Most of Kevin Anderson's stuff is in shared universes he had no hand in creating. Are you sure his mind's not for rent?

This implies that Rush is getting all concepty with this album. Could be interesting.

JasonOfOrillia: This implies that Rush is getting all concepty with this album. Could be interesting.

THIS.

They have said in interviews that they wanted it to go that way. This could reach 2112 proportions here.

Good to see a few Rush fans on Fark anyway.

I hope this is done well. I would love to see the Cygnus X1 songs fleshed out in a book.

I just hope this album isn't another collection of songs that are variants of Far Cry and they let Alex get back to playing the guitar.

Isn't he the one who basically wrote all the Dune prequels and conclusion? (I heard Brian Herbert authors credit was mostly to play up name recognition)

If so, I'll give him a chance. He's not an epic saga level writer but he's competent enough to put out a solid and readable yarn.

But Rush? Meh. I still don't understand their geek cred. A decent band and a few good songs, okay. But why the 60's era Beatles girl fangirl like love?

They've already said its a concept album. And, I'd like a good novel based on 2112 actually. (well, I"VE written one, but i dont count)

2112 is mentioned at length in Ready Player One (pops) by Ernest Cline. (Audio book narrated by Wil Wheaton)

pretty good stuff, too

BroVinny: Most of Kevin Anderson's stuff is in shared universes he had no hand in creating. Are you sure his mind's not for rent?

He has to choose whether it is or not. Let's hope he chooses free will.

Pancoaifo: But Rush? Meh. I still don't understand their geek cred. A decent band and a few good songs, okay. But why the 60's era Beatles girl fangirl like love?

Don't worry about it. If you don't get it, it's probably just not for you. Us geeks and fangirls will get by without your approval or understanding. I'm sure there are plenty of really good bands who play many really good songs out there who would love your support. Us misfits will take care of keeping the boys in gas and beer money.

SilentStrider:

the two new songs are pretty killer live, I have to say.

I would have to agree. The theatrics with BU2B where farking spectacular.

radiovox: Pancoaifo: Isn't he the one who basically wrote all the Dune prequels and conclusion? (I heard Brian Herbert authors credit was mostly to play up name recognition)

If so, I'll give him a chance. He's not an epic saga level writer but he's competent enough to put out a solid and readable yarn.

But Rush? Meh. I still don't understand their geek cred. A decent band and a few good songs, okay. But why the 60's era Beatles girl fangirl like love?

Yeah, Rush certainly isn't for everyone and for many, they're an aquired taste. I was an early adaptor of Rush. 1975, second grade, Fly By Night album just came out. I was hooked then and always have been, even through their changes of sound and style. There is a geekiness quality, for sure.

I used to hate Geddy's voice, but moving pictures grabbed changed all that.

bogey: Pancoaifo: But Rush? Meh. I still don't understand their geek cred. A decent band and a few good songs, okay. But why the 60's era Beatles girl fangirl like love?

Don't worry about it. If you don't get it, it's probably just not for you. Us geeks and fangirls will get by without your approval or understanding. I'm sure there are plenty of really good bands who play many really good songs out there who would love your support. Us misfits will take care of keeping the boys in gas and beer money.

I'd also point out that as a band each of the three are in limited company insofar as outright skill at playing their instruments.

/has nothing to do with song writing ability but it's quite unusual.

radiovox: Pancoaifo: Isn't he the one who basically wrote all the Dune prequels and conclusion? (I heard Brian Herbert authors credit was mostly to play up name recognition)

If so, I'll give him a chance. He's not an epic saga level writer but he's competent enough to put out a solid and readable yarn.

But Rush? Meh. I still don't understand their geek cred. A decent band and a few good songs, okay. But why the 60's era Beatles girl fangirl like love?

Yeah, Rush certainly isn't for everyone and for many, they're an aquired taste. I was an early adaptor of Rush. 1975, second grade, Fly By Night album just came out. I was hooked then and always have been, even through their changes of sound and style. There is a geekiness quality, for sure.

I dig some of their stuff, especially after a friend pointed out some of the drumming technique (Not a drummer myself but I appreciate any technical musical proficiency) but it just didn't grab me enough to even go out and buy an album.

I did catch hell because said friend made me listen to one of their albums and about track 4 or 5, I commented the girl's voice had a weird quality to it.

Yeah, my buddy had fun with that ...

Maybe I need to give them another try.

But anyway, where does the geek aspect come from? I'm just not connecting the dots on that.

More than ten comments without a reference to salesmen? Fark, I am disappoint.


/new track sounds great
//weaned on Moving Pictures
///2.1.12 was a great day to be a fan

zez: I just hope this album isn't another collection of songs that are variants of Far Cry and they let Alex get back to playing the guitar.

Oh, you mean S&A?

Yeah, I hear ya. I like Armor and Sword and Workin Them Angels, but the rest of the album fell flat for me. Not one I replay a lot :(

GAT_00: I also think Presto is a heavily underrated album.

One of my favs...helps that it was also the first concert I ever went to

/Got hooked on them in the mid-80's

theorellior: After Test for Echo, it took a while for me to give Vapor Trails a listen, and it took a bit before I was able to get into it. However, I think the band's found a pretty good groove after dealing with Neil's personal tragedies. It probably would have destroyed other bands.

In other words, I'm okay with this!

It desperately needs to be remastered. Sadly, with the want to get this out so quickly, and the style at the time was to make it louder sounding. Alex has said that one day it will receive a proper remaster.

theorellior: radiovox: 1975, second grade, Fly By Night album just came out.

That's pretty hardcore, right there. My conversion came when a friend of mine let me borrow his cassettes in 1986. Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures, Signals, Grace Under Pressure and Power Windows. I still think of those albums as "core Rush".

I agree. Those were the first 5 albums of the 80s, it was a time they were shedding their progressive 70s roots for something more radio-styled and modern sounding, using many new-wave influences on the first 3 albums, then busting out with all the 80s styling on GUP and PW. Hold Your Fire can be included there too.

jimmythrust: ///2.1.12 was a great day to be a fan

That listening party on rushradio.org was great. They did the whole 2112 album.

ZAZ: I remember playing part of Hemispheres for my girlfriend in high school. Not a big hit. She was polite, at least. A little better than the audience in Back to the Future when Marty plays a 1980s guitar solo.

Now how awesome would it have been if he did the guitar riff at the beginning of the Apollo and Dionysius movements?

DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH duh duh duh duh dah duhhhh

I BRING WIT AND WISDOM FAIR
PRECIOUS GIFTS BEYOND COMPARE

GAT_00: Pancoaifo: But anyway, where does the geek aspect come from?

You may want to look over lyrics some time. For example, 2112, By-Tor and the Snow Dog, Rivendell, Countdown, Subdivisions, The Necromancer, or both parts of Cygnus X-1.

Ah, gotcha. I've never paid a lot of attention to lyrics.

Love a powerful vocalist but I rarely remember the actual words unless the song has personal associations for me somehow. (Like Chapin's Cats in the Cradle or something)

theorellior: SilentStrider: to this day, I cannot get into a lot of the stuff they did in the 80s. Subdivisions is decent, but between that and Roll The Bones, its just kinda meh for me.

I know, we're all victim of TRICKED BYcircumstances.

The more the things change, the more they stay the same

And I've had my share of arguments when I say this: "Grace Under Pressure" is one of the best Rush albums, hands down.

No argument here. GUP is in my top 5 Rush albums easily. Farking Red Sector A, farking Between The Wheels

radiovox: Pancoaifo: Isn't he the one who basically wrote all the Dune prequels and conclusion? (I heard Brian Herbert authors credit was mostly to play up name recognition)

If so, I'll give him a chance. He's not an epic saga level writer but he's competent enough to put out a solid and readable yarn.

But Rush? Meh. I still don't understand their geek cred. A decent band and a few good songs, okay. But why the 60's era Beatles girl fangirl like love?

Yeah, Rush certainly isn't for everyone and for many, they're an aquired taste. I was an early adaptor of Rush. 1975, second grade, Fly By Night album just came out. I was hooked then and always have been, even through their changes of sound and style. There is a geekiness quality, for sure.

For me it was '76 and All the World's a stage.

A friend and I were in a record store (you see, children, there used to be these black things called records) and, being the mid 70's, we were pretty stoned. I bought the album as a joke ("Dude, they're called Rush") and we went back to his place to smoke some more and listen.

Needless to say we were both huge Rush fans by the end of the night.

theorellior: DanZero: No argument here. GUP is in my top 5 Rush albums easily. Farking Red Sector A, farking Between The Wheels

Basically the whole B side (The Body Electric, Kid Gloves, red lenses and Between the Wheels) is just one ongoing jam. The bassline for red lenses is one of the reasons I picked up bass.

From what I understand, the time around recording GUP was the closest they've come to breaking up. There's a tension in that album that's quite electric.

The whole B side is freakin sweet.

Remember too, they broke ties with their longtime producer Terry Brown after Signals because he didn't like the direction they were going, and they were real desperate in finding someone to replace him. I did hear the breakup rumors somewhere too.

scanman61: radiovox: Pancoaifo: Isn't he the one who basically wrote all the Dune prequels and conclusion? (I heard Brian Herbert authors credit was mostly to play up name recognition)

If so, I'll give him a chance. He's not an epic saga level writer but he's competent enough to put out a solid and readable yarn.

But Rush? Meh. I still don't understand their geek cred. A decent band and a few good songs, okay. But why the 60's era Beatles girl fangirl like love?

Yeah, Rush certainly isn't for everyone and for many, they're an aquired taste. I was an early adaptor of Rush. 1975, second grade, Fly By Night album just came out. I was hooked then and always have been, even through their changes of sound and style. There is a geekiness quality, for sure.

For me it was '76 and All the World's a stage.

A friend and I were in a record store (you see, children, there used to be these black things called records) and, being the mid 70's, we were pretty stoned. I bought the album as a joke ("Dude, they're called Rush") and we went back to his place to smoke some more and listen.

Needless to say we were both huge Rush fans by the end of the night.

ATWAS was probably their most raw sounding, truly LIVE album. The setlists may have been better on later live albums, but nothing captured their early sound quite like that album did.

Whoa, you mean Red Barchetta will finally be in story form? You are like blowing my mind, man.

radiovox: JasonOfOrillia: This implies that Rush is getting all concepty with this album. Could be interesting.

Most of Rush's albums have a theme...not quite to the extent of a concept album like KISS did with The Elder. You can pick nearly any Rush album and novelize it. Neil's lyrics are pretty deep in their meaning (for the most part... Dog Years isn't exactly high brow stuff) but you get my point. I'm glad to see someone doing this.


If there was a pool as deep as the lyrics of "Dog Years", I could stand in it and not get my feet wet.

R Kelly's Doo Doo Butter: I hope this is done well. I would love to see the Cygnus X1 songs fleshed out in a book.

Me, too

radiovox: (for the most part...Dog Years isn't exactly high brow stuff)

Dog Years is probably Rush's worst track EVAR. Never mind that it's on an album I happen to enjoy but many others consider nearly filler.

/Tai Shan from HYF also grinds on me a bit
// the words more than the music, honestly

From Fly By Night to Presto I don't think there is a song on any record that I would always skip by. Then came Test For Echo and the spell was definitely broken.