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(MSNBC) Obvious CPAC straw poll: Romney wins, but finishing in number 2 is Santorum   (firstread.msnbc.msn.com) divider line 73
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2012-02-11 05:38:33 PM
Something something.... "running closely behind"...
 
2012-02-11 05:47:57 PM
Why the hell did Paul not participate? He dominates straw polls thanks to his strangely devoted following of Paultards who love to take over these things. I wonder if GOP leadership is getting scared about Romney being hammered on all sides for being on all sides and bribed him out of it.
 
2012-02-11 05:56:37 PM
I just googled santorum...just doing my part to keep him on top
 
2012-02-11 06:08:01 PM
If I had to vote for a republican I'd choose romney, gingrich, or paul 1000 times each before choosing santorum.
 
2012-02-11 06:13:06 PM
encyclopediaplushuman: If I had to vote for a republican I'd choose romney, gingrich, or paul 1000 times each before choosing santorum.

I'm going to vote for a Republican next month, and I'm probably voting for Santorum.
 
2012-02-11 06:13:44 PM
GAT_00: Why the hell did Paul not participate? He dominates straw polls thanks to his strangely devoted following of Paultards who love to take over these things. I wonder if GOP leadership is getting scared about Romney being hammered on all sides for being on all sides and bribed him out of it.

At this point, Ron Paul is passively supporting Romney, and will throw his delegates to Romney at the convention, in exchange for Rand getting the VP nod, in order to give the Romney ticket some traction with the Tea Party.

They're basically trying to re-run 2008, in hopes that it comes out different this time.
 
2012-02-11 06:16:05 PM
GAT_00: Why the hell did Paul not participate? He dominates straw polls thanks to his strangely devoted following of Paultards who love to take over these things. I wonder if GOP leadership is getting scared about Romney being hammered on all sides for being on all sides and bribed him out of it.

Maddow interviewed a guy from Paul's campaign last night. Thanks to the strange rules for assigning delegates at the precinct, county, and then state levels, he's basically claiming that Paul has the majority of delegates right now.

/subby
 
2012-02-11 06:17:27 PM
DeltaPunch: he's basically claiming that Paul has the majority of delegates right now.

Yeah, I saw that one. Hilarious.

FloydA: in exchange for Rand getting the VP nod

Oh God please no. Tard Jr. might be even worse than Palin.
 
2012-02-11 07:18:56 PM
GAT_00:
FloydA: in exchange for Rand getting the VP nod

Oh God please no. Tard Jr. might be even worse than Palin.


That's the only angle I can see him working that actually makes any sense. He's the only one still running who isn't taking pot shots at Raw money. Can you think of a better explanation?

And when you say "worse than Palin," remember to ask "worse for who?" Raw money has already alienated most of the GOP base, the only people he has left to alienate are the moderates and independents.

Raw money basically has to choose a derper for his running mate if he wants to try to hold the Reagan era "anti-tax" and "social issues" coalition together. I guess Scott Walker will be looking for a job soon, but I would be willing to bet that Paul is already doing some behind the scenes negotiating to get Rand on the short list.
 
2012-02-11 08:39:30 PM
Who cares? They're all the same. Might as well re-elect Obama.
 
2012-02-11 08:45:24 PM
Torgo_of_Manos: I just googled santorum...just doing my part to keep him on top

Are you sure he's a top?
 
2012-02-11 08:46:35 PM
FloydA: GAT_00: Why the hell did Paul not participate? He dominates straw polls thanks to his strangely devoted following of Paultards who love to take over these things. I wonder if GOP leadership is getting scared about Romney being hammered on all sides for being on all sides and bribed him out of it.

At this point, Ron Paul is passively supporting Romney, and will throw his delegates to Romney at the convention, in exchange for Rand getting the VP nod, in order to give the Romney ticket some traction with the Tea Party.

They're basically trying to re-run 2008, in hopes that it comes out different this time.


No way. Santorum will be the runny mate.
 
2012-02-11 08:47:36 PM
Can anyone explain what it means that Romney won the "nonbinding Maine caucus straw poll"?

So the caucus is the usual pile of mystery, but they also had a vote just cause, and Romney won it?
 
2012-02-11 08:53:46 PM
Karma Chameleon: FloydA: GAT_00: Why the hell did Paul not participate? He dominates straw polls thanks to his strangely devoted following of Paultards who love to take over these things. I wonder if GOP leadership is getting scared about Romney being hammered on all sides for being on all sides and bribed him out of it.

At this point, Ron Paul is passively supporting Romney, and will throw his delegates to Romney at the convention, in exchange for Rand getting the VP nod, in order to give the Romney ticket some traction with the Tea Party.

They're basically trying to re-run 2008, in hopes that it comes out different this time.

No way. Santorum will be the runny mate.


www.vacationideas.me
 
2012-02-11 08:58:15 PM
FloydA: GAT_00: Why the hell did Paul not participate? He dominates straw polls thanks to his strangely devoted following of Paultards who love to take over these things. I wonder if GOP leadership is getting scared about Romney being hammered on all sides for being on all sides and bribed him out of it.

At this point, Ron Paul is passively supporting Romney, and will throw his delegates to Romney at the convention, in exchange for Rand getting the VP nod, in order to give the Romney ticket some traction with the Tea Party.

They're basically trying to re-run 2008, in hopes that it comes out different this time.


Interesting theory. But a Romney/Paul ticket will not fly with evangelicals. It just won't.
 
2012-02-11 09:00:50 PM
DeltaPunch: GAT_00: Why the hell did Paul not participate? He dominates straw polls thanks to his strangely devoted following of Paultards who love to take over these things. I wonder if GOP leadership is getting scared about Romney being hammered on all sides for being on all sides and bribed him out of it.

Maddow interviewed a guy from Paul's campaign last night. Thanks to the strange rules for assigning delegates at the precinct, county, and then state levels, he's basically claiming that Paul has the majority of delegates right now.

/subby



Which, if true, is a stunningly stupid thing to brag about on national TV. Surely the chief merit of this approach is stealth.
 
2012-02-11 09:01:55 PM
TheMadChaosopher: GAT_00: Why the hell did Paul not participate? He dominates straw polls thanks to his strangely devoted following of Paultards who love to take over these things. I wonder if GOP leadership is getting scared about Romney being hammered on all sides for being on all sides and bribed him out of it.

Paul has been blacklisted from CPAC because he keeps winning, and "conservatives" hate Ron Paul because his supporters "rig the polls" by showing up to vote for him and donating record-breaking amounts of money to him.


He does rig the polls.
 
2012-02-11 09:02:25 PM
How long has subby been waiting to use that headline?
 
2012-02-11 09:05:37 PM
GAT_00: TheMadChaosopher: GAT_00: Why the hell did Paul not participate? He dominates straw polls thanks to his strangely devoted following of Paultards who love to take over these things. I wonder if GOP leadership is getting scared about Romney being hammered on all sides for being on all sides and bribed him out of it.

Paul has been blacklisted from CPAC because he keeps winning, and "conservatives" hate Ron Paul because his supporters "rig the polls" by showing up to vote for him and donating record-breaking amounts of money to him.

He does rig the polls.


I thought santorum was the pole rigger?
 
2012-02-11 09:06:49 PM
Both sides of the GOP races are bad.
Vote Obama.
 
2012-02-11 09:09:41 PM
Dafatone: Can anyone explain what it means that Romney won the "nonbinding Maine caucus straw poll"?

So the caucus is the usual pile of mystery, but they also had a vote just cause, and Romney won it?


Loosely speaking, people gather in rooms to vote, and these votes are reported by the media. The voters then select precinct delegates, who vote for county delegates, who then vote for the final delegates in a state convention. Non of the delegates along this chain are bound to a candidate.

So, a lot of active Ron Paul supporters at the precinct level could end up getting him a larger share of the final delegates than reported initially from the popular vote.
 
2012-02-11 09:16:13 PM
Dafatone: Can anyone explain what it means that Romney won the "nonbinding Maine circus straw poll"?

So the circus is the usual pile of clownery, but they also had a vote just cause, and Romney won it?


Fixed this for you.
 
2012-02-11 09:17:58 PM
Who cares? A bunch of farking racist shiatheads who pride themselves on how many times they flush a farking toliet or how much water they waste when the shower occasionally. Who can take these moron farks seriously?

/Seriously. They are staking out their political battle on toilet tank capacity. Toilet tank capacity. Not jobs. Toilet tanks and poop.
 
2012-02-11 09:19:46 PM
bugontherug: Interesting theory. But a Romney/Paul ticket will not fly with evangelicals. It just won't.

Didn't they all get raptured last year?
 
2012-02-11 09:30:45 PM
Paul got 12% of the vote and 100% of the delegates.
 
2012-02-11 09:35:01 PM
Guidette Frankentits: Both sides of the GOP races are bad.
Vote Obama.


Both parties are bad. Vote Chthulu. If we're going full evil, why vote for the lesser one?
 
2012-02-11 09:37:29 PM
This is the best they can come up with to beat an empty suit usurper with no leadership skills.
 
2012-02-11 09:52:25 PM
Karma Chameleon: FloydA: GAT_00: Why the hell did Paul not participate? He dominates straw polls thanks to his strangely devoted following of Paultards who love to take over these things. I wonder if GOP leadership is getting scared about Romney being hammered on all sides for being on all sides and bribed him out of it.

At this point, Ron Paul is passively supporting Romney, and will throw his delegates to Romney at the convention, in exchange for Rand getting the VP nod, in order to give the Romney ticket some traction with the Tea Party.

They're basically trying to re-run 2008, in hopes that it comes out different this time.

No way. Santorum will be the runny mate.


Awesome, +1
 
2012-02-11 09:53:25 PM
FloydA: GAT_00: Why the hell did Paul not participate? He dominates straw polls thanks to his strangely devoted following of Paultards who love to take over these things. I wonder if GOP leadership is getting scared about Romney being hammered on all sides for being on all sides and bribed him out of it.

At this point, Ron Paul is passively supporting Romney, and will throw his delegates to Romney at the convention, in exchange for Rand getting the VP nod, in order to give the Romney ticket some traction with the Tea Party.

They're basically trying to re-run 2008, in hopes that it comes out different this time.


Are you taking bets on this? If so I'd like to get in on it.
 
2012-02-11 09:56:32 PM
TheMadChaosopher: GAT_00: Why the hell did Paul not participate? He dominates straw polls thanks to his strangely devoted following of Paultards who love to take over these things. I wonder if GOP leadership is getting scared about Romney being hammered on all sides for being on all sides and bribed him out of it.

Paul has been blacklisted from CPAC because he keeps winning, and "conservatives" hate Ron Paul because his supporters "rig the polls" by showing up to vote for him and donating record-breaking amounts of money to him.


No. It is because of his racism and stupid foreign policy positions


I will vote for Obama before Paul.
 
2012-02-11 10:00:12 PM
So, basically, the random up/down cycle of the primaries for everyone but Romney continues, while Romney basically chugs along letting the momentum of his cash pool slowly drag him up to the top spot?

Sounds pretty much par for the course this election.

And, really, I have no objections. Romney is at least fundamentally a reasonable, non-zealot kind of guy, he'll add to the general election debates in a way that the crazier ones (Santorum) and the ones with their heads up their own asses (Paul, Newt) would not. I mean, he's going to _lose_, but that's been inevitable since the nominations were first announced. It's down to who will actually cause Obama to outline and clarify his positions to win the debates at this point, and Romney's the closest they're offering.
 
2012-02-11 10:03:21 PM
Savage left "finishing" out of the definition because no one will be satisfied by Rick.
 
2012-02-11 10:03:50 PM
I am really hoping Gingrich wins Ohio. I don't think Gingrich has a shot at being president, and it would really hurt Mitt. If Gingrich gets Ohio, he will stay in the race, bleeding Mitt right up to the convention.

Newt is a horrible, horrible man. Horrible. And still it's better to throw votes his way than to vote for Frothy. That man should have no voice in politics.
 
2012-02-11 10:04:16 PM
Headline of the year candidate, subby, subtle and sick. Best use of the Santorum meme I've seen without being outright vulgar.
 
2012-02-11 10:04:16 PM
Jim_Callahan: It's down to who will actually cause Obama to outline and clarify his positions to win the debates at this point, and Romney's the closest they're offering.

I can't wait until the debate health care.
 
2012-02-11 10:15:23 PM
Karma Chameleon: Santorum will be the runny mate.

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// and one for subby, too
 
2012-02-11 10:39:05 PM
NewportBarGuy: Jim_Callahan: It's down to who will actually cause Obama to outline and clarify his positions to win the debates at this point, and Romney's the closest they're offering.

I can't wait until the debate health care.


Yeah, since Romney has an established record on the subject it'll turn into an actual discussion/argument over the actual specifics of the various legislation, instead of just "zOMG Soshlizm" versus the verbal equivalent of repeated face-palms.
 
2012-02-11 11:00:36 PM
bugontherug: FloydA:

They're basically trying to re-run 2008, in hopes that it comes out different this time.


Interesting theory. But a Romney/Paul ticket will not fly with evangelicals. It just won't.


Exactly. The Norquist ("no taxes on rich people, profits uber alles") faction never liked the evangelical ("no abortions, no brown people, Jesus uber alles") faction (and vice versa). The GOP now thinks that it has the evengelicals and can do whatever they want because "the Jesus Campers will never vote for a Democrat," in the same way that the Democrats thought that they had the environmentalists because the "tree huggers will never vote for a Republican."

The thing is, the old coalitions are falling apart. A lot of the Jesus heads really want their local roads to be paved and their grannies to have dialysis. They are realizing that the moneybags GOPers aren't going to provide that, and in fact plan to take away what little help that granny is getting.

The "no-taxes" mantra is not strong enough to keep the Jesus fans allied with the old money Republicans. We're really looking at exactly the sort of splintering of the GOP that Goldwater warned them about.

And I'm not at all upset about that, TBH.
 
2012-02-11 11:13:35 PM
If I take Santorum TM, will I get an erection that lasts more than four hours?

/Maybe this comment should have been posted in the cheerleader thread on the main page.
//Combination of the two stories?
///Ewwwwww.....
 
2012-02-11 11:17:32 PM
What in The: If I take Santorum TM, will I get an erection that lasts more than four hours?

/Maybe this comment should have been posted in the cheerleader thread on the main page.
//Combination of the two stories?
///Ewwwwww.....


Good lord. You'll be lucky if you can get one.
 
2012-02-11 11:36:17 PM
FloydA: bugontherug: FloydA:

They're basically trying to re-run 2008, in hopes that it comes out different this time.

Interesting theory. But a Romney/Paul ticket will not fly with evangelicals. It just won't.

Exactly. The Norquist ("no taxes on rich people, profits uber alles") faction never liked the evangelical ("no abortions, no brown people, Jesus uber alles") faction (and vice versa). The GOP now thinks that it has the evengelicals and can do whatever they want because "the Jesus Campers will never vote for a Democrat," in the same way that the Democrats thought that they had the environmentalists because the "tree huggers will never vote for a Republican."

The thing is, the old coalitions are falling apart. A lot of the Jesus heads really want their local roads to be paved and their grannies to have dialysis. They are realizing that the moneybags GOPers aren't going to provide that, and in fact plan to take away what little help that granny is getting.

The "no-taxes" mantra is not strong enough to keep the Jesus fans allied with the old money Republicans. We're really looking at exactly the sort of splintering of the GOP that Goldwater warned them about.

And I'm not at all upset about that, TBH.


I am eagerly awaiting the rise of the States' Rights Republican and Southern Republican splinter parties.
 
2012-02-11 11:49:00 PM
GAT_00: encyclopediaplushuman: If I had to vote for a republican I'd choose romney, gingrich, or paul 1000 times each before choosing santorum.

I'm going to vote for a Republican next month, and I'm probably voting for Santorum.


just bring a moist towlette for afterwards
 
2012-02-11 11:58:10 PM
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2012-02-12 12:08:35 AM
Amos Quito: [i1121.photobucket.com image 373x398]

Onion-esque article copy detected.

/Like the comment in the last paragraph.
 
2012-02-12 12:11:59 AM
Sick to death of Santorum headlines, but finishing in number two is probably the best one I've ever seen.
 
2012-02-12 01:00:11 AM
bugontherug: Interesting theory. But a Romney/Paul ticket will not fly with evangelicals. It just won't.

Don't be stupid. What are they going to do, vote Democrat? Not vote? Well, maybe not vote, but I wouldn't put money on it. Voter turnout for righties is more consistent than lefties.
 
2012-02-12 01:12:18 AM
Amos Quito:

If we did a word analysis of your fark posts, would the word Zionist appear towards the top of the frequency chart?

Sup with that?
 
2012-02-12 01:19:42 AM
keithgabryelski: Amos Quito:

If we did a word analysis of your fark posts, would the word Zionist appear towards the top of the frequency chart?

Sup with that?


He doesn't like Zionists?
 
2012-02-12 01:46:05 AM
I've discovered in recent days that there are actually people out there who don't know just how anti-gay Santorum is. I made a sarcastic comment about Santorum on somebody's facebook post and had to actually cite sources showing that Santorum thinks Lawrence v. Texas is unconstitutional, and that yes, that means he thinks states should be allowed to criminalize homosexuality. And it was a Santorum supporter who wouldn't believe me on it. How is it possible that people are supporting this guy, google problem and all, and don't know this?
 
2012-02-12 02:02:12 AM
rynthetyn: I've discovered in recent days that there are actually people out there who don't know just how anti-gay Santorum is. I made a sarcastic comment about Santorum on somebody's facebook post and had to actually cite sources showing that Santorum thinks Lawrence v. Texas is unconstitutional, and that yes, that means he thinks states should be allowed to criminalize homosexuality. And it was a Santorum supporter who wouldn't believe me on it. How is it possible that people are supporting this guy, google problem and all, and don't know this?

Socialism. That's all you need to know.
 
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