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2012-02-11 07:03:02 PM  
I came for a post from Tatsuma and leave bitterly disappointed.
 
2012-02-11 07:03:16 PM  

Friction8r: Weaver95: GAT_00: So, either they're expected a revolt, or they're expecting an Israeli attack.

I really hope Israel doesn't get uppity and attack Iran. that would be an exceptionally bad idea.

Why?


Because the rest of the middle east would turn around and kick their asses. Then the US would get sucked into that vortex of blood and insanity.
 
2012-02-11 07:04:16 PM  

Friction8r: Weaver95: GAT_00: So, either they're expected a revolt, or they're expecting an Israeli attack.

I really hope Israel doesn't get uppity and attack Iran. that would be an exceptionally bad idea.

Why?


Because then a certain AW farker will AW every possible thread about the crisis, starting each and every thread with the posting The Rules...

Badges would be made and distributed though, so there is that.
 
2012-02-11 07:07:41 PM  

Friction8r: Weaver95: GAT_00: So, either they're expected a revolt, or they're expecting an Israeli attack.

I really hope Israel doesn't get uppity and attack Iran. that would be an exceptionally bad idea.

Why?


You can't be serious, can you?
The easiest and most ridiculously obvious answer is that a large chunk of the Iranian population is obviously not happy with their hyper-conservative, transparently corrupt, functionally non-democratic, strong-arm government (like many other predominantly Muslim countries have been lately), and the easiest way to kill the people's movement to change from within the country is to galvanize them against an enemy from outside the country.

The young population there is quite west-friendly in attitude.
Don't give them a reason to turn around and hate us, it can only be counter-productive.
 
2012-02-11 07:10:52 PM  

Gawdzila: Weaver95: i'm honestly expecting this to happen to us here in the US. if the Occupy movement continues to gain momentum this year and starts making progress....yeah, I could see the fedgov and/or a couple corporate types deciding to just cut internet access in certain regions.



/Lol, not a chance


Maybe not over Occupy. But keep trusting those with lots of power. They have never been known to abuse it.
 
2012-02-11 07:12:48 PM  

PowerSlacker: I came for a post from Tatsuma and leave bitterly disappointed.


Haven't seen a post from TAT since, ...... I can't remember.
 
2012-02-11 07:15:19 PM  

SquiggelyGrounders: Friction8r: Weaver95: GAT_00: So, either they're expected a revolt, or they're expecting an Israeli attack.

I really hope Israel doesn't get uppity and attack Iran. that would be an exceptionally bad idea.

Why?

Really? "Why?" Really?

Troll?


If someone repeatedly threatens to wipe you off the face of the earth, are you gonna cower in fear, hide in the closet and wait for them to break in and bludgeon you to death?
 
2012-02-11 07:16:13 PM  

Friction8r: If someone repeatedly threatens to wipe you off the face of the earth, are you gonna cower in fear, hide in the closet and wait for them to break in and bludgeon you to death?


This.
 
2012-02-11 07:20:29 PM  
One editorial I read debated the rationality of Israel attacking Iran over their "peaceful" nuclear program.

Sure... Israel can successfully attack Iran, but can they really shut down their nuclear program? Doubtful. Just delay it.

Then what happens?

(1) Israel preemptively attacks Iran which gains the "legitimate ire" of the Middle East and diplomatic condemnation of the world in general (especially Russia, China).
(2) Israel is more susceptible to attacks during a time when there are less western friendly nations. The Arab Spring is a factor in explaining that situation.
(3) Hezbollah, which has an estimated 50000 rockets from Iran, will have free license to attack from Lebanon.
(4) Hamas and/or the P.A. might consider taking advantage of the situation also (P.A. = doubtful, Hamas = possible).
(5) Syria -might- get involved. Depends on the severity of their internal revolt at the moment.
(6) Unlikely with the current administration that the US will be dragged into another ground conflict. At most, we'll keep the Strait of Hormuz open. The spice must flow.
(7) World gas prices will go up. World economic standings will go down.
 
2012-02-11 07:20:34 PM  

Friction8r: SquiggelyGrounders: Friction8r: Weaver95: GAT_00: So, either they're expected a revolt, or they're expecting an Israeli attack.

I really hope Israel doesn't get uppity and attack Iran. that would be an exceptionally bad idea.

Why?

Really? "Why?" Really?

Troll?

If someone repeatedly threatens to wipe you off the face of the earth, are you gonna cower in fear, hide in the closet and wait for them to break in and bludgeon you to death?


1) You must have quoted the wrong post.

2) Still waiting for Iraqi WMDs.
 
2012-02-11 07:21:28 PM  
img.photobucket.com
 
2012-02-11 07:22:34 PM  

WTFDYW: PowerSlacker: I came for a post from Tatsuma and leave bitterly disappointed.

Haven't seen a post from TAT since, ...... I can't remember.


Tatsuma's Iran Update
Last Updated: 2009-06-23
http://sites.google.com/site/tatsumairanupdate/
 
2012-02-11 07:23:16 PM  

Gawdzila: The young population there is quite west-friendly in attitude.


This is the tragedy in all of it. The younger more educated population of this country and the younger Iranians would probably get along just fine if that's all there was.

The old guard of both countries are the ones who want war. Send the broken corrupt old men to go fight their own stupid wars.

Friction8r: If someone repeatedly threatens to wipe you off the face of the earth, are you gonna cower in fear, hide in the closet and wait for them to break in and bludgeon you to death?


If someone is talking shiat to you in a bar, you don't just start punching them in the face.

Besides, it's not exactly like Israel is this poor innocent country that just keeps getting picked on for no reason. No I won't google it for you. Do your own research.
 
2012-02-11 07:27:28 PM  

Weaver95: i'm honestly expecting this to happen to us here in the US. if the Occupy movement continues to gain momentum this year and starts making progress....yeah, I could see the fedgov and/or a couple corporate types deciding to just cut internet access in certain regions.


Um, the occupy movement, as a whole, has been stuck in neutral from day one. They can continue to stomp on the gas if it makes them feel good.
 
2012-02-11 07:27:42 PM  
Best part is they are using Israeli made tech gear they bought via a broker in Denmark to do this!

Israel Didn't Know High-Tech Gear Was Sent to Iran (new window)

//guess they couldn't afford a packeteer or burn a pfsense disk
 
2012-02-11 07:28:29 PM  
i'll believe it when i see the little green band on the fark logo.until then...i'll reserve judgement.
 
2012-02-11 07:28:48 PM  
I bet productivity has surged.
 
2012-02-11 07:28:58 PM  

Espertron: Summon Tats Card


He doesn't roll on shabbos.
 
2012-02-11 07:29:02 PM  

Espertron: (1) Israel preemptively attacks Iran which gains the "legitimate ire" of the Middle East and diplomatic condemnation of the world in general (especially Russia, China).


you know most of the Arab states would love to have Israel strike right? Saudi Arabia especially

Iran is more of a threat to them then to Israel
 
2012-02-11 07:31:23 PM  

InferiousX: Gawdzila: The young population there is quite west-friendly in attitude.

This is the tragedy in all of it. The younger more educated population of this country and the younger Iranians would probably get along just fine if that's all there was.

The old guard of both countries are the ones who want war. Send the broken corrupt old men to go fight their own stupid wars.

Friction8r: If someone repeatedly threatens to wipe you off the face of the earth, are you gonna cower in fear, hide in the closet and wait for them to break in and bludgeon you to death?

If someone is talking shiat to you in a bar, you don't just start punching them in the face.

Besides, it's not exactly like Israel is this poor innocent country that just keeps getting picked on for no reason. No I won't google it for you. Do your own research.


Careful. You might upset tards with poor reading comprehention or wild parinoid sensitards and get accused of antisemitism. Please keep in mind, the Jewish people have suffered throughout history and therefore are above any critisism. Israel can do no wrong.
 
2012-02-11 07:31:25 PM  

Friction8r: If someone repeatedly threatens to wipe you off the face of the earth, are you gonna cower in fear, hide in the closet and wait for them to break in and bludgeon you to death?


No, but despite your laughably simplistic false dichotomy, this isn't a binary choice where they either
a) Do nothing and get clobbered
b) Bomb the shiat out of someone

Anyone with half a brain understands that this is a more complex situation than that.
Iran's government and its threats do not represent the attitude of the majority of its population. But if you start attacking them, it will.
 
2012-02-11 07:31:35 PM  

InferiousX: Gawdzila: The young population there is quite west-friendly in attitude.

This is the tragedy in all of it. The younger more educated population of this country and the younger Iranians would probably get along just fine if that's all there was.

The old guard of both countries are the ones who want war. Send the broken corrupt old men to go fight their own stupid wars...


Well said.
 
2012-02-11 07:35:29 PM  

SquiggelyGrounders: Friction8r: SquiggelyGrounders: Friction8r: Weaver95: GAT_00: So, either they're expected a revolt, or they're expecting an Israeli attack.

I really hope Israel doesn't get uppity and attack Iran. that would be an exceptionally bad idea.

Why?

Really? "Why?" Really?

Troll?

If someone repeatedly threatens to wipe you off the face of the earth, are you gonna cower in fear, hide in the closet and wait for them to break in and bludgeon you to death?

1) You must have quoted the wrong post.

2) Still waiting for Iraqi WMDs.


Whatever. Saddam was hankering for a beatdown, craving a beatdown, yearning for a beatdown - and he got a beatdown. Iran seems to also have masochistic proclivities. It would be great if their citizens rise up against their government, but if not, their leadership is clearly begging for a beatdown.
 
2012-02-11 07:37:28 PM  

InferiousX: Friction8r: If someone repeatedly threatens to wipe you off the face of the earth, are you gonna cower in fear, hide in the closet and wait for them to break in and bludgeon you to death?

If someone is talking shiat to you in a bar, you don't just start punching them in the face.


Your analogy is absurd. F*cking absurd.

You wouldn't apply that logic to the preservation of your own life. No one would.
 
2012-02-11 07:37:28 PM  
I don't think Iran wants the bomb for any external reason, they want to hold the world hostage when internal politics go to shiat. What happened in Egypt, Libya, etc... would not happen in a nuclear armed power. They could kill their own people all day long and no nation would put up a no-fly zone or mess with them. They want it to keep things like the green revolution in place.
 
2012-02-11 07:37:31 PM  

zedster: you know most of the Arab states would love to have Israel strike right? Saudi Arabia especially

Iran is more of a threat to them then to Israel


Acknowledged. But keep in mind you're referring to the legitimate governments of Arab states. There are plenty of underground elements that would take the matter into their own hands. This includes Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Yemen, Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, etc... Probably the one nation that can be counted on not to attack Israel would be Jordan.
 
2012-02-11 07:38:43 PM  
Cyber Command Anonymous to turn off the Iranian govt. in 3....2....1....

/My personal favourite conspiricy theory
 
2012-02-11 07:40:39 PM  

scanman61: Until the time that the US Gov't starts executing people for political speech I'd have to say there really isn't any common ground.


This doesn't count? One was a 16-year-old FFS.

OK, maybe it wasn't for political speech. It's not really clear, as there was no trial.

Do you still think there's no common ground?
 
2012-02-11 07:41:56 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

Just one more war. Last one. Come on, for you I make special deal.

We won't even call it a war, but the name will include "terror", we promise.
 
2012-02-11 07:44:38 PM  

Espertron: [img.photobucket.com image 350x490]


i.imgur.com
 
2012-02-11 07:45:06 PM  

Weaver95: i'm honestly expecting this to happen to us here in the US. if the Occupy movement continues to gain momentum this year and starts making progress....yeah, I could see the fedgov and/or a couple corporate types deciding to just cut internet access in certain regions.


Sure, that makes tons of sense. Instead of just ignoring the occupy movement (like most of the nation is doing), these "corporate types" (???) are going to take actions that will guarantee an explosive negative public outcry; not only legitimizing the occupy movement, but making it grow exponentially. Yeah, that sounds really likely.
 
2012-02-11 07:45:11 PM  

Espertron: One editorial I read debated the rationality of Israel attacking Iran over their "peaceful" nuclear program.

Sure... Israel can successfully attack Iran, but can they really shut down their nuclear program? Doubtful. Just delay it.

Then what happens?

(1) Israel preemptively attacks Iran which gains the "legitimate ire" of the Middle East and diplomatic condemnation of the world in general (especially Russia, China).
(2) Israel is more susceptible to attacks during a time when there are less western friendly nations. The Arab Spring is a factor in explaining that situation.
(3) Hezbollah, which has an estimated 50000 rockets from Iran, will have free license to attack from Lebanon.
(4) Hamas and/or the P.A. might consider taking advantage of the situation also (P.A. = doubtful, Hamas = possible).
(5) Syria -might- get involved. Depends on the severity of their internal revolt at the moment.
(6) Unlikely with the current administration that the US will be dragged into another ground conflict. At most, we'll keep the Strait of Hormuz open. The spice must flow.
(7) World gas prices will go up. World economic standings will go down.


(8) Oil companies will make record profits. Again.
 
2012-02-11 07:45:16 PM  

Robot Eats Towson: Really subs? -> [Scary] <- Really?


Were you around sentient the last time things got a little sketchy in Iran?

Many good people died.

Yes. Scary as hell.
 
2012-02-11 07:46:15 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: InferiousX: Friction8r: If someone repeatedly threatens to wipe you off the face of the earth, are you gonna cower in fear, hide in the closet and wait for them to break in and bludgeon you to death?

If someone is talking shiat to you in a bar, you don't just start punching them in the face.

Your analogy is absurd. F*cking absurd.

You wouldn't apply that logic to the preservation of your own life. No one would.


Yep. Therefore everyone should kill anyone who says something you don't like. But why stop there? We shoulf just off anyone that looks at us funny or has an undesirable appearence. You never know, they just might be planing to attack you.
 
2012-02-11 07:47:48 PM  
Hey, Iran. Stop being dicks.
 
2012-02-11 07:50:04 PM  

Friction8r: SquiggelyGrounders: Friction8r: SquiggelyGrounders: Friction8r: Weaver95: GAT_00: So, either they're expected a revolt, or they're expecting an Israeli attack.

I really hope Israel doesn't get uppity and attack Iran. that would be an exceptionally bad idea.

Why?

Really? "Why?" Really?

Troll?

If someone repeatedly threatens to wipe you off the face of the earth, are you gonna cower in fear, hide in the closet and wait for them to break in and bludgeon you to death?

1) You must have quoted the wrong post.

2) Still waiting for Iraqi WMDs.

Whatever. Saddam was hankering for a beatdown, craving a beatdown, yearning for a beatdown - and he got a beatdown. Iran seems to also have masochistic proclivities. It would be great if their citizens rise up against their government, but if not, their leadership is clearly begging for a beatdown.


Cause they totaly were checking out your girl and dogging you, brosky. And who the fuhk are those assholes? Your dad totaly owns a dealership.
 
2012-02-11 07:52:56 PM  

SquiggelyGrounders: Yep. Therefore everyone should kill anyone who says something you don't like. But why stop there? We shoulf just off anyone that looks at us funny or has an undesirable appearence. You never know, they just might be planning to attack you.


Strawman. Again, absurd.
 
2012-02-11 07:55:11 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: SquiggelyGrounders: Yep. Therefore everyone should kill anyone who says something you don't like. But why stop there? We shoulf just off anyone that looks at us funny or has an undesirable appearence. You never know, they just might be planning to attack you.

Strawman. Again, absurd.


What comes aroud goes around.
 
2012-02-11 08:00:12 PM  
I don't even have Internet access, so I'm getting a kick out of ... wait ...
 
2012-02-11 08:02:12 PM  
Weaver95: i'm honestly expecting this to happen to us here in the US. if the Occupy movement continues to gain momentum this year and starts making progress....yeah, I could see the fedgov and/or a couple corporate types deciding to just cut internet access in certain regions.

*attempt at straight face.*
*snicker*
*Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah*

Oh, Weaver95, you so funny.
 
2012-02-11 08:06:57 PM  
Weaver95: Friction8r: Weaver95: GAT_00: So, either they're expected a revolt, or they're expecting an Israeli attack.

I really hope Israel doesn't get uppity and attack Iran. that would be an exceptionally bad idea.

Why?

Because the rest of the middle east would turn around and kick their asses. Then the US would get sucked into that vortex of blood and insanity.


SquiggelyGrounders: 2) Still waiting for Iraqi WMDs

Sadaam created the image of a state with WMDs, basically to remain a threat to the other countries in the Middle East and keep his own people in line. He basically fed the United States and the world enough bullshiat that they bought it. Unfortunately for him, he didn't realize how batshiat insane George W "Captain Texas" Bush was; nor how bloodthirsty the American public was after 9/11. All it took was one defector with a chip on his shoulder to further the lie, and justify the war.
 
2012-02-11 08:10:39 PM  
no source and no evidence makes article something something.
 
2012-02-11 08:11:06 PM  
If any gorgeous female dissidents want me to repost their blogs, I'd be happy to oblige. Like this one, for instance:

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-02-11 08:14:55 PM  

ronaprhys: Weaver95: i'm honestly expecting this to happen to us here in the US. if the Occupy movement continues to gain momentum this year and starts making progress....yeah, I could see the fedgov and/or a couple corporate types deciding to just cut internet access in certain regions.

I think your tinfoil is starting to show. Pull your skullcap down a bit more.


I agree with Weaver95 half the time, and this is one of them. No tinfoil there.
 
2012-02-11 08:16:08 PM  
whatshisname SmartestFunniest 2012-02-11 06:28:18 PM


Can they still get this site ? (new window)


Umm, Flock of Seagulls, "I'd knock that shiat off if I were you..."

www.operacionmandril.com
 
2012-02-11 08:16:32 PM  

scanman61:

Until the time that the US Gov't starts executing people for political speech I'd have to say there really isn't any common ground.


www.maryferrell.org
 
2012-02-11 08:17:44 PM  

Macular Degenerate: If any gorgeous female dissidents want me to repost their blogs, I'd be happy to oblige. Like this one, for instance:

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 337x400]


That's Raven Riley, who i believe is of Native American descent.
 
2012-02-11 08:18:25 PM  

bmihura: ronaprhys: Weaver95: i'm honestly expecting this to happen to us here in the US. if the Occupy movement continues to gain momentum this year and starts making progress....yeah, I could see the fedgov and/or a couple corporate types deciding to just cut internet access in certain regions.

I think your tinfoil is starting to show. Pull your skullcap down a bit more.

I agree with Weaver95 half the time, and this is one of them. No tinfoil there.


I agree that the powers that be might resort to such tactics. But Occupy? Doubtful they would go that far with such an ineffective "movement."
 
2012-02-11 08:19:26 PM  

bmihura: ronaprhys: Weaver95: i'm honestly expecting this to happen to us here in the US. if the Occupy movement continues to gain momentum this year and starts making progress....yeah, I could see the fedgov and/or a couple corporate types deciding to just cut internet access in certain regions.

I think your tinfoil is starting to show. Pull your skullcap down a bit more.

I agree with Weaver95 half the time, and this is one of them. No tinfoil there.


Think it through, though. Money doesn't flow in the U.S. anymore without the Internet, and there is no one in America able to shut off the flow of money who wouldn't do better by leaving it on. For that matter, who could survive the attempt?
 
2012-02-11 08:20:06 PM  

MrEricSir: Iran is starting to look a lot like China. Both countries seem to have a large, educate middle class that you'd expect to revolt at any second -- but culturally they're both so severely self-repressed that it probably won't happen.


Well, last time Iran had open revolts, circa summer of 2009 (over a Presidential election that was considered rigged by everybody except the Government), they were brutally crushed resulting in several dozen deaths.

Last time China had open revolts was Tienanmen Square in 1989 (leaving aside the entire issue of the Chinese annexation and conquest of Tibet), resulted in the deaths of hundreds of protesters and a scrubbing of publicly available (within China) historic records that was downright Orwellian.

So, both countries have had revolts, and got stomped down HARD when the governments there both decided they didn't want their own several decade old "revolutions" to end.
 
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