the last bird in the poultry house at night.//
Alunan
2012-02-11 11:31:27 PM
Jon Snow?
Mia Flowers?
Jument
2012-02-11 11:38:26 PM
LOL, nice one subby.
doglover
2012-02-12 12:01:26 AM
Alunan
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Jon Snow?
Mia Flowers?
Adrian Whoreborn
Chinchillazilla
2012-02-12 12:12:18 AM
Don't orphans already have names? I mean, presumably they were born prior to being orphaned, so wouldn't they just use the names their parents gave them? That seems easier than coming up with a new name for every kid anyway.
Bonzo_1116
2012-02-12 12:26:29 AM
Chinchillazilla
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Don't orphans already have names? I mean, presumably they were born prior to being orphaned, so wouldn't they just use the names their parents gave them? That seems easier than coming up with a new name for every kid anyway.
The ones that get left at the firestation dropbox don't have one.
Although that would be cool if being left in one of these
meant getting the last name "Boxx" or "Urfan" or "Ward".
Chinchillazilla
2012-02-12 12:29:52 AM
Bonzo_1116
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Chinchillazilla: Don't orphans already have names? I mean, presumably they were born prior to being orphaned, so wouldn't they just use the names their parents gave them? That seems easier than coming up with a new name for every kid anyway.
The ones that get left at the firestation dropbox don't have one.
Although that would be cool if being left in one of these
meant getting the last name "Boxx" or "Urfan" or "Ward".
Maybe they should all just be named "Baby Bo".
/I know there's an x after that but whatever
MzUnderstood
2012-02-12 12:32:19 AM
Ugh, the baby on the far right with no head looks incredibly emaciated.
cedarpark
2012-02-12 01:20:47 AM
Rigger1955
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From the article comments:
Just in China alone, you have almost 93 million Wangs.
Really? With over a billion people there, you'd think there would be at least 500 million wangs.
/no counting the eunuchs
JackalRabbit
2012-02-12 01:34:33 AM
cedarpark
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Rigger1955: From the article comments:
Just in China alone, you have almost 93 million Wangs.
Really? With over a billion people there, you'd think there would be at least 500 million wangs.
/no counting the eunuchs
250,000. the other 250,000 are dongs.
Gawdzila
2012-02-12 02:27:33 AM
Others gave children the surname "Guo" or "Dang"- to indicate the child was in care of the "State" or "Party."
She's an orphan?
/She's purdeh
RealFarknMcCoy2
2012-02-12 03:43:36 AM
So I guess Land Phil is right out, then?
/Going to hell for laughing at that headline - it's all your fault, subbie!
Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf
2012-02-12 05:20:32 AM
Why do the Chinese have a social stigma on people who are orphans to start with? It's not their fault if they are orphans
hitlersbrain
2012-02-12 07:27:06 AM
Fark Me To Tears
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Oh hell. If Gingrich catches wind of this, he'll start reminiscing about the merits of state-run orphanages again (repeat from the 1990s).
Read up on foster homes. Orphanages are a good idea, even if that moron said so.
I'm not sure what kind of utter, babbling idiot came up with the idea of foster homes. All the dysfunctions of a normal, poverty level home (drug use, alcoholism, abuse) with none of the benefits (people that actually care about you). I think the Brazilian death squads were a kinder idea than foster homes.
hitlersbrain
2012-02-12 07:29:21 AM
Gawdzila
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Others gave children the surname "Guo" or "Dang"- to indicate the child was in care of the "State" or "Party."
She's an orphan?
[resources3.news.com.au image 640x462]
/She's purdeh
Are you sure 'she' is a she?
MythDragon
2012-02-12 09:16:53 AM
hitlersbrain
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Gawdzila: Others gave children the surname "Guo" or "Dang"- to indicate the child was in care of the "State" or "Party."
She's an orphan?
[resources3.news.com.au image 640x462]
/She's purdeh
Are you sure 'she' is a she?
Nobody's perfect.
If she's hidding a dong, she's hidding it well.
/I'd hit it
//Just keep the dong hidden. Lie to me.
Gunny Walker
2012-02-12 09:58:26 AM
The problem was that they were giving them names like "Guo Shiru #4921", "Guo Shiru #4922"...
Ronin_S
2012-02-12 10:22:36 AM
hitlersbrain
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Fark Me To Tears: Oh hell. If Gingrich catches wind of this, he'll start reminiscing about the merits of state-run orphanages again (repeat from the 1990s).
Read up on foster homes. Orphanages are a good idea, even if that moron said so.
I'm not sure what kind of utter, babbling idiot came up with the idea of foster homes. All the dysfunctions of a normal, poverty level home (drug use, alcoholism, abuse) with none of the benefits (people that actually care about you). I think the Brazilian death squads were a kinder idea than foster homes.
I think it was a reaction to the Little Orphan Annie scenario of the bad old days (the creator didn't exactly make that stuff up out of thin air). Rather than try to the problems, let's just attempt a completely new idea that's even worse
Gawdzila
2012-02-12 01:00:22 PM
hitlersbrain
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Gawdzila: Others gave children the surname "Guo" or "Dang"- to indicate the child was in care of the "State" or "Party."
She's an orphan?
[resources3.news.com.au image 640x462]
/She's purdeh
Are you sure 'she' is a she?
Guo Jingjing the gold medal-winning Chinese diver and model? Quite sure.
Maybe you're thinking she's from Thailand or something?
Mouser
2012-02-12 03:04:29 PM
Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf
:
Why do the Chinese have a social stigma on people who are orphans to start with? It's not their fault if they are orphans
In America, you're seen as an individual first, then as a member of a family, community, and country. That's actually pretty rare, as societies go. In a lot of countries, particularly Asian ones, you're considered a member of a family
before
being considered an individual.
If you have no family to be part of, well, sucks to be you over there.
Great Porn Dragon
2012-02-12 04:06:50 PM
Chinchillazilla
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Don't orphans already have names? I mean, presumably they were born prior to being orphaned, so wouldn't they just use the names their parents gave them? That seems easier than coming up with a new name for every kid anyway.
In all seriousness, a lot of those kids DON'T have registered names before joining the orphanage:
a) In China (and actually the case in a lot of Asian countries), your legal name isn't registered unless and until you are registered in a
formal family register
--think of it as sort of a governmentally-linked geneaology system and you get the idea. Babbies who are orphaned (and don't have relatives willing to adopt them) and/or who are given up right when they're born
don't
get entered into the family register.
(In addition to babbies in orphanages NOT inheriting legal names thanks to this--which is part of what I think they're trying to solve here--you sometimes get the reverse situation: Someone being born outside that country, but registered in a family register--which in some cases makes them citizens of that country. This is apparently especially problematic in South Korea, where Americans (who have relatives back in the Old Country who aren't born in Worst Korea and had never stepped foot in Korea) come over to visit where their ancestors are from--and find themselves drafted into the South Korean army because Grandma or Auntie put them in the family register, thereby making them (unawares) subject to mandated South Korean military service before they can leave.)
This actually has some fairly major ramifications, too--pretty much if you are not listed in a family register and are
not
an immigrant from a country that doesn't maintain family register systems, you pretty much may as not legally exist; much as
everything
is connected with SSNs and state IDs here in the US,
everything
is heavily connected to family registers in China.
(The concept of naming babby in a way indicating its parents were legally the state was a kludge to allow them to be eligible for family services, medical assistance, etc. and to be entered into the system, but there's also a rather powerful social stigma to being an orphan in those countries...so the kids ended up being victims of discrimination anyways :P)
b) Quite a lot of female babbies in particular are either given up in hospitals without ever being named or are foundlings that someone has
literally
dropped off at an orphanage without ever listing them in a family registry--meaning that they pretty much ARE Jane Doe (Jane Dou?) legally until the orphanage gives them a name.
zzrhardy
2012-02-12 07:50:08 PM
PsiChick
:
Actually, this makes sense.
Doesn't mean shiat for a Chinese guy orphan.
You pretty much can't get married without the family ponying up the money for a Uni degree, house and car. And no family connections for working your way up independantly? Good luck.
PsiChick
2012-02-12 08:06:52 PM
zzrhardy
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PsiChick: Actually, this makes sense.
Doesn't mean shiat for a Chinese guy orphan.
You pretty much can't get married without the family ponying up the money for a Uni degree, house and car. And no family connections for working your way up independantly? Good luck.
Baby steps.
/Not to make a pun or anything...
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