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(Yahoo) Stupid I've seen some trolling in my time but when a Yahoo Movie columnist writes that the Star Wars prequels are superior to the original trilogy well that's, that's just his opinion man   (movies.yahoo.com) divider line 127
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2012-02-11 07:54:59 PM
If I had my way, he'd be thrown head first into a sarlacc pit.
 
2012-02-11 08:09:00 PM
A Challenger to Armond White appears?
 
2012-02-11 08:29:44 PM
He is entitled to his opinion. And we are entitled to beat the crap out of him for it.
 
2012-02-11 08:37:24 PM
Does subby own a rug that really tied the room together?
 
2012-02-11 08:46:54 PM
His lack of faith disturbs me...
 
2012-02-11 09:00:04 PM
You are so blind! You so do not understand! You weren't there at the beginning. You don't know how good it was! How important! This is it for you! This jumped-up firework display of a toy advert! People like you make me sick! What's wrong with you?! Now, I don't care if you've saved up all your 50ps, take your pocket money, and GET OUT!
 
2012-02-11 09:00:44 PM
ArkAngel: He is entitled to his opinion. And we are entitled to beat the crap out of him for it.

There's a difference between someone coming to an informed decision about something and being insane.

Not all opinions are equally valid.
 
2012-02-11 09:03:28 PM
He's just click-whoring.

I didn't click the link.
 
2012-02-11 09:06:54 PM
Yahoo 'news' and related content has been nothing but crap for sometime now.

/DRTFA because it's YAHOO!!
 
2012-02-11 09:11:36 PM
I'm not clicking that mess.

My son is 4 years old. By the time "Star Wars" (pointedly NOT "ANH") is re-released in 2016, he'll be exactly the right age to see it for the first time.

I may not be able to control much in this world, but I sure as hell can make sure my son's first Star Wars experience doesn't involve Jar Jar or whatever the hell those fish things are.
 
2012-02-11 09:12:51 PM
Armond White-like typing detected
 
2012-02-11 09:13:54 PM
I have a pretty gullible friend. He keeps trying to tell me how wrong Armond White is. I'm like "dude, he does this just to piss you off." He doesn't get it and thinks White is serious.
 
2012-02-11 09:13:58 PM
The third one with Tom Stoppard on board is by far the most coherent.
 
2012-02-11 09:14:58 PM
This is trolling at is finest. I like how he manages to link 9/11 to the Star Wars prequels, that's pretty clever but also going a bit too far to be believable.

9/10
 
2012-02-11 09:16:15 PM
FirstNationalBastard: A Challenger to Armond White appears?

My sentiments exactly.
 
2012-02-11 09:24:27 PM
TS;dnr


// to stupid ; did not read.
 
2012-02-11 09:27:03 PM
Looks like the check cleared.
 
2012-02-11 09:31:39 PM
Holy crap what a douche. The thing is, if he's a film school wanker, I can totally see his point, you could make an argument that the new trilogy is way more sociopolitical than the old one. That may make them more "relevant" or "important" but not better.The distinction being that, um, movies also need to be good. A "point," especially a political point does NOT insure quality. And the new trilogy were just not good movies.
 
2012-02-11 09:32:46 PM
The difference is that the original trilogy appealed directly to the simplistic moral perspective of an America above reproach and always on the side of right in global geopolitics, whereas the much more subversive prequel trilogy stands in defiant counterpoint to the much more dangerously simplistic moral absolutism of the Age of Bush.

No, you idiot. The original trilogy worked because it followed the classic archetype of western mythos that's been well-established over thousands of years, whereas the prequels were a gibbering incomprehensible mess that offered no clear-cut characters who changed except in the most superficial ways, and were an example of bad filmmaking. Trying to squeeze topical politicism into an argument for or against the films is beyond stupid.
 
2012-02-11 09:34:57 PM
Sorry, subby. That is NO one's opinion. That's what makes it a troll.
 
2012-02-11 09:38:21 PM
I actually heard someone this week try to make a argument for Return of the Jedi, the 2nd best Star Wars movie, as the worst of all six. Of course, he also seemed to think Attack of the Clones was better than Phantom Menace, so we know all about his level of taste.
 
2012-02-11 09:38:55 PM
OnlyM3: TS;dnr


// to stupid ; did not read.


ISWYDT
 
2012-02-11 09:40:30 PM
JosephFinn: I actually heard someone this week try to make a argument for Return of the Jedi, the 2nd best Star Wars movie, as the worst of all six. Of course, he also seemed to think Attack of the Clones was better than Phantom Menace, so we know all about his level of taste.

Goodness rankings of the six movies

1. ESB
2. ANH
3. RotS
4. RotJ
5. TPM
6. AotC
 
2012-02-11 09:41:01 PM
Of course the original films are vastly superior. But I don't feel they are, almost 30 years after Jedi was released, worthy of weekly discussion threads.

Maybe I'm just jealous that I'll never have a film, album, etc. that I love as much as some people love Star Wars. I really wonder what it's like.
 
2012-02-11 09:43:08 PM
ArkAngel: 1. ESB
2. ANH
3. RotS
4. RotJ
5. TPM
6. AotC


1) ANH
2) ESB
3) RotJ
4-6) It doesn't matter, they were all garbage.
 
2012-02-11 09:43:09 PM
...
 
2012-02-11 09:44:32 PM
They certainly weren't any worse.
 
2012-02-11 09:47:09 PM
The prequels are better movies. As usual, the best art is not understood by most people.
 
2012-02-11 09:47:19 PM
www.duneseatimes.com

Nope, there's no surpassing ^ this ^. ESB FTW.
 
2012-02-11 09:47:22 PM
For technical quality, of course the prequel is better. As for the acting, the original trilogy was far better. For writing, both trilogies have their weak points and strong points. The best episode of the prequel is "The Clone Wars." The best episode of all is "The Empire Strikes Back." More than 30 years old and it still holds up very well.

It's funny to see the two trilogies compared to each other. Audiences now are much more technically savvy -- and just plain nitpicky -- than they were back in 1977 when the first movie came out. In a way, people nowadays are much more jaded when it comes to their blockbuster movies, so they're far more demanding. When the original "Star Wars" came out, no one knew what to expect. Its success caught Hollywood completely off guard. There were theaters that showed the first movie for more than six months straight in its first release. I saw it in May, and then again in October or November at the same theater, still playing on the same screen.

Say what you will about the original trilogy. The success of "Star Wars" had Hollywood scrambling to bring something similar to television. The result was the original "Battlestar Galactica" on ABC. If it wasn't for that show, we wouldn't have had the excellent re-boot version of that series a few years back.

I know it's a cliche to bring up the significant impact of the original "Star Wars", but it is still true. It was a HUGE success when it came out. It filled a void in our collective psyche and its impact is still being felt today, even though people who weren't alive back then just take it all for granted now.
 
2012-02-11 09:47:58 PM
The single scene at the ballet with Palpatine seducing Anakin is superior to anything in the original series, if you mute Anakin's lines.
 
2012-02-11 09:53:37 PM
ArkAngel: Goodness rankings of the six movies

1. ESB
2. ANH
3. RotS
4. RotJ
5. TPM
6. AotC


1. Empire
2. New Hope
3. Jedi
4. Revenge of the Sith (sorry - he goes from "I'd do anything to save her" to "I will kill you" in like 3 scenes)
5. Clones
94604760975. that pile of crap with the pod race and Liam Neeson. Though Maul was pretty sweet (except the scene on the future-Hoverround)

Is it just me, or is this the general consensus?

// also, all 6 are worth watching with Rifftrax
// I end this post with the name of Jek Tono Porkins on my lips
 
2012-02-11 09:54:13 PM
I'm not even a huge Star Wars fan, but really?!?
 
2012-02-11 09:56:10 PM
Can we just link to Plinkett and be done with it? Is there really anything else that needs to be said?
 
2012-02-11 09:56:40 PM
Bungles: The single scene at the ballet with Palpatine seducing Anakin is superior to anything in the original series, if you mute Anakin's lines.

profile.ak.fbcdn.net
 
2012-02-11 10:00:50 PM
buckler: The difference is that the original trilogy appealed directly to the simplistic moral perspective of an America above reproach and always on the side of right in global geopolitics, whereas the much more subversive prequel trilogy stands in defiant counterpoint to the much more dangerously simplistic moral absolutism of the Age of Bush.

No, you idiot. The original trilogy worked because it followed the classic archetype of western mythos that's been well-established over thousands of years, whereas the prequels were a gibbering incomprehensible mess that offered no clear-cut characters who changed except in the most superficial ways, and were an example of bad filmmaking. Trying to squeeze topical politicism into an argument for or against the films is beyond stupid.


"He's wrong, because he's right!"

Two cents, indeed.
 
2012-02-11 10:01:28 PM
pedant.artoflivin.sk
 
2012-02-11 10:01:34 PM
t3knomanser: ArkAngel: 1. ESB
2. ANH
3. RotS
4. RotJ
5. TPM
6. AotC

1) ANH
2) ESB
3) RotJ
4-6) It doesn't matter, they were all garbage.


^^^^
 
2012-02-11 10:02:27 PM
"Twat Makes Fark coonts Froth."
 
2012-02-11 10:06:01 PM
JosephFinn: I actually heard someone this week try to make a argument for Return of the Jedi, the 2nd best Star Wars movie, as the worst of all six. Of course, he also seemed to think Attack of the Clones was better than Phantom Menace, so we know all about his level of taste.

All Jedi had was a bunch of muppets.

towrowrow.tripod.com
 
2012-02-11 10:06:13 PM
hit submit too fast!


best way to explain:

Star Wars
The Empire Strikes Back
Kenner Commercial

the NyQuils:
the Peadoracer Menace
Attack of the Chrohns
Revenge of the Shiath


I walked out of Jedi after the awesome "wishbone scene" and didn't see it in it's entirety until ten years later because it was stuck in a vcr in a cabin i was at. The only reason I sat through the crap was that I was on Mushrooms and it was funneh.

I watched attack because it had Boba Fake in it...


two movies...the rest are total crap.

Empire was written by Leigh Brackett which is why it was so bloody awesome.

zzzzzzz

/waits for Han shiat first crew...
 
2012-02-11 10:06:25 PM
Has anyone mentioned that the person who wrote this article is a dimwit?
 
2012-02-11 10:10:36 PM
I'm just gonna go on record and say that the first Star Wars movie should be called "Star Wars," not "A New Hope." I don't give a rat's ass what fanboys think. That's what it was called when I saw it the theater in '77, and that's what it'll always be.

Get off my lawn, you scruffy-looking nerf herders.
 
2012-02-11 10:11:35 PM
buckler: The difference is that the original trilogy appealed directly to the simplistic moral perspective of an America above reproach and always on the side of right in global geopolitics, whereas the much more subversive prequel trilogy stands in defiant counterpoint to the much more dangerously simplistic moral absolutism of the Age of Bush.

No, you idiot. The original trilogy worked because it followed the classic archetype of western mythos that's been well-established over thousands of years, whereas the prequels were a gibbering incomprehensible mess that offered no clear-cut characters who changed except in the most superficial ways, and were an example of bad filmmaking. Trying to squeeze topical politicism into an argument for or against the films is beyond stupid.


no no..you mean anarcho syndicalism versus inverted totalitarianism..
your concept of the Hegelian model in sci fi just doesn't hold up in the real world...

so you are both big dummies

/Han Shiat first!
//know how i know he was a replicant?
 
2012-02-11 10:12:23 PM
Nowhere in the original "Star Wars" trilogy is there any sequence of events nearly as profound in their application to real life as Palpatine's manipulative orchestration of the separatist movement "headed" by Count Dooku.

Seriously, is that it takes to make a film superior? That it has somewhat of an application to real life, no matter how poorly and clumsily it is done?

The prequel trilogy sucked ass.

/What-a-prick.
 
2012-02-11 10:13:18 PM
Regardless of what I may think of his opinions, there is nothing that soothes the soul more than watching nerds get all frothed up when someone likes what they hate.
 
2012-02-11 10:13:54 PM
buckler: The difference is that the original trilogy appealed directly to the simplistic moral perspective of an America above reproach and always on the side of right in global geopolitics, whereas the much more subversive prequel trilogy stands in defiant counterpoint to the much more dangerously simplistic moral absolutism of the Age of Bush.

No, you idiot. The original trilogy worked because it followed the classic archetype of western mythos that's been well-established over thousands of years, whereas the prequels were a gibbering incomprehensible mess that offered no clear-cut characters who changed except in the most superficial ways, and were an example of bad filmmaking. Trying to squeeze topical politicism into an argument for or against the films is beyond stupid.


He should leave that to Breitbart
 
2012-02-11 10:14:24 PM
www.angelfire.lycos.com

The acklay laughs at this tomfoolery.

/best and only good thing about AotC, at least the prequels gave us some cool creatures
 
2012-02-11 10:15:41 PM
Oh, fark you, angelfire.

www.archives-alliance.com

Unamused acklay is unamused.
 
2012-02-11 10:20:51 PM
1) Empire Strikes Back
2) A New Hope
3) Return of the Jedi
4) The Clone Wars (TV series)
5) The Clone Wars (Movie)
6) Revenge of the Sith
7) Attack of the Clones
8) Star Wars Holiday Special
9) The Phantom Menace
 
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