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(Washington Times)   What's next up for Obama? Get rid of that pesky little second amendment thingie. Of course, did you think otherwise?   (washingtontimes.com) divider line 550
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2012-02-11 11:33:29 AM
I'm strongly pro-gun, a fiscal conservative and social libertarian. And I'll be voting for Obama because neither party can control spending, at least the Dems stay out of consensual sexual partnerships between adults and don't force me to pray to Jeebus, Obama has at least tried to stand up to Israel regarding the occupation, and Obama is plainly not anti-gun. He's also not pro-gun, but he's been content to leave it alone at the federal level. That's enough for me.

I know the rest of my pro-gun brethen get their camo panties in a twist about Operation Fast and Furious as a ruse to grab all our guns, and that Obama has just been playing nice so we can get converted into a socialist-fascist-muslim dictatorship, but all the evidence points to the contrary.

/slashie
 
2012-02-11 11:34:47 AM
Fark It: It's too bad because we could still use the NRA to fight the good fight against Chicago, California, DC, NYC, etc. Instead they seem more interested in hyperbole and igniting culture wars, unlike GOA and the 2AF, two gun-rights organizations that have actually done shiat for gun rights recently. They need to focus on the battles that count, like in Illinois where Rahm Emanuel is going to introduce legislation to the General Assembly that calls for statewide registration and obscene fees for the privilege of buying handguns.

And this.
 
2012-02-11 11:35:39 AM
andrewagill: Also, I'm rather pleasantly surprised that I found this in Dinosaur Comics form:

That was awesome, nice find.
 
2012-02-11 11:36:26 AM
You know who was really anti-gun? I mean not pretend future sekrit anti-gun, but real anti-gun? Reagan.

fark Wayne Lapewpew. I own over a dozen guns and as long as he's there I'll never join the NRA. Assholes like him are why I couldn't find an AR barrel or primers in 2009.
 
2012-02-11 11:37:14 AM
Smoking GNU: Holy mother of Glod. The level of fear you White American ConservaNuts have for the Big Scary Black man in the white house is Hilarious.

The foundation of conservatism is fear; fear of change, fear of the other, fear of loss.

Just look at the old conservative chestnut "a liberal is just a conservative that hasn't been mugged yet," it presupposes that a mugging will occur at some point and that the liberal will change their views if something bad happens to them. It's hardly surprising that conservatives would simultaneously want to own guns to give them a (false) sense of security and fear that the "other" is going to take that away from them.
 
2012-02-11 11:37:30 AM
If I can't go to the store, drive, work, and sleep with my gun then how can I be free? I mean really we have the right to ensure that we are protecting our FREEDOM by bearing these arms, infact to ensure it assists this AND make it easier to PROTECT OUR FREEDOM all weapons must have a hair trigger, be fully automatic, and no safety or gun locks are allowed.

Only a filthy pinko commie liberal would allow anything to come between them and their weapon! Now we know this might endanger some people but honestly if they are afraid of it or anyone speaks up against it they obviously are against FREEDOM and our rights. YOU know how to handle your weapon, not some filthy libural who tells you to lock it up!

Remember, liberals could be anywhere, so remember to take the gun lock off, keep the safety off, and sleep with your gun under your pillow and your hand on the trigger. Be forever vigilant! You're doing your part every night you do this. Also give a gun to your children and have them. An armed family is a safe family.
 
2012-02-11 11:38:55 AM
shower_in_my_socks: ELECTION YEAR! Time to dust-off the old Republican boogiemen.

Planned Parenthood / Abortion attack? CHECK

Contraception war? CHECK

"Dems gonna steal away all our guns"? CHECK


Up next: Gay marriage!

/GOP needs a new script.
//And a clue.
///Currently have neither.
 
2012-02-11 11:39:41 AM
Shaggy_C: Sigh. When are people going to learn that the Democrats of the 2010s are a pro-gun...

Probably when they stop appointing anti-gun judges and AG's and pretending as if their support on an issue begins and ends on verbal declarations.
 
2012-02-11 11:40:58 AM
Contribution Corsair: If I can't go to the store, drive, work, and sleep with my gun then how can I be free? I mean really we have the right to ensure that we are protecting our FREEDOM by bearing these arms, infact to ensure it assists this AND make it easier to PROTECT OUR FREEDOM all weapons must have a hair trigger, be fully automatic, and no safety or gun locks are allowed.

Only a filthy pinko commie liberal would allow anything to come between them and their weapon! Now we know this might endanger some people but honestly if they are afraid of it or anyone speaks up against it they obviously are against FREEDOM and our rights. YOU know how to handle your weapon, not some filthy libural who tells you to lock it up!

Remember, liberals could be anywhere, so remember to take the gun lock off, keep the safety off, and sleep with your gun under your pillow and your hand on the trigger. Be forever vigilant! You're doing your part every night you do this. Also give a gun to your children and have them. An armed family is a safe family.


As I read that, I kept hearing ricochets and broken glass and cat yowls, interspersed with "Oops!" and "Sorry!" and "Didn't like that vase anyway!"
 
2012-02-11 11:45:01 AM
Kibbler: I heard that Obama is working with the UN to build concentration camps for white men.

/True story


That's ridiculous..... It's only white Christians (and Jews, because he hates Israel that much). Atheists can still remain free.... For now.
 
2012-02-11 11:45:35 AM
Gun sales must be dropping.
 
2012-02-11 11:45:49 AM
Mrbogey: Shaggy_C: Sigh. When are people going to learn that the Democrats of the 2010s are a pro-gun...

Probably when they stop appointing anti-gun judges and AG's and pretending as if their support on an issue begins and ends on verbal declarations.


Are you saying your gun rights are being infringed upon? Because if you are, surely you have evidence for this. Otherwise, this is just more "NO, REALLY, THE LIBS WANT TO TAKE YOUR RIGHTS AWAY!!!"
 
2012-02-11 11:45:53 AM
So now I have to choose between a Democrat that will destroy the Second Amendment and a Republican who will start WWIII just to please a bunch of warmongering paranoid Zionists?


i3.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-02-11 11:46:48 AM
bujin: Kibbler: I heard that Obama is working with the UN to build concentration camps for white men.

/True story

That's ridiculous..... It's only white Christians (and Jews, because he hates Israel that much). Atheists can still remain free.... For now.


*scribbling furiously in notebook*
*snapping notebook shut*
*pointing at eyes*
*pointing at you*
 
2012-02-11 11:48:19 AM
clancifer: Do not stress, Gun Nut Republicans. Even if Obama were to try this, he would cave and rescind in a matter of days anyhow.

Four letters: N D A A
 
2012-02-11 11:48:51 AM
This is just like with Obama's never ending quest to raise taxes. Sure, he hasn't done it... but you just KNOW he's thinking about it!

Guns are a dead issue. Relax.
 
2012-02-11 11:49:34 AM
Amos Quito: clancifer: Do not stress, Gun Nut Republicans. Even if Obama were to try this, he would cave and rescind in a matter of days anyhow.

Four letters: N D A A


What does that have to do with absolutely anything?
 
2012-02-11 11:49:57 AM
Well seems like to me he realy does not want votes from wv does he??? There is not a peson in wv who does not go hunting in the their spare time or have has at least one gun in their house!!!! What the hell is he thinking??????????????
 
2012-02-11 11:51:04 AM
Amos Quito: So now I have to choose between a Democrat that will destroy the Second Amendment and a Republican who will start WWIII just to please a bunch of warmongering paranoid Zionists?


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I've seen no proof that Obama intends to do anything of the sort. I've heard plenty of indications that Republican candidates would like to do just what you said.
 
2012-02-11 11:51:17 AM
LasersHurt: Are you saying your gun rights are being infringed upon? Because if you are, surely you have evidence for this. Otherwise, this is just more "NO, REALLY, THE LIBS WANT TO TAKE YOUR RIGHTS AWAY!!!"

"Bush didn't ban abortions... he must not have been against abortion...derp dee doo!"

Obama is not neutral towards gun rights. Given every chance he's appointed someone who doesn't support gun rights at major positions. And despite protests, he had in the 90s stated he was against personal gun ownership. Unlike gravity, no amount of anger or outrage at those "evil white Christian Republicans" can warp space and time to make reality fit your views.

Obama does not support the second amendment as an individual right to a weapon.

You should be outraged that in an attempt to raise negative publicity for guns your AG got innocent people killed and has faced no repercussions.
 
2012-02-11 11:52:17 AM
LasersHurt: Amos Quito: clancifer: Do not stress, Gun Nut Republicans. Even if Obama were to try this, he would cave and rescind in a matter of days anyhow.

Four letters: N D A A

What does that have to do with absolutely anything?


Obama signed funding for the US military which means that he's coming for your guns and your white wimmins.
 
2012-02-11 11:52:51 AM
With all of the wingnut republitards roaming this country, any good dumbocrat is going to get himself a gun so he can gun down the wingnuts before they gun him down.

Sanity is a rate commodity and intelligence has left the building.
 
2012-02-11 11:53:31 AM
Magorn: Holy hopping hell! I read the First sentence of TFA :
A top official with the National Rifle Association said Friday that President Obama will move to "destroy" gun rights and "erase" the Second Amendment if he is re-elected in November.


and I came to post a snarky comment along the lines of "Yes Wayne, the fact that Obama has done absolutely nothing to restrict gun rights in his first term is all part of his master plan to lull you into a false sense of security"

Then I read the next sentence and realized that was his ACTUAL ARGUMENT:

While delivering one of the liveliest and best-received speeches at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre said the president's low-key approach to gun rights during his first term was "a "conspiracy to ensure re-election by lulling gun owners to sleep."

"All that first term, lip service to gun owners is just part of a massive Obama conspiracy to deceive voters and hide his true intentions to destroy the Second Amendment during his second term," he said


Mother of god, We've just passed the Derp Event Horizon. Now they are not only criticizing everything Obama does, but they are attacking him for what he DOESN'T DO, but in their minds secretly WANTS to do


It's politics by paranoid delusion


It's desperation, is what it is. Their wedge issue, the NRA's entire reason for being, is rapidly disappearing and they're trying to cling to it so they'll keep bringing in those donations.
 
2012-02-11 11:54:22 AM
Amos Quito: Zionists?

Nobody who uses this world unironically has any credibility. It's right up there next to "Sheeple".

/unless you were being ironic
//in which case, +1 and carry on
 
2012-02-11 11:54:59 AM
Mrbogey: LasersHurt: Are you saying your gun rights are being infringed upon? Because if you are, surely you have evidence for this. Otherwise, this is just more "NO, REALLY, THE LIBS WANT TO TAKE YOUR RIGHTS AWAY!!!"

"Bush didn't ban abortions... he must not have been against abortion...derp dee doo!"

Obama is not neutral towards gun rights. Given every chance he's appointed someone who doesn't support gun rights at major positions. And despite protests, he had in the 90s stated he was against personal gun ownership. Unlike gravity, no amount of anger or outrage at those "evil white Christian Republicans" can warp space and time to make reality fit your views.

Obama does not support the second amendment as an individual right to a weapon.

You should be outraged that in an attempt to raise negative publicity for guns your AG got innocent people killed and has faced no repercussions.


I like how there's absolutely no evidence for this, you're just SURE he wants to ban guns. Good show.

P.S. Evidence means actual, real, provable stuff. Like recent attempts at banning guns, or suggesting the banning of guns in the last decade or so. You know, reality.
P.P.S. You might want to tone down the "evil white christian republicans" thing. It looks kind of defensive.
 
2012-02-11 11:55:06 AM
Mrbogey: Shaggy_C: Sigh. When are people going to learn that the Democrats of the 2010s are a pro-gun...

Probably when they stop appointing anti-gun judges and AG's and pretending as if their support on an issue begins and ends on verbal declarations.


most Attorneys General are elected.

See, this is one of the many problems with the Tea Party and Conservative movements in general -- they seem to have a very limited knowledge of civics and government. Their participation seems to come largely from adhering to the authority of very specific individuals and organizations.
 
2012-02-11 11:55:07 AM
Monkeyhouse Zendo: Smoking GNU: Holy mother of Glod. The level of fear you White American ConservaNuts have for the Big Scary Black man in the white house is Hilarious.

The foundation of conservatism is fear; fear of change, fear of the other, fear of loss.

Just look at the old conservative chestnut "a liberal is just a conservative that hasn't been mugged yet," it presupposes that a mugging will occur at some point and that the liberal will change their views if something bad happens to them. It's hardly surprising that conservatives would simultaneously want to own guns to give them a (false) sense of security and fear that the "other" is going to take that away from them.


My 8th grade history teacher had a variation on that -- "a liberal is just a conservative that hasn't been mugged yet, and a conservative is just a liberal that hasn't been fired yet."

/CSB
 
2012-02-11 11:57:14 AM
LasersHurt: Amos Quito: clancifer: Do not stress, Gun Nut Republicans. Even if Obama were to try this, he would cave and rescind in a matter of days anyhow.

Four letters: N D A A

What does that have to do with absolutely anything?



If he (and Congress) are willing to give us a law that guts Amendments 3, 4, 5, (etc) - what makes you think they give a damn about the other Amendments?
 
2012-02-11 11:57:16 AM
Funny how libs continue to trust Obama. We know less about him than any other Presidential candidate in history. Simple things like his birth, faith, school records are all obfuscated at best or just out right lies. But fine, if you believe he won't come after gun owners, you go right ahead. In the mean time I will be adding to my collection and keeping my kids trained.
 
2012-02-11 11:58:24 AM
Amos Quito: LasersHurt: Amos Quito: clancifer: Do not stress, Gun Nut Republicans. Even if Obama were to try this, he would cave and rescind in a matter of days anyhow.

Four letters: N D A A

What does that have to do with absolutely anything?


If he (and Congress) are willing to give us a law that guts Amendments 3, 4, 5, (etc) - what makes you think they give a damn about the other Amendments?


Why yes, that slope IS mighty slippery.
 
2012-02-11 11:58:55 AM
i don't think you guys understand. Gun rights have expanded because of Obama's complete ineptitude and strong conservative leaders like Rick Scott/Scott Walker. That does NOT mean Obama has not already begun to implement his treasonous plot to seize all firearms from law-abiding citizens.
 
2012-02-11 11:58:58 AM
Amos Quito: If he (and Congress) are willing to give us a law that guts Amendments 3, 4, 5, (etc) - what makes you think they give a damn about the other Amendments?

I'm pretty sure the 13th is safe.
 
2012-02-11 11:59:11 AM
do you really think you could "outlaw" guns in the USA when every nutjob has ten of 'em?

it's a little late for that.
 
2012-02-11 11:59:14 AM
RandomExcess: Funny how libs continue to trust Obama. We know less about him than any other Presidential candidate in history. Simple things like his birth, faith, school records are all obfuscated at best or just out right lies. But fine, if you believe he won't come after gun owners, you go right ahead. In the mean time I will be adding to my collection and keeping my kids trained.

my god you're just awful
 
2012-02-11 11:59:17 AM
The NRA has been saying this for years. Obama is a secret muslim socialist kenyan anti-christ gun taker, while he has actually signed at least three pieces of legislation that have made guns more available than they were in the Bush administration.

Ya, go with that one, that's the one that will work.


/ODS
 
2012-02-11 12:00:09 PM
Cromulent User Name: i don't think you guys understand. Gun rights have expanded because of Obama's complete ineptitude and strong conservative leaders like Rick Scott/Scott Walker. That does NOT mean Obama has not already begun to implement his treasonous plot to seize all firearms from law-abiding citizens.

treasonous? Bit over the top, don't ya think?
 
2012-02-11 12:00:54 PM
The irony of course is that the spirit of the 2nd Amendment was that the People could defend themselves against their own government if they got out of hand. Yet the people who cry loudest about the 2nd Amendment are the ones who were most willing to go along with whatever the Patriot Act and everything else the post 9/11 government had to say.
 
2012-02-11 12:01:04 PM
RandomExcess: Funny how libs continue to trust Obama. We know less about him than any other Presidential candidate in history. Simple things like his birth, faith, school records are all obfuscated at best or just out right lies. But fine, if you believe he won't come after gun owners, you go right ahead. In the mean time I will be adding to my collection and keeping my kids trained.

It isn't that we trust him, we know that as the Antichrist he will betray us as well but, being liberals, we can't help but worship and assist him in his hellish crusade.
 
2012-02-11 12:01:46 PM
TsukasaK: Amos Quito: Zionists?

Nobody who uses this world unironically has any credibility.



That's what Zionists like to say.

;-)
 
2012-02-11 12:02:00 PM
HeartBurnKid: Their wedge issue, the NRA's entire reason for being, is rapidly disappearing

I would't be so sure about that. The NRA is quite possibly one of the only organizations I can give a pass to when they begin to herp the derp. Reason being, gun rights are one of those "if you give an inch, they'll take a mile" type things. Once something is gone, it's gone for good. And if there's something that derp is good for, it's rapidly mobilizing lots of weak-minded people. What's the term.. useful idiots?

Just because Heller vs DC was decided sanely doesn't mean that any threat by state or local governments is automatically invalid. Is DC even in compliance with that ruling yet?

On the other hand, this is farking stupid. Obama isn't coming for your guns.

And speaking of farking stupid:

Mrbogey: Obama is not neutral towards gun rights. Given every chance he's appointed someone who doesn't support gun rights at major positions. And despite protests, he had in the 90s stated he was against personal gun ownership. Unlike gravity, no amount of anger or outrage at those "evil white Christian Republicans" can warp space and time to make reality fit your views.

Nobody cares. The case law has been decided, personal gun ownership has been affirmed. He, his appointees, and every member of the executive branch can be as "against" gun rights as the most radical-left hippie out there, but it matters not. What's done is done. Kind of like how if RON PAUL was elected, he could want the gold standard with every fiber of his being, that doesn't mean it's going to pass congress.
 
2012-02-11 12:02:15 PM
RandomExcess: Funny how libs continue to trust Obama. We know less about him than any other Presidential candidate in history. Simple things like his birth, faith, school records are all obfuscated at best or just out right lies. But fine, if you believe he won't come after gun owners, you go right ahead. In the mean time I will be adding to my collection and keeping my kids trained.

Exactly; he's a complete mystery man, and this is one of the few things we do know:

i18.photobucket.com
 
2012-02-11 12:02:47 PM
shower_in_my_socks: ELECTION YEAR! Time to dust-off the old Republican boogiemen.

Planned Parenthood / Abortion attack? CHECK

Contraception war? CHECK

"Dems gonna steal away all our guns"? CHECK

With Obama shoving the "Dems are soft on national defense" meme down Republicans' throats, and the economy recovering, expect more of the old social issue bullshiat to crawl into the debate to motivate the scared simpletons into voting for people who have no issue with the income gap, want to strip away people's healthcare, want to legislate their personal lives, install theocratic institutions, start unnecessary wars, and on and on.


You forgot his war on religion. It was even the main theme at CPAC. Son, I am disappoint.
 
2012-02-11 12:03:05 PM
RandomExcess: Funny how libs continue to trust Obama. We know less about him than any other Presidential candidate in history. Simple things like his birth, faith, school records are all obfuscated at best or just out right lies. But fine, if you believe he won't come after gun owners, you go right ahead. In the mean time I will be adding to my collection and keeping my kids trained.

Name one other President who wrote/published two biographical books before even running to become President. Tell me about the school records, birth and faith of your favourite candidate.
 
2012-02-11 12:03:20 PM
I get all my news from cult newsletters. It makes life more interesting.
 
2012-02-11 12:04:06 PM
acs17: Well seems like to me he realy does not want votes from wv does he??? There is not a peson in wv who does not go hunting in the their spare time or have has at least one gun in their house!!!! What the hell is he thinking??????????????

I the modern era, Democrats don't usually win WV in Presidential elections. So to answer your question, no, he doesn't really want votes from WV.
 
2012-02-11 12:04:23 PM
 
2012-02-11 12:04:27 PM
Cromulent User Name: and strong conservative leaders like Rick Scott/Scott Walker

Are you referring to Rick Scott as in the governor of Florida? He's pretty much regarded as the worst human ever to hold elected office. And you're calling him a leader?
 
2012-02-11 12:04:37 PM
This is why I'm not an NRA member. I own dozens of guns, I love shooting, and I'm a believer in the Second Amendment, but I cannot support these shiat heads.
 
2012-02-11 12:05:20 PM
MisterLoki: I get all my news from cult newsletters. It makes life more interesting.

I do miss the Weekly World News. I wonder how Bat Boy and Elvis are doing.
 
2012-02-11 12:05:27 PM
LasersHurt: I like how there's absolutely no evidence for this, you're just SURE he wants to ban guns. Good show.

P.S. Evidence means actual, real, provable stuff. Like recent attempts at banning guns, or suggesting the banning of guns in the last decade or so. You know, reality.
P.P.S. You might want to tone down the "evil white christian republicans" thing. It looks kind of defensive.


So you're saying that his AG didn't run a gov't operation that funneled guns into Mexico resulting in people dying all so he could hold a press conference where he talks about how we need more stringent gun laws?

What did Obama do to him for that? Nothing says a lot sometimes.

And who did he appoint to the USSC? Well judges who have stated their opposition to the popular interpretation of the second amendment.

At best, Obama is semi-neutral towards guns. Maybe it just doesn't matter to him. But if it didn't matter to him then certainly his choices would have somewhat of a 50-50 split in their view of the 2nd Amendment. And yet it doesn't.

Obama clearly knows as long as he doesn't say what he really thinks, everyone will ignore his actions.

CapnBlues: most Attorneys General are elected.

See, this is one of the many problems with the Tea Party and Conservative movements in general -- they seem to have a very limited knowledge of civics and government. Their participation seems to come largely from adhering to the authority of very specific individuals and organizations.


Wait, you just lectured me on not knowing civics when you just asserted the USAG is an elected position. Hoooooooooooow does your brain work?
 
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