So, either they're expected a revolt, or they're expecting an Israeli attack.

Someone forgot to pay the electric bill again.

So they passed their version of PIPA?

Weaver95: i'm honestly expecting this to happen to us here in the US. if the Occupy movement continues to gain momentum this year and starts making progress....yeah, I could see the fedgov and/or a couple corporate types deciding to just cut internet access in certain regions.

I think your tinfoil is starting to show. Pull your skullcap down a bit more.

Well that seals the Iranian government's fate. Instead of having ordinary folks being placated by the internet, they're now free to wander around outside and get angry at the situation. It's how they did it during the Arab Spring.

I sense a revolt coming.

Weaver95: ZAZ: Weaver95

The BART cell phone blackout was a start.

I know that a LOT of people were interested in how Iran went about shutting down social media sites and tracking down political dissidents via their web activities. I wouldn't be surprised to see if a couple/few people here in the states put their heads together and started figuring out how to isolate US citizens from the web.

great times to live in, ain't it? Granted, the Iranian dissidents have it worse than we do but there's enough oppression here in the US to give us both common ground.

Until the time that the US Gov't starts executing people for political speech I'd have to say there really isn't any common ground.

Iran is starting to look a lot like China. Both countries seem to have a large, educate middle class that you'd expect to revolt at any second -- but culturally they're both so severely self-repressed that it probably won't happen.

That twisting sound is the GOP writhing in envy.

Really subs? -> [Scary] <- Really?

MARG BAR DICTATOR

Robot Eats Towson: Really subs? -> [Scary] <- Really?

There's no reason to do it that doesn't point to the deaths of multiple Iranian civilians in the near future.

Weaver95: ZAZ: Weaver95

The BART cell phone blackout was a start.

I know that a LOT of people were interested in how Iran went about shutting down social media sites and tracking down political dissidents via their web activities. I wouldn't be surprised to see if a couple/few people here in the states put their heads together and started figuring out how to isolate US citizens from the web.

great times to live in, ain't it? Granted, the Iranian dissidents have it worse than we do but there's enough oppression here in the US to give us both common ground.

Learn back...

"We tracked them to this farmhouse! Team Alpha, break down the doors!"

"Roger Command! Go go go!"

BOOOOOM!!!!

"Team Alpha? Team Alpha?..."

This has always worked out so well for other countries.

no more pictures of bacon wrapped bacon fried in bacon grease for the iranians...

scanman61: Until the time that the US Gov't starts executing people for political speech I'd have to say there really isn't any common ground.



Go on...

ronaprhys: Weaver95: i'm honestly expecting this to happen to us here in the US. if the Occupy movement continues to gain momentum this year and starts making progress....yeah, I could see the fedgov and/or a couple corporate types deciding to just cut internet access in certain regions.

I think your tinfoil is starting to show. Pull your skullcap down a bit more.

Unfortunatly I think he maybe right about that. Considering the BART blackout, the distain of public officials and LEOs for public recording, the presedent set by social media in the Arab Spring, and the anything goes nature of national security, we could be a large popular protest away from a media crackdown. I would not put it past the government or industry to censor things and use questionable justifications to do so.

Weaver95: scanman61:
Until the time that the US Gov't starts executing people for political speech I'd have to say there really isn't any common ground.

Protesters have been shot at, brutalized, and given life threatening injuries for nothing more than waving signs at politicans who didn't like what those signs said. Granted it is not currently the policy of the US government to execute political dissidents...but we certainly grant the cops plenty of leeway when it comes to shutting down political speech that might offend the 1%.

Give it time. we'll get there.

I have really been wondering where the tipping point would be. I think we are definitely a lot closer since 2000, but I think we are still a long long way off.

It's more like we're the infamous frog in a pot of water heating up.

A lot of people in other countries around the world have put up with a lot worse.

I would handle this entirely different if I was the leader of the state of Iran.

1) make peace with Israel.
2) develop nukes
3) tell USA to step off.

Can they still get this site ? (new window)

SquiggelyGrounders: ronaprhys: Weaver95: i'm honestly expecting this to happen to us here in the US. if the Occupy movement continues to gain momentum this year and starts making progress....yeah, I could see the fedgov and/or a couple corporate types deciding to just cut internet access in certain regions.

I think your tinfoil is starting to show. Pull your skullcap down a bit more.

Unfortunatly I think he maybe right about that. Considering the BART blackout, the distain of public officials and LEOs for public recording, the presedent set by social media in the Arab Spring, and the anything goes nature of national security, we could be a large popular protest away from a media crackdown. I would not put it past the government or industry to censor things and use questionable justifications to do so.

I don't think they have to do a lot of work in getting the media to censor themselves. Newspapers don't have the money to do real investigative journalism and television and radio are all about entertainment.

scanman61: Weaver95: ZAZ: Weaver95

The BART cell phone blackout was a start.

I know that a LOT of people were interested in how Iran went about shutting down social media sites and tracking down political dissidents via their web activities. I wouldn't be surprised to see if a couple/few people here in the states put their heads together and started figuring out how to isolate US citizens from the web.

great times to live in, ain't it? Granted, the Iranian dissidents have it worse than we do but there's enough oppression here in the US to give us both common ground.

Until the time that the US Gov't starts executing people for political speech I'd have to say there really isn't any common ground.

There is no need to do that when you can just make them disappear...

studebaker hoch: I would handle this entirely different if I was the leader of the state of Iran.

1) make peace with Israel.

Nem Wan: scanman61: Until the time that the US Gov't starts executing people for political speech I'd have to say there really isn't any common ground.

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Go on...

Yeah you get a special place on the list when you are a traitor and an enemy combatant. If you dont like it go live in friggin Iran.

studebaker hoch: I would handle this entirely different if I was the leader of the state of Iran.

1) make peace with Israel.
2) develop nukes
3) tell USA to step off.

1). Religion of peace.
2). Working on it.
3). They probably won't say, "step."

Weaver95: GAT_00: So, either they're expected a revolt, or they're expecting an Israeli attack.

I really hope Israel doesn't get uppity and attack Iran. that would be an exceptionally bad idea.

The "impending Israeli attack" has been going on for about ten years now. Every few months Israel is about to bomb Iran...
Before the elections (ours, theirs, Iran's)
After the elections
During Ramadan
At the end of Ramadan
During the Spring
During the Summer
During the Fall
During the Winter
Before the IAEA inspects
Just after the IAEA issues its report

Somehow they never seem to. But every time it happens it lets people ratchet up the "ZOG! Filthy Jooz! Murderous Zionist animals!" rhetoric another notch. And the fact that Israel continues to not attack Iran never seems to make a difference to the braying chorus of asses.

Besides, as far as it goes Iran is at war with Israel. It has an officially-stated national policy of destroying Israel and killing every Jew in the world. And it's absolutely unapologetic about the fact that Hamas and Hezbollah are its proxies whose sole purpose is to destroy Israel and kill Jews. Not just Zionists. All Jews. If Israel attacks a country with whom it is at war I fail to see why it should be singled out.

Also note that the IAEA finally, with much embarrassment, issued its report on the Syrian site Israel bombed a year or so back. The conclusion? Yep. It was a nuclear installation. And yep, Syria lied about it.

Weaver95: i'm honestly expecting this to happen to us here in the US. if the Occupy movement continues to gain momentum this year and starts making progress....yeah, I could see the fedgov and/or a couple corporate types deciding to just cut internet access in certain regions.

Hmm. Debating if this is a popcorn moment or oh shiat we're one step closer.

/admits that I haven't read/researched this much more than skimming some "news" articles

Dear Iran,

Signed,

The rest of the world

baggins2000: SquiggelyGrounders: ronaprhys: Weaver95: i'm honestly expecting this to happen to us here in the US. if the Occupy movement continues to gain momentum this year and starts making progress....yeah, I could see the fedgov and/or a couple corporate types deciding to just cut internet access in certain regions.

I think your tinfoil is starting to show. Pull your skullcap down a bit more.

Unfortunatly I think he maybe right about that. Considering the BART blackout, the distain of public officials and LEOs for public recording, the presedent set by social media in the Arab Spring, and the anything goes nature of national security, we could be a large popular protest away from a media crackdown. I would not put it past the government or industry to censor things and use questionable justifications to do so.

I don't think they have to do a lot of work in getting the media to censor themselves. Newspapers don't have the money to do real investigative journalism and television and radio are all about entertainment.

Sad but true. We kind of deserve the results of our acceptance of shody journalism, the thing that's supposed to serve as a watchdog for the public. I want to slap all of the talking heads like Anderson Cooper for taking themselves seriously

This happened yesterday.

Way to be on the ball, Fark

KarmicDisaster: anuran:

The "impending Israeli attack" has been going on for about ten years now. Every few months Israel is about to bomb Iran...
Before the elections (ours, theirs, Iran's)
After the elections
During Ramadan
At the end of Ramadan
During the Spring
During the Summer
During the Fall
During the Winter
Before the IAEA inspects
Just after the IAEA issues its report



Not until after the Madonna concert!

GILF

Weaver95: GAT_00: So, either they're expected a revolt, or they're expecting an Israeli attack.

I really hope Israel doesn't get uppity and attack Iran. that would be an exceptionally bad idea.

Why?

Friction8r: Weaver95: GAT_00: So, either they're expected a revolt, or they're expecting an Israeli attack.

I really hope Israel doesn't get uppity and attack Iran. that would be an exceptionally bad idea.

Why?

Really? "Why?" Really?

Troll?

Weaver95: i'm honestly expecting this to happen to us here in the US. if the Occupy movement continues to gain momentum this year and starts making progress....yeah, I could see the fedgov and/or a couple corporate types deciding to just cut internet access in certain regions.



/Lol, not a chance

https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/the-regime-locks-down-the-i nternet.99963/

Send Al Gore over to fix it. He invented the damn thing.

Meh, the internet is just a fad anyway